Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #4

[Jennifer34]

So it is probably safe to say it isnt her cooky parents paying for the lawyer or they probably would have said. 

My mom used to work for a defense atty. and he took some high profile cases pro bono just for the publicity. 

Doesnt sound like he has much of a winning track record.  Most of his clients appear to be guilty at the onset.

I forgot to add .... that makes me wonder about the escort thing. 

[mrskub]

Caylee Anthony's Grandfather Says 3-Year-Old Has Been Kidnapped

POSTED: 12:02 pm EDT August 12, 2008
UPDATED: 12:42 pm EDT August 12, 2008


George Anthony told Eyewitness News he was supposed to meet in Oviedo on Tuesday morning with "people assisting outside the normal scope of things" and he seemed to suggest that the people are doing surveillance on kidnappers who he believes have his granddaughter.

"These people know they are being watched. They know it," George told Eyewitness News on Tuesday morning.

"Who are these people?" WFTV reporter Derrol Nail asked.

"I really can't get into that with you," George said.

"Are there people out there who can help you find these people?" Nail asked.

"Yeah, you would think that the people who have my granddaughter right now would be smart enough to turn this girl back in to her family. I don't want anymore of this going on," he said.

"You really believe that, George, with all the evidence out there to the counter?" Nail asked.

"Oh, deeply. You know something? Stuff that's out there so far, I hope I can say this as politely as I can, evidence that's out there is circumstantial. Evidence that's out there is being drawn up in someone's mind. Just because some things look like it's going in one way, it could go in a totally different way," he said.

During his time in Oviedo on Tuesday morning, he passed out shirts and fliers to random strangers who came up to him, but the person who he said he was supposed to meet in Oviedo didn't show up.

Eyewitness News asked if he has hired a private investigator and he would only say that the people who are doing the surveillance are private people who are helping him.

After his brief conversation with Eyewitness News, George hit the road with a Caylee billboard in tow. He said he plans on driving it to Sanford and possibly Daytona if time allows.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html

[mrskub]

Notice Oviedo pops up again.

[Jennifer34]

Well George said ....

If any of that crap was true his grand daughter would have either been returned in time for the party or dead now.

Who says crap like there are people watching people etc. 

I think its more like shut down some of the voices in your head George.

what a load of crap.  That whole article makes it look like this is some kind of game or scavenger hunt. 

For God sakes ... please conduct your own investigations and dont dare contact the FBI .....  pleeese forget the boots, I think its past time for the waders.  Errrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[IMurSTAR]

I do not know if you guys will get this but IMurSTAR asked today about the Oviedo house and the response was try Orange County.  It is actually Seminole County and what I pulled up on www.scpafl.org was 4599 Lacebark Trail.  Owners Mary, Frances, Wayne Huizenga.  I am very new to this board but Caylee has pulled me in.  I don't mean to sound weird but it just arrrr.

Thanks CBeach but I looked the address up. It was an address in Oviedo that Amy lived in. It ended up NOT being her parents and I didn't see it for rent anywhere. It's now forsale (been for sale since May). I doubt it has any baring. It's obvious Casey never lived there. Thanks for the info on Amy's parents house. I suppose she could be refering to that place too.

[Destiny]

Notice Oviedo pops up again.

I was told that Lee is the one in charge of the find Caylee website...I wonder if Lee spends a lot of time surfing places like SM to find any details to build a story around...just thowing in my 2 copper discs....

[bleachedblack]

Caylee Anthony's Grandfather Says 3-Year-Old Has Been Kidnapped

POSTED: 12:02 pm EDT August 12, 2008
UPDATED: 12:42 pm EDT August 12, 2008


George Anthony told Eyewitness News he was supposed to meet in Oviedo on Tuesday morning with "people assisting outside the normal scope of things" and he seemed to suggest that the people are doing surveillance on kidnappers who he believes have his granddaughter.

"These people know they are being watched. They know it," George told Eyewitness News on Tuesday morning.

"Who are these people?" WFTV reporter Derrol Nail asked.

"I really can't get into that with you," George said.

"Are there people out there who can help you find these people?" Nail asked.

"Yeah, you would think that the people who have my granddaughter right now would be smart enough to turn this girl back in to her family. I don't want anymore of this going on," he said.

"You really believe that, George, with all the evidence out there to the counter?" Nail asked.

"Oh, deeply. You know something? Stuff that's out there so far, I hope I can say this as politely as I can, evidence that's out there is circumstantial. Evidence that's out there is being drawn up in someone's mind. Just because some things look like it's going in one way, it could go in a totally different way," he said.

During his time in Oviedo on Tuesday morning, he passed out shirts and fliers to random strangers who came up to him, but the person who he said he was supposed to meet in Oviedo didn't show up.

Eyewitness News asked if he has hired a private investigator and he would only say that the people who are doing the surveillance are private people who are helping him.

After his brief conversation with Eyewitness News, George hit the road with a Caylee billboard in tow. He said he plans on driving it to Sanford and possibly Daytona if time allows.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html

If the Anthony's really felt that Caylee has been kidnapped then the first thing they would do would be to hire a PI to find out where she is. You wouldn't have George hanging around for some clandestine meeting that doesn't happen, nor friends "investigating". But they know the truth.......and why throw good money -after-bad?

[2NJSons_Mom]

So it is probably safe to say it isnt her cooky parents paying for the lawyer or they probably would have said. 

My mom used to work for a defense atty. and he took some high profile cases pro bono just for the publicity. 

Doesnt sound like he has much of a winning track record.  Most of his clients appear to be guilty at the onset.

I forgot to add .... that makes me wonder about the escort thing. 

My SIL works for defense attorneys and I know that's predominantly their forte, but the do take other things like closings, divorce, etc.  I've never had the thought to ask if they take pro bono cases.  I imagine they have, but can't be sure. 

[Jennifer34]

Maybe Casey put Caylee in some kind of under ground rail road type thing to get her away from her large and in charge grandmother.  Oh but wait, I think the mom is supposed to go with the kid?

On another note ... What would be the purpose for holding a toddler for 28 days that you are being a care giver to for no ransom and all of America is looking for? 

I spent a couple of hours chasing a 2 year old recently and I tell you, I love that kid, but its exhausting to say the least.

[Slogger]

I do not know if you guys will get this but IMurSTAR asked today about the Oviedo house and the response was try Orange County.  It is actually Seminole County and what I pulled up on www.scpafl.org was 4599 Lacebark Trail.  Owners Mary, Frances, Wayne Huizenga.  I am very new to this board but Caylee has pulled me in.  I don't mean to sound weird but it just arrrr.

Thanks CBeach but I looked the address up. It was an address in Oviedo that Amy lived in. It ended up NOT being her parents and I didn't see it for rent anywhere. It's now forsale (been for sale since May). I doubt it has any baring. It's obvious Casey never lived there. Thanks for the info on Amy's parents house. I suppose she could be refering to that place too.

If the previous location (where Amy lived) were with her parents, Amy's mail might have been forwarded to her parents new address.  I would think she'd check with them for the insurance items.  However, if the address was not her parents, and is up for sale, I would be very interested about when it was vacated.

I'm not quite ready to give up Oviedo.  Strange that George went there last night . . . coincidence (maybe not.)

Casey was somewhere from the 16th on, and we're having trouble tracking her movements.

[seemeatthebeach]

Caylee Anthony's Grandfather Says 3-Year-Old Has Been Kidnapped

POSTED: 12:02 pm EDT August 12, 2008
UPDATED: 12:42 pm EDT August 12, 2008


George Anthony told Eyewitness News he was supposed to meet in Oviedo on Tuesday morning with "people assisting outside the normal scope of things" and he seemed to suggest that the people are doing surveillance on kidnappers who he believes have his granddaughter.

"These people know they are being watched. They know it," George told Eyewitness News on Tuesday morning.

"Who are these people?" WFTV reporter Derrol Nail asked.

"I really can't get into that with you," George said.

"Are there people out there who can help you find these people?" Nail asked.

"Yeah, you would think that the people who have my granddaughter right now would be smart enough to turn this girl back in to her family. I don't want anymore of this going on," he said.

"You really believe that, George, with all the evidence out there to the counter?" Nail asked.

"Oh, deeply. You know something? Stuff that's out there so far, I hope I can say this as politely as I can, evidence that's out there is circumstantial. Evidence that's out there is being drawn up in someone's mind. Just because some things look like it's going in one way, it could go in a totally different way," he said.

During his time in Oviedo on Tuesday morning, he passed out shirts and fliers to random strangers who came up to him, but the person who he said he was supposed to meet in Oviedo didn't show up.

Eyewitness News asked if he has hired a private investigator and he would only say that the people who are doing the surveillance are private people who are helping him.

After his brief conversation with Eyewitness News, George hit the road with a Caylee billboard in tow. He said he plans on driving it to Sanford and possibly Daytona if time allows.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17169161/detail.html

I'll bet the FBI told grampa to go ahead and meet with people, who know people, who knows someone.......who has been watching some people.........PLEASE STOP THE MADNESS!!!

I hope they have a quad on the psych unit for this whacked out family!

[klaasend]

http://www.local6.com/news/17169920/detail.html

2nd Search In Two Days For Missing 3-Year-Old Orlando Girl Called Off
Girl's Mother Remains Jailed On $500,000 Bond

POSTED: 1:07 pm EDT August 12, 2008
UPDATED: 1:40 pm EDT August 12, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- For the second time in two days, Orange County sheriff's deputies and K-9 units performed a search for Caylee Anthony, the missing 3-year-old Orlando girl who was reported missing in mid-July but hasn't been seen since mid-June.

Orange County sheriff's deputies on Tuesday requested the assistance of Osceola County's K-9 unit and searched a wooded area near the home of Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

The search was called off and nothing was believed to have been found, Local 6 News reported.

On Monday, deputies searched a wooded area near Lee Vista Boulevard and Narcoossee Road.

Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, remains held on $500,000 bond on charges of child neglect filing a false statement. Casey Anthony said in a 911 call placed in mid-July that she had not seen her daughter for 31 days.

George and Cindy Anthony are scheduled to visit their daughter on Thursday.

Local 6 News also reported Tuesday that DNA evidence from Casey Anthony's car, which was found abandoned last month at an Orange County Amscot, has not yet been returned from the lab.

Family Threatened Daily

Meanwhile, the family of Caylee Anthony continues to be threatened every day as a search for the child continues.

"We get threats every day," Cindy Anthony, said. "We get threats on our home phone and we get threats on our cell phone."

Casey Anthony's brother, Lee Anthony, canceled a scheduled Orange County Jail visit with his sister on Tuesday morning.

Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, said his client wants to talk with her family but is sacrificing for her daughter.

"It's not something she wants," Anthony's attorney Jose Baez said. "She wants to see her family. She wants to talk to her family but she's willing to sacrifice that for Caylee."

George Anthony was the last family member to see Casey Anthony, a visit that took place last Sunday.

Wednesday will mark one month since Casey Anthony was jailed in connection with the case.

Caylee Called?

Cindy Anthony said on Monday that she believes the missing girl may have made a call after she vanished -- which would be new information in the case.

"I believe my mother also heard Caylee during that time," Cindy Anthony said.

When Cindy Anthony was asked how Caylee would know her great-grandmother's phone number, she said the number was programmed into Casey Anthony's phone.

A sheriff's department representative is checking to see if Cindy Anthony has ever mentioned the call before.

Expert Discusses Liars

Family and friends have described Casey Anthony as a pathological liar -- a person who they claim has told one lie after the next, Local 6 reported.

Dr. Richard Hall, who is a forensic psychiatrist with patients who are both in and out of jail, said habitual liars often lie to feel good about themselves.

"It shows that I'm smarter than you are and it shows that I have some power over you," Hall said. "And it shows that I've got some power over you and that I can manipulate you."

Hall said people who lie often never come forward to tell the truth.

"People who are habitual liars continue to lie in captivity just like they lie in the general public," Hall said. "So, they tend not to change and suddenly want to tell the truth and get everything."

Hall said he can't comment specifically about the Caylee Anthony case but said it could take some time as investigators search for the truth.

Bond Motion Denied

On Monday, an appeals court has denied a motion to lower the bond for Casey Anthony.

The 5th District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach denied Casey Anthony's motion for a rehearing. The motion was sealed.

"I still think that to this day, the bond is excessive and tantamount to no bond at all," Baez said.

Casey Anthony is being held on $500,000 bond on charges of child neglect, making false statements and obstructing an investigation. Police said she lied to them and didn't report her daughter, Caylee, missing for more than a month.

Grandparents Visit Detectives

The grandparents of Caylee Anthony met with detectives on Monday for about two hours.

George and Cindy Anthony were at the Orange County Sheriff's Office from about 9:30 a.m. until 11:30 a.m. in what they called an exchange of ideas.

Cindy Anthony said she talked with detectives about a phone call that Casey Anthony said she received in which she heard Caylee in the background. According to a search warrant, detectives said phone records show that the phone call never occurred.

"We discussed that with the deputies today. They're re-looking at the phone records because that's a misstatement," Cindy Anthony said.

A national search for Caylee continues.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this developing story.

[seemeatthebeach]

nice color...

[seemeatthebeach]

Hall said "people who lie often never come forward to tell the truth."

The saddest part of this article, IMO

[IMurSTAR]

I do not know if you guys will get this but IMurSTAR asked today about the Oviedo house and the response was try Orange County.  It is actually Seminole County and what I pulled up on www.scpafl.org was 4599 Lacebark Trail.  Owners Mary, Frances, Wayne Huizenga.  I am very new to this board but Caylee has pulled me in.  I don't mean to sound weird but it just arrrr.

Thanks CBeach but I looked the address up. It was an address in Oviedo that Amy lived in. It ended up NOT being her parents and I didn't see it for rent anywhere. It's now forsale (been for sale since May). I doubt it has any baring. It's obvious Casey never lived there. Thanks for the info on Amy's parents house. I suppose she could be refering to that place too.

If the previous location (where Amy lived) were with her parents, Amy's mail might have been forwarded to her parents new address.  I would think she'd check with them for the insurance items.  However, if the address was not her parents, and is up for sale, I would be very interested about when it was vacated.

I'm not quite ready to give up Oviedo.  Strange that George went there last night . . . coincidence (maybe not.)

Casey was somewhere from the 16th on, and we're having trouble tracking her movements.

Ok since I'm not sure the legality of posting certain info. I will just say this. There is a beautiful home in OVIEDO that I'm interested in.. It's for sale here.
http://www.erikarealty.com/Just+Listed!+895+N+Lake+Jessup+Ave+Oviedo%2c+FL+32765

It appears to have been listed in April. Don't know if the people living in it have moved out, or if it had been rented, but I didn't find anywhere where it was put up for rent. Anyone that wants to know why I'm interested in the place can email me.

Current owner information (found on a public website):
Parcel Id:    09-21-31-300-002A-0000
Owner:    FITZGERALD RICHARD & INGRID J
Mailing Address:    611 W PALM VALLEY DR
City,State,ZipCode:    OVIEDO FL 32765

[Slogger]

Correction to the above Oviedo information:  George was to meet with the mysterious this morning, Tues. Aug. 12.

[mrskub]

The search was actually a ways away from the Anthony Home. I haven't heard that they've checked the wooded area behind the Anthony's. I guess they aren't listening about checking landfills either.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=4937+hopespring+dr+orlando+florida&daddr=Lee+Vista+Boulevard+and+Narcoossee+Road+orlando+florida&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=28.468465,-81.274967&sspn=0.027842,0.083084&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=28.476613,-81.262436&spn=0.02784,0.083084&t=k&z=14&cbll=28.47913,-81.28791&panoid=vdZd9zb5H9cP1RhaElDNSw

[Destiny]

I do not know if you guys will get this but IMurSTAR asked today about the Oviedo house and the response was try Orange County.  It is actually Seminole County and what I pulled up on www.scpafl.org was 4599 Lacebark Trail.  Owners Mary, Frances, Wayne Huizenga.  I am very new to this board but Caylee has pulled me in.  I don't mean to sound weird but it just arrrr.

Thanks CBeach but I looked the address up. It was an address in Oviedo that Amy lived in. It ended up NOT being her parents and I didn't see it for rent anywhere. It's now forsale (been for sale since May). I doubt it has any baring. It's obvious Casey never lived there. Thanks for the info on Amy's parents house. I suppose she could be refering to that place too.

If the previous location (where Amy lived) were with her parents, Amy's mail might have been forwarded to her parents new address.  I would think she'd check with them for the insurance items.  However, if the address was not her parents, and is up for sale, I would be very interested about when it was vacated.

I'm not quite ready to give up Oviedo.  Strange that George went there last night . . . coincidence (maybe not.)

Casey was somewhere from the 16th on, and we're having trouble tracking her movements.

Hi Slogger...can you find the number to the real estate agency...and the address of the house for sale...I'll call and see what I can get....

Destiny

[IMurSTAR]

Also one more point about the cell phone. Someone mentioned that Cindy would have to know that she got a new one because of the new number. Isn't it now federal law that you are able to take an old number to a new subsciber. Not sure if or how that would work if your parents where paying your bill, thus the number was thiers but she could have the same number. Also I'm again not sure exactly how cell phones work but is it possible to move a sim from a say Sprint phone to say a Criket and it still work? It thought SIMS would only work on the same subscriber??

I have a friend that does this when he comes back into the states. He buys a pay as you go phone and puts his SIM in it so he has all his numbers.

[mrskub]

I do not know if you guys will get this but IMurSTAR asked today about the Oviedo house and the response was try Orange County.  It is actually Seminole County and what I pulled up on www.scpafl.org was 4599 Lacebark Trail.  Owners Mary, Frances, Wayne Huizenga.  I am very new to this board but Caylee has pulled me in.  I don't mean to sound weird but it just arrrr.

Thanks CBeach but I looked the address up. It was an address in Oviedo that Amy lived in. It ended up NOT being her parents and I didn't see it for rent anywhere. It's now forsale (been for sale since May). I doubt it has any baring. It's obvious Casey never lived there. Thanks for the info on Amy's parents house. I suppose she could be refering to that place too.

If the previous location (where Amy lived) were with her parents, Amy's mail might have been forwarded to her parents new address.  I would think she'd check with them for the insurance items.  However, if the address was not her parents, and is up for sale, I would be very interested about when it was vacated.

I'm not quite ready to give up Oviedo.  Strange that George went there last night . . . coincidence (maybe not.)

Casey was somewhere from the 16th on, and we're having trouble tracking her movements.

Ok since I'm not sure the legality of posting certain info. I will just say this. There is a beautiful home in OVIEDO that I'm interested in.. It's for sale here.
http://www.erikarealty.com/Just+Listed!+895+N+Lake+Jessup+Ave+Oviedo%2c+FL+32765

It appears to have been listed in April. Don't know if the people living in it have moved out, or if it had been rented, but I didn't find anywhere where it was put up for rent. Anyone that wants to know why I'm interested in the place can email me.

Current owner information (found on a public website):
Parcel Id:    09-21-31-300-002A-0000
Owner:    FITZGERALD RICHARD & INGRID J
Mailing Address:    611 W PALM VALLEY DR
City,State,ZipCode:    OVIEDO FL 32765

I would love to know. Can Klaas give me your email?