Natalee Case Discussion #765 7/15 - 7/22

[KarmaRoundUp]

This was sent to me by SAN this morning and may be totally a coincidence:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/07/18/2008-07-18_cops_say_lawyers_ran_midtown_brothel.html

Cops say lawyers ran midtown brothel
BY BARBARA ROSS, KRISTEN V. BROWN AND ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Saturday, July 19th 2008, 1:46 AM


Louis Posner


Teams of vice cops swooped down and busted a posh midtown strip club that catered to stockbrokers and bankers - and featured porn stars who charged $5,000 for private trysts.

Prominent tax lawyer Louis Posner; his wife, Betty; and 19 others were arrested on a variety of prostitution and money-laundering charges at The Hot Lap Dance Club, which the couple ran out of a velvet-heavy loft, police said.

(snipped)

Could this be the same aruba posner?This one is 53 years old and has a 20 year old son named Daniel.Maybe a brother/cousin to aruba's posner.

[mrskub]

This was sent to me by SAN this morning and may be totally a coincidence:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/07/18/2008-07-18_cops_say_lawyers_ran_midtown_brothel.html

Cops say lawyers ran midtown brothel
BY BARBARA ROSS, KRISTEN V. BROWN AND ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Saturday, July 19th 2008, 1:46 AM


Louis Posner


Teams of vice cops swooped down and busted a posh midtown strip club that catered to stockbrokers and bankers - and featured porn stars who charged $5,000 for private trysts.

Prominent tax lawyer Louis Posner; his wife, Betty; and 19 others were arrested on a variety of prostitution and money-laundering charges at The Hot Lap Dance Club, which the couple ran out of a velvet-heavy loft, police said.

(snipped)

Could this be the same aruba posner?This one is 53 years old and has a 20 year old son named Daniel.Maybe a brother/cousin to aruba's posner.

Don't know if this is the same Louis or not.

http://gocaribbean.about.com/od/topfiveattractions/gr/ArubaAloeStore.htm
Aruba Aloe Factory and Museum Tour

The humble aloe plant has an ambitious mission, as stated by Louis A. Posner, president of Aruba Aloe: “To make Aruba Aloe for Aruba, what Heineken is for The Netherlands and Coca Cola is for the United States of America.”

[klaasend]

I think it's a different Louis Posner: 

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter61.html#story8



ARUBA ALOE FACTORY OPEN



The Posner family inaugurated its new Aruba Aloe Factory Friday night in the presence of the island’s entire business community. The patriarch’s contributions to the family fortunes were substantial. Oiky established a famed wine and spirits distributorship, Licores Aruba, which you probably know from your trips up and down the boulevard. In the old days Licores was the source of all big name-brands from fine rum, Bacardi to great beer, Amstel. In fat and lean years, the Posners delivered liquor to the hotels, carried them on credit through the off-season and forged excellent relationships with their clients/partners. Under the leadership of US educated son, Louis, the family diversified and added fast food to the mix, importing Wendy’s Hamburgers to the island and just a few years back taking over a failing Domino’s Pizza, revamping its image and truly upgrading everything from toppings to delivery.



While one son went on to become our Minister of Health, Dr. Israel Posner, Louis, continued to scout new investment opportunities. Then a big purchase came along, Aruba Aloe was for grabs. Previously owned by the Eman family, the Emans were, and still are, politicians. They paid little attention to their promising business. The Posners made a bid, and won, taking the place over lock, stock and Koos Veil, the mad scientist in charge of cream/sunscreen/shampoo production. The new facility mid-plantation at the exact site of the historical Aloe fields is beautiful, carefully designed to become a popular tourist attraction. Besides, the products bearing the island’s name will surely add to its promotion, via sales in the US. Guests of honor at Friday’s grand opening party, our retired Prime Minister and original Aruba Aloe owner, Henny Eman; also his younger brother Mike Eman, a member of parliament on the opposition benches. Invited guests toured the museum and inspected the production floor from the wraparound, second floor viewing catwalk with windows.


http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter50.html

From 2001:

CHAMPIONS IS ONE YEAR OLD




Burning the candle on both ends, locals & tourists partied the night away for Champion’s first anniversary. The celebration, nicely orchestrated by Kay Maduro featured Celebrity Bartenders and great Latin dance music.

Some of the best dancers on the floor were liquor tycoon Oiky Posner and his two fun loving sons, Aruba’s Minister of Public Health Dr. Israel Posner and the developer of Aruba Aloe, the light on his feet Luis Posner. Ligenne, the Marriott Marketing kid was the ballroom belle, sharing the spotlight with the Marriott accounting chicken heads. Showing off some fancy foot work, finance man Edsel Lopez, the Saladins from Frasa, the Theysens from Kenro Jewelers, plastic surgeon Dr. Hunt Riley with TV producer Tabita Fecunda, cradled in his arms.

[mrskub]

Klaas, you're just too good. 

[klaasend]

Klaas, you're just too good. 

Although I will say there is a resemblance between Israel Posner (Aruba) and Louis Posner (NY) 


Louis Posner (NY)

[Puzzler]

The Haunting Evidence sketch reminds me of Jaime C or Guido.  To be honest, I don't put much stock in the sketch, I think it was more for show than anything.

I don't put much stock in the sketch, either; however, it also looks a little like Freddy to me.

[bleachedblack]

These to Louis's look different to me.

[bleachedblack]

These to Louis's look different to me.

Sorry mean these two Isreal's.......

[2NJSons_Mom]

I think this is info on the newly busted NY Posner....Who's Who & member of Mensa....just brilliant.

http://www.lawfind.com/posner.htm

Klaas, he does resemble Israel P....

[2NJSons_Mom]

These to Louis's look different to me.

Sorry mean these two Isreal's.......

I thought top pic is Louis, bottom Israel....

[bleachedblack]

Hmmmm I must just be confused. You could be right 2NJ  So in the following pic you have Louis (left) Oiky (center) and Israel (right)? Looks like Louis is wearing a beeper-maybe it is a cellphone.

[San]

This was another article in today's NY Post.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07192008/news/regionalnews/lap_dance_bordello_120559.htm

[bleachedblack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2igVbPS9ac0

[Poochy]

This was sent to me by SAN this morning and may be totally a coincidence:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/07/18/2008-07-18_cops_say_lawyers_ran_midtown_brothel.html

Cops say lawyers ran midtown brothel
BY BARBARA ROSS, KRISTEN V. BROWN AND ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Saturday, July 19th 2008, 1:46 AM


Louis Posner


Teams of vice cops swooped down and busted a posh midtown strip club that catered to stockbrokers and bankers - and featured porn stars who charged $5,000 for private trysts.

Prominent tax lawyer Louis Posner; his wife, Betty; and 19 others were arrested on a variety of prostitution and money-laundering charges at The Hot Lap Dance Club, which the couple ran out of a velvet-heavy loft, police said.

(snipped)

WOWZER!

<more snippet>

WAS LOUIS RUNNING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN ARUBA? WHEN I READ THIS SNIPPET IT EERIELY REMINDED ME OF WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO NATALEE...


To get in, patrons had to be recommended by another member, or pass muster with the club's Internet screeners, cops said. There was a $50 cover charge plus a $20 membership fee. (Joran always got vip passes into any establishment)

Patrons then had to get past club security, "two monsters at the door downstairs," said a source familiar with the sizzling jiggle joint. (J2K said they handed her over to two security guards - was the choose-a-name bouncer also moonlighting as a club security guard?)

Besides half a dozen private bedrooms, the plush 7,000-foot loft had small cubicles patrons could rent for $300 for 15 minutes of fun - up from just $160 when the prostitution probe began a year ago, cops said. (loft = watchtower...?)

For $500 to $5,000 more, the high-rollers could retire to private bedrooms for more personalized attention, or arrange for sex "off-premises." (Was this the 'simple party at his house with the host? Was the "house" some penthouse rooms inside the HI?)

Patrons who ran low on cash could hit the loft's ATM for up to $900 per visit. (Didn't Paulus hit an ATM that night?...Deepak to Joran "...your own father")

A 13-page criminal complaint said undercover cops posing as men interested in throwing a bachelor party were told they could have a private room - with a bed - for $250 an hour, plus whatever they spent on the women. (Who was the guy on the Jewelry store video tape with Natalee? )

"The house dealer of cocaine" came by the club every night and one manager boasted to undercover cops, "Lou has a source in the NYPD payroll so he can know who's a cop," the complaint said.

Dancers called Posner "Daddy" and one employee told an undercover cop the women had to have sex with Posner if they wanted a job, court records said.

Cops said Posner laundered the sex profits through Voter March, a nonprofit voter registration organization he founded.

GOT MANY CHILLS READING THIS...THANKS FOR POSTING KLASS

[KarmaRoundUp]

I think it's a different Louis Posner: 

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter61.html#story8



ARUBA ALOE FACTORY OPEN



The Posner family inaugurated its new Aruba Aloe Factory Friday night in the presence of the island’s entire business community. The patriarch’s contributions to the family fortunes were substantial. Oiky established a famed wine and spirits distributorship, Licores Aruba, which you probably know from your trips up and down the boulevard. In the old days Licores was the source of all big name-brands from fine rum, Bacardi to great beer, Amstel. In fat and lean years, the Posners delivered liquor to the hotels, carried them on credit through the off-season and forged excellent relationships with their clients/partners. Under the leadership of US educated son, Louis, the family diversified and added fast food to the mix, importing Wendy’s Hamburgers to the island and just a few years back taking over a failing Domino’s Pizza, revamping its image and truly upgrading everything from toppings to delivery.



While one son went on to become our Minister of Health, Dr. Israel Posner, Louis, continued to scout new investment opportunities. Then a big purchase came along, Aruba Aloe was for grabs. Previously owned by the Eman family, the Emans were, and still are, politicians. They paid little attention to their promising business. The Posners made a bid, and won, taking the place over lock, stock and Koos Veil, the mad scientist in charge of cream/sunscreen/shampoo production. The new facility mid-plantation at the exact site of the historical Aloe fields is beautiful, carefully designed to become a popular tourist attraction. Besides, the products bearing the island’s name will surely add to its promotion, via sales in the US. Guests of honor at Friday’s grand opening party, our retired Prime Minister and original Aruba Aloe owner, Henny Eman; also his younger brother Mike Eman, a member of parliament on the opposition benches. Invited guests toured the museum and inspected the production floor from the wraparound, second floor viewing catwalk with windows.


http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter50.html

From 2001:

CHAMPIONS IS ONE YEAR OLD




Burning the candle on both ends, locals & tourists partied the night away for Champion’s first anniversary. The celebration, nicely orchestrated by Kay Maduro featured Celebrity Bartenders and great Latin dance music.

Some of the best dancers on the floor were liquor tycoon Oiky Posner and his two fun loving sons, Aruba’s Minister of Public Health Dr. Israel Posner and the developer of Aruba Aloe, the light on his feet Luis Posner. Ligenne, the Marriott Marketing kid was the ballroom belle, sharing the spotlight with the Marriott accounting chicken heads. Showing off some fancy foot work, finance man Edsel Lopez, the Saladins from Frasa, the Theysens from Kenro Jewelers, plastic surgeon Dr. Hunt Riley with TV producer Tabita Fecunda, cradled in his arms.

Thanks Klaas
In the pic above with the father and 2 sons....which one in that pic is DR Israel?The pic of the DR by himself looks nothing like the other pics?

[klaasend]

Israel on the right and Louis on the left:

[2NJSons_Mom]

I think this is info on the newly busted NY Posner....Who's Who & member of Mensa....just brilliant.

http://www.lawfind.com/posner.htm

Klaas, he does resemble Israel P....

When I just did a search for images of this guy, this picture came up relating to the link I posted above...creepy....

[klaasend]

I think this is info on the newly busted NY Posner....Who's Who & member of Mensa....just brilliant.

http://www.lawfind.com/posner.htm

Klaas, he does resemble Israel P....

When I just did a search for images of this guy, this picture came up relating to the link I posted above...creepy....

He hasn't aged well and has gotten creepier, IMO

[klaasend]

Pretty sure it's him in the middle here as well.  Sure would love to link him to the Aruba Posners:


http://www.votermarch.org/pastevents.htm

[Destiny]

Hmmmm I must just be confused. You could be right 2NJ  So in the following pic you have Louis (left) Oiky (center) and Israel (right)? Looks like Louis is wearing a beeper-maybe it is a cellphone.

Well...to me...in this photo...the dude in the middle is the one that looks most like the NY POSNER from the bust...same style eyeglasses...whittle a few pounds off him...grow his hair out some....

Destiny....Klass Thanks for all you do...CBB...the photo of the baby pumkin finding his Mama/Anita...had me ROTF...