Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #9

[fatcatlurker]

Okay, why the holes in the crates you guys are posting???  I was thinking rubbermaid storage??

[ck4]

Klaasend, the blue crate fits in with what Destiny believes, but where did the information come from that Cindy washed the blue crate???  I didnt see that.

Here is how I am taking the "blue crate"

I am thinking it is of the milk crate style, not a box with a lid. That would be way too small and has holes all over.

Could be wrong, just thinking......

I don't remember reading anything about Cindy washing a blue crate.  I also have no idea what LE means by a blue crate.

My idea of a crate

Mine too.

AHHHH.... See I was thinking of the storage types with lid, guess this pic is more of a crate

[always 1]

I looked in the garage at the crates like you are talking about (mine are red) and a 3 year old could sit in one easily with trunk and legs out.

[Rob]

Don't most keyboards have the print screen key? I just use the print screen key on my keyboard  past it on a document then you can open it and paint and so on ...Unless these software programs do much more that I'm not aware of

most paint programs can do this for example



but can not do this



or this



just to give you some examples

by the way - welcome to the SM forum ck4

[mrskub]

WHY Does the OCSO not have the first 911 call listed on their site?

That 1st call went to Orlando PD. It was not their jurisdiction. When Cindy got home she called 911 and it went to OCSD.

[mrskub]

Posted on Topix
Leeniebeenie wrote:
Early this morning I sent Det. Yuri Melich all the links from all the related myspace pages from Kiomarie Torres (she had 3 myspace pages in her name) and the two myspace pages that she set up for her "puppy", her boyfriend's myspace with links to many Universal employees as friends ("Manley" and "Julie") and the biggest COINCIDENCE is her first myspace page references the "baby gurlz she loves Yasmin and Michele", which are the names of the real Zenaida Gonzalez's girls (the one Channel 6 found and interviewed)
I detailed how the 3 women: Kiomarie Torres, Zenaida Gonzales, and Casey Anthony's imaginary "nanny" have many similarities and we know how Casey weaves half-truths and other people's information into her own lies. The Websleuths website was buzzing until the Kiomarie thread was closed by the administrator, and I contacted Trisha and told her about how it appeared that Kiomarie lied to investigators about where she lives (her real address is across the street from Sawgrass Apartments) and she mentions her favorite baby girls are Yasmin and Michele (Zenaida's girls names) and I thought MAYBE KIOMARIE IS A BABYSITTER/NANNY and maybe she watched Caylee for her old friend Casey, and maybe she used to babysit Yasmin and Michele for Zenaida, and MAYBE THAT'S WHERE CASEY CAME ACROSS ZENAIDA'S NAME and invented her imaginary nanny with a little Kiomarie, a little Zenaida, and a lot of BS. No-one could figure out if Zenaida and Kiomarie were actually related, and I wanted to bring the BABYSITTING connection as a very real possibility. Trisha forwarded my "suggestions" to
her connections to follow up, and I took her suggestion and carefully detailed all the connections and coincidences and sent it via email to Det Yuri Melich, and he responded within an hour and thanked me, asked for some further info, and said they are following up on this today.

Here is Kiomarie myspace referencing Yasmin and Michele:
Kiomarie (my baby gurlz) http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...

Here is Kiomarie's most recent myspace
http://www.myspace.com/wickedprincess86

and here is the one she set up for her "puppy" http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...
http://www.myspace.com/misskio

Zenaida Gonzalez myspace (pics of daughters Yasmin and Michele)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...

Jonathan (ZG exboyfriend)http://profile.mys pace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction= user.viewprofile&friendid= 175545982
(friend of Cast Iron Tattoo- same as Casey)

Leeniebeenie wrote:
SOMEONE PLEASE POST THIS FOR ME AT WEBSLEUTHS!!!
KIOMARIE gave Det Wells the wrong address....she lives at Cornerstone Apartments on S, Conway Road, DIRECTLY across the street from Sawgrass Apts, and SHE USED TO BABYSIT FOR Zenaida Gonzalez's two girls, Yasmin and Michele!! This must be where Casey has pulled "Zenaida"out of the air, as well as many other facts that Kiomarie has in her life that Casey has "borrowed" the info to suit her!
I have contacted Law Enforcement and let them know!
PLEASE POST ON WS under KIOMARIE thread~~~

http://www.topix.net/forum/county/orange-fl/T4UHQV6DMIUFOA9C5/p991

Wow I am speechless...

OKAY THOSE LINkS WONT WORK FOR ME HELP! ONLY the DOGS AND THE wickedprincess one work..

Topix seems to be down right now.

[always 1]

What about a doggie crate?   Have you ever seen a blue one?????

[Blonde]

I'm really starting to think that Casey is "outside her mind". Seriously!

I think she has Schizophrenia

Blonde, I have thought that for awhile. From what I understand of Casey she was not like this her whole lifetime. I believe Schizophrenia is a young adult disease that can happen in any family. Such a shame.

I know we do not have the stigma attached to illegitimate children that was in previous years but I really do think it is good for some of these pregnancy's to be given out for adoption. Make some couple happy to have a child. Eveyone wins. JMHO

Just finished the 400 pages and playing catch up here.  One of my younger sisters gave a baby up for adoption.  It was heart wrenching for our family but the attorney said something that made us all feel better and gave my sister a lot of peace of mind.  He said, "You are doing something even God cannot do.  You are giving this family a baby."  It was the best option for all concerned at the time and although she thinks of him often, she has never regretted her decision.  Maybe Caylee would be alive and well today if the family had given that option more consideration.

Da Wench  I absolutely agree that they should have really known the own daughter well enough to know, she WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE having to be responsible for a beautiful little child.  They were just selfish plain and simple.  They should have not tried to change Casey after they already made the monster in the first place.  All they needed to do was (at that point) shut up and let her put Caylee up for adoption.  She would still be alive if that were the case.  They probably thought - this would teach her responsibility.  But let's face it, she was out, partying, spending and stealing money by now.  I really do blame the so-called grown up in most cases.  The writing was certainly on the wall.

Cindy should have taken Caylee and rasied her for her own if she wanted to keep her in the family  so BAD.
Casey  didn't want to be a mom when she was just a child herself and a very spoiled one at that  she had no time to be a Mother.

Never force your kinds to be something their NOT.

[Treehouse]

Klaas, would you please post the link to the 400 documents. I had been linking through the Front Page, but that isn't working for me anymore. Thank you.

Here you go.  Not sure who added these here but they are helpful:

http://www.4shared.com/dir/8947091/c66f208a/sharing.html

Thank you so much.

[lucybelle]

Hello to all old & new monkeys!

My real life has again interfered with my obsession about this innocent missing toddler.  I have been here doing catch up reading all the threads and have read the 400 pages of evidence.

I have from the start believed that Caylee is dead.  I used to feel that if her death was, in any way, an accident that Casey would have immediately called 911 and perversely enjoyed her status as the grieving mother.  But now I wonder... If she didn't murder her child with purpose and the child died from being left in a hot car while Casey was drinking, sleeping, screwing around, smoking dope, doing X, etc., etc. is it possible that she thought she might be prosecuted?  The news has been full of cases where there has been discussion about whether charges would be filed against the person who caused the child's death.  Just last fall that Phoenix AZ Hooter's waitress, Ashley Duchene (also single mom, 22 y/o), was charged with negligent homicide after leaving her 17 month old in a car in the Hooter's parking lot for 7 hours.  Did Casey panic? After all, many hours have passed, the kid is dead and what will everyone think?  Oh my God! I am going to be arrested?, my mother will never forgive me!, and the kid's still dead.  Did she just do what she had been doing for years?   She apparently wove some pretty elaborate tales over the years before and after Caylee's birth.  Just to name a few:  her health, living arrangements, Caylee's father, her education, her job, Caylee's father dying in MVA on way to child's first bday party.  NO ONE EVER CALLED HER OUT ON HER LIES!  She is now an adult and she is one broken human being.  In her fantasy world, she can fix this.  She can take bits and pieces and names and places, and she can lie her way out of this.  Hell, it's always worked for her and besides the kid's still dead and she has to do something. 

I still believe that at sometime she had the body at the Anthony home and in the trunk of her car.  Maybe she was going to bury her on the Anthony property (or behind it somewhere) and changed her mind?  Hence the borrowed shovel and the scent the cadaver dogs hit on.  Maybe she did bury her "close" and TES will find her? 

Man!  My head hurts and my heart hurts worse.  That poor child did not deserve this.  The above is just my opinion and my way of sorting it out.  I'm afraid that is impossible though.  Casey Anthony is one sick narcissistic sociopath.  She will never tell the truth!  I'm not sure what role her crazy parents played (if any) in covering up the death.  They are surely insane by now with all that is going on.  They will probably defend her to the end, after all they always have. 

You monkeys are the greatest!  I am constantly amazed at all the hard work you all do and how much better you guys juggle it with your other (real) lives than I do.  Well, I sure have rambled on...thanks for letting me sprout off.   

[misitx5]

Posted on Topix
Leeniebeenie wrote:
Early this morning I sent Det. Yuri Melich all the links from all the related myspace pages from Kiomarie Torres (she had 3 myspace pages in her name) and the two myspace pages that she set up for her "puppy", her boyfriend's myspace with links to many Universal employees as friends ("Manley" and "Julie") and the biggest COINCIDENCE is her first myspace page references the "baby gurlz she loves Yasmin and Michele", which are the names of the real Zenaida Gonzalez's girls (the one Channel 6 found and interviewed)
I detailed how the 3 women: Kiomarie Torres, Zenaida Gonzales, and Casey Anthony's imaginary "nanny" have many similarities and we know how Casey weaves half-truths and other people's information into her own lies. The Websleuths website was buzzing until the Kiomarie thread was closed by the administrator, and I contacted Trisha and told her about how it appeared that Kiomarie lied to investigators about where she lives (her real address is across the street from Sawgrass Apartments) and she mentions her favorite baby girls are Yasmin and Michele (Zenaida's girls names) and I thought MAYBE KIOMARIE IS A BABYSITTER/NANNY and maybe she watched Caylee for her old friend Casey, and maybe she used to babysit Yasmin and Michele for Zenaida, and MAYBE THAT'S WHERE CASEY CAME ACROSS ZENAIDA'S NAME and invented her imaginary nanny with a little Kiomarie, a little Zenaida, and a lot of BS. No-one could figure out if Zenaida and Kiomarie were actually related, and I wanted to bring the BABYSITTING connection as a very real possibility. Trisha forwarded my "suggestions" to
her connections to follow up, and I took her suggestion and carefully detailed all the connections and coincidences and sent it via email to Det Yuri Melich, and he responded within an hour and thanked me, asked for some further info, and said they are following up on this today.

Here is Kiomarie myspace referencing Yasmin and Michele:
Kiomarie (my baby gurlz) http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...

Here is Kiomarie's most recent myspace
http://www.myspace.com/wickedprincess86

and here is the one she set up for her "puppy" http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...
http://www.myspace.com/misskio

Zenaida Gonzalez myspace (pics of daughters Yasmin and Michele)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...

Jonathan (ZG exboyfriend)http://profile.mys pace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction= user.viewprofile&friendid= 175545982
(friend of Cast Iron Tattoo- same as Casey)

Leeniebeenie wrote:
SOMEONE PLEASE POST THIS FOR ME AT WEBSLEUTHS!!!
KIOMARIE gave Det Wells the wrong address....she lives at Cornerstone Apartments on S, Conway Road, DIRECTLY across the street from Sawgrass Apts, and SHE USED TO BABYSIT FOR Zenaida Gonzalez's two girls, Yasmin and Michele!! This must be where Casey has pulled "Zenaida"out of the air, as well as many other facts that Kiomarie has in her life that Casey has "borrowed" the info to suit her!
I have contacted Law Enforcement and let them know!
PLEASE POST ON WS under KIOMARIE thread~~~

http://www.topix.net/forum/county/orange-fl/T4UHQV6DMIUFOA9C5/p991

Wow I am speechless...

OKAY THOSE LINkS WONT WORK FOR ME HELP! ONLY the DOGS AND THE wickedprincess one work..

Topix seems to be down right now.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=352773099

KIOMARIE that has reference to yazmine and michelle

I do not think that is the same kiomarie IMO

[Blonde]

Faith@HFTM gave me a link in my messanger  a good one it larger and was easy to read
http://www.docstoc.com/search/Casey-Anthony-Documents-august-25/

[mrskub]

Posted on Topix
Leeniebeenie wrote:
Early this morning I sent Det. Yuri Melich all the links from all the related myspace pages from Kiomarie Torres (she had 3 myspace pages in her name) and the two myspace pages that she set up for her "puppy", her boyfriend's myspace with links to many Universal employees as friends ("Manley" and "Julie") and the biggest COINCIDENCE is her first myspace page references the "baby gurlz she loves Yasmin and Michele", which are the names of the real Zenaida Gonzalez's girls (the one Channel 6 found and interviewed)
I detailed how the 3 women: Kiomarie Torres, Zenaida Gonzales, and Casey Anthony's imaginary "nanny" have many similarities and we know how Casey weaves half-truths and other people's information into her own lies. The Websleuths website was buzzing until the Kiomarie thread was closed by the administrator, and I contacted Trisha and told her about how it appeared that Kiomarie lied to investigators about where she lives (her real address is across the street from Sawgrass Apartments) and she mentions her favorite baby girls are Yasmin and Michele (Zenaida's girls names) and I thought MAYBE KIOMARIE IS A BABYSITTER/NANNY and maybe she watched Caylee for her old friend Casey, and maybe she used to babysit Yasmin and Michele for Zenaida, and MAYBE THAT'S WHERE CASEY CAME ACROSS ZENAIDA'S NAME and invented her imaginary nanny with a little Kiomarie, a little Zenaida, and a lot of BS. No-one could figure out if Zenaida and Kiomarie were actually related, and I wanted to bring the BABYSITTING connection as a very real possibility. Trisha forwarded my "suggestions" to
her connections to follow up, and I took her suggestion and carefully detailed all the connections and coincidences and sent it via email to Det Yuri Melich, and he responded within an hour and thanked me, asked for some further info, and said they are following up on this today.

Here is Kiomarie myspace referencing Yasmin and Michele:
Kiomarie (my baby gurlz) http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...

Here is Kiomarie's most recent myspace
http://www.myspace.com/wickedprincess86

and here is the one she set up for her "puppy" http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...
http://www.myspace.com/misskio

Zenaida Gonzalez myspace (pics of daughters Yasmin and Michele)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...

Jonathan (ZG exboyfriend)http://profile.mys pace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction= user.viewprofile&friendid= 175545982
(friend of Cast Iron Tattoo- same as Casey)

Leeniebeenie wrote:
SOMEONE PLEASE POST THIS FOR ME AT WEBSLEUTHS!!!
KIOMARIE gave Det Wells the wrong address....she lives at Cornerstone Apartments on S, Conway Road, DIRECTLY across the street from Sawgrass Apts, and SHE USED TO BABYSIT FOR Zenaida Gonzalez's two girls, Yasmin and Michele!! This must be where Casey has pulled "Zenaida"out of the air, as well as many other facts that Kiomarie has in her life that Casey has "borrowed" the info to suit her!
I have contacted Law Enforcement and let them know!
PLEASE POST ON WS under KIOMARIE thread~~~

http://www.topix.net/forum/county/orange-fl/T4UHQV6DMIUFOA9C5/p991

Wow I am speechless...

OKAY THOSE LINkS WONT WORK FOR ME HELP! ONLY the DOGS AND THE wickedprincess one work..

Topix seems to be down right now.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=352773099

KIOMARIE that has reference to yazmine and michelle

I do not think that is the same kiomarie IMO

I believe this is Kiomarie's MS:  http://www.myspace.com/wickedprincess86

[ck4]

Don't most keyboards have the print screen key? I just use the print screen key on my keyboard  past it on a document then you can open it and paint and so on ...Unless these software programs do much more that I'm not aware of

most paint programs can do this for example



but can not do this



or this



just to give you some examples

by the way - welcome to the SM forum ck4

Thanks Rob
Your way too fancy for me! And Yes that is cool stuff to you can do.....
nice demonstration 

[Destiny]

So George must of known by 06/24 other wise why all the hoopla crap about the gas cans..I just think somebody is awfully confident in where the remains are to go ahead and bring TES in or awfully confident in the line of bs they are going to give us about a kidnap/murder plot of Caylee.

What I think is this...so many concerned ppl have emailed Baez/Tony/Padilla...and ALL THE MEDIA....re: TES...that Baez has told the family...ya gotta do it...the tide is turning against you.....that is what I think....Des

[Treehouse]

Treehouse you said,
I know it's a big IF, but if George was telling the truth about seeing into Casey's car trunk on the 24th, and if Casey was asking to use Jesse's shower on June 24th, then, in my mind, Caylee was moved to her final resting place on that morning, probably before daylight, and it was done by Casey. If she'd had help from others, she'd have showered with them. JMO.

Works for me.  She than ditches the car and any other evidence at the Amscot on the 26th due to the stench and she knew she was getting Amy's car for use in the coming week.  That's what I've been tryin to narrow down too the actual day and just couldn't think of it like you.  And I can see the smell of gas masking the odor of decomp.

This is a new line of thinking for me. I've previously said that someone HAD to know where Caylee was because Casey could not have completed the disappearance of the child without help. It has been the reading of the 400 docs that has changed my mind. Casey is so hard hearted and/or emotionless in the interviews with the detectives. It is Casey's own words that have changed my mind. I now believe that Casey is capable of disposing of her child, by herself, and then putting the matter completely out of her mind. This also colors my views on Casey's parents involvement. I think they are only covering for her through words and not through actions. At least, in regard to moving a body. I'm still undecided about Cindy washing the pants.

[mrskub]

This appears to be the MS for the Zenaida who was interviewed. Note the blonde hair as well.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=166182731

[Rob]

you know, we have some very very bright people here, but there is one thing that I think we overlooked.

and I think this is the entire key - now check this

when Casey returned home and was allegedly confronted by George in the gas can thief (remember this is from George)

there is the high probability that Casey was about to torch the car with the body Caylee in it.

there has always been something missing in the gas can story - and there is a body missing - when you add them together, there aren't a whole lot of things that a small amount of gas could be used for.

it can not be used to completely destroy a body, it can hide evidence through emulation and can removed DNA such as trace forensics.

but it can not completely destroy a body.

I think the gas was to torch the car with the deceased body of Caylee inside.

something must have prevented this from happening.

[misitx5]

So looks to me like alot was going in shortly before CAYLEE was born..
Anyone got a guess on the rescue in 2004??

[tomm9298]

So looks to me like alot was going in shortly before CAYLEE was born..
Anyone got a guess on the rescue in 2004??

I am glad that loser family does not live in my neighborhood

My God, they are all ill