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Author Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #5  (Read 370619 times)
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« Reply #440 on: August 16, 2008, 12:31:46 PM »

I do believe that Jose stopped the visit from Lee, and I also suspect the visit from Cindy and George didn't suit her atty's liking.

I wish they would release those visits!

Oh My, always1! CLEAN UP ON PAGE 22!!
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« Reply #441 on: August 16, 2008, 12:33:17 PM »

Fox now......Bounty Bob
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« Reply #442 on: August 16, 2008, 12:33:53 PM »

thanks tree ....  and everyone

but also think about the publicity these bounty hunter are getting and will get if they find Caylee.   Business might be slow for them right now and after they find Caylee business will be blooming everyone would want to hire them
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« Reply #443 on: August 16, 2008, 12:34:39 PM »

Thank you Flossy and welcome!!!
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« Reply #444 on: August 16, 2008, 12:35:32 PM »

I just don't think they are going to release casey.  I just don't.  They will not let that happen.  I  have a problem with Padilla trying to get information out of casey because he sounded like he totally believed in casey.  He believed her nanny story and actually defended her actions.  If he already believes her lies, what more information does he need from her?  She has given enough statements just in the arrest document to help him out.  Since he is so good at finding people, why doesn't he look for Caylee.  When she is found, this will all be over.  If she's alive Casey would be out of jail some year and Mr. Padilla would be famous.  I don't think he wants her out to get information from her, I think he wants to plant defense strategies in her warped little mind. 
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« Reply #445 on: August 16, 2008, 12:36:47 PM »

Rob
You are right.  Baez wanted to get the ball rolling.  The faster he can get to trial the less prepared the prosecution will be.  Essentially he threw them for a loop yesterday.  That is pretty good work for a defense attorney.  You are also correct about it is a dangerous path to go down.  Casey could easily get a murder charge tacked on soon.  As I have said before, all the lawyers talk and they talk with the LE.  So Baez knows his best defense is to get a speedy trial.  It overworks your prosecution, because they not only have this case but others to prosecute also.  Everything doesn't stop with this one.  The sheriff's department now has to get on the ball with the evidence. They can't just sit and wait it out.  Baez essentially started the hour glass running and it's time for LE to catch up.  If they don't Casey is going to be a free woman when the dust settles.  Also, he may be thinking that if Casey's story is true he can get some action in that direction also.  That would be a big feather in his cap if he finds that child. Baez's primary concern is Casey's defense and I give him kudos there.

Right Lalas,

check check check - check it out

Casey is not in jail on a $500,200 bond for neglect and lying to the authorities, that would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 50k max - and that would be 5000 straight. She would be out and her daughter not misplaced.

Casey is being held informally for some type of murder - the DA is just not sure if this is first degree or second degree. And the judge agreed.


Rob, I wonder if they will  charge her with second degree with the possibility of adding/upping the charges to first if they come up with more evidence. That was the reasoning for charging Slimeball Mark Scum of the Earth Lewis PondScum.....They were afraid that it would be harder to convict on first, but felt pretty sure they could get a conviction on second, but said that if they came up with more evidence before we went to trial they could up it to first degree... just wondering...
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« Reply #446 on: August 16, 2008, 12:37:17 PM »

Thank you Flossy and welcome!!!

You're welcome!  I'm a nurse, so if you were nearby I'd come over and take care of you!  (I swear I'm not Cindy Anthony!!   )
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« Reply #447 on: August 16, 2008, 12:38:01 PM »

This guy is convinced Caylee is alive. With that foundation, he and Casey should get along pretty well for a while. That does 3/4 of the battle for Casey. When her lies fall one by one and she's running him ragged, he'll change her mind.

I keep wondering how thrilled Casey's family is at the prospects of Casey out of jail.
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« Reply #448 on: August 16, 2008, 12:38:38 PM »

Fox now......Bounty Bob

Dang, Olympics on here...let us know what Bounty Bob has to say.
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« Reply #449 on: August 16, 2008, 12:38:53 PM »

klaas.... do you have any errand or anything to run today? Just wondering cause it seems to me that when you dare to step out of the cage, all hell breaks loose.....

No, but I can pretend 

    
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« Reply #450 on: August 16, 2008, 12:40:53 PM »

Whoah!

Jose and Casey have accepted the deal of the bondsman! okeedokey, then.

If parents refuse her to come home, they have a back-up plan. Count me as one that believes they will refuse!!

They'll say it's because of media attention, but I ain't buying that!
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« Reply #451 on: August 16, 2008, 12:41:06 PM »

I just don't think they are going to release casey.  I just don't.  They will not let that happen.  I  have a problem with Padilla trying to get information out of casey because he sounded like he totally believed in casey.  He believed her nanny story and actually defended her actions.  If he already believes her lies, what more information does he need from her?  She has given enough statements just in the arrest document to help him out.  Since he is so good at finding people, why doesn't he look for Caylee.  When she is found, this will all be over.  If she's alive Casey would be out of jail some year and Mr. Padilla would be famous.  I don't think he wants her out to get information from her, I think he wants to plant defense strategies in her warped little mind. 

I don't know Padilla at all, but I HOPE he is a good actor, playing a role that shows him believing Casey in order to gain her trust. According to the family, Casey doesn't trust very easily, so his skills need to be razor sharp.

Personally, I believe that if Casey is let out of jail, she will find a way to disappear. Ankle bracelet or not.
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« Reply #452 on: August 16, 2008, 12:44:04 PM »

If the DNA results are already in but are not being shared with Baez, can that get LE or the DA into any trouble?  I don't know if that would be considered withholding evidence at this point, or if that wouldn't be the case until she's been arraigned and it's time to go to trial.

I hope I worded that clearly.  I confused myself a little!  
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« Reply #453 on: August 16, 2008, 12:44:36 PM »

Even if she's bonded out, she's not going far:

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« Reply #454 on: August 16, 2008, 12:45:15 PM »

I DO NOT believe Casey wants to go home to Cindy, George, and Lee. 

They'll work this out for Bounty Bob to house her someplace. Bet on it. Even if they do bring her home initially, they'll get her out of there quickly. That arrangement will not last.
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« Reply #455 on: August 16, 2008, 12:45:27 PM »

Whoah!

Jose and Casey have accepted the deal of the bondsman! okeedokey, then.

If parents refuse her to come home, they have a back-up plan. Count me as one that believes they will refuse!!

They'll say it's because of media attention, but I ain't buying that!


Hmmmmm...... something must be giving them the impression that they don't want her there...
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« Reply #456 on: August 16, 2008, 12:45:56 PM »



Rob, I wonder if they will  charge her with second degree with the possibility of adding/upping the charges to first if they come up with more evidence. That was the reasoning for charging Slimeball Mark Scum of the Earth Lewis PondScum.....They were afraid that it would be harder to convict on first, but felt pretty sure they could get a conviction on second, but said that if they came up with more evidence before we went to trial they could up it to first degree... just wondering...

cubbee - they have her right now on 2nd degree - that's the $500,200 bond. If they thought it was first degree - she would not get bond. So they have her on the lower 2nd degree suspicion.

they could up the charges, but if they charge her with 2nd degree, she's getting out.

To keep her in they are going to need to charge her with first degree - I'm pretty sure this is correct. I'm 99.9% positive.
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« Reply #457 on: August 16, 2008, 12:48:04 PM »

Do you think there is anything in caseys personality that she would take her own life at this point?  Or does she love herself too much?
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« Reply #458 on: August 16, 2008, 12:49:25 PM »

If the DNA results are already in but are not being shared with Baez, can that get LE or the DA into any trouble?  I don't know if that would be considered withholding evidence at this point, or if that wouldn't be the case until she's been arraigned and it's time to go to trial.

I hope I worded that clearly.  I confused myself a little!  

Good question. I'm not a lawyer, but I think that only the stuff that LE is prepared to actually enter into evidence, is subject to full "discovery" by the defense. Short of that, it's just part of an ongoing investigation and does not have to be shared. I could be wrong, but that's my understanding.
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« Reply #459 on: August 16, 2008, 12:49:32 PM »



Rob, I wonder if they will  charge her with second degree with the possibility of adding/upping the charges to first if they come up with more evidence. That was the reasoning for charging Slimeball Mark Scum of the Earth Lewis PondScum.....They were afraid that it would be harder to convict on first, but felt pretty sure they could get a conviction on second, but said that if they came up with more evidence before we went to trial they could up it to first degree... just wondering...

cubbee - they have her right now on 2nd degree - that's the $500,200 bond. If they thought it was first degree - she would not get bond. So they have her on the lower 2nd degree suspicion.

they could up the charges, but if they charge her with 2nd degree, she's getting out.

To keep her in they are going to need to charge her with first degree - I'm pretty sure this is correct. I'm 99.9% positive.


I am thinking the same, and I know from that nasty experience that DA's are hesitant to charge 1st degree unless they have a REALLY hot smoking gun, due to the fact that juries are more hesitant to convict on a 1st degree charge, especially with a death penalty involved...does Florida even have a death penalty?
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