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Question: After the 400+ document release - what is your current opinion?
Casey killed Caylee by accident or intentionally - 75 (89.3%)
Casey gave Caylee away to friends & knows where she is - 2 (2.4%)
Casey gave Caylee away to strangers & doesn't know where she is - 4 (4.8%)
Some unknown person stole Caylee from Casey - 0 (0%)
Someone else killed Caylee & Casey is covering for them - 3 (3.6%)
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« Reply #520 on: August 24, 2008, 08:45:02 PM »

where is the Flordia business search site again??

www.sunbiz.org

Thanks what do you know about
Dancers Royale
5221 E Colonial Dr
I just was searching google and on another blog someone asked if "LAKE VAJ" is associated/works for that club...


  http://www.myspace.com/lakevaj1 






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Income:   $250,000 and Higher


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« Reply #521 on: August 24, 2008, 08:45:30 PM »

I think that is a highly possible theory and you may have something... I heard a statistic that murdered/missing people are normally tossed into ditches along the highway... I know those two girls that were stabbed 5 times each were tossed into a ditch... and that guy that beat his own son to death did it in a ditch...  I have been driving around while the ditches are full of water looking. for floating trash bags, clothing, etc.

I do not want to disclose a day or time but I will do a search of the area within a 1 mile radius.

Thanks Joseph.

Should TES get involved - I will come down from PA to help anyway I can.

I have left messages for Cindy to call Tim.... but she has not returned any of my phone calls....
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« Reply #522 on: August 24, 2008, 08:45:42 PM »

Joseph,

If you don't mind my asking....what made you decide to check Moss Park?

TIA

It is heavily wooded in some sections... it is 1500 acres, with an 1800 acre park backed up against it.  It is in the vicinity of the airport and it only took me 6 minutes from the area of the Anthony house.  I was driving in the area to see what would feel normal to drive to.  There is playground equipment there.... I figured... we searched heavily near the car location, now we need to focus on the opposite end of town and the cell phone pings.  I wish I had a more definitive location of these pings, but it has not been released as far as I know.   I used to live off of Narcoosee road where Lee Vista meets.... now my house is a home depot Sad  I used to play in the woods and in the lakes....  so I figured I would drive around a little bit and see what was around now... and maybe find a good location to search.

Your thinking is right on! I used to live off Goldenrod. When I was Casey's age we'd go to the beach via 50. Bithlo has been in my mind as a place of interest. What are your thoughts? I'm serious when I say I'll come and help you, I'll bring help as well. Thank you for the guts to take this on....I don't think people get the full extent of the "landscape" you've been up against. Please let me know if or how I can help. 

Send me an e-mail regarding searching... joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com

I have lived off Narcoosee and Lee Vista Road... as well as Goldenrod and Bates Road.  These two areas are so close... I too used to drive to the beach via 50 and sr-520....

The landscape is nuts... we had a girl that almost had an alligator experience...

OHMYGAWD...I thought I was just morbid...but I thought what if casey threw her body where the alligators would get it...I think I am going to be sick......
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« Reply #523 on: August 24, 2008, 08:46:34 PM »

The fact that the one top has white piping on it does not bother me, the black tank top seems to be a part of her uniform.  And if she's into polka dots, it doesnt matter if they match.  The other colors corrrespond to colors she seems to pick out for herself and Caylee.
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« Reply #524 on: August 24, 2008, 08:46:50 PM »

where is the Flordia business search site again??

www.sunbiz.org

Thanks what do you know about
Dancers Royale
5221 E Colonial Dr
I just was searching google and on another blog someone asked if "LAKE VAJ" is associated/works for that club...


  http://www.myspace.com/lakevaj1 






    Lake Vaj's Interests
General   making people have fun!!!!!!!!! getting people drunk!!!!!!
Music   all
Movies   porn
Television   late night hbo,ufc
Books   porn,minitruckin
Heroes   porn stars,all troops
Groups:    Big Ten Crew

View All Lake Vaj's Groups


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Here for:   Networking, Dating, Serious Relationships, Friends
Orientation:   Straight
Hometown:   lake vaj fl.
Body type:   Body builder
Ethnicity:   Other
Religion:   Christian - other
Zodiac Sign:   Gemini
Smoke / Drink:   No / Yes
Occupation:   pink taco stand
Income:   $250,000 and Higher


   Lake Vaj's Companies
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Lake Vaj, Fl. US
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One of Lake Vaj's friends is Dancer Royale.... and it is his number 3.... I think they posted a comment on his page as welll...
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« Reply #525 on: August 24, 2008, 08:47:29 PM »

Welcome Joseph and thanks for sharing the photos and your knowledge of the case.

I have a question -

Have you and your searchers covered the areas around the Sawgrass Apartments? There is a lake / pond in the nearby vicinity. 

In my opinion, a person (Casey) who is actually giving you (me and everyone else) a possibly location - needs to be investigated further.

I think there is a chance Casey has told us where to find the body of Caylee and she even says so in many of her comments.

any thoughts or comments?



I only drove around Lake Conway... it is heavily populated.  There are however islands in the lake that would require a boat to go to... so I don't know... I do believe that this Lake Vaj guy is involved some how.... him or Derrick Williams.   I do believe this area is an area of interest.  I just can't find a location that we haven't looked at already that you could dump a body... if she is there.... she's in an apartment with a scum bag... because that apartment complex is crime central.

Joseph, I don't think you need an area of total obscurity to hide a 2 - 3 year old.

She could literally be hidden in plain sight. I know that sounds odd, but a little girl the size of Caylee would not need to be hidden at all. At least not hidden as someone might hide the body of an adult.

My personal belief is that Casey wanted the body found and was going to pin the crimes on someone else - possibly Zenaida. In order for there to be a fall person - the body needs to be found.

Of course there is the possibility that Casey moved the body after her plan did not go as she envisioned. So, in a sense the body was at or near Sawgrass and she moved the body in the trunk of the car to a new location.

I believe in order for Casey to use the Sawgrass apartents - the body needs to be relatively nearby - with in a one mile radius.

I also think there is a very good possibly the body is not hidden at all - but just slightly concealed - and someone will turn over a tarp or a box - and there will be Caylee.

I think that is a highly possible theory and you may have something... I heard a statistic that murdered/missing people are normally tossed into ditches along the highway... I know those two girls that were stabbed 5 times each were tossed into a ditch... and that guy that beat his own son to death did it in a ditch...  I have been driving around while the ditches are full of water looking. for floating trash bags, clothing, etc.

I do not want to disclose a day or time but I will do a search of the area within a 1 mile radius. 

Rob,

The only thing I an say is that the area you are talking about is either high traffic (easy to be seen if dumping a body) or complete backwoods. If she waited to be inconspicuous (sp) than it is entirely possible. BUT, that area she'd definitely have to wait for a lull in "traffic" (car or foot). I am still inclined with the theory that Casey wants her found. I just don't know where that perfect spot would be (in Casey's mind)
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« Reply #526 on: August 24, 2008, 08:47:47 PM »

where is the Flordia business search site again??

www.sunbiz.org

Thanks what do you know about
Dancers Royale
5221 E Colonial Dr
I just was searching google and on another blog someone asked if "LAKE VAJ" is associated/works for that club...


  http://www.myspace.com/lakevaj1 






    Lake Vaj's Interests
General   making people have fun!!!!!!!!! getting people drunk!!!!!!
Music   all
Movies   porn
Television   late night hbo,ufc
Books   porn,minitruckin
Heroes   porn stars,all troops
Groups:    Big Ten Crew

View All Lake Vaj's Groups


     Lake Vaj's Details
Status:   Swinger
Here for:   Networking, Dating, Serious Relationships, Friends
Orientation:   Straight
Hometown:   lake vaj fl.
Body type:   Body builder
Ethnicity:   Other
Religion:   Christian - other
Zodiac Sign:   Gemini
Smoke / Drink:   No / Yes
Occupation:   pink taco stand
Income:   $250,000 and Higher


   Lake Vaj's Companies
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Lake Vaj, Fl. US
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« Reply #527 on: August 24, 2008, 08:48:01 PM »

That pic was blown up here is the original...It is said that Casey is in Black Melinda in white dress up front....Trenton is said to be on right hand side blue shirt but I cannot for the life of me blow it up to get a clear pic...So I am not sure
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« Reply #528 on: August 24, 2008, 08:50:08 PM »

What type of function is this pics from?
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« Reply #529 on: August 24, 2008, 08:50:12 PM »

Joseph,

If you don't mind my asking....what made you decide to check Moss Park?

TIA

It is heavily wooded in some sections... it is 1500 acres, with an 1800 acre park backed up against it.  It is in the vicinity of the airport and it only took me 6 minutes from the area of the Anthony house.  I was driving in the area to see what would feel normal to drive to.  There is playground equipment there.... I figured... we searched heavily near the car location, now we need to focus on the opposite end of town and the cell phone pings.  I wish I had a more definitive location of these pings, but it has not been released as far as I know.   I used to live off of Narcoosee road where Lee Vista meets.... now my house is a home depot Sad  I used to play in the woods and in the lakes....  so I figured I would drive around a little bit and see what was around now... and maybe find a good location to search.

Your thinking is right on! I used to live off Goldenrod. When I was Casey's age we'd go to the beach via 50. Bithlo has been in my mind as a place of interest. What are your thoughts? I'm serious when I say I'll come and help you, I'll bring help as well. Thank you for the guts to take this on....I don't think people get the full extent of the "landscape" you've been up against. Please let me know if or how I can help. 

Send me an e-mail regarding searching... joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com

I have lived off Narcoosee and Lee Vista Road... as well as Goldenrod and Bates Road.  These two areas are so close... I too used to drive to the beach via 50 and sr-520....

The landscape is nuts... we had a girl that almost had an alligator experience...

OHMYGAWD...I thought I was just morbid...but I thought what if casey threw her body where the alligators would get it...I think I am going to be sick......

We have discussed that possibility... there ahve been many claims that an alligator will not eat a dead carcus... but if you've ever been to Gator Land off sr-50.... they feed them dead animals all the time... and all you have to do is drive along any florida road near water or a lake... and you will see gators... also youc an just throw stuff over the fence at Gatorland... that is absolutely a possibility.... in fact, I saw an Orange County air boat out on the St. Johns river off of sr-50 near brevard county on my way home one evening....
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« Reply #530 on: August 24, 2008, 08:52:08 PM »

Joseph do you have a public email people can contact you at I will send the report

joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com

joseph....thank you so much for what you are doing....if I could I'd be there with you....did you or do you know if anyone mailed the lead investigator those pictures of casey in the polka dot underwear???

I sent it to Capt. Angelo Nieves... but go ahead and send it to the lead... I did not do that...

Oh I am not that computer savvy...ROB....Carpe???? 

I will send it... but I looked through my e-mail and Capt. Angelo Nieves wrote me back and said he would forward to the detectives on the case.

thanks....but if I were you I'd send it just to be sure it gets there quickly via email...
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« Reply #531 on: August 24, 2008, 08:54:12 PM »

Joseph do you have a public email people can contact you at I will send the report

joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com

joseph....thank you so much for what you are doing....if I could I'd be there with you....did you or do you know if anyone mailed the lead investigator those pictures of casey in the polka dot underwear???

I sent it to Capt. Angelo Nieves... but go ahead and send it to the lead... I did not do that...

Oh I am not that computer savvy...ROB....Carpe???? 

I will send it... but I looked through my e-mail and Capt. Angelo Nieves wrote me back and said he would forward to the detectives on the case.

Joseph...sorry I jumped around so much today trying to get caught up...so if you answered this already please forgive me...I know you contacted the police about your findings today....and contacted the LE...how long did it take them to get there???
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« Reply #532 on: August 24, 2008, 08:56:17 PM »

Joseph,

If you don't mind my asking....what made you decide to check Moss Park?

TIA

It is heavily wooded in some sections... it is 1500 acres, with an 1800 acre park backed up against it.  It is in the vicinity of the airport and it only took me 6 minutes from the area of the Anthony house.  I was driving in the area to see what would feel normal to drive to.  There is playground equipment there.... I figured... we searched heavily near the car location, now we need to focus on the opposite end of town and the cell phone pings.  I wish I had a more definitive location of these pings, but it has not been released as far as I know.   I used to live off of Narcoosee road where Lee Vista meets.... now my house is a home depot Sad  I used to play in the woods and in the lakes....  so I figured I would drive around a little bit and see what was around now... and maybe find a good location to search.

Your thinking is right on! I used to live off Goldenrod. When I was Casey's age we'd go to the beach via 50. Bithlo has been in my mind as a place of interest. What are your thoughts? I'm serious when I say I'll come and help you, I'll bring help as well. Thank you for the guts to take this on....I don't think people get the full extent of the "landscape" you've been up against. Please let me know if or how I can help. 

Send me an e-mail regarding searching... joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com

I have lived off Narcoosee and Lee Vista Road... as well as Goldenrod and Bates Road.  These two areas are so close... I too used to drive to the beach via 50 and sr-520....

The landscape is nuts... we had a girl that almost had an alligator experience...

OHMYGAWD...I thought I was just morbid...but I thought what if casey threw her body where the alligators would get it...I think I am going to be sick......

We have discussed that possibility... there ahve been many claims that an alligator will not eat a dead carcus... but if you've ever been to Gator Land off sr-50.... they feed them dead animals all the time... and all you have to do is drive along any florida road near water or a lake... and you will see gators... also youc an just throw stuff over the fence at Gatorland... that is absolutely a possibility.... in fact, I saw an Orange County air boat out on the St. Johns river off of sr-50 near brevard county on my way home one evening....

Local legend has it that the best way to dispose of a body is to leave it in an alligator infested area. Lake Jessup in Orl. at one time was a lake that "nuisance" gators were released too. Nuisance as in NO FEAR of humans. In a case awhile back a man was convicted for killing a young mother and dropping her body and young child on Alligator alley. If memory serves there were gator bites on the Mom.
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« Reply #533 on: August 24, 2008, 08:56:49 PM »

I don't know how acurate this info is; I found it at: http://www.kateperry.com/blog/craft/murder.writeback


"I'm so happy for you! Your first murder! Will you teach me how? I suggest watching Forensic Files for ideas on how to get rid of a body. The murderer always get's caught, of course, but I'm amazed by the things they come up with. My all time favorite way to dispose of a dead body is from the F/X show Nip/Tuck (which everyone should watch). They live in Miami, so they tie slabs of ham to the dead bodies and throw them in the swamp. Apparently alligators aren't attracted to dead human flesh, but if you tie a bunch of ham to it, they'll get excited and just go ahead and eat the dead guy too. It's perfect--no chance of the body popping up later on. So how about some alligators, Kate?"


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« Reply #534 on: August 24, 2008, 08:59:53 PM »

Joseph do you have a public email people can contact you at I will send the report

joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com

joseph....thank you so much for what you are doing....if I could I'd be there with you....did you or do you know if anyone mailed the lead investigator those pictures of casey in the polka dot underwear???

I sent it to Capt. Angelo Nieves... but go ahead and send it to the lead... I did not do that...

Oh I am not that computer savvy...ROB....Carpe???? 

I will send it... but I looked through my e-mail and Capt. Angelo Nieves wrote me back and said he would forward to the detectives on the case.

Joseph...sorry I jumped around so much today trying to get caught up...so if you answered this already please forgive me...I know you contacted the police about your findings today....and contacted the LE...how long did it take them to get there???

15 - 30 minutes.  We did not call the tip line, we called the non emergency line...
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« Reply #535 on: August 24, 2008, 09:01:10 PM »

Joseph,

If you don't mind my asking....what made you decide to check Moss Park?

TIA

It is heavily wooded in some sections... it is 1500 acres, with an 1800 acre park backed up against it.  It is in the vicinity of the airport and it only took me 6 minutes from the area of the Anthony house.  I was driving in the area to see what would feel normal to drive to.  There is playground equipment there.... I figured... we searched heavily near the car location, now we need to focus on the opposite end of town and the cell phone pings.  I wish I had a more definitive location of these pings, but it has not been released as far as I know.   I used to live off of Narcoosee road where Lee Vista meets.... now my house is a home depot Sad  I used to play in the woods and in the lakes....  so I figured I would drive around a little bit and see what was around now... and maybe find a good location to search.

Your thinking is right on! I used to live off Goldenrod. When I was Casey's age we'd go to the beach via 50. Bithlo has been in my mind as a place of interest. What are your thoughts? I'm serious when I say I'll come and help you, I'll bring help as well. Thank you for the guts to take this on....I don't think people get the full extent of the "landscape" you've been up against. Please let me know if or how I can help. 

Send me an e-mail regarding searching... joseph.jordan@josephsjordan.com

I have lived off Narcoosee and Lee Vista Road... as well as Goldenrod and Bates Road.  These two areas are so close... I too used to drive to the beach via 50 and sr-520....

The landscape is nuts... we had a girl that almost had an alligator experience...

OHMYGAWD...I thought I was just morbid...but I thought what if casey threw her body where the alligators would get it...I think I am going to be sick......

We have discussed that possibility... there ahve been many claims that an alligator will not eat a dead carcus... but if you've ever been to Gator Land off sr-50.... they feed them dead animals all the time... and all you have to do is drive along any florida road near water or a lake... and you will see gators... also youc an just throw stuff over the fence at Gatorland... that is absolutely a possibility.... in fact, I saw an Orange County air boat out on the St. Johns river off of sr-50 near brevard county on my way home one evening....

Local legend has it that the best way to dispose of a body is to leave it in an alligator infested area. Lake Jessup in Orl. at one time was a lake that "nuisance" gators were released too. Nuisance as in NO FEAR of humans. In a case awhile back a man was convicted for killing a young mother and dropping her body and young child on Alligator alley. If memory serves there were gator bites on the Mom.


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florida adventure.com has some interesting info on gators.. please be careful out there joseph. please.
archives...gator park..  i have the link right here if you want it.. it is scarey.
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« Reply #536 on: August 24, 2008, 09:01:12 PM »

What type of function is this pics from?

I am not sure somebody gave it to me saying they were sure it was Casey it kinda looks like it then again you really can't tell.Does anyone have any idea how to make it bigger?? I have tried every program i know
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« Reply #537 on: August 24, 2008, 09:01:35 PM »



The landscape is nuts... we had a girl that almost had an alligator experience...

OHMYGAWD...I thought I was just morbid...but I thought what if casey threw her body where the alligators would get it...I think I am going to be sick......

We have discussed that possibility... there ahve been many claims that an alligator will not eat a dead carcus... but if you've ever been to Gator Land off sr-50.... they feed them dead animals all the time... and all you have to do is drive along any florida road near water or a lake... and you will see gators... also youc an just throw stuff over the fence at Gatorland... that is absolutely a possibility.... in fact, I saw an Orange County air boat out on the St. Johns river off of sr-50 near brevard county on my way home one evening....

oh I just pray this is NOT the case...it really makes me physically ill to even have that thought in my head...
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« Reply #538 on: August 24, 2008, 09:03:07 PM »

I don't know how acurate this info is; I found it at: http://www.kateperry.com/blog/craft/murder.writeback


"I'm so happy for you! Your first murder! Will you teach me how? I suggest watching Forensic Files for ideas on how to get rid of a body. The murderer always get's caught, of course, but I'm amazed by the things they come up with. My all time favorite way to dispose of a dead body is from the F/X show Nip/Tuck (which everyone should watch). They live in Miami, so they tie slabs of ham to the dead bodies and throw them in the swamp. Apparently alligators aren't attracted to dead human flesh, but if you tie a bunch of ham to it, they'll get excited and just go ahead and eat the dead guy too. It's perfect--no chance of the body popping up later on. So how about some alligators, Kate?"




I think they used the ham to be SURE. If I were to dispose of a body, that's what I'd do.......God forgive me.
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« Reply #539 on: August 24, 2008, 09:04:58 PM »


The landscape is nuts... we had a girl that almost had an alligator experience...

OHMYGAWD...I thought I was just morbid...but I thought what if casey threw her body where the alligators would get it...I think I am going to be sick......

We have discussed that possibility... there ahve been many claims that an alligator will not eat a dead carcus... but if you've ever been to Gator Land off sr-50.... they feed them dead animals all the time... and all you have to do is drive along any florida road near water or a lake... and you will see gators... also youc an just throw stuff over the fence at Gatorland... that is absolutely a possibility.... in fact, I saw an Orange County air boat out on the St. Johns river off of sr-50 near brevard county on my way home one evening....

Local legend has it that the best way to dispose of a body is to leave it in an alligator infested area. Lake Jessup in Orl. at one time was a lake that "nuisance" gators were released too. Nuisance as in NO FEAR of humans. In a case awhile back a man was convicted for killing a young mother and dropping her body and young child on Alligator alley. If memory serves there were gator bites on the Mom.

OH CRAP!!!!
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Rest in Peace Caylee
Natalee, We will never forget.
Zahra, run with the Angels

PUT ON YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES AND GET OVER IT!  It's not about you or me.....It's about the Missing and the Murdered
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