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« Reply #860 on: September 07, 2006, 05:19:28 PM »

Dana, I would love to know if Dave feels there are things going on behind the scenes that could give us some hope and if he feels JQK is helping to move things forward on this case.

I am not asking him for specifics.  I don't want to know their strategy because I don't want anyone to know it.  I just want to know how he is feeling at this particular time about the case and if there is much/any movement in a positive direction.

Thanks, Dana, for what you are doing for this family.
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« Reply #861 on: September 07, 2006, 05:21:43 PM »

Larry Garrison appeared to be very pro-Dave Holloway.  He said he was a one of a kind man.

He also said he had a 22 year old daughter who said to him, Dad, if this ever happened to me, please don't stop looking for me.

I think that is where you find his motivation.  I think he could picture his daughter being a NH.
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« Reply #862 on: September 07, 2006, 05:22:02 PM »

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Quote from: "mrs. red"
Dang, it's past quittin' time...

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Dana – Do you still have that email Garrison sent you after PVDS was awarded the money in Aruba?  He made his feelings pretty clear in that one I believe.
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« Reply #863 on: September 07, 2006, 05:24:17 PM »

JVDS Statements AND Statistics

The trotting out of the goon and his challenged legal help for yet another round of "I didn't do it" shows the pressure sloots are facing.  This softball interview by flatulent TV "personality" Cuomo is an attempt to give sloot cabal another chance to frame the conversation to their advantage.  However, the one-sided nature of the questioning only leaves further questions unanswered.  This is just one of the main problems for a young serial rapist who has not produced -- even at this late date -- a credible alibi for the events of May 29-30, 2005.

Among the items most damning now are his own statements provided to ALE.

Monkeys have been previously and energetically diligent in noting crime statistics re: missing persons and how the last person/people witnessed w/ a crime victim have been proven through statistical probability and likelihood (based on crime records and stats) to be directly involved with the victim's unfortunate (and criminal) experience and the reasons for same.

But these statements, jvds's OWN STATEMENTS, do more.  In fact, crime statistics re: "missing persons" will corroborate to hi confidence level intervals that "last see and witnessed" w/ victim are directly involved.

ADD TO THAT: "last seen and witnessed with victim and has admitted to sexual activity (as described by jvds) with same victim" and the statistical probability that he is directly invloved in Natalee's disappearance and other crimes against her skyrockets.  

Statistically speaking -- it is almost impossible for jvds NOT TO BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED given the descriptions of sexual activity he has provided in his statements.

IMO, this GMA softball was a response (though feeble) to mass audience re: the release of these statements.  IMO also, it demonstrates that sloot cabal is concerned...

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« Reply #864 on: September 07, 2006, 05:25:01 PM »

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Quote from: "Dana"
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Dang, it's past quittin' time...

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Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.

Personally, I like the guy and trust him.  Just a gut feeling.


Thanks, Klaas, your guts hold a lot of sway with me, too.     Shocked  Wink
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« Reply #865 on: September 07, 2006, 05:26:29 PM »

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Quote from: "Dana"
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Dang, it's past quittin' time...

BBL

Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.
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Dana – Do you still have that email Garrison sent you after PVDS was awarded the money in Aruba?  He made his feelings pretty clear in that one I believe.

 No but the same message was posted here I believe.
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« Reply #866 on: September 07, 2006, 05:27:24 PM »

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JVDS Statements AND Statistics

The trotting out of the goon and his challenged legal help for yet another round of "I didn't do it" shows the pressure sloots are facing.  This softball interview by flatulent TV "personality" Cuomo is an attempt to give sloot cabal another chance to frame the conversation to their advantage.  However, the one-sided nature of the questioning only leaves further questions unanswered.  This is just one of the main problems for a young serial rapist who has not produced -- even at this late date -- a credible alibi for the events of May 29-30, 2005.

Among the items most damning now are his own statements provided to ALE.

Monkeys have been previously and energetically diligent in noting crime statistics re: missing persons and how the last person/people witnessed w/ a crime victim have been proven through statistical probability and likelihood (based on crime records and stats) to be directly involved with the victim's unfortunate (and criminal) experience and the reasons for same.

But these statements, jvds's OWN STATEMENTS, do more.  In fact, crime statistics re: "missing persons" will corroborate to hi confidence level intervals that "last see and witnessed" w/ victim are directly involved.

ADD TO THAT: "last seen and witnessed with victim and has admitted to sexual activity (as described by jvds) with same victim" and the statistical probability that he is directly invloved in Natalee's disappearance and other crimes against her skyrockets.  

Statistically speaking -- it is almost impossible for jvds NOT TO BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED given the descriptions of sexual activity he has provided in his statements.

IMO, this GMA softball was a response (though feeble) to mass audience re: the release of these statements.  IMO also, it demonstrates that sloot cabal is concerned...

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I agree Hammer on all points.
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« Reply #867 on: September 07, 2006, 05:28:57 PM »

Quote from: "Dana"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Dana"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Dang, it's past quittin' time...

BBL

Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.
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Dana – Do you still have that email Garrison sent you after PVDS was awarded the money in Aruba?  He made his feelings pretty clear in that one I believe.

 No but the same message was posted here I believe.


I don’t remember the specifics of his message, but I do recall it being a very emotionally written statement and he made himself very clear.  He was not a happy camper about the recent events surrounding this case.
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« Reply #868 on: September 07, 2006, 05:31:50 PM »

Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Dana"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Dana"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Dang, it's past quittin' time...

BBL

Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.
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Dana – Do you still have that email Garrison sent you after PVDS was awarded the money in Aruba?  He made his feelings pretty clear in that one I believe.

 No but the same message was posted here I believe.


I don’t remember the specifics of his message, but I do recall it being a very emotionally written statement and he made himself very clear.  He was not a happy camper about the recent events surrounding this case.


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« Reply #869 on: September 07, 2006, 05:32:29 PM »

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Quote from: "Dana"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Dana"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Dang, it's past quittin' time...

BBL

Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.
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Dana – Do you still have that email Garrison sent you after PVDS was awarded the money in Aruba?  He made his feelings pretty clear in that one I believe.

 No but the same message was posted here I believe.


I don’t remember the specifics of his message, but I do recall it being a very emotionally written statement and he made himself very clear.  He was not a happy camper about the recent events surrounding this case.


Red posted this one on August 3rd:

I just received an email from Larry Garrison that he wanted me to share with all of you.


It is not over till it is over. It is a sad day in hell when Paulus got paid money from an Aruban court, and Joran's civil trial is thrown out due to jurisdictional problems.

Have no fear. Dave Holloway, R. Stephanie Good and I will never give up till the truth is brought out.

Remember, there is still a reward, and someone will speak out eventually.

Aruba will sink to the bottom of the ocean until the truth comes out.

Larry Garrison
Co-author "Aruba"
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« Reply #870 on: September 07, 2006, 05:34:24 PM »

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JVDS Statements AND Statistics

The trotting out of the goon and his challenged legal help for yet another round of "I didn't do it" shows the pressure sloots are facing.  This softball interview by flatulent TV "personality" Cuomo is an attempt to give sloot cabal another chance to frame the conversation to their advantage.  However, the one-sided nature of the questioning only leaves further questions unanswered.  This is just one of the main problems for a young serial rapist who has not produced -- even at this late date -- a credible alibi for the events of May 29-30, 2005.

Among the items most damning now are his own statements provided to ALE.

Monkeys have been previously and energetically diligent in noting crime statistics re: missing persons and how the last person/people witnessed w/ a crime victim have been proven through statistical probability and likelihood (based on crime records and stats) to be directly involved with the victim's unfortunate (and criminal) experience and the reasons for same.

But these statements, jvds's OWN STATEMENTS, do more.  In fact, crime statistics re: "missing persons" will corroborate to hi confidence level intervals that "last see and witnessed" w/ victim are directly involved.

ADD TO THAT: "last seen and witnessed with victim and has admitted to sexual activity (as described by jvds) with same victim" and the statistical probability that he is directly invloved in Natalee's disappearance and other crimes against her skyrockets.  

Statistically speaking -- it is almost impossible for jvds NOT TO BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED given the descriptions of sexual activity he has provided in his statements.

IMO, this GMA softball was a response (though feeble) to mass audience re: the release of these statements.  IMO also, it demonstrates that sloot cabal is concerned...

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...not to mention that JVDS takes to being in the spotlight like a cat to cream.  

He does not present himself as a person who is in a negative media spotlight.  He is not holed up anywhere.  He has continued to live his life and appears to relish all of the attention--hands behind his head, girl on lap--can someone show me where he is thinking about NH--ever???

Does she haunt his dreams--I can't even see that, he appears to be very well rested, especially for someone who feels he is in prison and just "hates" having his picture taken.
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« Reply #871 on: September 07, 2006, 05:35:31 PM »

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Quote from: "Dana"
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Quote from: "mrs. red"
Dang, it's past quittin' time...

BBL

Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.
\

Dana – Do you still have that email Garrison sent you after PVDS was awarded the money in Aruba?  He made his feelings pretty clear in that one I believe.

 No but the same message was posted here I believe.


I don’t remember the specifics of his message, but I do recall it being a very emotionally written statement and he made himself very clear.  He was not a happy camper about the recent events surrounding this case.


Red posted this one on August 3rd:

I just received an email from Larry Garrison that he wanted me to share with all of you.


It is not over till it is over. It is a sad day in hell when Paulus got paid money from an Aruban court, and Joran's civil trial is thrown out due to jurisdictional problems.

Have no fear. Dave Holloway, R. Stephanie Good and I will never give up till the truth is brought out.

Remember, there is still a reward, and someone will speak out eventually.

Aruba will sink to the bottom of the ocean until the truth comes out.

Larry Garrison
Co-author "Aruba"


That is basically it, but I remember Dana getting one he read on air with permission and it seemed to even take it further, but that could just be my memory of the incident at the time, because we were all a little wired by those turn of events.
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« Reply #872 on: September 07, 2006, 05:36:49 PM »

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I don't know if this has been posted yet -

EXCERPT FROM LARRY'S BOOK - The News Breaker

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Books/story?id=2406142&page=1


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I have more hope in what Larry Garrison and Shizaru are saying, than I have in ANYTHING the Dutch will do to help Natalee's family.

Come on Dutchies, the ball is in your court to PROVE that you aren't part of the cover-up. Give Joran and the perps up to us before we blow the lid on the Hague and your gambling-drug-porno empire. That's a challenge.


SO what is Shiz saying?  He knows who it is?


No, what I said has nothing to do with Garrison.

Personally I wouldn't get too exited about Garrison's comments.  I don't trust him at all, in fact I think he's a nut.  I've been told that Garrison thinks Joran is innocent and that Natalee is still alive.  Maybe he's changed his mind too.  But I wouldn't be surprised if this "person talking" isn't a bogus witness pointing away from J2K.


That is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE about Garrison... guys you have to keep in mind a few things... he wrote the book with Dave, and has prevented Julia from spreading her crazyass ideas about Natalee being alive...


Thank you both for this input ~ I'm about to turn to page 2 of the book exerpt now...  thanks for that great link!
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« Reply #873 on: September 07, 2006, 05:37:52 PM »

Dana - Any idea which show that was on?
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« Reply #874 on: September 07, 2006, 05:39:55 PM »

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Dang, it's past quittin' time...

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Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.


Thanks you guys, Dana and Mrs. Red!  Greatly appreciate, and respect, both of your opinions.
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« Reply #875 on: September 07, 2006, 05:40:09 PM »

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Dana - Any idea which show that was on?

Just guessing here but if Red posted what he got on August 3rd then it was probably around that same time.
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« Reply #876 on: September 07, 2006, 05:40:47 PM »

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Quick note about my up coming shows on Friday and Sunday, all new shows and live.
Upcoming Special Guests On Sunday Night Satellite.

Next live shows.

Friday September 8th, 9pm et start time.

Special Guest Dave Holloway

Sunday September 10th, 9pm et start time.

Guests.

1. Author Mitchell Fink "The Last Days Of Dead Celibrities"

2. Author Katharine Debrecht "Help Mom There Are Liberals Under My Bed"

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Thanks for having Dave on your show, Dana!

Perhaps ask him if he knows whether or not the "new" investigation that is being handled by Holland has started yet ~ or whether they are not going to begin until the end of September...


It will be one of my first questions.


I don't know how sencere Garrison is in regards to helping with Natalee's case but I do believe this....

That someone has to record certain invents in the world. And if someone does not they won't be recorded. News media records them, but it's not the same when you get actual interviews with those closely involved. i.e. Joran, Karr ect.  Does that make sense? With books people can buy them or rent them from libraries. And over time, children who study certain cases in law school or criminal law, police investigation cases ect. It can be used as a tool. If you will.

Oh perhaps he is trying to cash in on it all, but let him record the invents. They will and are going to be history one day. Just like the murder of JFK, Marlyn Monroe, Princess Diane, ect.

God bless~
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« Reply #877 on: September 07, 2006, 05:40:57 PM »

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Dang, it's past quittin' time...

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Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.

Personally, I like the guy and trust him.  Just a gut feeling.


And yours too, Klaas!
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« Reply #878 on: September 07, 2006, 05:41:09 PM »

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Dang, it's past quittin' time...

BBL

Larry Garrison is committed to finding the truth, he is a front line journalist who tells it like it is with no spin.
Sure he is out to promote his book, thats a busniess decision.

Personally, I like the guy and trust him.  Just a gut feeling.


I am with you on that Klaasend...or I wouldn't have bought the book... Laughing
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« Reply #879 on: September 07, 2006, 05:42:28 PM »

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Dana - Any idea which show that was on?

Just guessing here but if Red posted what he got on August 3rd then it was probably around that same time.


You would probably be right about that one!  He had several guest talking about those things that night and Garrison could not be available, so he sent an email.  After hearing that one, I kind of liked the guy.  It showed he had some real feelings about all this mess.
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