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« Reply #800 on: September 07, 2006, 12:55:59 PM »

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« Reply #801 on: September 07, 2006, 01:21:38 PM »

Hi Monkeys!  How's everyone? Feeling all right, I hope!

We hear anything new in the case?  I think it was yesterday that it was noted by a couple of the Monkeys that Holland may not even have stepped in yet to begin the investigation anew?  That they might be waiting until the end of September?

Any confirmation on that?

Or has this "new" investigation already begun?  Anyone know?
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« Reply #802 on: September 07, 2006, 01:33:18 PM »

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Does anyone know if Larry Garrison was on GMA this morning?


Yes he was... He said that someone who knows the truth is starting to speak but it will take a while...  I think someone did actual transcription earlier this a.m. This is from my memory so not word for word.   Laughing


ooooo  this is good news indeed....  I sure hope it's true!  I'm glad I scrolled back ~ saw SB's post that there is rumor that someone who walked in darkness is comng to the light because of the statements... and I thought *that* was good news...  

But then I read a little further back ~ and it seems that someone might be talking....   much, much, much better news....

Now to scroll back a little more to find the transcript for that show....
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« Reply #803 on: September 07, 2006, 01:35:34 PM »

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I am thinking Koen may be the one singing.

I don't think Deepak has enough scruples to tell the truth, he is like an empty vacuum as far as morality and compassion are concerned. There's just "nothing" there. Plus, he and Satish BOTH know they have virtually no protection from the bad guys if they backlash against him... or his family. Let's be plain about it... Joran and Koen and the Dutch elitists have resources the Ramirez-Kalpo family cannot even dream about.

If Koen is peripherally involved, he strikes me as being a prime "crack" candidate. He would know, yet not be responsible. That's the person who usually blows the whistle.


I would be surprised if it was Koen has he is to buddy buddy with Joran If someone is squealing like a pig it is someone that is no longer friends with Joran
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« Reply #804 on: September 07, 2006, 01:44:11 PM »

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I am thinking Koen may be the one singing.

I don't think Deepak has enough scruples to tell the truth, he is like an empty vacuum as far as morality and compassion are concerned. There's just "nothing" there. Plus, he and Satish BOTH know they have virtually no protection from the bad guys if they backlash against him... or his family. Let's be plain about it... Joran and Koen and the Dutch elitists have resources the Ramirez-Kalpo family cannot even dream about.

If Koen is peripherally involved, he strikes me as being a prime "crack" candidate. He would know, yet not be responsible. That's the person who usually blows the whistle.


I would be surprised if it was Koen has he is to buddy buddy with Joran If someone is squealing like a pig it is someone that is no longer friends with Joran

And all the photos we saw this summer the only two people we didn't see were Deepak and Freddy.  Unless it is someone totally different.
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« Reply #805 on: September 07, 2006, 01:49:19 PM »

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I have more hope in what Larry Garrison and Shizaru are saying, than I have in ANYTHING the Dutch will do to help Natalee's family.

Come on Dutchies, the ball is in your court to PROVE that you aren't part of the cover-up. Give Joran and the perps up to us before we blow the lid on the Hague and your gambling-drug-porno empire. That's a challenge.


SO what is Shiz saying?  He knows who it is?


No, what I said has nothing to do with Garrison.

Personally I wouldn't get too exited about Garrison's comments.  I don't trust him at all, in fact I think he's a nut.  I've been told that Garrison thinks Joran is innocent and that Natalee is still alive.  Maybe he's changed his mind too.  But I wouldn't be surprised if this "person talking" isn't a bogus witness pointing away from J2K.
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« Reply #806 on: September 07, 2006, 01:53:48 PM »

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I am thinking Koen may be the one singing.

I don't think Deepak has enough scruples to tell the truth, he is like an empty vacuum as far as morality and compassion are concerned. There's just "nothing" there. Plus, he and Satish BOTH know they have virtually no protection from the bad guys if they backlash against him... or his family. Let's be plain about it... Joran and Koen and the Dutch elitists have resources the Ramirez-Kalpo family cannot even dream about.

If Koen is peripherally involved, he strikes me as being a prime "crack" candidate. He would know, yet not be responsible. That's the person who usually blows the whistle.


I would be surprised if it was Koen has he is to buddy buddy with Joran If someone is squealing like a pig it is someone that is no longer friends with Joran

And all the photos we saw this summer the only two people we didn't see were Deepak and Freddy.  Unless it is someone totally different.


Yup San I really dont think it is someone Joran has been hanging with all summer UNLESS they saw him for the creep he really is as I had read here that he was booted from Bahia club for sexual exploits in the bathroom ... so much for having a girlfriend for 6 months but then again he had a girlfriend when he murdered Natalee
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« Reply #807 on: September 07, 2006, 01:56:20 PM »

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I have more hope in what Larry Garrison and Shizaru are saying, than I have in ANYTHING the Dutch will do to help Natalee's family.

Come on Dutchies, the ball is in your court to PROVE that you aren't part of the cover-up. Give Joran and the perps up to us before we blow the lid on the Hague and your gambling-drug-porno empire. That's a challenge.


SO what is Shiz saying?  He knows who it is?


No, what I said has nothing to do with Garrison.

Personally I wouldn't get too exited about Garrison's comments.  I don't trust him at all, in fact I think he's a nut.  I've been told that Garrison
thinks Joran is innocent and that Natalee is still alive.  Maybe he's changed his mind too.  But I wouldn't be surprised if this "person talking"
isn't a bogus witness pointing away from J2K.




I have heard Larry say he thinks the boys know more then they are telling
I got the impression he didnt buy Jorans story one bit
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« Reply #808 on: September 07, 2006, 01:58:46 PM »

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I have more hope in what Larry Garrison and Shizaru are saying, than I have in ANYTHING the Dutch will do to help Natalee's family.

Come on Dutchies, the ball is in your court to PROVE that you aren't part of the cover-up. Give Joran and the perps up to us before we blow the lid on the Hague and your gambling-drug-porno empire. That's a challenge.


SO what is Shiz saying?  He knows who it is?


No, what I said has nothing to do with Garrison.

Personally I wouldn't get too exited about Garrison's comments.  I don't trust him at all, in fact I think he's a nut.  I've been told that Garrison thinks Joran is innocent and that Natalee is still alive.  Maybe he's changed his mind too.  But I wouldn't be surprised if this "person talking" isn't a bogus witness pointing away from J2K.


I don't trust him either Shiz.......
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« Reply #809 on: September 07, 2006, 01:59:23 PM »

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Yup San I really dont think it is someone Joran has been hanging with all summer UNLESS they saw him for the creep he really is as I had read here that he was booted from Bahia club for sexual exploits in the bathroom ... so much for having a girlfriend for 6 months but then again he had a girlfriend when he murdered Natalee


Exactly.

When he said that on GMA I laughed.  Chris Coumo did not do his homework.
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« Reply #810 on: September 07, 2006, 02:00:14 PM »

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Yup San I really dont think it is someone Joran has been hanging with all summer UNLESS they saw him for the creep he really is as I had read here that he was booted from Bahia club for sexual exploits in the bathroom ... so much for having a girlfriend for 6 months but then again he had a girlfriend when he murdered Natalee


Exactly.

When he said that on GMA I laughed.  Chris Coumo did not do his homework.


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« Reply #811 on: September 07, 2006, 02:13:53 PM »

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I have more hope in what Larry Garrison and Shizaru are saying, than I have in ANYTHING the Dutch will do to help Natalee's family.

Come on Dutchies, the ball is in your court to PROVE that you aren't part of the cover-up. Give Joran and the perps up to us before we blow the lid on the Hague and your gambling-drug-porno empire. That's a challenge.


SO what is Shiz saying?  He knows who it is?


No, what I said has nothing to do with Garrison.

Personally I wouldn't get too exited about Garrison's comments.  I don't trust him at all, in fact I think he's a nut.  I've been told that Garrison
thinks Joran is innocent and that Natalee is still alive.  Maybe he's changed his mind too.  But I wouldn't be surprised if this "person talking"
isn't a bogus witness pointing away from J2K.




I have heard Larry say he thinks the boys know more then they are telling
I got the impression he didnt buy Jorans story one bit


I'm not really sure what Garrison thinks.  All I can say is that someone who I believe has had some contact with Garrison, and is not pro-Joran, told me Garrison thinks Joran is innocent.  Whether that is true or not I don't know.  I do know that Garrison strikes me as a shady and rather weird person.
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« Reply #812 on: September 07, 2006, 02:18:32 PM »

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Judson hears Twitty's story of faith journey
Thursday, September 07, 2006
After several days of no food or sleep in Aruba in June 2005, Beth Holloway Twitty mother of missing Mountain Brook-teen Natalee Holloway hailed a cab and said, "Just take me to a church."

The driver stopped about a mile from a church on a hill at the first of several white crosses leading up to the church.

Twitty got out and dropped to her knees in the gravel before the cross, begging for her daughter's life or an answer for the pain. She did this at each cross and finally at the sixth got her answer, she said.

"It was a complete and overwhelming peace. I knew wherever Natalee was, God had her wrapped in His arms."

At Judson College's first chapel service of the year Aug. 30, Twitty shared the story of how her faith has brought her comfort during the painful experience of her daughter's disappearance during a senior trip to the island last year.

It was a year ago that Natalee should have been starting school like the Judson students, Twitty said, so it was special for her to get to speak.

"And it's meaningful for the young women at Judson to hear Beth Holloway Twitty's story of the peace that's found in God in the midst of pain," said Judson President David Potts. (TAB)


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RIGHT HERE is why the High Left and the Aruban porno culture hates Beth so much.

She is too good for them. She represents everything they are NOT.

She represents Light, while those roaches scrabble around in moral darkness.

I'm telling y'all, do not discount the socio-cultural and political underpinnings of this case. This case is a "hate America" and "hate Christians" case on many, many levels. People don't just naturally display the level of cold, hard hate toward a person like Beth that the RU crowd shows unless those people are fueled by a deeply ingrained Evil beyond this world.


SB - I soo agree with your view on this.  She has and is continuing to be persecuted.  I cannot in my wildest dreams imagine what this family has gone thru and continues to go thru.


I know, Kimmy ~ that's why I've decided to walk this one thru to the end...

It was so ugly at the beginning...  Not on this board ~ I wasn't here at the beginning ~ but man....  the battles I fought on WS ~ defending Natalee, Beth and Jug... and Jamie Skeeters...  and Jossy...

Oh man ~ I am so glad that time is over...  now is just the big push ~ for a real ocean search for Natalee's remains ~ and the push for all involved in the death and disappearance and the subsequent cover-up to be brought to justice!
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« Reply #813 on: September 07, 2006, 02:20:23 PM »

I will believe it when I hear it from Beth, Dave, Jug, Robbin or JQK..  One thing I have learned from this crime is that a lot of people have hidden agenda's and those are the ones that have caused the most hurt.. I used to wait to watch Greta, no more..  I think I lost all hope after they told us around Christmas that they were going to bring the suspects back in for questioning and it never happen..  Then I was totally convinced that Natalee's family would never see any justice from that island..  I now take the attitude that you have to prove to me because I take nothing from that island as anything worth anything..
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« Reply #814 on: September 07, 2006, 02:20:56 PM »

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I have more hope in what Larry Garrison and Shizaru are saying, than I have in ANYTHING the Dutch will do to help Natalee's family.

Come on Dutchies, the ball is in your court to PROVE that you aren't part of the cover-up. Give Joran and the perps up to us before we blow the lid on the Hague and your gambling-drug-porno empire. That's a challenge.


SO what is Shiz saying?  He knows who it is?


No, what I said has nothing to do with Garrison.

Personally I wouldn't get too exited about Garrison's comments.  I don't trust him at all, in fact I think he's a nut.  I've been told that Garrison thinks Joran is innocent and that Natalee is still alive.  Maybe he's changed his mind too.  But I wouldn't be surprised if this "person talking" isn't a bogus witness pointing away from J2K.


Oh no!  ::slaps forehead::  Oh, please, God...  don't let it be this...
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« Reply #815 on: September 07, 2006, 02:23:30 PM »

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I have more hope in what Larry Garrison and Shizaru are saying, than I have in ANYTHING the Dutch will do to help Natalee's family.

Come on Dutchies, the ball is in your court to PROVE that you aren't part of the cover-up. Give Joran and the perps up to us before we blow the lid on the Hague and your gambling-drug-porno empire. That's a challenge.


SO what is Shiz saying?  He knows who it is?


No, what I said has nothing to do with Garrison.

Personally I wouldn't get too exited about Garrison's comments.  I don't trust him at all, in fact I think he's a nut.  I've been told that Garrison thinks Joran is innocent and that Natalee is still alive.  Maybe he's changed his mind too.  But I wouldn't be surprised if this "person talking" isn't a bogus witness pointing away from J2K.


I don't trust him either Shiz.......


I really don't know him at all, Jacq...  and I don't really know what he's been saying...  so I have no "feel" for how much worth to put on the morsel of information that he provided...
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« Reply #816 on: September 07, 2006, 02:25:32 PM »

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I'm not really sure what Garrison thinks.  All I can say is that someone who I believe has had some contact with Garrison, and is not pro-Joran, told me Garrison thinks Joran is innocent.  Whether that is true or not I don't know.  I do know that Garrison strikes me as a shady and rather weird person.

oooo  Okies...  I'll keep this post in mind...  thank you.
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« Reply #817 on: September 07, 2006, 02:39:19 PM »

Hey Katz - how are ya?  I got your e-mail - thanks!!!

I hope what Larry G. says is true - but like terryd says - prove it to me first.  It is so sad to have to be that way.  We have all been burned so many times.
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« Reply #818 on: September 07, 2006, 03:08:16 PM »

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Hey Katz - how are ya?  I got your e-mail - thanks!!!

I hope what Larry G. says is true - but like terryd says - prove it to me first.  It is so sad to have to be that way.  We have all been burned so many times.


Hey Kimmy!  I'm doing good ~ and U? Laughing And, you're welcome, Kimmy!  I've got a TON more!  I made a bunch of CD labels and what-not too, if you're interested...  instead of just screen shots...

And yeah...  I'm taking the stance that if I hear it from the family, or JQK, then I know it to be true ~ if not...  prove it to me...

I'm still not sure if the "new" investigators from Holland have even started investigating this yet ~ or if they're waiting until the end of September!!!!!
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