Lively Case Discussion #485 7/1 - 7/3/2006

[San]

What time is it! I'm confused!

It's Howdy Doody time.

[mrs. red]

Anna,

The last caller from Alabama on the Dana Pretzer Show was Debbie, from BFN!

Pita

She was wonderful!  And again, like me and Easy, absolutely NO accent!
 

I did not even know Debbie was from Alabama.  I always just say I am Anna from Alabama so I can be for both blogs although most prolly just think of me as a monkey.  I do post at BFN but not much, am a bit shy there.  But I try to read most of the posts on the main threads.

Well, she got in that they are killing their own tourism with this and that's very important to make crystal clear.  Maybe the only thing they care about.  

Bet Dana was surprised with his nine pages of questions.  we want all the participation possible to let him and all listeners know how much
interest is out there.  So I guess even palm readers are also good in a way.

Good Morning, All!

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Good Morning Anna.  I feel the same way when I post over there.

I don't know if I can post there or not... but I always read over there!

[San]

What time is it! I'm confused!

Morning, Sunshine!  Does anybody really know what time it is?  Think there is a song like that.

It is 8:22 Central.

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Yes there is and it's sung by Chicago.

[mrs. red]

What time is it! I'm confused!

It's Howdy Doody time.

San, you are one smart cookie... I had never thought of the possibility of her being run over.... I am still stunned over that!!

[mrs. red]

What time is it! I'm confused!

It's Howdy Doody time.

San, you are one smart cookie... I had never thought of the possibility of her being run over.... I am still stunned over that!!

and now it makes sense why Joran's story changed .... first no one picked him up, then deepak , then Satish...

[San]

Good Morning Anna.  I feel the same way when I post over there.

I don't know if I can post there or not... but I always read over there!

I feel like I'm out of my comfort zone when I post there.  They are all nice people but I guess I'm just used to everyone here.

[Anna]

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BOC,
Did the time correct itself when you logged in?  It does for me.  If it didn't
you might have to go into your profile and adjust it there.

Tom is still working on all that.  But usually when I log in, the time corrects on its own.

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[wreck]

What time is it! I'm confused!

It's Howdy Doody time.

I assume it is still just a "board setting" problem, but I get "logged out" every few hours or so - even though I check the "stay logged in" button. For some reason, it happens on my "home" computer more than my "work" computer. (I have cookies enabled on both).

[Easywriter]

Anna,

The last caller from Alabama on the Dana Pretzer Show was Debbie, from BFN!

Pita

She was wonderful!  And again, like me and Easy, absolutely NO accent!
 

I did not even know Debbie was from Alabama.  I always just say I am Anna from Alabama so I can be for both blogs although most prolly just think of me as a monkey.  I do post at BFN but not much, am a bit shy there.  But I try to read most of the posts on the main threads.

Well, she got in that they are killing their own tourism with this and that's very important to make crystal clear.  Maybe the only thing they care about.  

Bet Dana was surprised with his nine pages of questions.  we want all the participation possible to let him and all listeners know how much
interest is out there.  So I guess even palm readers are also good in a way.


Good Morning, All!

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Yeah, maybe the South will rise again! lol

Man, I kept thinking about all of what Art said last night.  I think I am going to listen again and then read the transcripts.  He covered a lot of ground and it all gave me a sick feeling deep in my stomach.  I don't know how Beth and Dave kept it together.  I'm afraid I would have done something CRAZY!

[San]

What time is it! I'm confused!

It's Howdy Doody time.

San, you are one smart cookie... I had never thought of the possibility of her being run over.... I am still stunned over that!!

Yes mrs. red I thought of that possibility months ago.  I always knew it had to be bad and it was something they could not explain.  How would you explain a girl getting run over trying to escape the people who are raping her and filming it.  I believe if this indeed happened it was done on purpose it was no accident.  It is disturbing to think about.

[Anna]

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If Natalee were running away from them or jumped out of the car while it was moving, I can see them running her down.  In a heartbeat!  But I had thought Joran was threatening the K2 with something that had happened
at some time in the past that perhaps Paulus had assisted with.  Then there is the odd case of the  member of law enforcement detained right now for either running domebody down with his car or falsifying the report?  Or both?  Dangerous place for pedestrians.  

[mrs. red]

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If Natalee were running away from them or jumped out of the car while it was moving, I can see them running her down.  In a heartbeat!  But I had thought Joran was threatening the K2 with something that had happened
at some time in the past that perhaps Paulus had assisted with.  Then there is the odd case of the  member of law enforcement detained right now for either running domebody down with his car or falsifying the report?  Or both?  Dangerous place for pedestrians.  

but is that because of the way we think?  I had thought the same thing... but it totally makes sense the way joran's story changed about that detail.... remember in every lie there is some truth (supposedly...) and look at how that lie changed.... and that would be why k2 didn't pick him up... they were all already there.... OMG... makes me nauseous

[Anna]

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If Natalee escaped and were running away but did not have clothing and they ran her over, the injuries would not be right if they then attempted to
return the clothing to her body.  Would not match.  There might be injuries underneath the clothing like abrasions, etc.  That could create a problem for returning the remains.  

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[San]

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If Natalee escaped and were running away but did not have clothing and they ran her over, the injuries would not be right if they then attempted to
return the clothing to her body.  Would not match.  There might be injuries underneath the clothing like abrasions, etc.  That could create a problem for returning the remains.  

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I agree Anna.

[San]

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If Natalee escaped and were running away but did not have clothing and they ran her over, the injuries would not be right if they then attempted to
return the clothing to her body.  Would not match.  There might be injuries underneath the clothing like abrasions, etc.  That could create a problem for returning the remains.  

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I agree Anna.

I have also said and so has KatzHome that if she was bady hurt that it was Paulus decision to let her die.

[mrs. red]

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If Natalee escaped and were running away but did not have clothing and they ran her over, the injuries would not be right if they then attempted to
return the clothing to her body.  Would not match.  There might be injuries underneath the clothing like abrasions, etc.  That could create a problem for returning the remains.  

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I agree Anna.

I have also said and so has KatzHome that if she was bady hurt that it was Paulus decision to let her die.

which is beyond my imagination... but I do believe it.

[JuJu]

I hope the infamous 4 see her face everytime they close their eyes and have nightmares about what they did to her.  You all know way more than I do about the case.  What do you think is keeping the 2K quiet?

[Easywriter]

I hope the infamous 4 see her face everytime they close their eyes and have nightmares about what they did to her.  You all know way more than I do about the case.  What do you think is keeping the 2K quiet?

Participation in the crime and a warning from Paulus.

If I lived in Aruba and witnessed what has happened with this case, there is no way I would go to the polis and tell them Jack Chit!  I would have to get off the island and talk directly with the FBI.

[JuJu]

I wish there was a way by either email or snailmail that we could bombard them with mail.  They all desperately want this to disappear.  Sorry, I am just venting and wishing I could help.  It hurts my heart.

[Peaches]

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If Natalee escaped and were running away but did not have clothing and they ran her over, the injuries would not be right if they then attempted to
return the clothing to her body.  Would not match.  There might be injuries underneath the clothing like abrasions, etc.  That could create a problem for returning the remains.  

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Good morning!  
I read that re-dressing the victim rarely works.  Good detective can always tell.