Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #3

[seemeatthebeach]

If Anthony's are asking/accepting psychic help....do you think they're finally admitting there is/never was any babysitter??  Or are they going to say the sitter is to blame for Caylee's fate??

Do you have a link that says the Anthony's asked for or accepted  Psychic help?

It was just on FOX about 5 minutes ago

Sorry to be a pest but did it specifically  say they had asked for it ? I do know the psychics come out of the woodwork for these high profile cases.

I don't know who approached who?  I know psychics were planning on searching but I don't remember if FOX said they(Anthony's) asked to meet them....hopefully FOX will have an update and clarify it.

[mrskub]

It would take me hours to find the post I made yesterday so will put a little of what I remember from it. Please do not let Scared Monkeys turn into another RU. May none of us ever have to walk in the Anthony's shoes and have to remember everything we said and when.

From some post it appears they  are being accused of the same things some of the RU posters have accused Beth of. Lying to media, not searching for her daughter, begging for donations. So far no one has called Cindy a rancid camel toe. We have some really great researchers here. Do not let that change to a hate group. There are enough of those out there in the world.

A week and a half ago I visited the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. One of the inscriptions on the wall reads:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.


History

An early supporter of Hitler, by 1934 Niemöller had come to oppose the Nazis, and it was largely his high connections to influential and wealthy businessmen that saved him until 1937, after which he was imprisoned, eventually at Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps. He survived to be a leading voice of penance and reconciliation for the German people after World War II. His poem is well-known, frequently quoted, and is a popular model for describing the dangers of political apathy, as it often begins with specific and targeted fear and hatred which soon escalates out of control.


another inscription as you leave the museum
Remember what you saw here today speak out against injustice, whenever and wherever you see it.

Please be careful what you say. JMHO

Sam, I honestly don't feel that what is being discussed or said here is anything like RU. What I see and feel is anger and disgust over the lies and  half truths that have  gotten in the way of finding this baby.

I have no doubt that every single person on this board set out with the hope and prayer of finding this child. That's quite a difference from the RU agenda.

I myself began this with a tremendous heartache for the family. I still do feel for their pain but the fact that they are being proven to have lied, repeatedly, kind of gets in the way of my sympathy. I realize they are torn between the love for their daughter and the love for their granddaughter. It's got to be hell. But you don't continuously do and say things that alienate people. At some point, the truth has to come out or there will never be closure in any sense of the word.

I'm angry, I'll admit it. I'm angry that I've never once seen any of the family out looking for Caylee. What I did see was Cindy telling everyone else to "get off their ass" and find her granddaughter. What I did see was umpteen television interviews, many in excess of 1 hour. That's an hour in my book that they could have spent knocking on doors. What I did see was lies and cover ups.
I'm sorry if I'm coming off harsh Sam. I'm tired. I've been up since 1 am this morning because I couldn't sleep over this. While Cindy goes and gets her hair done, my house is going to he!! in a handbasket because I can't do enough to find this baby.

No Sam. I promise you, this is not like RU. We are not making up lies to try to hurt people. We are frustrated and angry over the lies that ARE hurting people.

[da_wench]

If Anthony's are asking/accepting psychic help....do you think they're finally admitting there is/never was any babysitter??  Or are they going to say the sitter is to blame for Caylee's fate??

Do you have a link that says the Anthony's asked for or accepted  Psychic help?

It was just on FOX about 5 minutes ago

Sorry to be a pest but did it specifically  say they had asked for it ? I do know the psychics come out of the woodwork for these high profile cases.

I don't know who approached who?  I know psychics were planning on searching but I don't remember if FOX said they(Anthony's) asked to meet them....hopefully FOX will have an update and clarify it.

I don't know about St. John, but I sent an email to Sylvia Brown asking what her thoughts were on Natalee Holloway and the response was that she does not get involved unless asked to do so by the family.  Of course not all so-called psychics are that respectful.

[sirensong]

It would take me hours to find the post I made yesterday so will put a little of what I remember from it. Please do not let Scared Monkeys turn into another RU. May none of us ever have to walk in the Anthony's shoes and have to remember everything we said and when.

From some post it appears they  are being accused of the same things some of the RU posters have accused Beth of. Lying to media, not searching for her daughter, begging for donations. So far no one has called Cindy a rancid camel toe. We have some really great researchers here. Do not let that change to a hate group. There are enough of those out there in the world.

A week and a half ago I visited the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. One of the inscriptions on the wall reads:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.


History

An early supporter of Hitler, by 1934 Niemöller had come to oppose the Nazis, and it was largely his high connections to influential and wealthy businessmen that saved him until 1937, after which he was imprisoned, eventually at Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps. He survived to be a leading voice of penance and reconciliation for the German people after World War II. His poem is well-known, frequently quoted, and is a popular model for describing the dangers of political apathy, as it often begins with specific and targeted fear and hatred which soon escalates out of control.


another inscription as you leave the museum
Remember what you saw here today speak out against injustice, whenever and wherever you see it.

Please be careful what you say. JMHO

I don't think we will ever have to worry about that.


I happily gave the Anthony a HUGE WINDOW for being forgetful

of exact dates due to the family's greif over Caylee missing.

It is when they started telling blatant outright lies under oath

that I started having a problem with it.

When Cindy washed Casey's pants, that was it.

I can safely say, under no circumstances, would I ever do such

a stupid thing. Right in the midst of a missing person investigation, Cindy

is telling people on camera, she is throwing evidence away and will

most likely get into trouble with law enforcement over it...  (rozzie franco interview)

That pretty much says it all.

Calling a person a rancid smelling camel toe is one thing...

calling them a liar because they are in fact lying and showing

MASSIVE CONTEMPT for law enforcement, is another thing altogether. imo

Absolutely right, Carpe (as always )

[seemeatthebeach]

It would take me hours to find the post I made yesterday so will put a little of what I remember from it. Please do not let Scared Monkeys turn into another RU. May none of us ever have to walk in the Anthony's shoes and have to remember everything we said and when.

From some post it appears they  are being accused of the same things some of the RU posters have accused Beth of. Lying to media, not searching for her daughter, begging for donations. So far no one has called Cindy a rancid camel toe. We have some really great researchers here. Do not let that change to a hate group. There are enough of those out there in the world.

A week and a half ago I visited the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. One of the inscriptions on the wall reads:

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
    because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.


History

An early supporter of Hitler, by 1934 Niemöller had come to oppose the Nazis, and it was largely his high connections to influential and wealthy businessmen that saved him until 1937, after which he was imprisoned, eventually at Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps. He survived to be a leading voice of penance and reconciliation for the German people after World War II. His poem is well-known, frequently quoted, and is a popular model for describing the dangers of political apathy, as it often begins with specific and targeted fear and hatred which soon escalates out of control.


another inscription as you leave the museum
Remember what you saw here today speak out against injustice, whenever and wherever you see it.

Please be careful what you say. JMHO

Sam, I honestly don't feel that what is being discussed or said here is anything like RU. What I see and feel is anger and disgust over the lies and  half truths that have  gotten in the way of finding this baby.

I have no doubt that every single person on this board set out with the hope and prayer of finding this child. That's quite a difference from the RU agenda.

I myself began this with a tremendous heartache for the family. I still do feel for their pain but the fact that they are being proven to have lied, repeatedly, kind of gets in the way of my sympathy. I realize they are torn between the love for their daughter and the love for their granddaughter. It's got to be hell. But you don't continuously do and say things that alienate people. At some point, the truth has to come out or there will never be closure in any sense of the word.

I'm angry, I'll admit it. I'm angry that I've never once seen any of the family out looking for Caylee. What I did see was Cindy telling everyone else to "get off their ass" and find her granddaughter. What I did see was umpteen television interviews, many in excess of 1 hour. That's an hour in my book that they could have spent knocking on doors. What I did see was lies and cover ups.
I'm sorry if I'm coming off harsh Sam. I'm tired. I've been up since 1 am this morning because I couldn't sleep over this. While Cindy goes and gets her hair done, my house is going to he!! in a handbasket because I can't do enough to find this baby.

No Sam. I promise you, this is not like RU. We are not making up lies to try to hurt people. We are frustrated and angry over the lies that ARE hurting people.

mrskub,

couldn't have said it better myself

[Sam]

Thank you da_wench for understanding what I was getting at.

I know folks talk about unconditional love but I do not think I am capable of that. I have been happily married for 51 years, have 2 grown children who I love dearly but there are some things they all 3 could do that I would be unable or unwilling to forgive. Of course one would be covering up for the death of a grandchild.

I still think the Anthony's are in denial as to the death of Caylee. I keep praying they are right but I also think she is no longer with us.

Carpe, when my health was good I was a compulsive cleaner. I can see me seeing the dang dirty clothes in the car and washing them without giving it a second thought. Well actually I would have some thoughts. I would be pissed at being put in that position. I believe this is before she realized that Caylee was really and truly missing but of course I could be wrong.

[seemeatthebeach]

Update on FOX after commercial......grandfather "on the road" searching for Caylee but not alone...maybe he's got a psychic as a passenger

[IMurSTAR]

Sounds like we have a couple people in here that know how some of the technical aspects of investigations normally work. I was reading through some of the Duckett stuff and found it amazing that they where using cell phone towers to track where the mom was.

Couldn't they do that for the frantic calls on the 16th? Is it just based on what the nearest tower is? If you make a call using one tower, would it register when you where in range of a new tower. If you don't connect with anyone does the tower still register a call. Also what's the range on a tower?

[Lala'sMom]

The only thing I know at this point is Casey is obviously the person that knows for sure where Caylee is.  She isn't talking and that keeps the rumor mill turning.  The parents must have had trouble with Casey for some time.  I would also suspect Casey used her pregnancy to get back at her mother or both parents.  Cindy and George have to rely on what Casey has said.  The first 911 call was what I have seen many times when parents finally say they have had enough and they are washing their hands.  I suspect they have said that many times in the past few years about Casey. That last call was a panic call when it began to sink in that something was bad wrong.  I had a BIL that did that same thing.  The family would give up and say he has to go on his own only to recant when things went bad for him and bail him out of his troubles once again.  They kept at this until one day he died in a car accident from being so drunk he didn't know where he was or that he was driving.  His family helped him for over 30 years and still it didn't matter he continued to manipulate his own mother each time until she was reduced to tears and gave in.  She was in denial and so are these parents.  I suspect they are bearing more guilt than any of us can imagine at this moment.  I don't know why Cindy washed her clothes, but I doubt she intended to destroy evidence when she did.  I do not think she had come to a realization that Casey had been responsible for what happened to Caylee at the time. Hindsight being 20/20 I am sure the pieces fit now, but it's too late.  When I see Cindy doing something totally irrational I see her trying desperately to relieve herself of a burden of guilt and even shame that will eventually ruin this entire family.  Casey was her child and no mother ever wants to think their child could do anything evil.  The fact that they have done so little in searching for Caylee tells me they already know the truth in some sense and it's taking a long time to reach the point of admitting it.  I would be there myself most likely if I were in her shoes.

[klaasend]

According to this:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212163985.shtml

Caylee Anthoony Missing: Family Hires Psychic Detective Gale St. John
by Jack Ryan


New details have emerged in the case of missing Caylee Anthony - The family has now hired a 'psychic detective', Gale St. John, in hopes of finding Caylee.

It's also been revealed that Casey Anthony, the mother of missing Caylee and a person of interest in her disappearance, stole gas cans from her father's garage shortly before her daughter went missing.

Let's start with case facts (Scroll down for latest updates): The mother of a missing Florida toddler is a "person of interest" in a possible homicide.

Casey was formerly charged with child neglect and other charges involving alleged lies to police about her daughter's whereabouts. Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, has not been seen for more than a month. Caylee allegedly disappeared on June 9th.

Investigators have said stains, along with hair and dirt, were found in the trunk of a car belonging to the mother, Casey Anthony. There also was the odor of human decomposition, the same odor detected in her parents' backyard. Two separate cadaver dogs hit on the car, indicating the scent of death.

Investigators found nothing when they dug in the backyard of Caylee's grandmother Cindy Anthony's home, however.

Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother, told an interviewer on the "Early Show" on CBS that her daughter "has her reasons why she can't be completely honest" with police. Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, has maintained that she does not know anything about her granddaughter's disappearance and will not discuss her daughter's unwillingness to be honest with police.

The 911 tapes in which Cindy reported her granddaughter missing have been released. In the first tape, Cindy said her daughter Casey had been missing for a month and that she just found her. (Cindy recently said in court that she spoke with her daughter everyday between the time she disappeared and the time she returned.) She wanted Casey arrested and reported that she had stolen her automobile and "some money" on the 30th of June. Cindy said Casey would not tell her where Caylee is.

[seemeatthebeach]

FOX update.....searching for Caylee

psychic Gale St.John blind-driving searching for Caylee

Baez comparing Maddie McCann case to Caylee's

more after commercial

[always 1]

Thanks Klaasend.  I believe some people have psychic powers.  But I believe they are a gift from God and you cant throw money at them and believe they can come up with an answer.  Answers just happen.  JMO of course.

[seemeatthebeach]

Thanks Klaas for the article

[Destiny]

To Troy on Facebook
Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote
"at 2:40pm on June 24th, 2008
she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven’t even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. i’ll fill ya in later on.
miss ya, yo.

My interpretation of this post Casy made to Troy is this....Casy is letting try know that Amy has not yet moved into the *house* they were going to be living in together....and that Casy herself, hadn't even stayed there for the past 9 days....the DRAMA, Casy spoke of...could have been due to Amy finding out that Casy had ripped her off.

Would like to know more about that situation myself...

[mrskub]

According to this:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212163985.shtml

Caylee Anthoony Missing: Family Hires Psychic Detective Gale St. John
by Jack Ryan


New details have emerged in the case of missing Caylee Anthony - The family has now hired a 'psychic detective', Gale St. John, in hopes of finding Caylee.

It's also been revealed that Casey Anthony, the mother of missing Caylee and a person of interest in her disappearance, stole gas cans from her father's garage shortly before her daughter went missing.

Let's start with case facts (Scroll down for latest updates): The mother of a missing Florida toddler is a "person of interest" in a possible homicide.

Casey was formerly charged with child neglect and other charges involving alleged lies to police about her daughter's whereabouts. Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, has not been seen for more than a month. Caylee allegedly disappeared on June 9th.

Investigators have said stains, along with hair and dirt, were found in the trunk of a car belonging to the mother, Casey Anthony. There also was the odor of human decomposition, the same odor detected in her parents' backyard. Two separate cadaver dogs hit on the car, indicating the scent of death.

Investigators found nothing when they dug in the backyard of Caylee's grandmother Cindy Anthony's home, however.

Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother, told an interviewer on the "Early Show" on CBS that her daughter "has her reasons why she can't be completely honest" with police. Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, has maintained that she does not know anything about her granddaughter's disappearance and will not discuss her daughter's unwillingness to be honest with police.

The 911 tapes in which Cindy reported her granddaughter missing have been released. In the first tape, Cindy said her daughter Casey had been missing for a month and that she just found her. (Cindy recently said in court that she spoke with her daughter everyday between the time she disappeared and the time she returned.) She wanted Casey arrested and reported that she had stolen her automobile and "some money" on the 30th of June. Cindy said Casey would not tell her where Caylee is.

They're asking for donations here

http://www.briansprediction.com/news.htm

[da_wench]

Sounds like we have a couple people in here that know how some of the technical aspects of investigations normally work. I was reading through some of the Duckett stuff and found it amazing that they where using cell phone towers to track where the mom was.

Couldn't they do that for the frantic calls on the 16th? Is it just based on what the nearest tower is? If you make a call using one tower, would it register when you where in range of a new tower. If you don't connect with anyone does the tower still register a call. Also what's the range on a tower?

Of course this can be done.  In fact it probably has already been done.  Remember, LE knows a lot more than they are leaking to the media.  Okay, I'm writing this with more hope than actual trust, but...

[klaasend]

According to this:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212163985.shtml

Caylee Anthoony Missing: Family Hires Psychic Detective Gale St. John
by Jack Ryan


New details have emerged in the case of missing Caylee Anthony - The family has now hired a 'psychic detective', Gale St. John, in hopes of finding Caylee.

It's also been revealed that Casey Anthony, the mother of missing Caylee and a person of interest in her disappearance, stole gas cans from her father's garage shortly before her daughter went missing.

Let's start with case facts (Scroll down for latest updates): The mother of a missing Florida toddler is a "person of interest" in a possible homicide.

Casey was formerly charged with child neglect and other charges involving alleged lies to police about her daughter's whereabouts. Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, has not been seen for more than a month. Caylee allegedly disappeared on June 9th.

Investigators have said stains, along with hair and dirt, were found in the trunk of a car belonging to the mother, Casey Anthony. There also was the odor of human decomposition, the same odor detected in her parents' backyard. Two separate cadaver dogs hit on the car, indicating the scent of death.

Investigators found nothing when they dug in the backyard of Caylee's grandmother Cindy Anthony's home, however.

Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother, told an interviewer on the "Early Show" on CBS that her daughter "has her reasons why she can't be completely honest" with police. Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, has maintained that she does not know anything about her granddaughter's disappearance and will not discuss her daughter's unwillingness to be honest with police.

The 911 tapes in which Cindy reported her granddaughter missing have been released. In the first tape, Cindy said her daughter Casey had been missing for a month and that she just found her. (Cindy recently said in court that she spoke with her daughter everyday between the time she disappeared and the time she returned.) She wanted Casey arrested and reported that she had stolen her automobile and "some money" on the 30th of June. Cindy said Casey would not tell her where Caylee is.

They're asking for donations here

http://www.briansprediction.com/news.htm

Donations here too:

http://www.psychicgale.com/

I lost all respect for Brians Predictions with I saw that he backdated and altered a dream to fit actual news.  IMO he is a fraud.

[Puzzler]

The Anthony's have probably experienced enough manipulation by Casey that they know they won't get anything out of Casey if they badger her....Casey will just dig her heels in deeper. 

The brother, Lee, was the one who got Casey to admit that Caylee was even missing.  Up until that time, Casey kept telling Cindy that Caylee was fine and was with the baby sitter.

The Anthony's know by now that something bad has happened to Caylee.  If they hired a psychic, that just shows how utterly desparate the Anthony's are and that they have no other idea where she is.

I don't think anyone has an idea where she is...that's why no one's been searching for her.  Even the police don't have a clue.

[Destiny]

According to this:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212163985.shtml

Caylee Anthoony Missing: Family Hires Psychic Detective Gale St. John
by Jack Ryan


New details have emerged in the case of missing Caylee Anthony - The family has now hired a 'psychic detective', Gale St. John, in hopes of finding Caylee.

It's also been revealed that Casey Anthony, the mother of missing Caylee and a person of interest in her disappearance, stole gas cans from her father's garage shortly before her daughter went missing.

Let's start with case facts (Scroll down for latest updates): The mother of a missing Florida toddler is a "person of interest" in a possible homicide.

Casey was formerly charged with child neglect and other charges involving alleged lies to police about her daughter's whereabouts. Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, has not been seen for more than a month. Caylee allegedly disappeared on June 9th.

Investigators have said stains, along with hair and dirt, were found in the trunk of a car belonging to the mother, Casey Anthony. There also was the odor of human decomposition, the same odor detected in her parents' backyard. Two separate cadaver dogs hit on the car, indicating the scent of death.

Investigators found nothing when they dug in the backyard of Caylee's grandmother Cindy Anthony's home, however.

Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother, told an interviewer on the "Early Show" on CBS that her daughter "has her reasons why she can't be completely honest" with police. Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, has maintained that she does not know anything about her granddaughter's disappearance and will not discuss her daughter's unwillingness to be honest with police.

The 911 tapes in which Cindy reported her granddaughter missing have been released. In the first tape, Cindy said her daughter Casey had been missing for a month and that she just found her. (Cindy recently said in court that she spoke with her daughter everyday between the time she disappeared and the time she returned.) She wanted Casey arrested and reported that she had stolen her automobile and "some money" on the 30th of June. Cindy said Casey would not tell her where Caylee is.

They're asking for donations here

http://www.briansprediction.com/news.htm

Donations here too:

http://www.psychicgale.com/

I lost all respect for Brians Predictions with I saw that he backdated and altered a dream to fit actual news.  IMO he is a fraud.

Agree 100% Klaas.....big ole' stinky FRAUD he is....

[IMurSTAR]

To Troy on Facebook
Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote
"at 2:40pm on June 24th, 2008
she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven’t even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. i’ll fill ya in later on.
miss ya, yo.

My interpretation of this post Casy made to Troy is this....Casy is letting try know that Amy has not yet moved into the *house* they were going to be living in together....and that Casy herself, hadn't even stayed there for the past 9 days....the DRAMA, Casy spoke of...could have been due to Amy finding out that Casy had ripped her off.

Would like to know more about that situation myself...

I always assumed the house they where speaking of was the Glenwood home that Amy, Rick, and JP all shared. But if you believe this post:
Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote
at 7:33am on June 4th, 2008
oh, the times we will have!
i can't wait for us to become roomies in another week! seriously...by the end of next week, it will be just us girls. i can't believe it!

It would mean that Casey and (Amy? Is that who this post is to?) planned to get a place of their own. If they plan to be in a place by the end of next week then a place had to have been purchased right? Did the police ever find a house/apt in Casey, Amy or Zenaida's name? Could that be where little one is? What better way to hid a body and know where it is then rent an apartment with all the money you stole. 45K could buy you quite a lot of time.