Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #8

[ldstlou]

Hey Monkeys...you have been busy!!

Well?  What happened?

Yes what happened with Mr. Sperm?  Did he swim out to sea.......

It was bad...really bad. He is clueless. Can't talk yet or I will cry. I am telling you...if he gets visitation...it would be like sending my Monkey off with Casey. I just hope the Judge sees that. We have to go to court.

He is such a selfish pig...it is all about him...nothing about Nicholas...he just wants "control"

If need us to help you let us know.  I am free to listen...email me cindoal@yahoo.com.

can I call you? I really need to talk. Can I email you my number or you e-mail me yours?

[da_wench]

Hello Monkeys,

I did a terrible, terrible thing last night and I've just been SICK about it.  SICK!  My daughter just turned 18.  She is a high school drop out and a mother of a one year old (the little monkey you see above).  My daughter is a habitual liar and cannot take care of her daughter alone.  They live with me.  The longer this story about Caylee goes on, and the more lies my daughter tells me, the sicker I get worrying about my granddaughter.  I KNOW my daughter would never do anything to hurt her child, but the lies she is telling remind me so much of Casey that I actually told my daughter last night that she reminded me of Casey and I was in fear for Avery's life.  I was upset and blowing things out of proportion but I am so sick of her stupid lies and laziness!  I wanted to physically slap my daughter in the face but I think my words hurt 100 times more.  I'm ashamed of myself for losing control and saying such horrible things to her.  I just want her to wake up and take a good hard look at what she is doing (and not doing) and grow up A LOT.  I am very likely going to petition for temporary guardianship of my granddaughter so I feel I have more control over what happens with her.  I have no intentions of taking Avery away from my daughter.  I just want to be in charge since I am footing the bill for EVERYTHING.  I give her most of her baths, buy all of her clothes, food, milk, baby paraphenalia, etc.

I know this is way off topic.  I just needed to get this off of my chest.  Thanks.

[Lala'sMom]

IMO NO WAY

I am sticking with J.P. for now...do the DNA on him too.

Do we know when she dated Hawkins? Was that in the right time frame for him to be Caylee's dad?

I think knowing who the father is would be important to LE. Goes to motive and such.  When did Casey first renew her friendship with Hawkins?  LE needs DNA from him for sure and all the others too.  I have a different theory about Casey and this guy though.

[Lala'sMom]

Hey Monkeys...you have been busy!!

Well?  What happened?

Yes what happened with Mr. Sperm?  Did he swim out to sea.......

It was bad...really bad. He is clueless. Can't talk yet or I will cry. I am telling you...if he gets visitation...it would be like sending my Monkey off with Casey. I just hope the Judge sees that. We have to go to court.

He is such a selfish pig...it is all about him...nothing about Nicholas...he just wants "control"

If need us to help you let us know.  I am free to listen...email me cindoal@yahoo.com.

can I call you? I really need to talk. Can I email you my number or you e-mail me yours?

Sure...

[Puzzler]

OK, so 13:55 on July 15th is the date and time the car was picked up from the impound lot.  Do we know what time the first 911 call was made?  If anyone finds that can they let me know where please?

Don't know if my thinking this fits in here somehow how is correct or not, but:

Cindy said she drove to the police station but that it was closed; said she was unaware that the police station closed at 5:30.  Cindy called the police and said she had someone (Casey) in her car that she needed to report for stealing her car and that the police station is closed.

Klaas, I got 8:44pm and 9:41pm for the calls from home
http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547

Thanks - so it took them from 1:55pm to 8:44pm to contact police EVEN though the car smelled the way it did.  How much cleaning up did Cindy and George do prior to calling 911?

Now I'd like to find out what time they actually picked Casey up from Tony's house.

Amy went with Cindy to get Casey...Cindy called her around 5 p.m. and told her she would come get her at the mall where she was. They went straight to Tony's...so maybe between 6 p.m. and 11 p.m. because Amy mentions 11 o' clock in her statement.

Had to be closer to 6pm if the first 911 call was at 8:44pm. 

OK..so from 1:55pm to at least 5pm so really about 3 hours the car is at the Anthony home and they have time to go through it.

Alright - not sure if I am remembering right or not, but I seem to recall Cindy saying that after she picked up Casey, they went back to the house and talked a while,(seems like a few hours) she even called Lee over to try & get something out of Casey....Or this may have come from Lee stating this...

I do know Lee came over because it was after the first 911 call and before the 3rd call that I believe Cindy overheard Casey tell Lee Caylee was missing.

I'm sorry...I messed up and posted in the middle....here's what I meant to do.

Don't know if my thinking this fits in here somehow how is correct or not, but:

Cindy said she drove to the police station but that it was closed; said she was unaware that the police station closed at 5:30.  Cindy called the police and said she had someone (Casey) in her car that she needed to report for stealing her car and that the police station is closed.

[Blonde]

IMO COULD BE

[da_wench]

Hey Monkeys...you have been busy!!

Well?  What happened?

Yes what happened with Mr. Sperm?  Did he swim out to sea.......

It was bad...really bad. He is clueless. Can't talk yet or I will cry. I am telling you...if he gets visitation...it would be like sending my Monkey off with Casey. I just hope the Judge sees that. We have to go to court.

He is such a selfish pig...it is all about him...nothing about Nicholas...he just wants "control"

If need us to help you let us know.  I am free to listen...email me cindoal@yahoo.com.

can I call you? I really need to talk. Can I email you my number or you e-mail me yours?

I feel your pain, Lou.  I know your little man needs a daddy in his life (they all do), but no child needs a parent who only thinks of him or herself.  I will pray that your son gets everything he needs and nothing but love and protection from both parents.

[BTgirl]

Hello Monkeys,

I did a terrible, terrible thing last night and I've just been SICK about it.  SICK!  My daughter just turned 18.  She is a high school drop out and a mother of a one year old (the little monkey you see above).  My daughter is a habitual liar and cannot take care of her daughter alone.  They live with me.  The longer this story about Caylee goes on, and the more lies my daughter tells me, the sicker I get worrying about my granddaughter.  I KNOW my daughter would never do anything to hurt her child, but the lies she is telling remind me so much of Casey that I actually told my daughter last night that she reminded me of Casey and I was in fear for Avery's life.  I was upset and blowing things out of proportion but I am so sick of her stupid lies and laziness!  I wanted to physically slap my daughter in the face but I think my words hurt 100 times more.  I'm ashamed of myself for losing control and saying such horrible things to her.  I just want her to wake up and take a good hard look at what she is doing (and not doing) and grow up A LOT.  I am very likely going to petition for temporary guardianship of my granddaughter so I feel I have more control over what happens with her.  I have no intentions of taking Avery away from my daughter.  I just want to be in charge since I am footing the bill for EVERYTHING.  I give her most of her baths, buy all of her clothes, food, milk, baby paraphenalia, etc.

I know this is way off topic.  I just needed to get this off of my chest.  Thanks.

I think it's a good idea for you to have temporary guardianship. Our program serves a lot of families where the teenage mom and baby live with the grandparent(s) and the grandparent(s) have guardianship. I say go for it.

[da_wench]

Hello Monkeys,

I did a terrible, terrible thing last night and I've just been SICK about it.  SICK!  My daughter just turned 18.  She is a high school drop out and a mother of a one year old (the little monkey you see above).  My daughter is a habitual liar and cannot take care of her daughter alone.  They live with me.  The longer this story about Caylee goes on, and the more lies my daughter tells me, the sicker I get worrying about my granddaughter.  I KNOW my daughter would never do anything to hurt her child, but the lies she is telling remind me so much of Casey that I actually told my daughter last night that she reminded me of Casey and I was in fear for Avery's life.  I was upset and blowing things out of proportion but I am so sick of her stupid lies and laziness!  I wanted to physically slap my daughter in the face but I think my words hurt 100 times more.  I'm ashamed of myself for losing control and saying such horrible things to her.  I just want her to wake up and take a good hard look at what she is doing (and not doing) and grow up A LOT.  I am very likely going to petition for temporary guardianship of my granddaughter so I feel I have more control over what happens with her.  I have no intentions of taking Avery away from my daughter.  I just want to be in charge since I am footing the bill for EVERYTHING.  I give her most of her baths, buy all of her clothes, food, milk, baby paraphenalia, etc.

I know this is way off topic.  I just needed to get this off of my chest.  Thanks.

I think it's a good idea for you to have temporary guardianship. Our program serves a lot of families where the teenage mom and baby live with the grandparent(s) and the grandparent(s) have guardianship. I say go for it.

Both parents will agree to allow me to do this so it won't be a problem.  What program are you referring to?

[Lala'sMom]

Lisa
My Yahoo is down right now...I will get in touch when it comes back up. 

[Dolce]

This Hawkin's guy reminds me of Michael Rappaport.  Something is fishy about him..he looks nothing like Caylee!

[Hudsunn]

I still have not read it all, but man, this is something else.  It proves that the family was and is extremely dysfunctional and I would not rule out anything at this point.

Casey seems to live a life of unreality, of delusions.  But she has plans, lots of plans, all spinning around in her head at the same time.

First, there is the imaginings about the father of Caylee.  I think it is imperative that he be found and that Casey be forced to face that truth, whatever it may be.  Cindy is just as big a liar in this area, and why?  If the guy really wanted no part of the child's life, why lie about him?  If he did want to be part of her life, he has a right to be and Caylee has a right to know him.  This needs to be settled.  I think it is vital to the solving of the case.  And at this point I am open to ANYONE being the father, including George.  All of this subterfuge makes the family a nest of lies and that is part and parcel of incest.  This is pure speculation.  I have no proof.  But the truth could be found out.

Second, Casey's lies about somehow coming into possession of the family home are highly suspect.  Did she covet that home?  One would think if she was unhappy there, she would not want it because of all the memories.  But if she got rid of her parents...or perhaps only of her mother...perhaps it would be different for her.  If I were her parents, I would realize that she wanted me out of her life and out of that house and who knows what lengths she might have gone to to make that happen?

Third, is the story about George cheating on his wife a lie...or is there some truth to it?  This will certainly fuel rumors of an incestuous relationship between George and Casey.  Or perhaps one that she invented in her mind.  We know that George cut the cord at the hospital.  We also know he filed for divorce from Cindy a few months after that.  He did not drop that filing until almost two years had gone by.  So the marriage to Cindy has been rocky and the rockiness intensified after the birth of Caylee.  What about that time period made George file for divorce?  If he moved out of the house, and I presume he did, did he have a girlfriend?  Did he still see Casey and Caylee regularly?  This must be investigated.  What was Casey's relationship with her father?  She told some friends it was not good.

Fourth, is it possible that Casey simply abandoned Caylee somewhere in the wilderness?  She says she worries about what Caylee might be going through.  That does not jive with Cindy's claim that Caylee was with a sitter who loved her and wanted to keep her.  It does jive with a child abandoned in a forest or swamp or even tossed in an ocean or river.  It also would make Casey's answer of not knowing where the child is a true statement.  If she left Caylee somewhere and never returned for her, she could imagine all sorts of things happening or Caylee being a number of places.  That could also be true if she gave Casey to someone she did not know or barely knew.  But one kind of person would be keeping the child now with all this publicity?

It worries me that several of Casey's male party friends boast on their webpages about an interest in porn.  People who frequent porn sites would know all kinds of folks who might want to have a little girl like Caylee.  Would Casey just give her to someone like that?  Maybe in her twisted mind it would be better than having to raise her or letting her parents raise her.  If George had abused Casey, maybe Casey thougtht George would do the same to Caylee.  I am just trying to imagine what her twisted psyche might decide upon.  It is also entirely possible that she might accuse someone of molesting her or Caylee when there was no truth to it.

She clearly was not thinking rationally for a long time.  What does an irrational person do with a child that she does not want?  IMO, Cindy was laying the groundwork to get custody of Caylee.  Cindy was lining up friends of Casey's who would say things against Casey.  Cindy was trying to turn all of Casey's allies to her side.  I think Cindy was preparing to file for custody of Casey and to do it, she needed to inform all of the people who knew Casey that she was a liar, a thief and mentally ill. 

All of this is just my opinion and I could be wrong.

[ldstlou]

Hey Monkeys...you have been busy!!

Well?  What happened?

Yes what happened with Mr. Sperm?  Did he swim out to sea.......

It was bad...really bad. He is clueless. Can't talk yet or I will cry. I am telling you...if he gets visitation...it would be like sending my Monkey off with Casey. I just hope the Judge sees that. We have to go to court.

He is such a selfish pig...it is all about him...nothing about Nicholas...he just wants "control"

If need us to help you let us know.  I am free to listen...email me cindoal@yahoo.com.

can I call you? I really need to talk. Can I email you my number or you e-mail me yours?

I feel your pain, Lou.  I know your little man needs a daddy in his life (they all do), but no child needs a parent who only thinks of him or herself.  I will pray that your son gets everything he needs and nothing but love and protection from both parents.

my guy has great men in his life...all friends, uncles, cousins, coaches, Priests...I have made sure I compensated for my mistake..he does NOT need this guy. Thanks for the prayers.

Lalas...I emailed you my number..I am so sorry for the drama..wow..just got an even worse glimpse of a bad situation though..it has just thrown me.

Oh the sins of a mother!! lol I am suddenly being forced to face a very bad decision I made 8 years ago...but I will face it...I promise!!

Luv ya and pray for my Monkey!!!

[Lala'sMom]

Hello Monkeys,

I did a terrible, terrible thing last night and I've just been SICK about it.  SICK!  My daughter just turned 18.  She is a high school drop out and a mother of a one year old (the little monkey you see above).  My daughter is a habitual liar and cannot take care of her daughter alone.  They live with me.  The longer this story about Caylee goes on, and the more lies my daughter tells me, the sicker I get worrying about my granddaughter.  I KNOW my daughter would never do anything to hurt her child, but the lies she is telling remind me so much of Casey that I actually told my daughter last night that she reminded me of Casey and I was in fear for Avery's life.  I was upset and blowing things out of proportion but I am so sick of her stupid lies and laziness!  I wanted to physically slap my daughter in the face but I think my words hurt 100 times more.  I'm ashamed of myself for losing control and saying such horrible things to her.  I just want her to wake up and take a good hard look at what she is doing (and not doing) and grow up A LOT.  I am very likely going to petition for temporary guardianship of my granddaughter so I feel I have more control over what happens with her.  I have no intentions of taking Avery away from my daughter.  I just want to be in charge since I am footing the bill for EVERYTHING.  I give her most of her baths, buy all of her clothes, food, milk, baby paraphenalia, etc.

I know this is way off topic.  I just needed to get this off of my chest.  Thanks.

I think it's a good idea for you to have temporary guardianship. Our program serves a lot of families where the teenage mom and baby live with the grandparent(s) and the grandparent(s) have guardianship. I say go for it.

Both parents will agree to allow me to do this so it won't be a problem.  What program are you referring to?

Sounds like a plan...you are doing the right thing. 

[ldstlou]

Lisa
My Yahoo is down right now...I will get in touch when it comes back up. 

thank you!!

[Puzzler]

About Caylee's father:  we've heard from Casey's high school mates, friends she's been around since then, parents, uncle, brother and yet not one single person has acknowledged by name just who is Caylee's father.  Surely, over
years, Casey would have told some one who the father is....if she knew. 

I wonder if Casey even knows who's the father!?!  The person who thought he was the father took a DNA test and discovered he wasn't the father.  Caylee sure looks like JP Chatt.  Caylee also looks like George (not saying that George is the father...rather, a familia resemblence).

I can't see Casey giving up an opportunity to obtain some sort of money from the father on a monthly basis (because we now know that Casey is ALL about taking money from others any way she can).

   

[da_wench]

This Hawkin's guy reminds me of Michael Rappaport.  Something is fishy about him..he looks nothing like Caylee!

MR is MUCH better looking, IMO.

[da_wench]

Sounds like a plan...you are doing the right thing. 

Thank you!

[misitx5]

IMO COULD BE

Casey said when cops were interviewing her that she hasn't seen the PATERNAL grandparents since she was 5 or 6...IF that is true it means she would have known the guy for quite a while..

[BTgirl]

Hello Monkeys,

I did a terrible, terrible thing last night and I've just been SICK about it.  SICK!  My daughter just turned 18.  She is a high school drop out and a mother of a one year old (the little monkey you see above).  My daughter is a habitual liar and cannot take care of her daughter alone.  They live with me.  The longer this story about Caylee goes on, and the more lies my daughter tells me, the sicker I get worrying about my granddaughter.  I KNOW my daughter would never do anything to hurt her child, but the lies she is telling remind me so much of Casey that I actually told my daughter last night that she reminded me of Casey and I was in fear for Avery's life.  I was upset and blowing things out of proportion but I am so sick of her stupid lies and laziness!  I wanted to physically slap my daughter in the face but I think my words hurt 100 times more.  I'm ashamed of myself for losing control and saying such horrible things to her.  I just want her to wake up and take a good hard look at what she is doing (and not doing) and grow up A LOT.  I am very likely going to petition for temporary guardianship of my granddaughter so I feel I have more control over what happens with her.  I have no intentions of taking Avery away from my daughter.  I just want to be in charge since I am footing the bill for EVERYTHING.  I give her most of her baths, buy all of her clothes, food, milk, baby paraphenalia, etc.

I know this is way off topic.  I just needed to get this off of my chest.  Thanks.

I think it's a good idea for you to have temporary guardianship. Our program serves a lot of families where the teenage mom and baby live with the grandparent(s) and the grandparent(s) have guardianship. I say go for it.

Both parents will agree to allow me to do this so it won't be a problem.  What program are you referring to?

Head Start. We work with pregnant ladies and families of children birth - five.