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Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #520 9/4 - 9/7/2006  (Read 127924 times)
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« Reply #560 on: September 06, 2006, 12:30:57 PM »

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Have been reading through old sites.  Came across this description of money laundering.  Best I've heard.  Early reports were Natalee left with a drug dealer...maybe...or maybe a drug money launderer...hmmm

Bscenario.....

I'm a drug dealer with a wad of dirty cash......you abd a dozen other street-urchins each go to the casino and lose 10k of my cash to a certain dealer in a certain "casino floor apartment". In return I will pay each of you 200 dollars for an hours work.

moral.....for 2400 bucks, I have cleaned 120k halfway......now, when I go to the "casino floor apartment" and WIN 120k dollars, I tip the dealer.
By the way, Mr Casino-owner.....please give me the 120k as a clean certified check, as I cannot travel with that much cash.

simple as that.

And aruba thrives on it.


Great example - and could explain how Joran gets some of his gambling money.  I don't doubt there are a lot of people in Aruba (including "authorities") involved in something illicit there - seems to be part of the culture.  But as someone mentioned on another site - you need the clean money to hide the dirty money and Aruba is in short supply.  Smile  I'm sure the drug and money laundering "culture" is a widespread problem on many Caribbean islands.
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« Reply #561 on: September 06, 2006, 12:39:13 PM »

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Unholstered Weapons & ...

...out of uniform.  HHhhhmmm.

Behavior designed to intimidate and makes statement that "I Am The Law".  However, this is completely untrue: neither van der Straaten nor Jacobs in position to "intimidate" anyone.

HT posse, per private air travel, in position to bring their own weapons to bear on situation -- so would that be the answer for van der Straaten: to have a shootout in front of ISA?  OR, would van der Straaten gun down unarmed search party participants, just to show who is boss?

Neither would happen.  But it is more instructive of boorish mindset and bullying behavior of senior police officers who out of uniform, brandish their "officially-issued" weapons at innocents.

And if the polis are too busy tracking HT posse around immediately after disappearance, then who is executing the vaunted "tactical maneuvers" -- the close following and electronic surveillance of suspects -- publicized by ALE as reason for not immediately apprehending JK2?[/quote]

What a farce!  Experts from the US and Aruba claim that even a confession, without corroborating evidence, is unlikely to result in a murder conviction.  So ALE claims it was "tactical" to give up any chance of finding evidence of a crime to listen to what the boys have to say, knowing that Paulus will advise them to stay off their cells and computers.  The police car tape tells us they did know their phones were being monitored - Joran chastising Deepak for calling him about Steve Croes.  Would that be Paulus obstructing justice?  And now getting paid for it?
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« Reply #562 on: September 06, 2006, 12:53:11 PM »

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Well, I just tried to join that ABC board and it wouldn't let me in.

PPHHFFFFTTTTTT on it.


Ok, now I'm thinking conspiracy theory - I couldn't get on either and I live in the midwest, not the southeast.
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« Reply #563 on: September 06, 2006, 12:57:33 PM »

Good morning everyone!  How's things?
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« Reply #564 on: September 06, 2006, 12:58:43 PM »

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O/T

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I'm dining at the Big River tonight.  Very Happy


ooooooooo what is Big River?

SOunds like fun!


I'm going out dancin' Jacq ~ wanna come?
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« Reply #565 on: September 06, 2006, 12:59:51 PM »

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This was just posted in the front page area by Sharon Chicago:

SOMETHING must be going on behind the scenes…because
Kelly is laying low no comments on the upcoming investigation…. Man…how sweet it is…if the Holland
Police are coming in to clean house and make some arrests.

Joran and his father should have a whiff of whats coming
down the pike… I bet they both have the blues!! It’s
only the beginning of the end for them. Justice for Natalee!!


Note:  Sharon Chicago makes an excellent point.  I hope she is right!


I hope so, too, Klaas!
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« Reply #566 on: September 06, 2006, 01:07:49 PM »

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Good morning everyone!  How's things?


Hi Katz!  How are you?
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« Reply #567 on: September 06, 2006, 01:13:08 PM »

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Ok it is up I hope I am giving you the right link. It is posted under Natalee Holloway forum. Listed as Letter from Holloway Twittys and Art Wood in 3 parts.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=318


Thanks!  I don't need an actual copy, just needed the text.
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« Reply #568 on: September 06, 2006, 01:18:20 PM »

It's obviously a sad state of affairs when you have a 'third effort' at an investigation of an investigation occur..  Skepticism will no doubt abound.  As well it should,!! I believe we'll know and feel, right from the 'git go',,,, whether 'truth' ,,,,or 'smoke and mirrors' is the purpose of this.. it's been on display too long !!!!!   ''We won't get fooled again''..............

Go Cowboys !!!!!!!!!!!



God Bless Natalee, Wherever She is ...............
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« Reply #569 on: September 06, 2006, 01:18:39 PM »

Klaas, No I did not save the original JPG of the letter. Folks were complaining because they could not read it. I had a hard time reading it as well which is why I typed it up. Sorry

Nonesuch and Hammer, I also read the post from Vietvet as very informative as well. He just tells it like it is. I wish he posted more often. I also wish he posted in here. It seems like he did post in here a couple of times and was harrassed by some of our posters. I could be remembering wrong though.

Sam
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« Reply #570 on: September 06, 2006, 01:22:00 PM »

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Good morning everyone!  How's things?


Hi Katz!  How are you?


Great Kimmy {{{hugs}}}  How are you?

 Embarassed Sorry...  I went outside, doing stuff, for a little bit...
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« Reply #571 on: September 06, 2006, 01:24:23 PM »

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Ok it is up I hope I am giving you the right link. It is posted under Natalee Holloway forum. Listed as Letter from Holloway Twittys and Art Wood in 3 parts.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=318


Thanks!  I don't need an actual copy, just needed the text.


Shizaru, I just want you and everyone else know, on that last page where they signed the letter, it is typed just the way they signed it. Beth Twitty not Elizabeth and Jug Twitty not (Shoot can not remember his Birth name. LOL)
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« Reply #572 on: September 06, 2006, 01:34:54 PM »

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Good morning everyone!  How's things?


Hi Katz!  How are you?


Great Kimmy {{{hugs}}}  How are you?

 Embarassed Sorry...  I went outside, doing stuff, for a little bit...


I'm doing good..  No worries - I was reading some news....
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« Reply #573 on: September 06, 2006, 01:35:52 PM »

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Quote from: "Sam"
Ok it is up I hope I am giving you the right link. It is posted under Natalee Holloway forum. Listed as Letter from Holloway Twittys and Art Wood in 3 parts.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=318


Thanks!  I don't need an actual copy, just needed the text.


Shizaru, I just want you and everyone else know, on that last page where they signed the letter, it is typed just the way they signed it. Beth Twitty not Elizabeth and Jug Twitty not (Shoot can not remember his Birth name. LOL)


Thank you so much for doing that, Sam!


And ~ I'm kinda pleased this morning too...  I updated the Natalee Bumper Sticker website...  there's 3 different letter size pages to download that are in .pdf format ~ and the major difference with these bumper stickers is that they have the TES Logo on them, with the TES website underneith ~ and they print clearly enough for the small print of the site to be easily read in the .pdf format...

they don't in .gif or .jpg format....
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« Reply #574 on: September 06, 2006, 01:43:06 PM »

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Good morning everyone!  How's things?


Hi Katz!  How are you?


Great Kimmy {{{hugs}}}  How are you?

 Embarassed Sorry...  I went outside, doing stuff, for a little bit...


I'm doing good..  No worries - I was reading some news....


Cool...  and I'm so glad that I got that Natalee site fixed, with better files on it ~ now I have to work on updating my own website...  I ran out of space and it got kinda messy and I couldn't fix it...  now I can because I bought more room...

Kimmy...  are you the one who wanted any P graphics that I either made or happened across?  If so ~ or if you just want to ~ send me an email at this address ~ and I'll send you an email back from my real email address...

signs-of-natalee@earthlink.net
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« Reply #575 on: September 06, 2006, 01:52:29 PM »

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O/T

Note to Peaches:

I'm dining at the Big River tonight.  Very Happy


ooooooooo what is Big River?

SOunds like fun!


I'm going out dancin' Jacq ~ wanna come?


 Laughing  Laughing  Laughing Would love to!
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« Reply #576 on: September 06, 2006, 01:54:39 PM »

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Go Cowboys !!!!!!!!!!!



God Bless Natalee, Wherever She is ...............



GO GIANTS! Wink
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« Reply #577 on: September 06, 2006, 02:00:13 PM »

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Go Cowboys !!!!!!!!!!!



God Bless Natalee, Wherever She is ...............



GO GIANTS! Wink


Are the Giants still in NY, Jacq?

 Embarassed Sorry to be so sports dumb...  but, if they are ~ I pull for the NY teams too...  but like the Mets waaaaaaaay better than the Yankees
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« Reply #578 on: September 06, 2006, 02:02:00 PM »

Yep Katz - you got mail.

I haven't been around alot - working and lurking, training a new employee, and....Joy of Joys - I get to go to my annual "Check up" today - if ya know what I mean. Shocked
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« Reply #579 on: September 06, 2006, 02:05:53 PM »

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Go Cowboys !!!!!!!!!!!



God Bless Natalee, Wherever She is ...............



GO GIANTS! Wink


Are the Giants still in NY, Jacq?

 Embarassed Sorry to be so sports dumb...  but, if they are ~ I pull for the NY teams too...  but like the Mets waaaaaaaay better than the Yankees



God help me,,,
I'm a Cowboys and Yankees fan and I live in Minnesota...   Laughing
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