Natalee Case Discussion #767 8/5 through 9/9

[Dolce]

How dare she!  Looking over these pictures just continues to infuriate me!!  How can one be so callus.....

[johan555]

Sounds like an old rumor...

Natalee had contact with people on Aruba before she disappeared.  She was partying at a timeshare or rental unit...etc.  Search her hard drive. 

it is an old  rumor! The troll's are alive !

[MumInOhio]

Breaks my heart to see a classmate of Natalee's (who was there when this happened) in that building and on that island.  Guess some did not learn an awful lot from that experience.

I understand how you feel Blue Moon, I felt that way at first; I'm to the point now after looking at so many pictures and seeing her that it makes me mad!
(to put it nicely) 

Thanks...interesting that it was the same night that the Kalpoes and Dompig were out as well for some of those pics.

Is it possible that these two sisters were in contact with guys on Aruba before the 2005 trip? IIRC Kaleigh's sister is older, she had probably made the same trip as well as the time the family spends there.

Puts a whole new perspective on all those posts I have read about some of the MB'ers having email contact before that trip and after. Joran had been hitting C&Cs since he was 15, and a lot of his friends were older. 

 

Sounds like an old rumor...

Natalee had contact with people on Aruba before she disappeared.  She was partying at a timeshare or rental unit...etc.  Search her hard drive. 

If HU's family has a time share, isn't it possible that she made friends over the years?   Maybe her family has friends (retirees, old/new friends, co-workers) or family that live on the island?  I don't think trolls made fun of her or hunted her down on-line like they did FEB and the others. 

jmho

Hi WhiskeyGirl...This is what I was trying to say....It would make a lot of sense for Haleigh and her sister to have contacts on Aruba. I have never thought that Natalee had prior contact, but I am not sure about the two Uncapher sisters.

I wonder how often they went there? Spring Break, Winter break. I wonder if they were there this time for a whole month, or if it is two separate visits that these pics were posted from.

I am beginning to think these girls knew their way around. We have heard that there was others from MB that were there at the same time, not with the group. I thought for some reason that these were older.

Dolce...I agree totally....I just don't know what to think after seeing these pics.

[MumInOhio]

Sounds like an old rumor...

Natalee had contact with people on Aruba before she disappeared.  She was partying at a timeshare or rental unit...etc.  Search her hard drive. 

it is an old  rumor! The troll's are alive !

Johan...I am not so sure. It would make sense if this family has been visiting for a while that they knew people on the island. I am pretty sure that Haleigh's sister made the trip the year before.

Joran stated that he started going to C&Cs when he was 15. With Freddy being older and them hanging around the HI and Marriott it is entirely possible that they met students from MB that made previous trips.

[johan555]

Tourists under  oil
ORANJESTAD - A dozen tourists Saturday in the sea near the beach at the Tamarijn Aruba Beach Resort besmeurd affected by thick paste oil. Among them was a number of children and an Englishman who from head to toe under the oliekoek came to sit. Unclear is who is the polluter.

Only after tourists Saturday afternoon at the hotel reported from the thick oil slicks, came the whole apparatus of organizations dealing with these matters, in motion. For example, the Coast Guard checked, the maritime police, the central police station, Aruba Ports Authority, and also Valero oil refinery. "But that was hours too late", explains Bibi Arends applied in the case of oil and other disasters can be set as national coordinator.

"It turned out that all hours earlier, in the early morning by a helicopter that was discovered oil off the coast of Aruba. They also saw that there were ships from discharging oil. Later, however, it was impossible to trace whose ships were, or where they came from. If I'm on time, do I, for example, the control tower of the airport, so that, in this case, pilots of aircraft toward Venezuela also able to give information. "

If he previously was aware, had Arends there may also be able to ensure that the tourists at the Tamarijn-hotel not in the water were gone. Now came only in the afternoon a sign at the reception that the tourists were discouraged there to go swimming.

Too late it was in any case for an English tourist who as a holiday within a short time in the fog saw. Recently he was on vacation in Jamaica but he was facing a heavy storm. According to the Englishman who completely under the oliepek Saturday, wanted to rescue his skin with thinners cleaning, as "very harmful to the skin." The man has photos of themselves in order to make his reisverzekeraar damages to be recovered. His two children had received oil in the hair, after which it took hours for that to get there again.

Valero

Most accusing fingers essentially Saturday in the direction of Valero oil refinery. "Any mention ga I myself first looking for the source, and in this case, you have good evidence if you want to start a case against Valero," says rampencoördinator Arends. "For example, there are no photographs showing that the Valero oil from the port. That makes things difficult. Valero is the person who brought me informed of this pollution. If oil refinery they have in recent years, moreover, their very best to combat and prevent oil spills, better than the previous owner Coastal. "According to Arends, it is also possible that one of the five oil tankers Saturday at the horizon to see were responsible for the pollution. "They make their tankers outside the Aruban waters clean, if not illegal. The currents that can Tamarijn have ended. "

According to the police to look into the pollution at Tamarijn, there was oil at sea Saturday also be seen at the refinery itself. Valero would however have denied that those of their origin. The voorlichtingsafdeling of Valero was just before the conclusion of this newspaper unreachable for an explanation.

Another cause of the presence of oil and at the beach, could the weather Saturday. The wind was different than normal so there was a movement towards the coast. Oil that the last time vastkoekte to piers and other objects in the water, then gets loose. The specific, pointed shape of the coast, especially when there are flush Tamarijn much junk.

A week ago, there were on the coast of Savaneta, near restaurant Flying Fishbone, including remnants of an oil pollution at sea found. That was when both the milieustichting Fundacion Accion Ambiental as oil refinery Valero noted. Valero deleted as this time when the polluting oil.

[carpe noctem]

It is still funny to me. yaYYYYYYYYYYYY! 

[klaasend]

BETH HOLLOWAY - to help search for Caylee Anthony!

[snoopy]

Breaks my heart to see a classmate of Natalee's (who was there when this happened) in that building and on that island.  Guess some did not learn an awful lot from that experience.

Talk about betrayal.  No honor at all.

[MumInOhio]

This is the only interview I have found with Haleigh....From June 9th...



http://scrux.com/natalee/clonedmsnbcjune9.htm

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HALEIGH UNCAPHER, FRIEND OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:
  Thank you.
 
SCARBOROUGH: 
Talk about the emotions of today, now in the 11th day.  Are people starting to think that this story just may not have a happy ending?
 
UNCAPHER:  I think people are still hopeful.  And they‘re trying not to focus on whether it is going to be a happy ending or not.  I think we‘re really just trying to find Natalee and get some closure to this case.
 
SCARBOROUGH:  You know, today, we got a lot of information on the Dutch man.  You spoke last night—Well, I say man.  He‘s 17 years old, the 17-year-old son, a judge‘s son who is a Dutch guy.
 
You talked about the fact that they met the night before she disappeared.  But we‘re hearing now that they met in the casino.  Can you set the stage for those of us in the United States that want to know what the hotel was like where you were staying?  There was a casino nearby.  There were bars nearby.  Talk about the casino where they met.
 
UNCAPHER:  OK. 
Well, the casino and lobby and all that is kind of separate from the sleeping quarters or whatever.  But you have to walk from where your room is, across the way, and then there is a bar on your right.  And then, as you keep walking straight, it comes right into the hotel, the main hotel, where the lobby is and the casino and everything is just right there.  And so, the main hotel kind of...

SCARBOROUGH:  Yes.  And...
 
UNCAPHER:  Go ahead.
 
SCARBOROUGH:  Keep going.
 
UNCAPHER:  Oh, I was just going to say, the hotel surrounds the pool and the bar, kind of.
 
SCARBOROUGH:  OK.  We‘re hearing also obviously that what Natalee did, meeting this young Dutch man, was not out of the ordinary, that, actually, you had a lot of locals coming into the casino, a lot of locals coming into these bars trying to pick up tourists, which, of course, happens in the Caribbean and also in other vacation resorts.  Is that correct?
 
UNCAPHER:  Well, yes. 
I mean, locals are everywhere you go, because they‘re just like you, trying to enjoy themselves as—just as much so.  They were—you know, were pretty much wherever we were, not necessarily only where we were.  But everywhere we went, you know, were locals.
 
SCARBOROUGH:  Yes. 
Now, Natalee—we‘re hearing from these reports that Natalee was intimate with this young man.  Had Natalee talked to you, had she talked to anybody else from Mountain Brook High School that was down there with her on this senior trip about this young man that she had obviously met the night before?
 
UNCAPHER:  She had never talked to me about it.  I have not talked to any of her friends.  And from what I know of, they didn‘t know.  They only knew him from Sunday night when—at Carlos ‘n Charlie‘s.
 
SCARBOROUGH:  Oh, OK.  So, they don‘t know the backstory to it, how—what we‘re hearing today, again, from the statements that were released.
 
Talk about the search today.  It looks like you‘ve been out in the sun for the better part of the day looking for Natalee.  It‘s been 11 days now.  This island, as we said last night, is no bigger than Topeka, Kansas.
 
There are 700 people that have been out searching.  The FBI is out there.  There are divers out there.  There are search dogs out there, still no—searching for Natalee.
 
Where did you all go today?  What—what‘s left to search on the island of Aruba?
 
UNCAPHER:  Well, normally, they‘ve been searching from the lighthouse to the Alta Vista, which is a church which they think that Natalee may be.  And then this area, there is just a lot of brush and just a lot of ground to cover and also little homes that we may think that, you know, people don‘t have cable or—we can‘t imagine people not knowing about this, but we are just trying to go out there just to see if, you know, people haven‘t heard about it.
 
SCARBOROUGH:  Can you talk about talk about your friends, fellow people from Mountain Brook?  What are their thoughts tonight?
 
UNCAPHER:  I just think we‘re all just really worried now. 
You know, it‘s our 11th day.  And we‘re all just anxious to find out more news.  And, yes, that‘s about—just really worried.
 
SCARBOROUGH:  All right, Haleigh.  All right, Haleigh, thanks a lot. 
We appreciate you being with us tonight.
 
UNCAPHER:  Thank you.

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[MumInOhio]

Maki
"Live slow... Kite FAST!"
Male
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Aruba

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=7177971
 
 

Thanks TM...Val loves the water and Joran gets sea sick...go figure!

[MumInOhio]

I recall a post a few weeks back about Jossy being ill, does anyone know anymore on this?

Thanks in Advance.

[Nut44x4]

I have heard nothing.

[MumInOhio]

I have heard nothing.

Good Morning Nut...Thanks!

[truthseeker2]

BETH HOLLOWAY - to help search for Caylee Anthony!

Awesome.  TES and Beth working together is a great idea.

[johan555]

on awe

DAMA TURISTA TA PERDE CONTROL RIBA QUADRACER DEN UN BIRADA Y TA BAY BOLTER RIBA TRANKERA

dead tourist ?

[johan555]

one happy island 

[texasmom]

[texasmom]

[johan555]

Police in Santa Cruz
August 27, 2008, 18:05 (GMT -04:00)



The police dog Britt is specially trained to detect marijuana, among other things, the German shepherd is therefore useful during the actions of the Special Projects Team. Photo: Cybmed


ORANJESTAD - The Special Projects Team (TBP) of the Police Corps Aruba (KPA) yesterday morning made an incursion into two houses in the district Picaron in Santa Cruz. These five people were arrested and three wietplantages rolled. It is the second major action of TBP this week. Monday twelve people were arrested in a raid on several verkoopplekken of cocaine. The TBP was supported by both actions by the Arrest Team of KPA and the police dog Britt.

Spokesman of the Public Prosecutor (OM), Angela Ann, says that during the nearly two hundred wietplanten searches have been seized. At the first house was a marihuanaplantage found with 33 wietplanten, then at the second house was also a hennepkwekerij discovered by a further 36 plants, and after further investigation into the mondi behind the first house even a small plantation discovered with 28 hennepplantjes.

The seized plants were in various stages of growth and according to the police of "high quality". Inspector Fredson Panneflek leads the TBP. He explains that the PPS together with KPA this year more emphasis on the straatverkoop of drugs. "That is the reason for the increase in the number of incursions by drug dealers and buildings. This is made possible by the good cooperation we get from the other politieafdelingen but also of the population. Without the tips and instructions of the public would not succeed so quickly to this problem. We therefore urge the population to remain mainly help in our fight against drugs, "concludes inspector Panneflek.

cannabis

Marijuana and hashish are psychedelic (mind) means that the soft products. They are both products of a single plant, Cannabis sativa, better known as the wietplant. Hasj is made from the resin of these plants, marijuana consists of the zaaddoosjes (bloemtoppen) of this plant. THC is the main active component of these drugs. This substance works on the cannabinoid receptors in the brains which the body is relaxed and in a dazzle.

[MumInOhio]

Police in Santa Cruz
August 27, 2008, 18:05 (GMT -04:00)



The police dog Britt is specially trained to detect marijuana, among other things, the German shepherd is therefore useful during the actions of the Special Projects Team. Photo: Cybmed


ORANJESTAD - The Special Projects Team (TBP) of the Police Corps Aruba (KPA) yesterday morning made an incursion into two houses in the district Picaron in Santa Cruz. These five people were arrested and three wietplantages rolled. It is the second major action of TBP this week. Monday twelve people were arrested in a raid on several verkoopplekken of cocaine. The TBP was supported by both actions by the Arrest Team of KPA and the police dog Britt.

Spokesman of the Public Prosecutor (OM), Angela Ann, says that during the nearly two hundred wietplanten searches have been seized. At the first house was a marihuanaplantage found with 33 wietplanten, then at the second house was also a hennepkwekerij discovered by a further 36 plants, and after further investigation into the mondi behind the first house even a small plantation discovered with 28 hennepplantjes.

The seized plants were in various stages of growth and according to the police of "high quality". Inspector Fredson Panneflek leads the TBP. He explains that the PPS together with KPA this year more emphasis on the straatverkoop of drugs. "That is the reason for the increase in the number of incursions by drug dealers and buildings. This is made possible by the good cooperation we get from the other politieafdelingen but also of the population. Without the tips and instructions of the public would not succeed so quickly to this problem. We therefore urge the population to remain mainly help in our fight against drugs, "concludes inspector Panneflek.

cannabis

Marijuana and hashish are psychedelic (mind) means that the soft products. They are both products of a single plant, Cannabis sativa, better known as the wietplant. Hasj is made from the resin of these plants, marijuana consists of the zaaddoosjes (bloemtoppen) of this plant. THC is the main active component of these drugs. This substance works on the cannabinoid receptors in the brains which the body is relaxed and in a dazzle.

Hi Johan...LOL...I have been following blue LE shirts around this morning and found one with TBP on it from when Lorenzo was arrested...now I know what it means...

I am wondering if the blue shirt team could be the Blue team that Caps referred to once.