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Question: After the 400+ document release - what is your current opinion?
Casey killed Caylee by accident or intentionally - 75 (89.3%)
Casey gave Caylee away to friends & knows where she is - 2 (2.4%)
Casey gave Caylee away to strangers & doesn't know where she is - 4 (4.8%)
Some unknown person stole Caylee from Casey - 0 (0%)
Someone else killed Caylee & Casey is covering for them - 3 (3.6%)
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« Reply #1720 on: August 26, 2008, 03:11:13 PM »

hey guys, where can i read these 400 pages of documents that were released?

Klaas posted that someone put them here, just a bit ago...

http://www.4shared.com/dir/8947091/c66f208a/sharing.html
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« Reply #1721 on: August 26, 2008, 03:14:49 PM »

After 3 hours of time you could have taught a monkey how to remember a "story".  The LE needs to arrest the parents for atleast obstruction of justice!

Also, didn't Cindy tell Amy when she called her that Casey was "in a lot of trouble" and that she could go to jail if she didn't find her? How would she know that? Was was she talking about? It had to be something from the car.
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« Reply #1722 on: August 26, 2008, 03:16:09 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

I did a terrible, terrible thing last night and I've just been SICK about it.  SICK!  My daughter just turned 18.  She is a high school drop out and a mother of a one year old (the little monkey you see above).  My daughter is a habitual liar and cannot take care of her daughter alone.  They live with me.  The longer this story about Caylee goes on, and the more lies my daughter tells me, the sicker I get worrying about my granddaughter.  I KNOW my daughter would never do anything to hurt her child, but the lies she is telling remind me so much of Casey that I actually told my daughter last night that she reminded me of Casey and I was in fear for Avery's life.  I was upset and blowing things out of proportion but I am so sick of her stupid lies and laziness!  I wanted to physically slap my daughter in the face but I think my words hurt 100 times more.  I'm ashamed of myself for losing control and saying such horrible things to her.  I just want her to wake up and take a good hard look at what she is doing (and not doing) and grow up A LOT.  I am very likely going to petition for temporary guardianship of my granddaughter so I feel I have more control over what happens with her.  I have no intentions of taking Avery away from my daughter.  I just want to be in charge since I am footing the bill for EVERYTHING.  I give her most of her baths, buy all of her clothes, food, milk, baby paraphenalia, etc.

I know this is way off topic.  I just needed to get this off of my chest.  Thanks.

My Advice is to tell your daughter she doesn't have to lie to you.
You will help her in anyway you can.
What does she need.
 What does she want from you.
As long as she checks in with you.you will help her.
Tell her to take some time off ,and go play with her friends  and you will take over for a while and be the Mommy since you are anyway.

No more lies she can do what ever she wants as long as she tells you the truth you will be on her side.

Thust me, a bird held in open hands has no reason to fly, trap her and she might leave with your grandbaby with her.

I have been down this road.



PS I was a very bad child  when I was 16-18  years old .
I lied, snuck out of the house.
I was very mean.
Hung out with all the wrong crowd .
I never did drugs or got drunk because that would control me and I could not be controled by anything . Does that make sense?


I could tell you stories, but as soon as I got out of  my parents house to marry and get free of this crap It got worse.
 I married one of my boyfriends he beat me every day of my life with him
I married him to escape my parents haha for me.
I lived in HELL, he broke my nose ,and my jaw.
After my daughter was born he still beat me untill I got some balls and hit him back with a baseball bat.
he was 6' I am 5' I thought it was fair.
Then I left his ass .Also had him arrested.
 Now  my daughter and I were FREE .
The price some of us do for freedom.

Don't let her do what I did marry the wrong guy jusy to get out .
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They had a trapped me . Your daughter feels traped give her the space and she will change on her own I did.


Blonde, I would never fight you, I might lose!!!

Be tough, we all have to be at times. It's this damn case. My daughter's 27th birthday was Sunday. She and her friends went out Friday. They had photos much like Casey's. She is a good girl, not married, no children, college grad, doin' the right thing. But those pictures tore me apart. I hope I hid my emotions because she is young and we are all young once. I was ashamed of how I felt. She is a normal child. Not a drunk or a druggie. This case is beginning to take a toll on me.
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« Reply #1723 on: August 26, 2008, 03:18:05 PM »

hey guys, where can i read these 400 pages of documents that were released?

If you scroll down you will see Part 1, Part 2, Part 3 .  It will open to the pdf documents (3) that total the 400+ pages:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/08/25/missing-caylee-anthony-400-pages-of-document-released-in-casey-anthony-case/

ok thx
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« Reply #1724 on: August 26, 2008, 03:19:26 PM »

Lisa
My Yahoo is down right now...I will get in touch when it comes back up. 

thank you!!

Do you have nationwide calling on your phone?  If so, I just sent you my number.  It's in Alabama.

yep..and unlimited minutes..thanks!!!

Da-wench...my life would be so much easier if I gave in right now...I would get child support...and a free weekend every other week..plus Wednesdays. I don't want freedom...I want to give my son a good life. And this will cost a fortune...it will be a struggle...but I can make money...I had my freedom when I was younger...nothing makes me happier than my Monkey.

Fight for Avery!!! Put your feelins aside about your daughter...you gave her a good chance in life...she didn't grab it...yet...keep doing what you are doing and give Avery a great start!!!

Prayers to you...I am calling my Lalas now!!!

Thanks for all your encouragement!!  Please keep us posted on how things go.
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« Reply #1725 on: August 26, 2008, 03:28:22 PM »

OK, I guess this will make no sense either..seems I keep missing the point..but...

Casey wanted to talk to the Hawkins guy because she had at one time with in a timeframe in her mind he could be the daddy.  She would tell him about Caylee and that she was missing.  That she had been through hell and she needed to tell someone that could understand her...take care of her. If Caylee is gone she has no child to prove paternity and with her parents like they are...she would have left with this guy and never come back.  She was looking for a way out...in her mind...it was a possibility that he might buy her story and take her in...he had the means to support her and she would be far away from the mess she is in now.  If she knew she could not claim him the father of Caylee...she could then tell him any story she wanted and he would be at her mercy to believe it for the time being.  She was looking to hook up with Hawkins for shelter and food and nothing else.  MOO
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« Reply #1726 on: August 26, 2008, 03:29:55 PM »

After 3 hours of time you could have taught a monkey how to remember a "story".  The LE needs to arrest the parents for atleast obstruction of justice!

Also, didn't Cindy tell Amy when she called her that Casey was "in a lot of trouble" and that she could go to jail if she didn't find her? How would she know that? Was was she talking about? It had to be something from the car.

In the back of her mind...Cindy knew something bad was going on...but I think when she talked to Amy she just thought that they had run off and Casey was pulling one of her stunts again...also she was using the term "in a lot of trouble" to get Amy's cooperation. 
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« Reply #1727 on: August 26, 2008, 03:29:55 PM »

Hello Monkeys,

I did a terrible, terrible thing last night and I've just been SICK about it.  SICK!  My daughter just turned 18.  She is a high school drop out and a mother of a one year old (the little monkey you see above).  My daughter is a habitual liar and cannot take care of her daughter alone.  They live with me.  The longer this story about Caylee goes on, and the more lies my daughter tells me, the sicker I get worrying about my granddaughter.  I KNOW my daughter would never do anything to hurt her child, but the lies she is telling remind me so much of Casey that I actually told my daughter last night that she reminded me of Casey and I was in fear for Avery's life.  I was upset and blowing things out of proportion but I am so sick of her stupid lies and laziness!  I wanted to physically slap my daughter in the face but I think my words hurt 100 times more.  I'm ashamed of myself for losing control and saying such horrible things to her.  I just want her to wake up and take a good hard look at what she is doing (and not doing) and grow up A LOT.  I am very likely going to petition for temporary guardianship of my granddaughter so I feel I have more control over what happens with her.  I have no intentions of taking Avery away from my daughter.  I just want to be in charge since I am footing the bill for EVERYTHING.  I give her most of her baths, buy all of her clothes, food, milk, baby paraphernalia, etc.

I know this is way off topic.  I just needed to get this off of my chest.  Thanks.

My Advice is to tell your daughter she doesn't have to lie to you.
You will help her in anyway you can.
What does she need.
 What does she want from you.
As long as she checks in with you.you will help her.
Tell her to take some time off ,and go play with her friends  and you will take over for a while and be the Mommy since you are anyway.

No more lies she can do what ever she wants as long as she tells you the truth you will be on her side.

Thust me, a bird held in open hands has no reason to fly, trap her and she might leave with your grandbaby with her.

I have been down this road.



PS I was a very bad child  when I was 16-18  years old .
I lied, snuck out of the house.
I was very mean.
Hung out with all the wrong crowd .
I never did drugs or got drunk because that would control me and I could not be controled by anything . Does that make sense?


I could tell you stories, but as soon as I got out of  my parents house to marry and get free of this crap It got worse.
 I married one of my boyfriends he beat me every day of my life with him
I married him to escape my parents haha for me.
I lived in HELL, he broke my nose ,and my jaw.
After my daughter was born he still beat me untill I got some balls and hit him back with a baseball bat.
he was 6' I am 5' I thought it was fair.
Then I left his ass .Also had him arrested.
 Now  my daughter and I were FREE .
The price some of us do for freedom.

Don't let her do what I did marry the wrong guy jusy to get out .
Good Luck





They had a trapped me . Your daughter feels traped give her the space and she will change on her own I did.


Blonde, I would never fight you, I might lose!!!

Be tough, we all have to be at times. It's this damn case. My daughter's 27th birthday was Sunday. She and her friends went out Friday. They had photos much like Casey's. She is a good girl, not married, no children, college grad, doin' the right thing. But those pictures tore me apart. I hope I hid my emotions because she is young and we are all young once. I was ashamed of how I felt. She is a normal child. Not a drunk or a druggie. This case is beginning to take a toll on me.

Thanks for the advice, Blonde.  I was a handful myself when I was a teenager...then I joined the Navy.  Now I'm well behaved but have a sailor's mouth...haha.  I just got off the phone with  my daughter who is on her way to talk to an Air Force Reserve recruiter.  I think the military would do her a lot of good but you cannot go active duty as a single parent.  She can still join the reserves, and I believe that would go a long way in helping her with self-discipline and self-assurance. 

About Casey's party pictures...lots of good kids have the same kinds of parties and pictures and have perfectly normal and accomplished lives.  The fact that Casey was praying to the porcelain God on her 21st birthday does not in itself cause me to believe she was a bad parent.  The Mountain Brook students had plenty of party pictures on the web too, but that doesn't mean they are bad kids.  As parents, those pictures can be vary painful.  All we can do is hope and pray that they have learned the lessons we have tried to teach them and that they can and will be in control of themselves and safe at all times.
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« Reply #1728 on: August 26, 2008, 03:36:00 PM »

Thoughts


Blonde - refresh my memory on who the guy on the left is.  They do have similar chins, IMO.

The boyfriend who died. J ?
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« Reply #1729 on: August 26, 2008, 03:43:11 PM »

Is Jesus Ortiz  Hispanic?


Nope, I am sticking with JP...put them side by side and see who looks like Caylee...
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« Reply #1730 on: August 26, 2008, 03:43:44 PM »

Thoughts


Blonde - refresh my memory on who the guy on the left is.  They do have similar chins, IMO.

The boyfriend who died. J ?

OK, so that's Jose Ortiz, the one who died in May 2007.  I do see some resemblance.  I also believe that the family is having the DNA checked for a match to Caylee.  If Caylee is their grandchild they want to know.
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« Reply #1731 on: August 26, 2008, 03:47:07 PM »

Could the parents of Jesus sue for wrongful death if they can prove Caylee was his child?  Casey said the father was dead...so did Cindy.  This could get even more complicated as time goes by.
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« Reply #1732 on: August 26, 2008, 03:49:17 PM »

Hi all,

I don't no how to do the whole side by side comparison but these 2 have the same little mouth thing going on IMO.. He died before Caylee was born and Casey has known him for quite awhile.


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« Reply #1733 on: August 26, 2008, 03:50:49 PM »

In the first call at 8:44 p.m. on July 15, Cindy Anthony asks authorities to arrest her daughter, Casey. In a another call about an hour late, a crying Cindy Anthony says someone has taken her granddaughter. She also tells the 911 dispatcher that "it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."

GEORGE SAYS 8:35 he talks to Cindy
George says when he returns home at 9:50 he asks about cops being called and were told they were called at 8:30pm

And to add SECOND CALL AT 9:41...
Why didn't George mention the second 911 call..CINDY WAS ON THE PHONE WITH 911 WHEN SHE TOLD HIM ABOUT CAYLEE!! REMEMBER HEARING HIM IN THE BACKGROUD SAY WHAT?!

Is he trying to claim that he did not get home till after that call? Was he caught in the background of 911 in a lie??

hey all, I'm back a few pages and I just scanned ahead only one page (I didn't see this mentioned)

BUT ISN'T THIS ABOUT ALL THE PROOF ANYONE NEEDS THAT THE KIDNAPPING STORY WAS CONCOCTED IN A ONE HOUR OR SO PERIOD?

LOOKS TO ME LIKE THEY ARE ALL IN ON IT.
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« Reply #1734 on: August 26, 2008, 03:52:25 PM »

Hi all,

I don't no how to do the whole side by side comparison but these 2 have the same little mouth thing going on IMO.. He died before Caylee was born and Casey has known him for quite awhile.




Hi Kristin - who is this guy?  He looks a bit like Hawkins and Hawkins is very much alive.  Can you tell me where you found this photo or give us a link?
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« Reply #1735 on: August 26, 2008, 03:54:01 PM »

where is the Flordia business search site again??

www.sunbiz.org

Thanks what do you know about
Dancers Royale
5221 E Colonial Dr
I just was searching google and on another blog someone asked if "LAKE VAJ" is associated/works for that club...


  http://www.myspace.com/lakevaj1 






    Lake Vaj's Interests
General   making people have fun!!!!!!!!! getting people drunk!!!!!!
Music   all
Movies   porn
Television   late night hbo,ufc
Books   porn,minitruckin
Heroes   porn stars,all troops
Groups:    Big Ten Crew

View All Lake Vaj's Groups


     Lake Vaj's Details
Status:   Swinger
Here for:   Networking, Dating, Serious Relationships, Friends
Orientation:   Straight
Hometown:   lake vaj fl.
Body type:   Body builder
Ethnicity:   Other
Religion:   Christian - other
Zodiac Sign:   Gemini
Smoke / Drink:   No / Yes
Occupation:   pink taco stand
Income:   $250,000 and Higher


   Lake Vaj's Companies
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Lake Vaj, Fl. US
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www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing ____ (Casey- mom)




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the party was great, as always!
i ♥ lake vaj






Hi Monkeys!  There is something in the info above I wanted to make sure you all caught. It's really GROSS, and I am embarrassed to write this but Im gonna because it's probably a simple thing but tends to add credance to what we're thinking regarding this person.
Above, under Lake Vaj's Details...Under occupation.  Ummmmm...could be interpreted as a place to obtain sex with a female...um, yeah...LOLOL...you all get the picture I hope? Over my numerous years I have heard a certain part of the female anatomy referred to as that. OK, yes I am  Embarassed   pale   
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« Reply #1736 on: August 26, 2008, 03:54:01 PM »

God bless you as you go through this time with your daughter.

It is very hard for a parent to know what to do in that situation.  Should you be tough or tender?  should you insist on some things or just let her fend for herself?

Tell your daughter you love her and let her have some freedom that she apparently wants.

Tell her she will need to make up her mind in the next six months or year if she wants to be a mom or not.

And then pray she uses her freedom as a learning experience and realizes she is very lucky to have you to support and help her.

That is about all you can do.  Temporary custody sounds reasonable, if she will go along with it.

You should not feel guilty.  You have had a lot dropped in your lap.  If you cannot communicate with her without arguing, let someone else be the go-between...your husband, a friend, a lawyer. 

Don't build up a lot of angry words on both sides.

That is my best advice.  Hope it works.

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« Reply #1737 on: August 26, 2008, 03:54:15 PM »

In the first call at 8:44 p.m. on July 15, Cindy Anthony asks authorities to arrest her daughter, Casey. In a another call about an hour late, a crying Cindy Anthony says someone has taken her granddaughter. She also tells the 911 dispatcher that "it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."

GEORGE SAYS 8:35 he talks to Cindy
George says when he returns home at 9:50 he asks about cops being called and were told they were called at 8:30pm

And to add SECOND CALL AT 9:41...
Why didn't George mention the second 911 call..CINDY WAS ON THE PHONE WITH 911 WHEN SHE TOLD HIM ABOUT CAYLEE!! REMEMBER HEARING HIM IN THE BACKGROUD SAY WHAT?!

Is he trying to claim that he did not get home till after that call? Was he caught in the background of 911 in a lie??

hey all, I'm back a few pages and I just scanned ahead only one page (I didn't see this mentioned)

BUT ISN'T THIS ABOUT ALL THE PROOF ANYONE NEEDS THAT THE KIDNAPPING STORY WAS CONCOCTED IN A ONE HOUR OR SO PERIOD?

LOOKS TO ME LIKE THEY ARE ALL IN ON IT                    Have to think about this for a bit.....
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« Reply #1738 on: August 26, 2008, 03:55:21 PM »

Rob - none of my business question - how old is your daughter??
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« Reply #1739 on: August 26, 2008, 03:55:58 PM »

Rob - none of my business question - how old is your daughter??

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