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« Reply #400 on: August 09, 2008, 02:30:07 PM »

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« Reply #401 on: August 09, 2008, 02:31:39 PM »

George Anthony was a homicide detective in Trubmull county Oh.
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« Reply #402 on: August 09, 2008, 02:34:56 PM »

George Anthony was a homicide detective in Trubmull county Oh.

correction..Trumbull County Ohio
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« Reply #403 on: August 09, 2008, 02:35:45 PM »

Does anyone have the FULL bond hearing video with Cindy,George and Lee testifying(if there is one)to post or can you point me in the right direction?
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I've been trying to find transcripts or video of it.
This is the most I've found yet. It looks like a reporter giving updates during the hearing.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/caylee_anthony/index.html

Court officials opened the courtroom at 1:30 p.m. More than 20 reporters filled the benches along with a dozen other onlookers, including some from the State Attorney's Office.
Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland just entered. We're waiting for the defense attorney, Jose Baez, who is not here. Casey Anthony is sitting along at the defense table. Her family is not here.

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Baez is here. It's starting. He's looking for his first witness but doesn't see the person -- one of Casey Anthony's parents. Baez says he just saw them downstairs.
He tells the judge he has three witnesses.

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Cindy Anthony takes the stand. She starts to cry because she has not seen Casey since she was arrested. Casey Anthony also looks as if she is crying.
Cindy Anthony has gained composure and is answering questions.
When she confronted Casey about Caylee, it was around 7 p.m. and says Caylee was with babysitter. She had been with Casey for an hour and half before she tried to alert police.
She called Orange County Sheriff's Office around 9 or 10 p.m. that night. Casey Anthony heard her call deputies. Casey did not attempt to leave the house.
Deputies seperated mother and daughter when they arrived.

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Cindy says deputies took Casey shortly after midnight Tuesday. "This is the firs time I have physically seen her," she said.
Casey did call the house that night  and requested a phone number from her parents.
Cindy describes her daughter as her best friend -- after her husband. She spoke to her daughter almost everyday before this started. She had no reason to doubt Caylee's whereabouts.
Cindy believes either she or Casey's brother can help Casey get to the "bottom of the truth."
And Casey should be released because "she had not committed a crime," Cindy testified.
"Casey has not done anything. There is no evidence she has done anything," Cindy said, adding she would pay for the bond.


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Prosecutor Linda Drane-Burdick is questioning Cindy Anthony now. She asking about how much equity the Anthonys have in the house to help post bond.
Cindy says she will find a way to pay the bond. She hasn't thought about other assets the family has to get her daughter out of jail.

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Drane-Burdick questions mom about whether the family has defaulted on any financial obligations.
Defense objected but judge allowed prosecutor to continue.
"It's painful it's relevant," the judge said.

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The prosecutor questions mom about where Casey works. Cindy says an event planner at Universal Studios and Hard Rock Cafe -- possibly as a subcontractor.
Cindy replies that she has learned from the cops that Casey did not work anywhere.
Casey told mom she worked as an event coordinator for about a year but, Cindy has never seen a pay stub. Cindy does give her money at times. Parents buy groceries and stuff. Casey doesn't have to do anything but provide spending money for herself, Cindy says.

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Prior to Caylee's birth, Casey did work at Kodak and then Color Vision at Universal Studios, Cindy told the prosecutor.
She knows that because family did not pay for Caylee's birth.
Mom keeps saying she has not slept or eaten and keeps getting dates wrong.

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Cindy tells the prosecutor she thought the last time she saw Caylee was on June 9 but now she says it was June 15.
"Casey and Caylee were living with you at that time, correct?" the prosecutor asks.
"Yes," Cindy says.
Both in Casey's bedroom at the Anthony's house. After that, they did not stay at the house.

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People will be able to watch her or "Casey-sit" if Casey is released from jail, Cindy says.
Casey is sitting at the defense table listening. At times, she is wiping tears with a tissue.

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Casey's dad, George Anthony, takes the stand. His voice cracks. Casey starts crying more.
He says he is willing to do anything to find Caylee. He has cooperated with law enforcement, George says. Baez - Casey's attorney - is asking about the night deputies were called.

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George talks about how Casey and her brother have a close relationship. She may tell him things that she would not tell her parents, George says.
And, George says, he can ensure that his daughter would show up for any court hearings.
Lawyers are done questioning Casey's dad.
Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, is on the stand now.

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Lee tried to keep his mom from calling police because Casey appeared to know where Caylee was located. He thought he could talk to Casey and the family could get Caylee in the morning, Lee explainsed.
Baez asked if Lee thinks he can get Casey to tell him things that will help in the search for Casey.
"I have no doubt in my mind," Lee said.

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On the July 15, Casey maintained before Cindy called authorities that she knew where Caylee was and she would take family there in the morning, Lee told the prosecutor.
Before deputies arrived, Lee said he pleaded with sister and that's when Casey told him ---- "I have not seen my daughter in 31 days."
At the defense table, Casey is crying again.


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Detective Yuri Melich is on the stand now.
The prosecutor is asking about Casey's car - a white Pontiac- that was registered to Casey's father.
It was recovered at Amscot - a check-cashing business - on Goldenrod and Colonial.
Crime scene investigators have the car now. There was talk about a smell in the car, and that's why cops seized the car.  The smell was decomposition, Melich said. They are trying to find out why the car smelled that way.

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Here's what cops have found in the trunk of Casey's car so far:
Hair that appears to match Caylee.
Dirt.
Questionable stains that show up under a black light.
The Anthonys say trash was left in the car. On Thursday, investigators got the trash from George Anthony and are still investigating whether it's the source of the "decomposing" smell. It has not been determined yet.
The detective testified that he believes "the two smells are not the same."

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Scene in the courtroom:
Casey's face has changed. She is no longer crying. Her face is blank.
Casey's parents are crying as they listen to the detective.

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So far, the detectives have not found anyone who has seen the child since June 15. Cindy Anthony was the last person who could confirm seeing Caylee, Melich testified.

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Cops have spoken to someone who says he heard Caylee in the background of a phone call on June 24 or June 25, Melich said. The caller was on the phone with Casey when he heard Caylee. At one point during the call, Casey told Caylee to "get off the table," Melich said.

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Casey's attorney asked the detective if Casey ever requested an attorney before her arrest.
She never did, Melich said.
Baez also asked if the detective has had any breaks during the investigation or has been on vacation. Melich says yes -- but prosecutor objects to questioning. Baez then moves on to another subject.

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Deputy Jason Forgey is on the stand now. He is a dog handler. His dog, Gerus, is trained as a cadaver dog.
On July 17, Garus was used to search Casey's car for the smell of human remains. He alerted to the vehicle -- he jumped into the trunk.
The dog alerted to the odor of human decomposition in the trunk.

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Gerus and another cadaver dog both alerted to smells of human decomposition in the Anthony's backyard, Forgey testifed. That's one reason why cops began digging in backyard.
But no body has been found yet -- Baez points out.

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Both the state and defense are done with witnesses.
The legal arguments are beginning.

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Baez -- He says the judge needs to look at the law. The laws says she is entitled to a bond. She has no criminal history and it's the state's burden to prove she would not show up for court or that she has physically harmed her child. There is circumstantial evidence that a homicide may have occurred. But cops don't feel confident enough to charge her...They should not try to use the court as punishment and figure maybe she'll crack under the pressure. The court needs to look at the crimes she is charged with and allow her to have a bond. She could hold the key to finding her daughter.
It seems the opposite is true. It's saying if she lets me out

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Drane-Burdick: The prosecutor is asking to hold her on a bond that is high enough that it would ensure her appearance before the court.
Cops would prefer her to remain in jail on no bond.
The state is requesting more than $500,000 and to restrict her ability from "galavanting about the community" and remain on some type of confinement.
Baez: He is requesting $10,000 so the family can afford the bond.

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Judge Stan Strickland set bond at $500,000 plus he ordered her to have a GPS devise attached.
"I don't think I can please anyone," the judge said.
Casey is crying as deputies escort her out of the courtroom.

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« Reply #404 on: August 09, 2008, 02:36:01 PM »

Is it mean to think about having a little cake and gifts in the home and bringing Casey back there hoping maybe she would see them and crack????
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« Reply #405 on: August 09, 2008, 02:38:53 PM »

"The first 24, 48 hours I had the 'what if, what if, what if.' I also went over all of it with the sheriff's department. Sgt. Allen can tell you that I sat down with him and talked about different things. He made me feel a lot better when they examined the pool, around the pool area, because, to me, that would be the riskiest place that something could have happened," Cindy Anthony said Friday afternoon in response to the theory.



That would be the riskiest place THAT SOMETHING COULD HAVE HAPPENED

around the pool at her house?


You mean to tell me, Cindy thinks Zenaida & the evil gang of kidnapperS

possess Caylee...but on the other hand, Caylee drowned in the pool

at her home?


Cindy's brain must looked like a scrambled egg.
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« Reply #406 on: August 09, 2008, 02:43:11 PM »

Is it mean to think about having a little cake and gifts in the home and bringing Casey back there hoping maybe she would see them and crack????

I love ya, A-1. You always hold out hope for the best in people!


However, consider this...


Casey occasionally gets to see news reports of her family having nervous

breakdowns live on nationwide television news reports. If that couldn't break

a person down to tell the truth, I just don't see it happening with cakes, cards

and birthday gifts. imho
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« Reply #407 on: August 09, 2008, 02:43:32 PM »

The time between when Geo. says he left for work around 2:30 Caylee and Casey leaving  the residence at 12:50 p.m and the flurry of calls @ 3p.m. mean that if something bad happened @ fam. residence requires Casey and Caylee returning after 2:30 - leaving a period of just a few minutes.
Cindy saw and heard Casey and Caylee on 15th June -they slept in same bedroom.
What if they did not leave the house as Geo described? - and how would that change things?  What if Geo left for work earlier than he stated and Casey and Caylee were still there?  How would that change things?

The only reason I consider drowning as a possibility is Cindy's interview with Greta last week.  What did she put that out there for?  First mention.  Did Cindy know by this time what happened and knowing if it did forensics would show that when Caylee found and Cindy was setting up a hoped for defence for Casey?

What non verbal communications, if any occurred between Casey and her family members when they visited Casey in jail?  What messages did Casey through Baez pass on to her family.  We know Cindy and Geo. met with him.
Perhaps Casey's "feelings" about Caylee being safe and close were a  specific message to family and not at all what we thought when we first heard the video.  Maybe safe = well hidden maybe close means that she is close to some area and not close to the fam. home.
and maybe Cindy got it, hence her conversation to Greta re pool ladder, Caylee's cleverness and ability to remove knobs etc. in an effort to assist
Casey and lesson the original deed. 
 

 
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« Reply #408 on: August 09, 2008, 02:46:56 PM »

Thank you Carpe, luv you too..
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« Reply #409 on: August 09, 2008, 02:48:46 PM »

i just viewed an updated bieds eye view of the anthony home, there are now alot of brand new homes on Florence Harbor drive, behind the anthony home....so much for my theory of secluded wooded area....darn those old google earth photos...i had trouble posting the shot i looked at but theres a house for sale on that road...5341 florence harbor drive....i googled it and the reality company had an option to map it with a birds eye view....the anthony home is behind it...you can see a round blue swimming pool in the anthonys backyard that is not there in the google earth pic....
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« Reply #410 on: August 09, 2008, 02:50:25 PM »

Karma, here you go dear

Cindy
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US

George
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7038761&version=1&locale=EN-US

Lee
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7038932&version=1&locale=EN-US
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« Reply #411 on: August 09, 2008, 02:53:44 PM »

The Anthonys say trash was left in the car. On Thursday, investigators got the trash from George Anthony and are still investigating whether it's the source of the "decomposing" smell. It has not been determined yet.
The detective testified that he believes "the two smells are not the same."



Perhaps the trash in the trunk, is a big clue.


Maybe she disposed of her like trash so as not to draw too much attention.


A dump, an apartment dumpster, the dumpster behind a strip mall or grocery store?
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« Reply #412 on: August 09, 2008, 02:58:14 PM »

an apartment dumpster? that sounds like something a panicing child killer would do....
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« Reply #413 on: August 09, 2008, 02:58:52 PM »

The Anthonys say trash was left in the car. On Thursday, investigators got the trash from George Anthony and are still investigating whether it's the source of the "decomposing" smell. It has not been determined yet.
The detective testified that he believes "the two smells are not the same."



Perhaps the trash in the trunk, is a big clue.


Maybe she disposed of her like trash so as not to draw too much attention.


A dump, an apartment dumpster, the dumpster behind a strip mall or grocery store?


That's what I've been saying Carpe. She knows the dumpsters are empty now and no one will ever find a body. No body-No crime mentality.
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« Reply #414 on: August 09, 2008, 03:00:12 PM »

casey probably got the nannys name from the same dumpster
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« Reply #415 on: August 09, 2008, 03:02:04 PM »

links to bond hearings, you may need to copy and paste.  not tech savvy.




Bond Hearing video links

Cindy Anthony Testimony

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US

George Anthony Testimony

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7038761&version=1&locale=EN-US

Casey's brother, Lee Anthony's testimony

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7038932&version=1&locale=EN-US

Orange County Lead Detective Yuri Melich

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039465&version=1&locale=EN-US

Bond decision news report

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039177&version=1&locale=EN-US

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« Reply #416 on: August 09, 2008, 03:02:53 PM »

Or maybe... a location where you could pull all of these things together...

trash disposal

the smell of smoke

dirt
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« Reply #417 on: August 09, 2008, 03:03:13 PM »

oh i'm late, sorry for takin the space.
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« Reply #418 on: August 09, 2008, 03:04:47 PM »

The Anthonys say trash was left in the car. On Thursday, investigators got the trash from George Anthony and are still investigating whether it's the source of the "decomposing" smell. It has not been determined yet.
The detective testified that he believes "the two smells are not the same."



Perhaps the trash in the trunk, is a big clue.


Maybe she disposed of her like trash so as not to draw too much attention.


A dump, an apartment dumpster, the dumpster behind a strip mall or grocery store?


That's what I've been saying Carpe. She knows the dumpsters are empty now and no one will ever find a body. No body-No crime mentality.


I hope the police have put out a BOLO at the county main dump locations...


both in Orange and Seminole.
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« Reply #419 on: August 09, 2008, 03:07:12 PM »

Or maybe... a location where you could pull all of these things together...

trash disposal

the smell of smoke

dirt
are there any public dumps?
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