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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Since evidence is now such an important topic, I want to throw out a few thoughts. We all know what ALE has done with the evidence in Natalee's case. It's gone, missing, just like the witness's original 2005 statement that Mos said he couldn't find the other day. Well, in the latest developments this year, it isn't just ALE. It was a Dutch Coast Guard ship that confiscated the contents of the lobster trap and took it to the Hague. The pond was drained and examined this Spring by 40-50 Dutch forensics specialists who had arrived at the airport with their own drug and cadaver dogs. If evidence is missing from either of these significant events, we need to start screaming at not just ALE. We love you dearly Johan, but perhaps we need to start pointing some fingers in the direction of the Queen as well as ALE.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: johan555 on September 11, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
When Joran hide the body in the pond for a short time ,he must have moved the body within 2 or 3 weeks .
I believe it was done within one week, or by June 6, 2005
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Quote from: johan555 on September 11, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
When Joran hide the body in the pond for a short time ,he must have moved the body within 2 or 3 weeks .
I think it was just a few days, because Jalitzs Wever was buried on June 6th.
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Most of us have always believed she was moved at least once and probably twice...or more.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:41:25 PM
Since evidence is now such an important topic, I want to throw out a few thoughts. We all know what ALE has done with the evidence in Natalee's case. It's gone, missing, just like the witness's original 2005 statement that Mos said he couldn't find the other day. Well, in the latest developments this year, it isn't just ALE. It was a Dutch Coast Guard ship that confiscated the contents of the lobster trap and took it to the Hague. The pond was drained and examined this Spring by 40-50 Dutch forensics specialists who had arrived at the airport with their own drug and cadaver dogs. If evidence is missing from either of these significant events, we need to start screaming at not just ALE. We love you dearly Johan, but perhaps we need to start pointing some fingers in the direction of the Queen as well as ALE.
OR --- maybe the KLPD is merely keeping ALE out of the loop and is in fact working with our FBI. (my leanings)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:41:25 PM
Since evidence is now such an important topic, I want to throw out a few thoughts. We all know what ALE has done with the evidence in Natalee's case. It's gone, missing, just like the witness's original 2005 statement that Mos said he couldn't find the other day. Well, in the latest developments this year, it isn't just ALE. It was a Dutch Coast Guard ship that confiscated the contents of the lobster trap and took it to the Hague. The pond was drained and examined this Spring by 40-50 Dutch forensics specialists who had arrived at the airport with their own drug and cadaver dogs. If evidence is missing from either of these significant events, we need to start screaming at not just ALE. We love you dearly Johan, but perhaps we need to start pointing some fingers in the direction of the Queen as well as ALE.
OR --- maybe the KLPD is merely keeping ALE out of the loop and is in fact working with our FBI. (my leanings)
That would explain a few things that we are not currently seeing.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on September 11, 2008, 05:45:45 PM
Most of us have always believed she was moved at least once and probably twice...or more.
Bifrons....everyone just keep laughing at my Shango references for now...
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on September 11, 2008, 05:51:57 PM
Quote from: Nut44x4 on September 11, 2008, 05:45:45 PM
Most of us have always believed she was moved at least once and probably twice...or more.
Bifrons....everyone just keep laughing at my Shango references for now...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: ala_gunslinger on September 11, 2008, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:41:25 PM
Since evidence is now such an important topic, I want to throw out a few thoughts. We all know what ALE has done with the evidence in Natalee's case. It's gone, missing, just like the witness's original 2005 statement that Mos said he couldn't find the other day. Well, in the latest developments this year, it isn't just ALE. It was a Dutch Coast Guard ship that confiscated the contents of the lobster trap and took it to the Hague. The pond was drained and examined this Spring by 40-50 Dutch forensics specialists who had arrived at the airport with their own drug and cadaver dogs. If evidence is missing from either of these significant events, we need to start screaming at not just ALE. We love you dearly Johan, but perhaps we need to start pointing some fingers in the direction of the Queen as well as ALE.
OR --- maybe the KLPD is merely keeping ALE out of the loop and is in fact working with our FBI. (my leanings)
That would explain a few things that we are not currently seeing.
Might also explain WHO has had Tim return to Aruba! (without the blessing of Mos)!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 11, 2008, 03:49:13 PM
Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 03:16:42 PM
If someone has answered -- I missed it! WHO is spear-heading this latest effort? Who asked Tim to return to Aruba? Is OUR Government/FBI involved?
I'm not sure WHO in the USA is involved. My personal opinion is none of this would be happening right now if it weren't for Capslockwizard.
Caps has worked very closely with us for many months at his own great personal risk. He has provided incredible amounts of information. Many monkeys have spent hours verifying information. I know that many of us have been disappointed when ALE has sabotaged past efforts to find Natalee, but let's try to stay the course for now in the direction that Caps has led us. Right now, TES and Jossy are working with the information from Caps and the witness. This information involves the Matty Apts., the Monserat pond, and the Masonic Lodge cemetery. The information is currently being treated as valid and worthy of bringing the witness to Houston and TES returning to Aruba in the midst of the Orlando situation. Let's try not to confuse things or discount emerging possibilities until we know for sure. All of the many months of research, discussions, and details are in the Shango thread from about February. I guarantee that it is all a very interesting read that exposes the belly of Aruban corruption with names and events that will just make you want to scream. Some of what we have explored over the past three years is accurate and a lot has been incorrect information. Many new connections have been discovered. Please take some time to read through it. And please, let's show a strong support for Caps and the witness, for Natalee's sake.
Sorry SS you might be right in so many ways...but...you *are* wrong in others....Des...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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September 11, 2008, 06:00:56 PM »
Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 05:56:28 PM
Quote from: ala_gunslinger on September 11, 2008, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:41:25 PM
Since evidence is now such an important topic, I want to throw out a few thoughts. We all know what ALE has done with the evidence in Natalee's case. It's gone, missing, just like the witness's original 2005 statement that Mos said he couldn't find the other day. Well, in the latest developments this year, it isn't just ALE. It was a Dutch Coast Guard ship that confiscated the contents of the lobster trap and took it to the Hague. The pond was drained and examined this Spring by 40-50 Dutch forensics specialists who had arrived at the airport with their own drug and cadaver dogs. If evidence is missing from either of these significant events, we need to start screaming at not just ALE. We love you dearly Johan, but perhaps we need to start pointing some fingers in the direction of the Queen as well as ALE.
OR --- maybe the KLPD is merely keeping ALE out of the loop and is in fact working with our FBI. (my leanings)
That would explain a few things that we are not currently seeing.
Might also explain WHO has had Tim return to Aruba! (without the blessing of Mos)!
You're right. There are too many pieces of this puzzle coming together and making sense now.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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posted today by Elaine S at RU:
I was talking about what he told Patrick, and
I do know there's another little interview that was done in July that hasn't as yet hit the airwaves
, but with TES going to Aruba once again, and this case once again surfacing, I have a feeling the newest interview will be shown at some point.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: ala_gunslinger on September 11, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 05:56:28 PM
Quote from: ala_gunslinger on September 11, 2008, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:41:25 PM
Since evidence is now such an important topic, I want to throw out a few thoughts. We all know what ALE has done with the evidence in Natalee's case. It's gone, missing, just like the witness's original 2005 statement that Mos said he couldn't find the other day. Well, in the latest developments this year, it isn't just ALE. It was a Dutch Coast Guard ship that confiscated the contents of the lobster trap and took it to the Hague. The pond was drained and examined this Spring by 40-50 Dutch forensics specialists who had arrived at the airport with their own drug and cadaver dogs. If evidence is missing from either of these significant events, we need to start screaming at not just ALE. We love you dearly Johan, but perhaps we need to start pointing some fingers in the direction of the Queen as well as ALE.
OR --- maybe the KLPD is merely keeping ALE out of the loop and is in fact working with our FBI. (my leanings)
That would explain a few things that we are not currently seeing.
Might also explain WHO has had Tim return to Aruba! (without the blessing of Mos)!
You're right. There are too many pieces of this puzzle coming together and making sense now.
I'm actually getting more encouraged the more I think about it!!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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September 11, 2008, 06:11:46 PM »
Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:41:25 PM
Since evidence is now such an important topic, I want to throw out a few thoughts. We all know what ALE has done with the evidence in Natalee's case. It's gone, missing, just like the witness's original 2005 statement that Mos said he couldn't find the other day. Well, in the latest developments this year, it isn't just ALE. It was a Dutch Coast Guard ship that confiscated the contents of the lobster trap and took it to the Hague. The pond was drained and examined this Spring by 40-50 Dutch forensics specialists who had arrived at the airport with their own drug and cadaver dogs. If evidence is missing from either of these significant events, we need to start screaming at not just ALE. We love you dearly Johan, but perhaps we need to start pointing some fingers in the direction of the Queen as well as ALE.
huh our queen ? she has no grip on the government she is only a symbol
I think also that not only the aruban governement is corrupt but Hirsch Ballin ect also
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: Destiny on September 11, 2008, 05:59:24 PM
Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 11, 2008, 03:49:13 PM
Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 03:16:42 PM
If someone has answered -- I missed it! WHO is spear-heading this latest effort? Who asked Tim to return to Aruba? Is OUR Government/FBI involved?
I'm not sure WHO in the USA is involved. My personal opinion is none of this would be happening right now if it weren't for Capslockwizard.
Caps has worked very closely with us for many months at his own great personal risk. He has provided incredible amounts of information. Many monkeys have spent hours verifying information. I know that many of us have been disappointed when ALE has sabotaged past efforts to find Natalee, but let's try to stay the course for now in the direction that Caps has led us. Right now, TES and Jossy are working with the information from Caps and the witness. This information involves the Matty Apts., the Monserat pond, and the Masonic Lodge cemetery. The information is currently being treated as valid and worthy of bringing the witness to Houston and TES returning to Aruba in the midst of the Orlando situation. Let's try not to confuse things or discount emerging possibilities until we know for sure. All of the many months of research, discussions, and details are in the Shango thread from about February. I guarantee that it is all a very interesting read that exposes the belly of Aruban corruption with names and events that will just make you want to scream. Some of what we have explored over the past three years is accurate and a lot has been incorrect information. Many new connections have been discovered. Please take some time to read through it. And please, let's show a strong support for Caps and the witness, for Natalee's sake.
Sorry SS you might be right in so many ways...but...you *are* wrong in others....Des...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Paul vd Sloot worked as landsadvocaat (lawyer for the country)
So in that function, you know all the secrets of a country
perhaps they are afraid that he will talk about Secret Affairs
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Quote from: johan555 on September 11, 2008, 06:18:00 PM
Paul vd Sloot worked as landsadvocaat (lawyer for the country)
So in that function, you know all the secrets of a country
perhaps they are afraid that he will talk about Secret Affairs
Then, perhaps they should "off" him.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: wreck on September 11, 2008, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: SS on September 11, 2008, 05:41:25 PM
Since evidence is now such an important topic, I want to throw out a few thoughts. We all know what ALE has done with the evidence in Natalee's case. It's gone, missing, just like the witness's original 2005 statement that Mos said he couldn't find the other day. Well, in the latest developments this year, it isn't just ALE. It was a Dutch Coast Guard ship that confiscated the contents of the lobster trap and took it to the Hague. The pond was drained and examined this Spring by 40-50 Dutch forensics specialists who had arrived at the airport with their own drug and cadaver dogs. If evidence is missing from either of these significant events, we need to start screaming at not just ALE. We love you dearly Johan, but perhaps we need to start pointing some fingers in the direction of the Queen as well as ALE.
OR --- maybe the KLPD is merely keeping ALE out of the loop and is in fact working with our FBI. (my leanings)
I hope you're right, Wreck. Thanks to our Dutch posters we know that at least some in the Netherlands are upset about and looking at the shady goings on in some of the Dutch islands. So I think this is very possible.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: johan555 on September 11, 2008, 04:56:18 PM
May 2007
The team of the KLPD knows that Joran Sloot from the Netherlands had plans to visit his parents for a week on Aruba . Under the guise of an investigation into the house (housesearch) (the couple Van der Sloot was away at that time ) spymicrophones were installed in the house by specialists of the Service Specialist Forensic Applications from Driebergen . But unfortunately, Joran did not come to Aruba and the people of the KLPD caught nothing. Later, a similar operation carried out by the Kalpoe brothers, but also no result
Someone please tell me that the Kalpoes are not off the hook in this?
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===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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