Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7

[misitx5]

ok, just wanna make sure I understand this from someone who saw it.

Whoreldo and Jose Baez went yachting and this New York / Kidnapping comes from Baez?

Whoreldo says that there are quirks in the case after spending some time with Baez?

and now this conversation leads Whorledo to believe that TONY has a drug connection and a connection to the Sawgrass apartments?

is this correct? anyone know?

+++++++

if this is even remotely true - why would the main suspect shut out the FBI? After-all they have national jurisdiction.

Why are the OCSO saying that the kidnapping theory has no credibility? Why didn't Baez or Whoreldo make this known yesterday?

This still wouldn't make complete sense to me because - Tony is not the last person to be seen with Caylee - that's George or Casey (depending on who you believe) and it does not explain why Casey dropped her daughter off in an apartment stairwell.

It also does not explain how Casey says she knows Zenaida for 2 - 2.5 - 5 years (I'm not sure which account is correct).

anyone help a brother out here?

I know no one has all the answers, but any would be appreciated.

I didn't see but I would love to know when this happened..Before or after the Casey Anthony thing began..

I still believe that either Casey or George was last seen with CAYLEE,one minute I believe casey was,the next minute I believe it was george...

They only thing I could think of bringing  Tony and sawgrass up is if casey was the last one with caylee and they are saying tony is connection to sawgrass and zenaida...

Which would mean that again eveyone is lying and zenaida didn't exist for 2 1/2 years...

[misitx5]

Williams Derrick
11653 148th St
Jamaica, NY 11436
(516) 794-4695‎
(718) 738-4243

I'm pretty sure this is the Puerto Rican area of the Bronx

Derrick Williams

2863 S Conway Rd

Orlando, FL 32812-5987

(407) *******

Listing Details

Job title: unavailable

Company: Society Entertainment

[Rob]

I guess we could literally be looking up any Derrick Williams.

any middle initial?

tell me it's "L"

 

[ldstlou]

ok, just wanna make sure I understand this from someone who saw it.

Whoreldo and Jose Baez went yachting and this New York / Kidnapping comes from Baez?

Whoreldo says that there are quirks in the case after spending some time with Baez?

and now this conversation leads Whorledo to believe that TONY has a drug connection and a connection to the Sawgrass apartments?

is this correct? anyone know?

+++++++

if this is even remotely true - why would the main suspect shut out the FBI? After-all they have national jurisdiction.

Why are the OCSO saying that the kidnapping theory has no credibility? Why didn't Baez or Whoreldo make this known yesterday?

This still wouldn't make complete sense to me because - Tony is not the last person to be seen with Caylee - that's George or Casey (depending on who you believe) and it does not explain why Casey dropped her daughter off in an apartment stairwell.

It also does not explain how Casey says she knows Zenaida for 2 - 2.5 - 5 years (I'm not sure which account is correct).

anyone help a brother out here?

I know no one has all the answers, but any would be appreciated.

hmmmm....could there be someone she knew that lived in the apartments who referred Zenaida to the place and that is how she knew the name?

[invision]

ok, just wanna make sure I understand this from someone who saw it.

Whoreldo and Jose Baez went yachting and this New York / Kidnapping comes from Baez?

Whoreldo says that there are quirks in the case after spending some time with Baez?

and now this conversation leads Whorledo to believe that TONY has a drug connection and a connection to the Sawgrass apartments?

is this correct? anyone know?

+++++++

if this is even remotely true - why would the main suspect shut out the FBI? After-all they have national jurisdiction.

Why are the OCSO saying that the kidnapping theory has no credibility? Why didn't Baez or Whoreldo make this known yesterday?

This still wouldn't make complete sense to me because - Tony is not the last person to be seen with Caylee - that's George or Casey (depending on who you believe) and it does not explain why Casey dropped her daughter off in an apartment stairwell.

It also does not explain how Casey says she knows Zenaida for 2 - 2.5 - 5 years (I'm not sure which account is correct).

anyone help a brother out here?

I know no one has all the answers, but any would be appreciated.

Rob there is speculation that this guy    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=107340879   is running an escort (call girl service) out of SawGrass Apts and his is affiliated with society entertainment (music industry) that Tony also had involvment with in a promotions sort of way ....

[ldstlou]

Williams Derrick
11653 148th St
Jamaica, NY 11436
(516) 794-4695‎
(718) 738-4243

I'm pretty sure this is the Puerto Rican area of the Bronx

no kidding Rob...didn't her girlfriend visit there? Was that where she went?

If the numbers on the amount of $$ Casey stole are correct..25k-45k...drugs had to have been involved..she just didn't dress THAT well!!

[seemeatthebeach]

ok, just wanna make sure I understand this from someone who saw it.

Whoreldo and Jose Baez went yachting and this New York / Kidnapping comes from Baez?

Whoreldo says that there are quirks in the case after spending some time with Baez?

and now this conversation leads Whorledo to believe that TONY has a drug connection and a connection to the Sawgrass apartments?

is this correct? anyone know?

+++++++

if this is even remotely true - why would the main suspect shut out the FBI? After-all they have national jurisdiction.

Why are the OCSO saying that the kidnapping theory has no credibility? Why didn't Baez or Whoreldo make this known yesterday?

This still wouldn't make complete sense to me because - Tony is not the last person to be seen with Caylee - that's George or Casey (depending on who you believe) and it does not explain why Casey dropped her daughter off in an apartment stairwell.

It also does not explain how Casey says she knows Zenaida for 2 - 2.5 - 5 years (I'm not sure which account is correct).

anyone help a brother out here?

I know no one has all the answers, but any would be appreciated.

Baez would be a lot more interested in finding Caylee if this were a true kidnapping. His concern is Casey's defense per Greta's interview last night. This is probably his defense for Casey. (reasonable doubt)

I've heard anywhere from 1-4 years on knowing Zenaida. Cindy has changed the # of years more than I change underwear.

Baez could give a crap what LE says, IMO. He doesn't trust them. I don't think the prosecutor is giving Baez even a crumb of what they have.

There isn't 1 piece of evidence that leads to a kidnapping, IMO.

Believing something doesn't make it so....which is what Anthony's are doing.

[invision]

If I'm not mistaken .... (and I might be) but it was Bad Boy Records that was having an "album debut party") on the night of June 13th at Fusian the night that some of those pics of Casey were taken .... (not the incriminating ones on the 20th) .... This is the party Casey was hitting up ppls myspace's inviting them to ..... Bad Boy Records is also "involved" with Society Entertainment (myspace friends) .... Speculation that Casey was "working" as a "call girl" with these groups of ppl

[Rob]

This is going to be interesting to see where this all goes. As we all know, defense attorneys have been known to make up all kinds of stories and even evidence if they think it will help win their client an acquittal.

Making up a story is not against the law. Fabricating evidence is.

The timing of it all makes me suspicious -  but stranger things have happened. I'm just not ready to believe anything that a defense attorney says through a handle bar mustache  unless there is more than gums flappin'.

And Whoreldo's track record is not stellar. Still waiting for the van der Sloot gangbang tape.

You have to admit, Whoreldo has come up with some dandy's over the years. 

[seemeatthebeach]

Baez will either be bald or totally gray by Jan 9th 2009 if he keeps hanging out under the Anthony circus tent.

[misitx5]

This is going to be interesting to see where this all goes. As we all know, defense attorneys have been known to make up all kinds of stories and even evidence if they think it will help win their client an acquittal.

Making up a story is not against the law. Fabricating evidence is.

The timing of it all makes me suspicious -  but stranger things have happened. I'm just not ready to believe anything that a defense attorney says through a handle bar mustache  unless there is more than gums flappin'.

And Whoreldo's track record is not stellar. Still waiting for the van der Sloot gangbang tape.

You have to admit, Whoreldo has come up with some dandy's over the years. 

Could very much be trying to plant resonable doubt. casey was hanging with a bad crowd with ties to all sorts of things...
Cant get much better for resonable doubt right, guns, drugs, call girls somehow they hurt CAYLEE not casey..
No wonder tony is still talking to cops...

[Rob]

if Zenaida is a call girl or part of a ring - I doubt she would be using her real name. But that begs the question - is she in a call girl ring or a babysitting ring?

those don't seem to go well together.

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seeme - it's really not Baez job to find Caylee, sad as that is. His job is pretty clear. Defend Casey.

If they do not share the info that he says confirms the fact that Caylee was kidnapped, well, his client will ultimately be convicted.

let's just give them all the "we don't trust the cops" angle - let's just grant them that. (after-all George was a cop, and does anyone trust him?  )

who is going to investigate this new kidnapped angle if not the FBI or local LE. All there is left of the nutball psychics with the dogs.

it makes no sense to me.

I have no idea how you can claim that there is evidence of a kidnapping and not involve the FBI. This is NOT finding Caylee if you ask me.

[seemeatthebeach]

IMO Casey's actions do not suggest a kidnapping. Drug dealers want $$$$, not 3 year olds that require 24/7 care.

Casey had no money, except what she stole. Parents are not wealthy by any stretch....Grampa changes jobs almost as often as his stories.

Even if she was a call-girl, it's pretty obvious she wasn't making much money.

When are the "alleged" kidnappers going to collect the (non-existent) ransom?

I don't think kidnappers wait 2 months to send a ransom note.

[misitx5]

if Zenaida is a call girl or part of a ring - I doubt she would be using her real name. But that begs the question - is she in a call girl ring or a babysitting ring?

those don't seem to go well together.

+++

seeme - it's really not Baez job to find Caylee, sad as that is. His job is pretty clear. Defend Casey.

If they do not share the info that he says confirms the fact that Caylee was kidnapped, well, his client will ultimately be convicted.

let's just give them all the "we don't trust the cops" angle - let's just grant them that. (after-all George was a cop, and does anyone trust him?  )

who is going to investigate this new kidnapped angle if not the FBI or local LE. All there is left of the nutball psychics with the dogs.

it makes no sense to me.

I have no idea how you can claim that there is evidence of a kidnapping and not involve the FBI. This is NOT finding Caylee if you ask me.

All we need them to say now is that company Society entertainment is shipping girls from  Puerto Rico to use as "call girls" and that is where Zenaida is from and since she is part of Society then therefore she would be at the clubs..Casey makes friends with the call girls they go back to Puerto Rico that why "Puerto Rico has taken so many friends" from her..

Can you hear my sarcasm...Please tell me that is not where this is going...

[seemeatthebeach]

You're right Rob.....Baez's job is to defend Casey, period.  If we wait for the Anthony loons to search for Caylee, we'll all be dead.

[MumInOhio]

If I'm not mistaken .... (and I might be) but it was Bad Boy Records that was having an "album debut party") on the night of June 13th at Fusian the night that some of those pics of Casey were taken .... (not the incriminating ones on the 20th) .... This is the party Casey was hitting up ppls myspace's inviting them to ..... Bad Boy Records is also "involved" with Society Entertainment (myspace friends) .... Speculation that Casey was "working" as a "call girl" with these groups of ppl

Good Morning...Thanks for the info. I haven't been able to keep up as well as I would like to.

[seemeatthebeach]

if Zenaida is a call girl or part of a ring - I doubt she would be using her real name. But that begs the question - is she in a call girl ring or a babysitting ring?

those don't seem to go well together.

+++

seeme - it's really not Baez job to find Caylee, sad as that is. His job is pretty clear. Defend Casey.

If they do not share the info that he says confirms the fact that Caylee was kidnapped, well, his client will ultimately be convicted.

let's just give them all the "we don't trust the cops" angle - let's just grant them that. (after-all George was a cop, and does anyone trust him?  )

who is going to investigate this new kidnapped angle if not the FBI or local LE. All there is left of the nutball psychics with the dogs.

it makes no sense to me.

I have no idea how you can claim that there is evidence of a kidnapping and not involve the FBI. This is NOT finding Caylee if you ask me.

All we need them to say now is that company Society entertainment is shipping girls from  Puerto Rico to use as "call girls" and that is where Zenaida is from and since she is part of Society then therefore she would be at the clubs..Casey makes friends with the call girls they go back to Puerto Rico that why "Puerto Rico has taken so many friends" from her..

Can you hear my sarcasm...Please tell me that is not where this is going...

Welcome to the land of OZ

[MumInOhio]

This is going to be interesting to see where this all goes. As we all know, defense attorneys have been known to make up all kinds of stories and even evidence if they think it will help win their client an acquittal.

Making up a story is not against the law. Fabricating evidence is.

The timing of it all makes me suspicious -  but stranger things have happened. I'm just not ready to believe anything that a defense attorney says through a handle bar mustache  unless there is more than gums flappin'.

And Whoreldo's track record is not stellar. Still waiting for the van der Sloot gangbang tape.

You have to admit, Whoreldo has come up with some dandy's over the years. 

Good Morning Rob...Not a big fan of his, but he was the first one to bring to light a porn tape in Aruba on June 14th, 2005. Not mentioned again until August 2005.

[klaasend]

If I'm not mistaken .... (and I might be) but it was Bad Boy Records that was having an "album debut party") on the night of June 13th at Fusian the night that some of those pics of Casey were taken .... (not the incriminating ones on the 20th) .... This is the party Casey was hitting up ppls myspace's inviting them to ..... Bad Boy Records is also "involved" with Society Entertainment (myspace friends) .... Speculation that Casey was "working" as a "call girl" with these groups of ppl

Invision - you are correct, it was Bad Boy Records. 

[fatcatlurker]

Am I crazy or something?  Why is this case still not being treated as a missing/endangered child case?  I just don't get it!  People are searching there asses off for a 5yr old little boy in Mass. FBI, Local police, neighbors, friends while dad sits in jail and in Florida we have nothing but a circus!  wtf!