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« Reply #1540 on: August 11, 2008, 02:21:12 PM »

It would take me hours to find the post I made yesterday so will put a little of what I remember from it. Please do not let Scared Monkeys turn into another RU. May none of us ever have to walk in the Anthony's shoes and have to remember everything we said and when.

From some post it appears they  are being accused of the same things some of the RU posters have accused Beth of. Lying to media, not searching for her daughter, begging for donations. So far no one has called Cindy a rancid camel toe. We have some really great researchers here. Do not let that change to a hate group. There are enough of those out there in the world.

A week and a half ago I visited the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. One of the inscriptions on the wall reads:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Socialist.

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    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
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another inscription as you leave the museum
Remember what you saw here today speak out against injustice, whenever and wherever you see it.

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« Reply #1541 on: August 11, 2008, 02:24:48 PM »

If Anthony's are asking/accepting psychic help....do you think they're finally admitting there is/never was any babysitter??  Or are they going to say the sitter is to blame for Caylee's fate??
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« Reply #1542 on: August 11, 2008, 02:26:05 PM »

Does anyone else feel that this air gas testing being done in the trunk, isn't a positive indicator that the DNA testing on the stain has produced proof of anything?

Why would they need the gas tests, if the stain or hair conclusively showed that Caylee was there, and Caylee was dead?
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« Reply #1543 on: August 11, 2008, 02:27:42 PM »

I'd also like to know more about Jose Baez.  Who is paying him?  Who is he associated with?  His comments to the media have been strange, to say the least.  I've read that Casey hired him, not her parents, upon another jail inmate's recommendation.  Discounting the "recommendation," how can Casey hire a lawyer?  Where did the retainer come from?  Why isn't she represented by a public defender? 

This case has some money links that raise the hair on my neck!
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« Reply #1544 on: August 11, 2008, 02:30:12 PM »

Does anyone else feel that this air gas testing being done in the trunk, isn't a positive indicator that the DNA testing on the stain has produced proof of anything?

Why would they need the gas tests, if the stain or hair conclusively showed that Caylee was there, and Caylee was dead?

They wouldn't need air testing if the stain testing was positive.  Does it seem like the police are trying to make the evidence fit their theory of what happened?  Admitting that we don't know everything LE knows, I still find their investigation proceeding rather oddly for a missing child investigation.
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« Reply #1545 on: August 11, 2008, 02:31:18 PM »

http://www.local6.com/news/17154890/detail.html

Click on surprise visit in the video section

Cindy Anthony says the police information that was released stating there were no phone calls on the phone records from Caylee to Casey on the 15th was a "Misstatement".

When the reporter asked her directly "so you're saying that DID happen", she wouldn't answer.
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« Reply #1546 on: August 11, 2008, 02:31:25 PM »

BT , I had thought of the ran over scenario as well. I do stil think the left in hot car is a most likley.


I am bringing this forward and asking again.Ok should we be counting back from the date the car was picked up from the impound lot? Sense Cindy is saying the pizza had maggots on it at that time.
Did Cindy actually say the pizza had maggots on it?I thought she was just throwing out different senarios about how the smell could have gotten there.

I would like to know this too. I have missed the maggot statement.

I'm reading out of order (read newer stuff first for an update) Now reading back to see what I missed. Don't know yet if anyone answered this.. But the maggots where (Supposedly) in the car not on the pizza:


Anthony's "Rotten Pizza Theory" Tested By Eyewitness News
WFTV.vom ^ | 7/31/08

Posted on 07/31/2008 5:52:42 PM PDT by freespirited

One of the biggest clues detectives have in the case of missing 2-year-old Caylee Anthony is a foul stench in the trunk of the car her mother, Casey, was driving. The family claimed the stench wasn't caused by Caylee's body, but instead by a rotted pizza.

Eyewitness News has had plenty of viewers question how an old pizza could be confused with a decomposing body. Caylee's grandmother said that the car didn't smell of death, but instead rotting pizza in the trunk. So, Eyewitness News decided leave one in a car to see what happened.

It's not the most scientific experiment, but it might shed light on the validity of the "rotting pizza theory." Eyewitness News took a basic Domino's Meatzza pizza and put the leftovers inside a locked car in the Florida sun.

"It smells like there was a dead body in the damn car," Cindy Anthony told a 911 dispatcher in a call to turn in her daughter.

A detective told prosecutors he smelled it, too.

"The evidence of decomposition would lead you to believe, would it not, that there is the possibility that this child is no longer alive?" the prosecutor asked Det. Yuri Melich.

"Yes, that can be concluded," he said during court room testimony.

"How do you deal with what they're saying about in the trunk of the car?" Eyewitness News later asked Cindy Anthony.

"There was a bag of pizza for like 12 days in the trunk of the car full of maggots. It stunk so bad, you know how hot it's been," she said.

But the Eyewitness News experiment doesn't support the smelly pizza theory after temperatures in the 90s. After seven days, the moisture was gone from the pizza and it had the consistency of shoe leather. More importantly, you have to get really close to smell anything and, when you do, the smell is pizza.

Channel 9 managing editor Joel Davis volunteered his car for the experiment.

"About every other day I've taken a look at it. The first day or two, you open the trunk and you have the smell of pizza. But after that, nothing," he said. "No smell whatsoever."

Detectives also said two cadaver dogs alerted on the trunk of the car Casey allegedly stole from her parents. Cindy Anthony said the pizza was in the car for 12 days, so Eyewitness News will revisit the pizza again in five days.
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« Reply #1547 on: August 11, 2008, 02:32:41 PM »

If Anthony's are asking/accepting psychic help....do you think they're finally admitting there is/never was any babysitter??  Or are they going to say the sitter is to blame for Caylee's fate??

Do you have a link that says the Anthony's asked for or accepted  Psychic help?
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« Reply #1548 on: August 11, 2008, 02:34:11 PM »

Does anyone else feel that this air gas testing being done in the trunk, isn't a positive indicator that the DNA testing on the stain has produced proof of anything?

Why would they need the gas tests, if the stain or hair conclusively showed that Caylee was there, and Caylee was dead?

I remember watching a show about "the body farm". The body farm has developed an artificial nose that can sniff out evidence of human decomposition and decay, recognizing compounds found in the air where decomposition occurs.

I don't know if they can narrow down time with the testing or not.
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« Reply #1549 on: August 11, 2008, 02:34:31 PM »

If Anthony's are asking/accepting psychic help....do you think they're finally admitting there is/never was any babysitter??  Or are they going to say the sitter is to blame for Caylee's fate??

Do you have a link that says the Anthony's asked for or accepted  Psychic help?

I didn't see anywhere that they asked for this. I believe it was unsolicited.
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« Reply #1550 on: August 11, 2008, 02:34:49 PM »

If Anthony's are asking/accepting psychic help....do you think they're finally admitting there is/never was any babysitter??  Or are they going to say the sitter is to blame for Caylee's fate??

Do you have a link that says the Anthony's asked for or accepted  Psychic help?

It was just on FOX about 5 minutes ago
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« Reply #1551 on: August 11, 2008, 02:36:26 PM »

Does anyone else feel that this air gas testing being done in the trunk, isn't a positive indicator that the DNA testing on the stain has produced proof of anything?

Why would they need the gas tests, if the stain or hair conclusively showed that Caylee was there, and Caylee was dead?

They wouldn't need air testing if the stain testing was positive.  Does it seem like the police are trying to make the evidence fit their theory of what happened?  Admitting that we don't know everything LE knows, I still find their investigation proceeding rather oddly for a missing child investigation.

Agreed, AZ. Lord Knows, Casey hasn't given them any reliable info to pursue, and I guess they're grasping at any scenario that is plausible, to see if it fits. I think the thing that makes the investigation unusual is matched by how unusual it is that a Mom isn't given them anything other than lies.
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« Reply #1552 on: August 11, 2008, 02:37:31 PM »

I'd also like to know more about Jose Baez.  Who is paying him?  Who is he associated with?  His comments to the media have been strange, to say the least.  I've read that Casey hired him, not her parents, upon another jail inmate's recommendation.  Discounting the "recommendation," how can Casey hire a lawyer?  Where did the retainer come from?  Why isn't she represented by a public defender? 

This case has some money links that raise the hair on my neck!

I have asked the same question like 3 times ...who is paying this lawyer.  Obviously as you said she has no way to pay him. 

I think that unless they follow the cell phone pings and find Caylee, Casey is going to keep her trap shut as her lawyer has advised her and get the bare minimum sentence for neglect.  Which will be quite the travesty.  Evidence is the only thing that is going to help at this point.

We had a case locally not too long ago involving a vindictive X-wife, Jessica McCord who assisted with the murder of her X and his wife and she had a pretty good alibi until they were able to prove by the cell phone pings that she was not where her alibi said she was.

I was hoping cell phone pings would show something in this case.
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« Reply #1553 on: August 11, 2008, 02:40:20 PM »

Portugal Case 'Eerily Similar'

An attorney for Casey Anthony is now drawing parallels between her disappearance and that of a missing girl in Portugal as the family continues to be overwhelmed with gifts from strangers.

Madeleine McCann vanished from an apartment in the resort of Praia Da Luz, on the Algarve in May of last year and until recently her parents were considered suspects in the case.

In June, Portuguese authorities closed the probe into the disappearance of the young British girl and lifted the "suspect" label from her parents due to a lack of evidence.

Caylee Anthony vanished in Orlando about two months ago and her mother has been considered a person of interest in the case by investigators.

On Saturday, the attorney of Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, said the cases are similar.

"It is eerily similar," Baez said. "Fortunately for them, they had the money to be able to prove all of these things incorrect. This family is not made that way."

IMO I see nothing similar in these 2 cases, except that Maddie and Caylee are still missing!
Unless he's suggesting that Casey left Caylee alone while she went out partying.....
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« Reply #1554 on: August 11, 2008, 02:42:41 PM »

Does anyone else feel that this air gas testing being done in the trunk, isn't a positive indicator that the DNA testing on the stain has produced proof of anything?

Why would they need the gas tests, if the stain or hair conclusively showed that Caylee was there, and Caylee was dead?

I remember watching a show about "the body farm". The body farm has developed an artificial nose that can sniff out evidence of human decomposition and decay, recognizing compounds found in the air where decomposition occurs.
I watched that program as well and it is truly amazing what modern technology can do.  At this point though, I would like to see them return to water-boarding.  Make that beeeotch talk!  Waiting for her to crack may never reveal anything as she has no emotion and no conscience.JMO.

I don't know if they can narrow down time with the testing or not.
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« Reply #1555 on: August 11, 2008, 02:44:41 PM »

Does anyone else feel that this air gas testing being done in the trunk, isn't a positive indicator that the DNA testing on the stain has produced proof of anything?

Why would they need the gas tests, if the stain or hair conclusively showed that Caylee was there, and Caylee was dead?

I remember watching a show about "the body farm". The body farm has developed an artificial nose that can sniff out evidence of human decomposition and decay, recognizing compounds found in the air where decomposition occurs.
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I don't know if they can narrow down time with the testing or not.
Geez, i'm on it today...this is what it should've looked like...sorry guys!
I watched that program as well and it is truly amazing what modern technology can do.  At this point though, I would like to see them return to water-boarding.  Make that beeeotch talk!  Waiting for her to crack may never reveal anything as she has no emotion and no conscience.JMO.

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« Reply #1556 on: August 11, 2008, 02:45:21 PM »

If Anthony's are asking/accepting psychic help....do you think they're finally admitting there is/never was any babysitter??  Or are they going to say the sitter is to blame for Caylee's fate??

Do you have a link that says the Anthony's asked for or accepted  Psychic help?

It was just on FOX about 5 minutes ago


Sorry to be a pest but did it specifically  say they had asked for it ? I do know the psychics come out of the woodwork for these high profile cases.
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« Reply #1557 on: August 11, 2008, 02:47:25 PM »

To Troy on Facebook
Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote
"at 2:40pm on June 24th, 2008
she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven’t even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. i’ll fill ya in later on.
miss ya, yo.

To Troy on Facebook
Amy Huizenga (Orlando, FL) wrote
at 2:46pm on June 24th, 2008
I’m still at Ricardo and JPs… hopefully everything works out soon! Hey, so I forwarded my mail a little late… any idea how to get my insurance stuff that got mailed to the Oviedo house?"


Oviedo house???

Is this a location not found, yet?

Oviedo is a an area of Orlando.. If you look on this map
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=110064766685078974676.000453bab210864b23da0

It's NE of Jay Blanchard Park.

Not sure if that's where Amy is talking about but there is an area called Oviedo.
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« Reply #1558 on: August 11, 2008, 02:48:24 PM »

It would take me hours to find the post I made yesterday so will put a little of what I remember from it. Please do not let Scared Monkeys turn into another RU. May none of us ever have to walk in the Anthony's shoes and have to remember everything we said and when.

From some post it appears they  are being accused of the same things some of the RU posters have accused Beth of. Lying to media, not searching for her daughter, begging for donations. So far no one has called Cindy a rancid camel toe. We have some really great researchers here. Do not let that change to a hate group. There are enough of those out there in the world.

A week and a half ago I visited the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. One of the inscriptions on the wall reads:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.


History

An early supporter of Hitler, by 1934 Niemöller had come to oppose the Nazis, and it was largely his high connections to influential and wealthy businessmen that saved him until 1937, after which he was imprisoned, eventually at Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps. He survived to be a leading voice of penance and reconciliation for the German people after World War II. His poem is well-known, frequently quoted, and is a popular model for describing the dangers of political apathy, as it often begins with specific and targeted fear and hatred which soon escalates out of control.


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Remember what you saw here today speak out against injustice, whenever and wherever you see it.

Please be careful what you say. JMHO



I have no doubt that GM and GP love Caylee and I do believe they are doing the best than can considering the circumstances.  The circumstances being that they are a completely disfunctional family and don't know which way to go.  Casey has ripped this family in two.  I think they know their granddaughter is gone forever and they are having trouble dealing with losing Casey forever.  I would hate to be in their position.  I love my daughter with all of my heart, but if I thought she had done something to my granddaughter, I would not be defending her in the media.  I wouldn't get on TV and make accusations and I of course would want her to have the best defense (because I would think my daughter insane to have let something happen to her baby).  You raise your children believing that you would stand behind them and love them no matter what they may have done.  I would have trouble standing behind my daughter if I believed in my heart she had caused the death of a child, covered it up, and then gone out partying like nothing was wrong.

How can Casey look her family in the eye and tell these outrageous lies over and over?  Well maybe she is unable to now.  Maybe she is refusing visits because she knows that they know that everything she has told them was a lie.  Maybe she can't face her brother confronting her about the phone call she never received from Caylee. 

Regarding the comment, "You don't know what my involvement is in this?"  I believe Casey was basically telling her mother that she found that comment insulting because her mother should know that Casey has no involvement.  Casey is so full of herself that she is offended when people don't believe her ridiculous lies. 

I don't know if GM and GP are hiding anything, whether they intentionally tampered with evidence or have withheld any information, but I do believe their hearts are completely broken.  I'm pretty sure that if I have a mic shoved in my face at the most stressful time in my life, I would probably say a stupid thing or two.  I remember thinking that Beth Twitty was the most remarkable woman on earth for not just screaming at the camera to have JVDS arrested for rape and murder.  I could not...absolutely could not handle the pressure of the media while trying to find a missing family member. 
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« Reply #1559 on: August 11, 2008, 02:51:04 PM »

It would take me hours to find the post I made yesterday so will put a little of what I remember from it. Please do not let Scared Monkeys turn into another RU. May none of us ever have to walk in the Anthony's shoes and have to remember everything we said and when.

From some post it appears they  are being accused of the same things some of the RU posters have accused Beth of. Lying to media, not searching for her daughter, begging for donations. So far no one has called Cindy a rancid camel toe. We have some really great researchers here. Do not let that change to a hate group. There are enough of those out there in the world.

A week and a half ago I visited the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. One of the inscriptions on the wall reads:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.


History

An early supporter of Hitler, by 1934 Niemöller had come to oppose the Nazis, and it was largely his high connections to influential and wealthy businessmen that saved him until 1937, after which he was imprisoned, eventually at Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps. He survived to be a leading voice of penance and reconciliation for the German people after World War II. His poem is well-known, frequently quoted, and is a popular model for describing the dangers of political apathy, as it often begins with specific and targeted fear and hatred which soon escalates out of control.


another inscription as you leave the museum
Remember what you saw here today speak out against injustice, whenever and wherever you see it.

Please be careful what you say. JMHO




I don't think we will ever have to worry about that.


I happily gave the Anthony a HUGE WINDOW for being forgetful

of exact dates due to the family's greif over Caylee missing.

It is when they started telling blatant outright lies under oath

that I started having a problem with it.

When Cindy washed Casey's pants, that was it.

I can safely say, under no circumstances, would I ever do such

a stupid thing. Right in the midst of a missing person investigation, Cindy

is telling people on camera, she is throwing evidence away and will

most likely get into trouble with law enforcement over it...  (rozzie franco interview)

That pretty much says it all.

Calling a person a rancid smelling camel toe is one thing...

calling them a liar because they are in fact lying and showing

MASSIVE CONTEMPT for law enforcement, is another thing altogether. imo
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