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« Reply #960 on: July 22, 2008, 07:19:14 PM »

In the back of my mind, I think that JVDS may 'toy' with anyone that gets close to him.  Perhaps he anticipates that people will be recording anything he says and plans accordingly.

He may like all the media attention his confessions get.  How many before he is no longer in the news?

Will he set a world record for the most public confessions?  Private confessions? 

Will he become a cult figure?  How much are all these confessions worth?

What will Joran do when his utterances are no longer news?

In my opinion Joran is a very sick person.  Possibly a psychopath and definitely narcissitic.  I think he enjoys the attention he gets.  Also, think he is loving that he gets this attention while thinking to himself that he will never be caught.  He doesn't care for his family, Aruba and definitely not Natalee's family.  It's all about Joran and his girls, drugs and partying! 

I think that's part of the definition of narcissistic sociopath. 

I think so too.I depend on my oldest daughter (the psychology/counseling graduate) to give me those definitions!
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« Reply #961 on: July 22, 2008, 07:25:15 PM »

Was reading some posts from Feb.  I remember posting this after Joran's confession.  Still don't understand the answer.

On P&W call, Joran gave from grandma's house, regarding the upcoming tape, Joran says:

"I have only told my friend
what he wanted to hear," said Joran. Joran said that he is not mad at his
friend. "I was tricked and I have made a false confession," said Joran.




How does someone "tell someone what they wanted to hear" but yet state they were "tricked"??  If someone controls the telling of the story, why would they feel they were tricked??  hmmmmmm
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« Reply #962 on: July 22, 2008, 07:28:51 PM »

Because Buckeye, Joran thought he was in control.  He (imo) wanted drugs and wanted to impress his friend so he told him all those things, but he was tricked when it was filmed without his knowledge.
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« Reply #963 on: July 22, 2008, 07:29:39 PM »

Well, guess I was told in a nice way that my opinion doesn't count!  Thanks very much!

No, I think you are right about Joran.

I think he's most def a psychopath.

Killing is not a requirement to be one.

(even though a reasonable person would assume he did it! because you
just don't throw away a human in distress and start saying WHAT DO I DO?
I CANNOT CALL THE POLICE.)

psychopath


Main Entry:
psy·cho·path
Pronunciation:
\ˈsī-kə-ˌpath\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
International Scientific Vocabulary
Date:
1885
: a mentally ill or unstable person; especially : a person affected with antisocial personality disorder


That is Joran to a T.


What he has put Natalee's family through for the last
1,149 days, knowing he knows the full story but just
doesn't feel like spitting it out...

I am pretty sure that, along with everything else that has been uncovered about
him qualifies him for psychopathic status, hands down.


Say what, say what? 

> He's an effin' nut.

He be cuckoo in his coconut!

 
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« Reply #964 on: July 22, 2008, 07:30:05 PM »

Oh man, another typo - doncha just hate it when that happens.
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« Reply #965 on: July 22, 2008, 07:32:21 PM »

Oh man, another typo - doncha just hate it when that happens.

Fixed it.
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« Reply #966 on: July 22, 2008, 07:32:48 PM »



I think Paul vd Sloot is sicker ,Joran is not smart enough for a perfect crime .

I agree johan.  Joran does everything loud and has to be the center of attention.  Paulus does everything sneaky.
sneaky yes he is always looking to the ground >> on every picture  > he hide something 
I agree, he's sneaky and he's hiding everything.  His pal Jan van der Straaten kept him one step ahead of the family always.  Just the profuse sweating....very telling!  He was worried he would be found out!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #967 on: July 22, 2008, 07:33:48 PM »

But then why, Carpe, did he pose nude in that picture.  You know I think about how they torture people during the war and one of the first things it seems they do to them is take off their clothes to humilate them.  To me, Joran did that to himself and I dont understand.
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« Reply #968 on: July 22, 2008, 07:37:09 PM »

But then why, Carpe, did he pose nude in that picture.  You know I think about how they torture people during the war and one of the first things it seems they do to them is take off their clothes to humilate them.  To me, Joran did that to himself and I dont understand.

Joran thinks he is funny.  He is an attention grabber and what way to get more attention than to take the nude picture of himself.  He knew that picture would go around.  It was done on purpose.  He wants the world to think he is nuts.
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« Reply #969 on: July 22, 2008, 07:40:18 PM »

Posted by angelalala at BFN regarding the Bondia article: Thanks

    
Re: New Confession of Joran in Thailand?
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Just a recap of everything that Joran did in Thailand, appearing naked on the beach, drinking with tourists, having his kind of fun in that country. Nothing new really in the article, just the thought that Joran may have given new confessions that the paper doesn't specify to whom, only that the international press may in the near future obtain the recordings of those alleged confessions (whatever they are, if they exist at all) and that they will publish them. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for those "confessions".
 
Take care
 
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Joran is going to Crash & Burn all by his own doing.
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« Reply #970 on: July 22, 2008, 07:43:02 PM »

Dunno... maybe seeing how the whole world sees him
for the piece of sh he really is...

Maybe people are setting him up for those kind
of humiliating media pics?


Joran is such an idiot, setting him up for a fall takes very little effort.

The dude has MAJOR weaknesses. He is a psychopathic drug
addict. They have more holes in them than a slice of swiss cheese.

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« Reply #971 on: July 22, 2008, 07:47:31 PM »

Blonde, Nut & 2NJ who is going to lock?
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« Reply #972 on: July 22, 2008, 07:51:35 PM »

Or would you like me to lock 
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« Reply #973 on: July 22, 2008, 07:55:30 PM »



Ain't she the purdiest li'l thing?

Every time I look into her face, I see

butterflies, purple hearts, and pink bunnies

and chit flying around my head.

 


Can't get her out of my heart.

Don't want to neither!!!!




YOU DONE GOOD, BETH AND DAVE!



She was one in a million.


Natalee was a keeper.






 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #974 on: July 22, 2008, 08:01:37 PM »

"Joran is believed to be friends with a known ecstasy dealer in Aruba and police think that's where he got the drug," said the source.

who is that ?

Don't know...shall we guess?

Lorenzo
Freddy
Steve Croes
Jaime C
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I say Lorenzo is the one.
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« Reply #975 on: July 22, 2008, 08:02:58 PM »

Destiny told us 2-3 days ago that Joran was about to "really do something stupid" and do himself in. Could it be this "new" confession supposedly on tape again??????? 
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« Reply #976 on: July 22, 2008, 08:04:16 PM »

On second thought........ maybe it wasn't that "prophetic" ..... it's like predicting the sun will come up tomorrow!!! 
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« Reply #977 on: July 22, 2008, 08:04:21 PM »

"Joran is believed to be friends with a known ecstasy dealer in Aruba and police think that's where he got the drug," said the source.

who is that ?

Don't know...shall we guess?

Lorenzo
Freddy
Steve Croes
Jaime C
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I say Lorenzo is the one.

He's always been at the top of my list 
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« Reply #978 on: July 22, 2008, 08:04:48 PM »

On second thought........ maybe it wasn't that "prophetic" ..... it's like predicting the sun will come up tomorrow!!! 

 
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« Reply #979 on: July 22, 2008, 08:07:01 PM »

"Joran is believed to be friends with a known ecstasy dealer in Aruba and police think that's where he got the drug," said the source.

who is that ?

Don't know...shall we guess?

Lorenzo
Freddy
Steve Croes
Jaime C
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I say Lorenzo is the one.

He's always been at the top of my list 

Mine too.

Freddy -video photography is his thang
SC-works to many odd jobs , drugs might be a side line
jaime C-nope to many odd jobs not drugs IMO
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