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« Reply #420 on: August 09, 2008, 03:11:12 PM »

The dumpster...  Ya that makes sence... I really think however she desposed of the body it was hands off.

So far this is my list:
1) Waterway
2) Forest
3) Was there Cement in the contruction area behind the house?
4) Dumpster
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« Reply #421 on: August 09, 2008, 03:11:47 PM »

I want to know more about the BACKPACKS...

It is very odd for adult and child to go out of the house

both wearing them...


I mean, you don't just skip off to the mall wearing them.

To me, it suggest some sort of special outing.
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« Reply #422 on: August 09, 2008, 03:14:07 PM »

i think everyone will agree that casey isnt very smart, rather, she doesnt think things through very well, in her shoes, a dumpster seems ideal for getting rid of a body...then all she has to do is wait for the city to take the garbage to the dump...if you ask me, thats what she was waiting for....
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« Reply #423 on: August 09, 2008, 03:15:50 PM »

i think everyone will agree that casey isnt very smart, rather, she doesnt think things through very well, in her shoes, a dumpster seems ideal for getting rid of a body...then all she has to do is wait for the city to take the garbage to the dump...if you ask me, thats what she was waiting for....


I wonder if she would be so stupid to do it where she abandoned the car?
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« Reply #424 on: August 09, 2008, 03:17:54 PM »

Hi guys Im new here and have some questions...Maybe I missed this but in Greta's interview with George and Cindy she said a lot about the pool ladder and kept repeating over and over they were concerned about "slipage"And how they were always making sure no one would slip...

If considering the pool theory that Casey and Caylee were swimming.Maybe Casey has Caylee climb out first, only Caylee slips and falls the wrong way cracking her neck or skull..

Cindy was also giving that one interview where she says she wishes Caylee's picture "would just get engrained in peoples s........brain" like something went ding! dont use SKULL dont! and she had to seach for another word finally coming up with brain..

I know when I talk that fast and frustrated and I know a secret, I still have that trigger word which I know NOT TO SAY.So I don't reveal to much..

AndI do know head injuries bleed a lot but Casey is a nurse and cops daughter.She has to know how to clean up blood.

One more thing were pavers replaced??
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« Reply #425 on: August 09, 2008, 03:18:05 PM »

i think everyone will agree that casey isnt very smart, rather, she doesnt think things through very well, in her shoes, a dumpster seems ideal for getting rid of a body...then all she has to do is wait for the city to take the garbage to the dump...if you ask me, thats what she was waiting for....


I wonder if she would be so stupid to do it where she abandoned the car?


If she did that, I bet you cops have that dump covered. It is a known location.
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« Reply #426 on: August 09, 2008, 03:18:35 PM »

the constructio area behing the house is no longer a construction area...there are houses there now...5341 florence harbor drive orlando homes for sale....google it and youll be taken to a realty companys website....click map it and then birds eye view, for an updated photo of anthony home and surroundings...
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« Reply #427 on: August 09, 2008, 03:26:21 PM »

Also who is Mallory? Is she Lee's girlfriend and maybe this is who he lives with. I have not heard to much about her other than in the beginning when Casey says..

"Well, get it from Lee," Casey Anthony said. "I know Lee is at the house. I saw Mallory's car was out front. It was just on the news. They were just live outside the house."
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« Reply #428 on: August 09, 2008, 03:26:38 PM »

whats the name of those nanny apartments again?
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« Reply #429 on: August 09, 2008, 03:27:32 PM »

i think everyone will agree that casey isnt very smart, rather, she doesnt think things through very well, in her shoes, a dumpster seems ideal for getting rid of a body...then all she has to do is wait for the city to take the garbage to the dump...if you ask me, thats what she was waiting for....


I wonder if she would be so stupid to do it where she abandoned the car?

That's exactly where I thought she did it. Put the baby in the trunk with another bag holding just a couple of things (pizza and soap bottle). Drive to Amscot. Put the baby in the dumpster. It stinks to high heaven in there anyway so no one will notice the smell. Leave the car there with purse on seat and call Tony for a ride.

Most likely the mall contracts with someone to privately empty the dumpster. Can we find out who that is? Also, when the dumpster was emptied in relation to the 16th and where they take this refuse?
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« Reply #430 on: August 09, 2008, 03:34:14 PM »

Does anyone have the FULL bond hearing video with Cindy,George and Lee testifying(if there is one)to post or can you point me in the right direction?
Karma,
I've been trying to find transcripts or video of it.
This is the most I've found yet. It looks like a reporter giving updates during the hearing.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/caylee_anthony/index.html

Court officials opened the courtroom at 1:30 p.m. More than 20 reporters filled the benches along with a dozen other onlookers, including some from the State Attorney's Office.
Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland just entered. We're waiting for the defense attorney, Jose Baez, who is not here. Casey Anthony is sitting along at the defense table. Her family is not here.

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Baez is here. It's starting. He's looking for his first witness but doesn't see the person -- one of Casey Anthony's parents. Baez says he just saw them downstairs.
He tells the judge he has three witnesses.

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Cindy Anthony takes the stand. She starts to cry because she has not seen Casey since she was arrested. Casey Anthony also looks as if she is crying.
Cindy Anthony has gained composure and is answering questions.
When she confronted Casey about Caylee, it was around 7 p.m. and says Caylee was with babysitter. She had been with Casey for an hour and half before she tried to alert police.
She called Orange County Sheriff's Office around 9 or 10 p.m. that night. Casey Anthony heard her call deputies. Casey did not attempt to leave the house.
Deputies seperated mother and daughter when they arrived.

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Cindy says deputies took Casey shortly after midnight Tuesday. "This is the firs time I have physically seen her," she said.
Casey did call the house that night  and requested a phone number from her parents.
Cindy describes her daughter as her best friend -- after her husband. She spoke to her daughter almost everyday before this started. She had no reason to doubt Caylee's whereabouts.
Cindy believes either she or Casey's brother can help Casey get to the "bottom of the truth."
And Casey should be released because "she had not committed a crime," Cindy testified.
"Casey has not done anything. There is no evidence she has done anything," Cindy said, adding she would pay for the bond.


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Prosecutor Linda Drane-Burdick is questioning Cindy Anthony now. She asking about how much equity the Anthonys have in the house to help post bond.
Cindy says she will find a way to pay the bond. She hasn't thought about other assets the family has to get her daughter out of jail.

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Drane-Burdick questions mom about whether the family has defaulted on any financial obligations.
Defense objected but judge allowed prosecutor to continue.
"It's painful it's relevant," the judge said.

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The prosecutor questions mom about where Casey works. Cindy says an event planner at Universal Studios and Hard Rock Cafe -- possibly as a subcontractor.
Cindy replies that she has learned from the cops that Casey did not work anywhere.
Casey told mom she worked as an event coordinator for about a year but, Cindy has never seen a pay stub. Cindy does give her money at times. Parents buy groceries and stuff. Casey doesn't have to do anything but provide spending money for herself, Cindy says.

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Prior to Caylee's birth, Casey did work at Kodak and then Color Vision at Universal Studios, Cindy told the prosecutor.
She knows that because family did not pay for Caylee's birth.
Mom keeps saying she has not slept or eaten and keeps getting dates wrong.

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Cindy tells the prosecutor she thought the last time she saw Caylee was on June 9 but now she says it was June 15.
"Casey and Caylee were living with you at that time, correct?" the prosecutor asks.
"Yes," Cindy says.
Both in Casey's bedroom at the Anthony's house. After that, they did not stay at the house.

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People will be able to watch her or "Casey-sit" if Casey is released from jail, Cindy says.
Casey is sitting at the defense table listening. At times, she is wiping tears with a tissue.

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Casey's dad, George Anthony, takes the stand. His voice cracks. Casey starts crying more.
He says he is willing to do anything to find Caylee. He has cooperated with law enforcement, George says. Baez - Casey's attorney - is asking about the night deputies were called.

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George talks about how Casey and her brother have a close relationship. She may tell him things that she would not tell her parents, George says.
And, George says, he can ensure that his daughter would show up for any court hearings.
Lawyers are done questioning Casey's dad.
Casey's brother, Lee Anthony, is on the stand now.

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Lee tried to keep his mom from calling police because Casey appeared to know where Caylee was located. He thought he could talk to Casey and the family could get Caylee in the morning, Lee explainsed.
Baez asked if Lee thinks he can get Casey to tell him things that will help in the search for Casey.
"I have no doubt in my mind," Lee said.

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On the July 15, Casey maintained before Cindy called authorities that she knew where Caylee was and she would take family there in the morning, Lee told the prosecutor.
Before deputies arrived, Lee said he pleaded with sister and that's when Casey told him ---- "I have not seen my daughter in 31 days."
At the defense table, Casey is crying again.


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Detective Yuri Melich is on the stand now.
The prosecutor is asking about Casey's car - a white Pontiac- that was registered to Casey's father.
It was recovered at Amscot - a check-cashing business - on Goldenrod and Colonial.
Crime scene investigators have the car now. There was talk about a smell in the car, and that's why cops seized the car.  The smell was decomposition, Melich said. They are trying to find out why the car smelled that way.

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Here's what cops have found in the trunk of Casey's car so far:
Hair that appears to match Caylee.
Dirt.
Questionable stains that show up under a black light.
The Anthonys say trash was left in the car. On Thursday, investigators got the trash from George Anthony and are still investigating whether it's the source of the "decomposing" smell. It has not been determined yet.
The detective testified that he believes "the two smells are not the same."

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Scene in the courtroom:
Casey's face has changed. She is no longer crying. Her face is blank.
Casey's parents are crying as they listen to the detective.

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So far, the detectives have not found anyone who has seen the child since June 15. Cindy Anthony was the last person who could confirm seeing Caylee, Melich testified.

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Cops have spoken to someone who says he heard Caylee in the background of a phone call on June 24 or June 25, Melich said. The caller was on the phone with Casey when he heard Caylee. At one point during the call, Casey told Caylee to "get off the table," Melich said.

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Casey's attorney asked the detective if Casey ever requested an attorney before her arrest.
She never did, Melich said.
Baez also asked if the detective has had any breaks during the investigation or has been on vacation. Melich says yes -- but prosecutor objects to questioning. Baez then moves on to another subject.

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Deputy Jason Forgey is on the stand now. He is a dog handler. His dog, Gerus, is trained as a cadaver dog.
On July 17, Garus was used to search Casey's car for the smell of human remains. He alerted to the vehicle -- he jumped into the trunk.
The dog alerted to the odor of human decomposition in the trunk.

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Gerus and another cadaver dog both alerted to smells of human decomposition in the Anthony's backyard, Forgey testifed. That's one reason why cops began digging in backyard.
But no body has been found yet -- Baez points out.

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Both the state and defense are done with witnesses.
The legal arguments are beginning.

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Baez -- He says the judge needs to look at the law. The laws says she is entitled to a bond. She has no criminal history and it's the state's burden to prove she would not show up for court or that she has physically harmed her child. There is circumstantial evidence that a homicide may have occurred. But cops don't feel confident enough to charge her...They should not try to use the court as punishment and figure maybe she'll crack under the pressure. The court needs to look at the crimes she is charged with and allow her to have a bond. She could hold the key to finding her daughter.
It seems the opposite is true. It's saying if she lets me out

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Drane-Burdick: The prosecutor is asking to hold her on a bond that is high enough that it would ensure her appearance before the court.
Cops would prefer her to remain in jail on no bond.
The state is requesting more than $500,000 and to restrict her ability from "galavanting about the community" and remain on some type of confinement.
Baez: He is requesting $10,000 so the family can afford the bond.

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Judge Stan Strickland set bond at $500,000 plus he ordered her to have a GPS devise attached.
"I don't think I can please anyone," the judge said.
Casey is crying as deputies escort her out of the courtroom.

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Thank you so much NM.Maybe this should be posted in the vieo/transcripts thread.
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« Reply #431 on: August 09, 2008, 03:36:05 PM »

i think everyone will agree that casey isnt very smart, rather, she doesnt think things through very well, in her shoes, a dumpster seems ideal for getting rid of a body...then all she has to do is wait for the city to take the garbage to the dump...if you ask me, thats what she was waiting for....


I wonder if she would be so stupid to do it where she abandoned the car?

That's exactly where I thought she did it. Put the baby in the trunk with another bag holding just a couple of things (pizza and soap bottle). Drive to Amscot. Put the baby in the dumpster. It stinks to high heaven in there anyway so no one will notice the smell. Leave the car there with purse on seat and call Tony for a ride.

Most likely the mall contracts with someone to privately empty the dumpster. Can we find out who that is? Also, when the dumpster was emptied in relation to the 16th and where they take this refuse?


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« Reply #432 on: August 09, 2008, 03:40:53 PM »

Hi guys Im new here and have some questions...Maybe I missed this but in Greta's interview with George and Cindy she said a lot about the pool ladder and kept repeating over and over they were concerned about "slipage"And how they were always making sure no one would slip...

If considering the pool theory that Casey and Caylee were swimming.Maybe Casey has Caylee climb out first, only Caylee slips and falls the wrong way cracking her neck or skull..

Cindy was also giving that one interview where she says she wishes Caylee's picture "would just get engrained in peoples s........brain" like something went ding! dont use SKULL dont! and she had to seach for another word finally coming up with brain..

I know when I talk that fast and frustrated and I know a secret, I still have that trigger word which I know NOT TO SAY.So I don't reveal to much..

AndI do know head injuries bleed a lot but Casey is a nurse and cops daughter.She has to know how to clean up blood.

One more thing were pavers replaced??

Hi misitx5 and welcome to the cage!

That is an interesting scenario. I can't imagine how one person could fully help a child out of an out-of-ground pool w/ that little ladder-thing.  Never thought of it before your post. Would you get on the ladder first with the child in the pool or would you put the child on the ladder than get on the ladder yourself and hope you don't knock the child down the ladder?

I think they did have pavers put down, possibly replaced. It was during that time when reports said they had concret poured in the back yard but invetigators said they would have noticed new concret. Sorry I don't know more.
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« Reply #433 on: August 09, 2008, 03:42:26 PM »

i think everyone will agree that casey isnt very smart, rather, she doesnt think things through very well, in her shoes, a dumpster seems ideal for getting rid of a body...then all she has to do is wait for the city to take the garbage to the dump...if you ask me, thats what she was waiting for....


I wonder if she would be so stupid to do it where she abandoned the car?

That's exactly where I thought she did it. Put the baby in the trunk with another bag holding just a couple of things (pizza and soap bottle). Drive to Amscot. Put the baby in the dumpster. It stinks to high heaven in there anyway so no one will notice the smell. Leave the car there with purse on seat and call Tony for a ride.

Most likely the mall contracts with someone to privately empty the dumpster. Can we find out who that is? Also, when the dumpster was emptied in relation to the 16th and where they take this refuse?




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« Reply #434 on: August 09, 2008, 03:44:02 PM »

casey probably got the nannys name from the same dumpster


Don't know where the Zenaida lives that filled out the apt rental card, but I would check where ever her trash is, if she uses a dumpster, even if trash is gone, decomposition can still be hit on by cadaver dogs
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« Reply #435 on: August 09, 2008, 03:44:09 PM »

the constructio area behing the house is no longer a construction area...there are houses there now...5341 florence harbor drive orlando homes for sale....google it and youll be taken to a realty companys website....click map it and then birds eye view, for an updated photo of anthony home and surroundings...

Hi April,
That is really great work how you found that. 
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« Reply #436 on: August 09, 2008, 03:46:12 PM »

NM, you have one hand on the baby, start down the ladder, put in baby on the rung in front of you, then you both go down the ladder at the same time.
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« Reply #437 on: August 09, 2008, 03:47:21 PM »

whats the name of those nanny apartments again?

Sawgrass apts (apt#210)

Karma, I will copy the bond hearing updates there .
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« Reply #438 on: August 09, 2008, 03:49:52 PM »

NM, you have one hand on the baby, start down the ladder, put in baby on the rung in front of you, then you both go down the ladder at the same time.
Thanks for the info Always, I hope I never need to do that.

PS thanks for the news on Bernie Mac, it took my breath away. how sad.
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« Reply #439 on: August 09, 2008, 03:50:03 PM »




Anchor store: WINN-DIXIE SUPERMARKET


http://www.loopnet.com/property/15439395/770-South-Goldenrod-Road/
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