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« Reply #400 on: August 12, 2008, 11:36:54 PM »

Hi Monkey friends! As most of you know, I am the silent Monkey, I don't post often because I still only have dial up way out here in the boonies, and posting takes FOREVER!    
After hurting for Natalee and her family for so long I promised myself I wasn't going to get so deep into another case again, but when I saw this beautiful baby's face that was it for me..I was hooked...again. This case is so sad that there just aren't any words to describe it.
I just wanted to say hi to all the Monkeys, and let you know that I am here in the background, supporting you all and praying for a miracle.





Hi Gabby...good to see you...keep the faith and the prayers!!!
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« Reply #401 on: August 12, 2008, 11:44:32 PM »

Hi Gabby!

I know how bad it is with dialup, I got stuck with it a couple of times and I feel for you!  No need to say hi back, I just wanted to say hi!
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« Reply #402 on: August 12, 2008, 11:45:11 PM »

I still think that was the last straw for Casey.  She made a mistake, she let the baby get hurt/die then she called the people she had depended on her whole life, they wernt there for her, she just shut down.

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« Reply #403 on: August 12, 2008, 11:46:39 PM »

ok....time lines screwing me up again...did I chase everyone away? lol

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6-02-08 Casey’s Boyfriend, Anthony Lazzaro, last sees Caylee on this date. Page 6, paragraph 1
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf

6-09-08 Casey Anthony told detectives that she last saw 2-year-old Caylee after dropping her off at Sawgrass Apartments #210 on South Conway Road (see map) on June 9, but the apartment has been vacant since February
http://www.wftv.com/news/16913653/detail.html

Casey claims a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez is Caylee's longtime babysitter. When investigators talked to Gonzalez, she told them she doesn't know the Anthonys and has never been a babysitter.
http://www.wftv.com/news/16913653/detail.html

Anthony Lazaro states that Casey moved in with Amy Huizenga on this date. Page 6, paragraph 1
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf



ok...so initially Cindy says the last time she saw Casey and Caylee was the 9th...and thus Casey says that was the day she dropped her off at Zenaida's. But we know that Casey didn't move out until the 16th correct? I mean it sounds like she stayed the night on Father's day. So did she supposedly drop her off on the 16th to the babysitters?

When the heck was the 2 week "vacation" she told her Mom she was going on supposed to have started??!!

So timeline says George left at 2:30...I thought it was earlier...why do we think Casey came back to the house on the 16th? Just because of the pool ladder?

So she calls George at 3:03...maybe to see if he has left to work for sure. Assuming she sneaks back home...gets there maybe 3:15...calls to Mom start at 4:10. So if Caylee was still with Casey, and they go back home...then Caylee was hurt somewhere between  3:15 and 4:10. A Short window...less than an hour.

This case just perplexes me!!!
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« Reply #404 on: August 12, 2008, 11:50:24 PM »

ok....time lines screwing me up again...did I chase everyone away? lol

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6-02-08 Casey’s Boyfriend, Anthony Lazzaro, last sees Caylee on this date. Page 6, paragraph 1
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf

6-09-08 Casey Anthony told detectives that she last saw 2-year-old Caylee after dropping her off at Sawgrass Apartments #210 on South Conway Road (see map) on June 9, but the apartment has been vacant since February
http://www.wftv.com/news/16913653/detail.html

Casey claims a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez is Caylee's longtime babysitter. When investigators talked to Gonzalez, she told them she doesn't know the Anthonys and has never been a babysitter.
http://www.wftv.com/news/16913653/detail.html

Anthony Lazaro states that Casey moved in with Amy Huizenga on this date. Page 6, paragraph 1
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf



ok...so initially Cindy says the last time she saw Casey and Caylee was the 9th...and thus Casey says that was the day she dropped her off at Zenaida's. But we know that Casey didn't move out until the 16th correct? I mean it sounds like she stayed the night on Father's day. So did she supposedly drop her off on the 16th to the babysitters?

When the heck was the 2 week "vacation" she told her Mom she was going on supposed to have started??!!

So timeline says George left at 2:30...I thought it was earlier...why do we think Casey came back to the house on the 16th? Just because of the pool ladder?

So she calls George at 3:03...maybe to see if he has left to work for sure. Assuming she sneaks back home...gets there maybe 3:15...calls to Mom start at 4:10. So if Caylee was still with Casey, and they go back home...then Caylee was hurt somewhere between  3:15 and 4:10. A Short window...less than an hour.

This case just perplexes me!!!

George saw Casey and Caylee leave the house on the 16th at 12:50pm but left for work himself at 2:30pm.  Yes, I think the only reason we were wondering if Casey came back to the house was the ladder and the pool and the flurry of phone calls.  I'm sure LE knows where the flurry of calls came from though. 
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« Reply #405 on: August 12, 2008, 11:57:26 PM »

ok....time lines screwing me up again...did I chase everyone away? lol

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6-02-08 Casey’s Boyfriend, Anthony Lazzaro, last sees Caylee on this date. Page 6, paragraph 1
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf

6-09-08 Casey Anthony told detectives that she last saw 2-year-old Caylee after dropping her off at Sawgrass Apartments #210 on South Conway Road (see map) on June 9, but the apartment has been vacant since February
http://www.wftv.com/news/16913653/detail.html

Casey claims a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez is Caylee's longtime babysitter. When investigators talked to Gonzalez, she told them she doesn't know the Anthonys and has never been a babysitter.
http://www.wftv.com/news/16913653/detail.html

Anthony Lazaro states that Casey moved in with Amy Huizenga on this date. Page 6, paragraph 1
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf



ok...so initially Cindy says the last time she saw Casey and Caylee was the 9th...and thus Casey says that was the day she dropped her off at Zenaida's. But we know that Casey didn't move out until the 16th correct? I mean it sounds like she stayed the night on Father's day. So did she supposedly drop her off on the 16th to the babysitters?

When the heck was the 2 week "vacation" she told her Mom she was going on supposed to have started??!!

So timeline says George left at 2:30...I thought it was earlier...why do we think Casey came back to the house on the 16th? Just because of the pool ladder?

So she calls George at 3:03...maybe to see if he has left to work for sure. Assuming she sneaks back home...gets there maybe 3:15...calls to Mom start at 4:10. So if Caylee was still with Casey, and they go back home...then Caylee was hurt somewhere between  3:15 and 4:10. A Short window...less than an hour.

This case just perplexes me!!!

George saw Casey and Caylee leave the house on the 16th at 12:50pm but left for work himself at 2:30pm.  Yes, I think the only reason we were wondering if Casey came back to the house was the ladder and the pool and the flurry of phone calls.  I'm sure LE knows where the flurry of calls came from though. 

I still don't understand why she didn't get ahold of her Mom if something happened to Caylee...they might have fought...but they still seemed close in their own disfunctional way.
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« Reply #406 on: August 13, 2008, 12:01:24 AM »

ok....time lines screwing me up again...did I chase everyone away? lol

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6-02-08 Casey’s Boyfriend, Anthony Lazzaro, last sees Caylee on this date. Page 6, paragraph 1
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf

6-09-08 Casey Anthony told detectives that she last saw 2-year-old Caylee after dropping her off at Sawgrass Apartments #210 on South Conway Road (see map) on June 9, but the apartment has been vacant since February
http://www.wftv.com/news/16913653/detail.html

Casey claims a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez is Caylee's longtime babysitter. When investigators talked to Gonzalez, she told them she doesn't know the Anthonys and has never been a babysitter.
http://www.wftv.com/news/16913653/detail.html

Anthony Lazaro states that Casey moved in with Amy Huizenga on this date. Page 6, paragraph 1
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf



ok...so initially Cindy says the last time she saw Casey and Caylee was the 9th...and thus Casey says that was the day she dropped her off at Zenaida's. But we know that Casey didn't move out until the 16th correct? I mean it sounds like she stayed the night on Father's day. So did she supposedly drop her off on the 16th to the babysitters?

When the heck was the 2 week "vacation" she told her Mom she was going on supposed to have started??!!

So timeline says George left at 2:30...I thought it was earlier...why do we think Casey came back to the house on the 16th? Just because of the pool ladder?

So she calls George at 3:03...maybe to see if he has left to work for sure. Assuming she sneaks back home...gets there maybe 3:15...calls to Mom start at 4:10. So if Caylee was still with Casey, and they go back home...then Caylee was hurt somewhere between  3:15 and 4:10. A Short window...less than an hour.

This case just perplexes me!!!

George saw Casey and Caylee leave the house on the 16th at 12:50pm but left for work himself at 2:30pm.  Yes, I think the only reason we were wondering if Casey came back to the house was the ladder and the pool and the flurry of phone calls.  I'm sure LE knows where the flurry of calls came from though. 

I still don't understand why she didn't get ahold of her Mom if something happened to Caylee...they might have fought...but they still seemed close in their own disfunctional way.


I am telling you...if something happened to Caylee on the 16th...and she is out partying that Friday....she is one really sick evil chick!!!

I just wish we knew what her pattern was BEFORE June!!!

I mean where the heck was she leaving Caylee in March, April, May??!!

Have we even heard of ANY babysitter in '08??!! What in the heck was she doing every day with Caylee??!!!
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« Reply #407 on: August 13, 2008, 12:07:15 AM »

She tried to get ahold of her mom and dad but nobody answered. 
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« Reply #408 on: August 13, 2008, 12:08:28 AM »

CASEY'S CELL PHONE CALL LOG





Interresting that no call to brother Lee, the one Casey is supposed to be so close to. 
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« Reply #409 on: August 13, 2008, 12:12:07 AM »

What if she was leaving Caylee in the car each time she claimed to be working?  Maybe they just sat there in the car or went to someone's house while the parents thought she was working?  By June, I am sure Caylee was tired of being in that car all the time.  She would never understand why she was there, in fact, she wouldn't even care other than she was stuck in a car all the time.  When did Caylee go to the bathroom?  Was Casey going to other people's houses during this time with Caylee?  How could the grandparents not know something was wrong.  Did they ever wonder about Casey's paycheck?  What would Caylee tell Cindy if she asked about the sitter?  When my daughter was with a sitter, even at 2 going on 3, she would say her name or something about what she did that day. I don't understand it at all...but then again this case could make you crazy if you let it.
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« Reply #410 on: August 13, 2008, 12:14:11 AM »

I wonder if the calls on the 18th were to find out (make sure) if anyone was home.  That's the day Casey borrowed the shovel from the next door neighbor and backed into the garage. 
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« Reply #411 on: August 13, 2008, 12:14:39 AM »

She tried to get ahold of her mom and dad but nobody answered. 

What if Casey wasn't making frantic calls...just annoying calls because she wanted something simple...such as money.  She was calling and calling and they would not answer...how do you not answer a call to work?  There would be more than just you there to answer the phone, right?
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« Reply #412 on: August 13, 2008, 12:17:25 AM »

I wonder if the calls on the 18th were to find out (make sure) if anyone was home.  That's the day Casey borrowed the shovel from the next door neighbor and backed into the garage. 

Grasping at straws here....what if Casey backed into the garage because the gas cans were heavy.  I know that may not make any sense, but Casey is a small person and a full gas can is cumbersome. Would it not be easier to lift them into the trunk if you were closer to them? I do not think she had Caylee in the trunk at all.  I think Caylee was already somewhere else. MOO
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« Reply #413 on: August 13, 2008, 12:17:48 AM »

So she was probably not at:

Her mom's work, but could have been at her Mom's house.

It looks like she did not get Tony or Jesse.  If they are home during the day she was not at their houses.
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« Reply #414 on: August 13, 2008, 12:20:41 AM »

REMEMBER - we were told they were ALL unanswered calls.
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« Reply #415 on: August 13, 2008, 12:21:54 AM »

I wonder if the calls on the 18th were to find out (make sure) if anyone was home.  That's the day Casey borrowed the shovel from the next door neighbor and backed into the garage. 

Very good question! Could be exactly what was going on.

Also...we now hear that a neighbor has told of loud words between Casey and her parents on the 15th.  The 16th is the day George says Casey and Caylee left with their "backpacks" and that Casey said she was going to work and would be home late that night or the next day.  I've always thought that strange.  Wouldn't George and Cindy want to know where Caylee would be all night if Casey didn't come home?

That yelling on the 15th...could Casey have been telling her parents that she's moving in with boyfriend and the parents didn't want Casey to take Caylee away?? Knowing how unreliable Casey is, it would seem reasonable that George and Cindy would be very concerned about taking Caylee to live somewhere else.  Also, could tend to get Casey mad and spiteful that all the concern is about Caylee....just thinkin'

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« Reply #416 on: August 13, 2008, 12:22:34 AM »

She could be at Ricardo and Amy's place.
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« Reply #417 on: August 13, 2008, 12:24:07 AM »

She tried to get ahold of her mom and dad but nobody answered. 

if something happened to my little Monkey...I would keep calling until I got SOMEONE!!!! That is just some crazy shit!!!
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« Reply #418 on: August 13, 2008, 12:25:51 AM »

I wonder if the calls on the 18th were to find out (make sure) if anyone was home.  That's the day Casey borrowed the shovel from the next door neighbor and backed into the garage. 

Grasping at straws here....what if Casey backed into the garage because the gas cans were heavy.  I know that may not make any sense, but Casey is a small person and a full gas can is cumbersome. Would it not be easier to lift them into the trunk if you were closer to them? I do not think she had Caylee in the trunk at all.  I think Caylee was already somewhere else. MOO

or you didn't want the neighbors seeing you steal them!!!

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« Reply #419 on: August 13, 2008, 12:26:47 AM »

She tried to get ahold of her mom and dad but nobody answered. 

if something happened to my little Monkey...I would keep calling until I got SOMEONE!!!! That is just some crazy shit!!!

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