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« Reply #220 on: July 17, 2008, 07:13:56 PM »

 

MY TWO JORAN VAN DER SLOOTS

Which one of these kids is doing his OWN THING?



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« Reply #221 on: July 18, 2008, 12:20:37 AM »

You seething, gut-wrenching maggots

HURT our honey bunny!!!!!!!



You will never fully rest again.

There are plenty of people out there that will help see to that.

HOW DARE YOU?


Just who in the hell do you people think you are, that you could get
away with such an act so vile????








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« Reply #222 on: July 19, 2008, 06:18:38 PM »

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« Reply #223 on: July 19, 2008, 10:16:27 PM »



You will find very few people who love this baby-bunny

more than I. Except for maybe her family and friends.


I am the KING OF THE LUG NUTS!!!!

I really have no idea what that just meant.

Forgive me, I have a very bad disease that makes

me say things at times that are terribly inappropriate.

Please just smile and act like nothing has happened.


I thank you for your support.
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« Reply #224 on: July 20, 2008, 08:11:13 AM »














CLOSE-UP


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« Reply #225 on: July 20, 2008, 09:51:24 AM »



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« Reply #226 on: July 20, 2008, 05:49:18 PM »



I found it too, sweetheart.










In my mind, there are two types of people who cannot see it.


There are the good hearted people who simply cannot see it
because all of the details of what it would take for her to be
in that bag at that time. For instance, state of decomp.
blah blah blah...   Their mind gets bogged down in the minutiae.
of it all, and they just cannot see it. Yet they are still good
people.


The next group is the group that pisses me off. They are the ones
who did it, and the ones who are protecting those that could do
such a heinous act of barbarism to a defenseless 18 year old girl.


All she wanted to do was have a fun time in Aruba, and come home.

Natalee had done NOTHING TO THESE PEOPLE. Nothing.


She is there, Blonde.

We are not crazy.
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« Reply #227 on: July 21, 2008, 05:32:18 AM »

Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye.
 
-H. Jackson Brown, Jr.





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« Reply #228 on: July 21, 2008, 06:18:18 PM »

P 72-73  JORAN'S BOOK
 
Madison and her friends always teased Natalee in Aruba, since she was wearing a very Natalee unlike, short skirt. According to Madison, Natalee was a virgin and wouldn’t allow someone to touch her. She wouldn’t ‘kiss with boys’. A weird statement since relatives of Natalee have confirmed that Natalee’s ex-boyfriend Jeremy Brown was also on the trip. Madison on the other hand, wears short skirts very often and is flirting a lot. According to Madison, Natalee wasn’t very much of a “party-animal” this holiday; she didn’t party more than the other students in Aruba.
 
At home, Natalee had been a very light, social drinker on the weekends, although she didn’t take more than three or four drinks. Natalee always woke up early. She didn’t smoke, and if she’d ever blowed, then it wasn’t more often than once or twice.
 
Ruth has never witnessed natalee using drugs.




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JORAN'S TV INTERVIEW ON "A CURRENT AFFAIR"


Joran van der Sloot: When her parents showed up at my door with her picture I didn’t even know who Natalee Holloway was. I didn’t even know her name. 

Reporter: How can you not know her name, if you saw her the night before? 

Joran van der Sloot: Well, I saw her the night before, but it was not like I had a conversation with her for 3 hours. I mean we barely talked. She told me a couple of things about herself, where she was going to school. Where she was from. She told me a couple of things about her family that I thought was really strange. And that was about it. (Motorcycle noise) 

Reporter: What did she tell you? That you can remember. 

Joran van der Sloot: She told me a lot of things.




Which Joran Vandersloot is he today???
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« Reply #229 on: July 22, 2008, 06:37:00 AM »

Today my focus is on Natalee's right hand in the basin.

She is still wearing her club access bracelet.

She appears to have discoloration on her index finger.






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« Reply #230 on: July 23, 2008, 01:16:59 AM »

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« Reply #231 on: July 23, 2008, 06:38:49 AM »


IT CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS THIS...




Primetime Live  ABC Thursday February 23, 2006


Interviewer:  Innocent people usually don’t sit around when people are looking for a young woman who’s missing and think up how to lie about it.

Joran van der Sloot:  Well, at one point, I was – I thought I was way too – too deep into it, and it was too late to go forward and tell the truth because then you would look bad. You would look guilty. So now at this point, we have to stick with the story. If not, they’re gonna think we had something to do with this.


Natalee fell down and hit her head.


paraphrasing

They are making an excuse, so if the body is found it will
explain the head wound.   -Mark Fuhrman



Joran Van der sloot never makes reference to the head wound
again after the following interview.



Joran makes references to Natalee hitting her head in Police
statements, and in discussing the case in general.



The last reference to it comes:

Primetime Live Interview ABC Thursday February 23, 2006


........



Interviewer:  Why not just tell them the truth? Why didn’t you?

Joran van der Sloot:  I didn’t want anyone to know. I didn’t want anyone to know I left her at the beach.

Interviewer:  Lot of thought went into this fake story. Do you understand why that would be troubling to people?

Joran van der Sloot:  There wasn’t actually a lot of thought in it at all. It was basically making it up as come along. Actually just saying that – that only thing we were gonna say was we dropped her off at the hotel. And then, when her family showed up, they’re like, ‘okay, well, then let’s go to the hotel.” We went to the hotel and then Deepak made up a story that there was a security guard there that walked up to her and took her by the hand and took her in & took her inside and that she fell out of the car and . . .

Interviewer:  Yeah, what’s that about?  You told police that Natalee fell out of the car when she got out to go. Why did you tell them that?

Joran van der Sloot:  For no specific reason, just as a detail, like you just said.


.......





"Joran first told Police his friend Deepak drove him.
Then said it was Deepak's brother, Satish."



Interviewer:  Why would you do that?

Joran van der Sloot:  From the beginning, I talked to Deepak and we’d agreed that he’d keep his brother out of this.



......


Deepak & Satish BOTH DRIVE THE CAR.

This is no secret, and Satish was doing it as an unlicensed driver, consistently.




.....

ALE SECRET RECORDINGS

June 29th, 2005



Joran:  I have said nothing about burying.  The only thing what I can think of, is that you know people that it is the people of automotive enterprises.

Satish: Yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah,yeah,yeah, then I had a flat tire, right?   Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah... I picked you up, right.  And then I went back to the beach for her.

Joran:  Who has said that?

Satish:  You said that.

Joran:  I have never said that friend.  I have never said that you went back, friend.

Joran: That's your problem. If they find that girl, then they will see that shit.


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Joran:  And you Satish, they're telling me that you asshole, see ghosts in the [jail]cell. They told me that you saw the girl in your cell and that you were very scared.

Satish: Me seeing ghosts? Two other boys were seeing ghosts.  You also believe the people who are here in jail. That has nothing to do with ghosts and that is just garbage shit what you say





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Joran:  I should have killed you, +++++. Shut your trap.

Deepak: Won't be fun, if you are standing in front of the judge of instructions tomorrow. Why not? Too much evidence?

Joran:  Then they are also allowed to hit me. Do you think that it makes a difference to me. One slap will be enough.

Satish:  You think, you think.

Joran:  What do you think, that you are going home to get your gun?

Satish: That I have a gun.

Joran: Satish, you, get gun at home, me shoot you two dead.

Satish:  Look, the police already went to my house and already investigated [searched] the house. Did they find a gun? What will she get?  ["Wat zal zij krijgen." The word 'zij' is for the word 'she' or for 'they', but they use the singular verb for 'will', therefore'she']



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Joran: Don't you think that the police is interested in knowing that Satish touched a girl with the car? 
[the word 'geraakt' is being used, translated here literally, but you can use the word 'hit' also in the context].

Satish: He heh one [?], you let me laugh boy, just laugh




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Satish:  With us, with us, can they get evidence, but with you not. [ a bit unclear: It's: bij ons, bij ons. Kunnen zij bewijzen krijgen, maar bij jou nief] With lies, you don't get evidence,

Joran:  All that shit of "Karen," all of you two don't know of no shit. f*** you two.

Deepak:  You think that the girl has nothing on, you will see who fucked who (this sentence was not good to understand) [note of the police officer]



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****

The bulk of the evidence was in and on the car.


With Deepak's last sentence though, it almost sounds like he is threatening Joran with:

I kept Natalee's clothes as an insurance policy.




*****

PATRICK VAN DER EEM - OVERBOARD


P But one thing I don’t understand.. Oke, she lies there and she’s dead, heh…. That friend…, heh…I know this friend is your father.. I know it Joran.

J No, no, no.

P Why not? Why would somebody who picks you up tell you “you have to go to school”. After you said that to me, I knew it.

J No

Joran again strongly denies that his father is involved.

Joran also says that the friend wasn’t there when it all happened and also that all events went so terribly fast.



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J: Yeah, and I’ve never known everything, you know.
P: What do you  mean, never knew everything?
J: Yeah, I knew what happened, but you know…I can’t say anything about that. You can’t do that. You can’t jeopardize those other people right?
P: What other people…there was only one right?
J: Yes……Daury. I don’t want to cause trouble for him.
P: And your father knows as well, man.
J: My father doesn’t know at all. My father has….he knows nothing. He knows nothing about any of this. That’s the worst part of it all. That man would die, he wouldn’t be able to deal with this. He wouldn’t hurt a fly. My father is weak.





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* My spec:

Satish hit Natalee with the car, or Natalee jumped from it while in and out of

consciousness, she was with it just enough to know:


1: They had no plans of taking her back to the Holiday Inn.

2. Joran was trying to rape her in the back seat.



I think she very well may have jumped from the vehicle while it was moving,

and possibly got herself run over by the back left tire. Perhaps a drunken

Satish Kalpoe, who had slugged down a YARD, threw it in reverse and backed

over her lying on the pavement, after she had jumped out? They were all drunk

off C & C Yards.


ALE CONFISCATED HONDA PICTURES



REAR LEFT TAIL LIGHT KNOCKED OUT

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REAR LEFT TIRE MISMATCH

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Natalee Holloway seat assignment in the Honda Civic:

REAR LEFT SEAT / BEHIND DRIVER



.........


By the time Paulus steps in:


a. not thinking about long term consequences like children do, they'd ALREADY
   shot her in the head to end her suffering, or just to make sure she was
   dead.

or maybe

b. Paulus organizes her retrieval by bringing her back to the Vandersloot
   House of Horrors, and does the deed himself, to protect his ZOONLIEF.


She was most likely not disposed of in one night, like Joran would like us to believe.



........


"The Girl" that I'll never get out of my heart.








Natalee Holloway



* I love that honey bunny like good pannekoeken!!!!!

Everybody does, there was a lot to love.

Nobody will ever give up on Natalee!!!!

































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« Reply #232 on: July 25, 2008, 12:20:44 AM »




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« Reply #233 on: July 29, 2008, 10:45:00 AM »

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« Reply #234 on: November 24, 2008, 12:05:53 PM »

I miss you terribly Carpe, please come back!

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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