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« Reply #200 on: July 24, 2008, 07:16:24 PM »

Blonde - not our Mr Pink......  http://goodtimes.webshot.com/photo/435320587072055610qyyTec
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« Reply #201 on: July 24, 2008, 07:31:03 PM »

Looks like another traffic fatality:



Accidente cu morto na Washington       
Thursday, 24 July 2008 - 19:19 
Algo promer cu 7 or di anochi ta sosode un accidente na Washington. Algun rato despues ta drenta e informe di esnan promer na e sitio cu un di e personanan no ta duna senjal di bida. Aki nos tin di menciona cu despues di e tristo noticia cu diabierna ultimo y diadomingo ultimo Aruba a conoce caso di morto den trafico, awe diaranson Aruba ta di luto pa un otro morto den trafico. Reporteronan di 24ora.com ta na e sitio pa ricibi mas informacion y imagen. Keda pendiente pa esakinan.
 

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accidente cu dead at washington
 thursday, 24 july 2008 - 19:19

 algo before 7 or of night is sosode one accidente at washington. some rato after is enter the informe of esnan previous to at the sitio cu one of the personanan do not give senjal of life. here we have of menciona cu after of the tristo news cu diabierna ultimo y diadomingo ultimo aruba owing to conoce caso of dead in trafico, today diaranson aruba is of luto for one another dead in trafico. reporteronan of 24ora.com is at the sitio for ricibi more informacion y imagen. stay pendiente for esakinan. come across

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« Reply #202 on: July 24, 2008, 07:32:40 PM »


Always - tried to fix your link but it still doesn't work. 
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« Reply #203 on: July 24, 2008, 07:43:10 PM »

Aruba is in no position to layoff health care workers(as we have recently read)...if anything they should be recruiting workers.
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« Reply #204 on: July 24, 2008, 07:47:18 PM »



Polemica tocante di e sleeping policenan

 

http://www.24ora.com/
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« Reply #205 on: July 24, 2008, 07:51:41 PM »

I am working on the link Klassend.  I am pretty good at finding things, cruddy at relaying them.
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« Reply #206 on: July 24, 2008, 07:57:37 PM »

I do like these cartoons at Diario...



What does this mean?  Did someone ask about elections in Aruba earlier in this thread?
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« Reply #207 on: July 24, 2008, 07:57:41 PM »



Polemica tocante di e sleeping policenan

 

http://www.24ora.com/

Yeah I think they were counting on the speed bumps to slow cars down and they aren't working.   
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« Reply #208 on: July 24, 2008, 08:05:50 PM »

Aruba is in no position to layoff health care workers(as we have recently read)...if anything they should be recruiting workers.

i think i read a couple of weeks ago that aruba had sent a delegation to aruba to court health care workers.  i don't remember whether they told what specialties they were looking for.
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« Reply #209 on: July 24, 2008, 08:31:09 PM »

Wreck - I still cant get that link to work if you have time will you do this for me - go to Webshots - click on good times - type in abscompton and then go down to crystal and danille at Carlos and Charlies ----Thanks so much.
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« Reply #210 on: July 24, 2008, 08:41:32 PM »

Wreck - I still cant get that link to work if you have time will you do this for me - go to Webshots - click on good times - type in abscompton and then go down to crystal and danille at Carlos and Charlies ----Thanks so much.
Is this what you are looking for? (you were missing the "s" in webshots.com)

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1435318429072055610iqNtJz

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/365649721ZfllRc

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1365662025072055610uWVhVD
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« Reply #211 on: July 24, 2008, 08:47:34 PM »

Thanks Wreck,  there are some other pictures in that same group on Aruba June 10th.  Maybe helpful....
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« Reply #212 on: July 24, 2008, 08:53:55 PM »

These pics were from June 10th?? There was a story early on about GVC taking a tourist back to a hotel --- he got a frantic phone call and left post haste. Many here will remember better than I!
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« Reply #213 on: July 24, 2008, 08:54:33 PM »

Wreck - I still cant get that link to work if you have time will you do this for me - go to Webshots - click on good times - type in abscompton and then go down to crystal and danille at Carlos and Charlies ----Thanks so much.
Is this what you are looking for? (you were missing the "s" in webshots.com)

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1435318429072055610iqNtJz

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/365649721ZfllRc

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1365662025072055610uWVhVD

A pic of GVC but that's no big surprise

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« Reply #214 on: July 24, 2008, 09:02:01 PM »

is that other young guy Jamie??/
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« Reply #215 on: July 24, 2008, 09:07:50 PM »

The one that says random cutie from Aruba - is that Jamie
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« Reply #216 on: July 24, 2008, 09:11:12 PM »

The one that says random cutie from Aruba - is that Jamie

No it's Geoffrey von Cromvoirt - the one who's father used to own the VBC Security company.

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« Reply #217 on: July 24, 2008, 09:25:59 PM »

These pics were from June 10th?? There was a story early on about GVC taking a tourist back to a hotel --- he got a frantic phone call and left post haste. Many here will remember better than I!

Hi wreck...Is this the one...

Interview With Cromvoirt Acquaintance

Though currently studying abroad, I was able to establish contact and do a brief phone interview with a young American girl acquainted with current detainee in the Natalee Holloway investigation, Geoffrey van Cromvoirt.

She is still somewhat shaken by news of his arrest, particularly as it was June 9th, 2005, the night Joran Van der Sloot and the two Kalpoe brothers were arrested, when she met GVC at Carlos and Charlies. She was able to provide the day of the week, Thursday, which matches with the night of the three boys arrests. After speaking with her, I've no reason to doubt her veracity.

GVC was alone at Carlos and Charlies that night keeping mostly to himself. She could only remember him saying hello to one other person passing by that night in the club. After some initial eye contact, it was she who approached GVC. He immediately appeared to open up.

One item of possible interest, he told her that he worked during the day taking tourists out on a Catamaran. While I have no way of ascertaining it was the same catamaran, I do recall photos taken by the Mountain Brook students showing that they did take such a trip.

GVC struck her as something of a self promoter, constantly talking about himself, his many connections and his family's supposed wealth. She also recalled seeing images of some famous individuals he had stored in his cell phone, noting that GVC did not appear with those people in said pictures. Still, he insisted they were friends.

On another night, she may have been less receptive to the seemingly brash young man, but she found him attractive, she was on vacation and the two eventually danced. She indicated that there were no drugs involved, though both were drinking. At some point, GVC offered her a ride to her hotel and a male friend of the young woman went along.

GVC did apparently brag about being involved with security, trying to exert some pressure on a hotel guard to acknowledge who he was. The guard apparently failed to acknowledge him in any significant manner. She believes he was driving a jeep at the time, possibly blue and that he also mentioned a recent or pending purchase of a truck, color unknown.

Back at her hotel, it was decided that he would leave behind his ID and possibly some other wallet contents with her friends as security before the two went back out alone together. They spent approximately a half an hour or so together, primarily on the beach. The only potentially unusual thing she noticed during their time on the beach was that he might have been a bit nervous, looking about - at one point claiming he saw a security guard coming. She could not see a guard.

After some time on the beach his cell phone started ringing but he did not answer it. She believes it rang several times in succession, possibly as many as seven times. When she inquired about the calls, he stated that it was his Mother and that he had to get home. He kept reiterating, he had to go. She was puzzled at this as she believed him to be 19 years old at the time.

After a night of being extremely talkative, mostly about himself, she did eventually ask him in a casual way about the Natalee Holloway case. She feels very strongly that it was at that point his demeanor significantly changed. He almost completely stopped talking while the two were walking, swiftly now, back to her hotel.

She asked a few different questions ... if he knew of the case, of those involved, what was it that he thought. But he did not answer any of those questions, or change the topic. He mostly just stopped talking at all. They returned to her hotel, a friend brought down his things and that was the last she saw of him until his recent arrest. She felt he all but took off running, likely related to the phone calls, as he left.

Later after leaving the island, the interaction did leave her with a strange feeling, mostly because of his sudden silence when the topic of Natalee Holloway came up. Unsure if it meant anything, or not, eventually she did call the FBI. She gave them what information she could as regards the encounter, much of which I have now relayed here.

It remains unclear what, if any connection GVC has to the Holloway case. But at least one individual who spent some time with the boy soon after the disappearance was troubled enough about his demeanor simply talking about the case to make a call to the FBI.

I have agreed to keep her identity secret.




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« Reply #218 on: July 24, 2008, 09:27:43 PM »

Ok, Wreck, do you think it could like in the old days when they used a lamp (kerosene) so running againt the lamp would mean running againt time???

Like running into the fire? comparable to our saying 'out of the frying pan and into the fire? just a guess.....like running into more trouble?
I don't think there is anything cryptic here -- just a very "everyday phrase" that doesn't translate well to English. For example, we might say something like "he saw the light." It would translate from Dutch to English something like "he envisioned floor lamp".

MO....I don't think Joran will ever "see the light" as we understand it...if this goes on for a few more years or so I believe he will get in deeper and tick off the wrong person and they will take him out....he doesn't really know how to play the game...MO...
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« Reply #219 on: July 24, 2008, 09:29:07 PM »

Oops...Sorry...Welcome Echo and the other new posters...
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