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« Reply #460 on: July 28, 2008, 04:41:04 PM »

 

Rob, good to see you ole friend! I enjoyed your post. I have been pobering the case this afternoon and something hit me.

HAS NELSON ODUBER EVER DENIED A COVER-UP?

HAS RUDY CROES EVER DENIED A COVER-UP?

HAS KARIN JANNSEN EVER DENIED A COVER-UP?

HAS BEN VOCKING EVER DENIED A COVER-UP?

HAS JAN VAN DER STRATEN EVER DENIED A COVER-UP?

HAS GEROLD DOMPIG EVER DENIED A COVER-UP?

HAS JUDGE BOB WIT EVER DENIED A COVER-UP?

HAS JUDGE RICK SMID EVER DENIED A COVER-UP?


The Aruban government and judiciary have been accused over and over again in the media and internet of covering up the crimes against Natalee and none of them have ever denied it.
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« Reply #461 on: July 28, 2008, 04:41:27 PM »

OMG  IS THE WHOLE COUNTRY ON DRUGS DOWN THERE? LOL

http://www.mifmaruba.com/gallery.html

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« Reply #462 on: July 28, 2008, 04:43:19 PM »

joran's brother  hunting in the Party Bus


Looks like that photo is taken at someone's home.  I'll see if I can figure out what it is from.  It is fairly recent though, within the last 6 months I'd guess.


She looks like she just saw Joran's teenie weenie, or lack of one thereof.

 
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« Reply #463 on: July 28, 2008, 04:47:13 PM »

Rob - I agree and great to see you back. 



Thank you Klaas, good to be back!!!

here's a new one - hot off Fox!

British Newlywed Murdered While on Honeymoon in Antigua

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,392101,00.html

- let's see how Antigua deals with this one.


A British doctor was killed and her newlywed husband critically wounded in an apparent robbery at a beach hotel in Antigua, officials in the Caribbean island said Monday.

At least one gunman entered their cottage at Coco's Hotel before dawn Sunday and shot Catherine Bowen and Benjamin Mullany, Police Commissioner Gary Nelson said.


Authorities have questioned several people but have not made any arrests, Nelson said.

A special task force that includes police and members of the military set up checkpoints in the area of the attack and searched cars and people's backpacks for any leads, he said.

Mullany was in critical condition at Holberton General Hospital in the Antiguan capital of St. John's, with a gunshot wound.

The couple, both 31, came to Antigua for a two-week honeymoon following their July 12 marriage, police said.

Mullany was a doctor from the Pontardawe area of south Wales, the British Broadcasting Corp. reported.

Harold Lovell, tourism minister of the two-island nation of Antigua and Barbuda, met with guests at the hotel, in the island's southwest, and said security would be increased in the area. The government offered to relocate any guests who wanted to leave.

"We were able to get the guests together in the dining room and to reassure them that this is an isolated incident and that Antigua remains a safe destination," Lovell said.

Bowen was the 10th person slain so far this year in Antigua.


DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?
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« Reply #464 on: July 28, 2008, 04:51:25 PM »

This is very strange !

JUDGE ROBERT WIT OBSTRUCTS THE GATHERING OF EVIDENCE

Joran van der Sloot was arrested on June 9, 2005 and a search warrant was issued for a complete search of the Van der Sloot residence and property five days later on June 14th. When the prosecution and police teams arrived to search the home they were met at the door by Dutch judge Robert Wit who summarily change the search warrant on the spot to exclude the Van der Sloot main residence and grounds, limiting the search only to Joran’s small apartment in the back of the house.

Judge Wit blocked the search of the van der Sloot residence even though he knew through Joran's police statements that he said he was in the main house in the early morning hours when he returned home after supposedly dropping Ms. Holloway off. In other words, Judge Wit ignored testimony by a key suspect to obstruct the collection of evidence from the suspect's residence.

Joran was arrested twice and his father was arrested once in the first month of the investigation. The main residence of the Van der Sloot home was never searched after either of these arrests.




Then he waits 2 1/2 years to defend himself, calling Dompig a liar. I choose to believe Judge Bob Wit is the liar, otherwise he'd have made his decision clear in December 2005 when Dompig first revealed he had blocked both searches.
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« Reply #465 on: July 28, 2008, 04:52:32 PM »

Has this been discussd? Here is a long article explaining how Aruba was bought by the mafia.

http://www.frankcass.com/jnls/toc.htm

..a snippet..."The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied."

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« Reply #466 on: July 28, 2008, 04:53:30 PM »

joran's brother  hunting in the Party Bus


Looks like that photo is taken at someone's home.  I'll see if I can figure out what it is from.  It is fairly recent though, within the last 6 months I'd guess.

Kinda looks like a bar/restaurant to me just by the way the wine glasses are suspended in the background along the ceiling.

yes this is in a bar
the touristic bus stops sometimes
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.

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« Reply #467 on: July 28, 2008, 04:58:29 PM »

Another snip..."The Cuntrera-Caruana clan had links with another Aruban bank: the Interbank. The bank granted a credit to the Cuntrera company "Investeringen Tweehonderd en Tien" for 1.8 million Aruban guilders (approximately one million dollars). Why the Cuntreras who own several investment companies in Venezuela needed the loan is unknown.

One could speculate, however, this was a 'loan-back' operation to launder money. An amount of money is deposited cash at a bank and the bank lends the money back: now there is a clean and legitimate source of earnings.
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Jossy Mansur is the owner and chief editor of the biggest newspaper on the island, "Diario". "When I read an article in Diario, I know what will be the next action of the government,"says Hendrik Croes, adding that the Mansurs create a climate of fear and intimidation on Aruba."
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« Reply #468 on: July 28, 2008, 05:00:26 PM »

Thats a girl in that picture??? Well, where, pray tell is her blouse??  Maybe Carpe should draw one on her as well.
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« Reply #469 on: July 28, 2008, 05:04:04 PM »

"The Intercon Financial Bank on Aruba is represented by the law-firm Croes & Wever. One of the partners is former Minister of Justice Hendrik Croes. The firm's trust-company Arulex was implicated in setting up the bank. "Yes, we are involved with that bank," says Croes. "We still handle all their legal affairs, but we don't know anything of their financial accounts."

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« Reply #470 on: July 28, 2008, 05:19:12 PM »

Former Minister Plenipotentiary for Aruba Wever died
28 Jul, 2008, 17:52 (GMT -04:00)

ORANJESTAD/AMSTERDAM – The former Minister Plenipotentiary for Aruba in the United States, Roy Wever died unexpectedly on Sunday at the age of 58.

Up until this time, Wever had been head of the Legal Affairs department of the Aruba house in the Netherlands. The funeral ceremony will be held coming Wednesday in The Hague, after which his remains will be flown over to Aruba to be buried. Apart from having been the Minister Plenipotentiary for Aruba in the United States, Wever was also Advisor for Crime and Terrorism Prevention, Representative for Aruba in the Financial Action Task Force and Managing Director of CB-JAZ.

 http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44969.php
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« Reply #471 on: July 28, 2008, 05:24:15 PM »

Thats a girl in that picture??? Well, where, pray tell is her blouse??  Maybe Carpe should draw one on her as well.
she used some partydrugs ?
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« Reply #472 on: July 28, 2008, 05:24:42 PM »

Former Minister Plenipotentiary for Aruba Wever died
28 Jul, 2008, 17:52 (GMT -04:00)

ORANJESTAD/AMSTERDAM – The former Minister Plenipotentiary for Aruba in the United States, Roy Wever died unexpectedly on Sunday at the age of 58.

Up until this time, Wever had been head of the Legal Affairs department of the Aruba house in the Netherlands. The funeral ceremony will be held coming Wednesday in The Hague, after which his remains will be flown over to Aruba to be buried. Apart from having been the Minister Plenipotentiary for Aruba in the United States, Wever was also Advisor for Crime and Terrorism Prevention, Representative for Aruba in the Financial Action Task Force and Managing Director of CB-JAZ
 http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_44969.php

...and what a bang-up job he did in that capacity!
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« Reply #473 on: July 28, 2008, 05:26:13 PM »

Has this been discussd? Here is a long article explaining how Aruba was bought by the mafia.

http://www.frankcass.com/jnls/toc.htm

..a snippet..."The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey. This has not been denied."



Quisp, when I click on your link above, it's redirecting me to : http://www.routledgestrategicstudies.com/

I'm getting lost.

The topic, however, has been discussed, but another link was used...I have it somewhere, just not handy right now.
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« Reply #474 on: July 28, 2008, 05:26:34 PM »

"The Intercon Financial Bank on Aruba is represented by the law-firm Croes & Wever. One of the partners is former Minister of Justice Hendrik Croes. The firm's trust-company Arulex was implicated in setting up the bank. "Yes, we are involved with that bank," says Croes. "We still handle all their legal affairs, but we don't know anything of their financial accounts."

unreal...

I don't know how Hendrik Croes could make a statement about now knowing anything about financial accounts when Arulex, among others, is listed as a corporate body of Intercon Financial Bank.  Hendrik Croes is a Managing Director of Arulex N.V.


INTERCON FINANCIAL BANK N.V.  
Business address PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  INTERCON FINANCIAL BANK N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  8 DECEMBER 1989 

 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
ARULEX N.V.  
Established at  ARULEX CENTER, PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Since  8 DECEMBER 1989 

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ARULEX N.V. 
 
Business address PUNTA BRABO Z/N, ORANJESTAD WEST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  ARULEX N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  28 MARCH 1973 
Last amendment in the articles  20 JULY 1988 
     
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
CROES, HENDRIK SEFERINO
Residing in  SEROE PITA 22, PARADERA, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 8 JANUARY 1942 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  19 SEPTEMBER 1975 
Authority  FULL 
   
TCHONG, PETRUS JOANNES; 
Residing in  BYRONSTRAAT 13, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 26 DECEMBER 1944 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  26 OCTOBER 1995 
Authority  FULL 
   
WEVER, IRIS; 
Residing in  ESMERALDA 37, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 8 FEBRUARY 1965 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  1 SEPTEMBER 1997 
Authority  FULL 
   
WEVER-CROES, EVELYN CHRISTINA; 
Residing in  SEROE BLANCO 245, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 5 DECEMBER 1966 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  11 MARCH 2004 
Authority  FULL 
   
PASSCHIER, DAVID MARTIN; 
Residing in  SEROE BIENTO 15-A, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 14 OCTOBER 1973 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  11 MARCH 2004 
Authority  FULL 


   
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« Reply #475 on: July 28, 2008, 05:31:11 PM »

Thats a girl in that picture??? Well, where, pray tell is her blouse??  Maybe Carpe should draw one on her as well.


It looks like one of those androgynous mixes Joran hangs out with,

where you can't tell if it is a setter or a pointer...

Don't tell me Valentijn is batting out of both sides

of home plate, as well? They are all so gay.

It has to be in the water!
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« Reply #476 on: July 28, 2008, 05:34:19 PM »

Welcome back Rob.

I agree with what you said except the Sloots and US.  Val will be going to school in Boston (or maybe the Netherlands' branch). It was unclear.  I am sure the family will accompany him to school and assist in the settling.   
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« Reply #477 on: July 28, 2008, 05:38:52 PM »

Thats a girl in that picture??? Well, where, pray tell is her blouse??  Maybe Carpe should draw one on her as well.


It looks like one of those androgynous mixes Joran hangs out with,

where you can't tell if it is a setter or a pointer...

Don't tell me Valentijn is batting out of both sides

of home plate, as well? They are all so gay.

It has to be in the water!

Now guuuyyyyys she looks very cute you are being kinda harsh. Her pupils look a tad dilated ...but cute none-the-less.
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« Reply #478 on: July 28, 2008, 05:46:25 PM »

Were exactly is choose a Name on this pic ?

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« Reply #479 on: July 28, 2008, 05:47:25 PM »

Thats a girl in that picture??? Well, where, pray tell is her blouse??  Maybe Carpe should draw one on her as well.
she used some partydrugs ?

I have seen that face before!

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