Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/15/08

[BUCKSHOT]

I don't think a search of the pond OR a crypt is going to find anything now anyways. If she was there -- she has already been moved again. I will still take odds that at least part of her has already been recovered. I think we are in the "end game."

I was thinking about that today and wondered if ALE moved her again after we started talking about the Masonic cemetery a few months ago.

SS, I think they would have destroyed any evidence a long time ago. Look at the fact that they didn't find a single strand  of Natalee's hair or a single fabric sample of her clothing in Deepak's car. That is impossible in the forensics world, but even more unlikely if Natalee was in the condition the three suspects described. This shows how early on the so-called investigators were destroying evidence.

Instead of collecting and preserving evidence, they were collecting and destroying it.

Likewise, instead of preserving crime scenes, they were contaminating(dump) or professionally cleaning them.

Sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it??

Those, on the surface, who were searching for clues and evidence... were actually, behind the scenes, making it disappear.

It was a well coordinated effort on their part, but unfortunately, it did not go un-noticed.

[SS]

Posted on: 1:37 pm, May 31, 2005   
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Just wanted to warn everyone:

My best friend and her husband chaperoned a senior trip of 160 kids down to Aruba, and she returned last night. Her husband had to stay b/c they think that one of the girls was kidnapped, and is possibly in Venezuela now. Her parents flew down, and the State Dept., DEA and several other groups are involved now. She left with a guy from Carlos and Charlie's, and the cops found out that he is a local drug dealer. Just wanted to let everyone know to please stay safe. If anyone in Aruba has any info., please let me know. I should know more later today. Just please say a prayer.

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I wonder which Sloot offspring they were referring to - Urine or Lorenzo?  Is Lorenzo the cool and crazy guy from earlier in the week - the 5th suspect????

[Ono]

That's all folks...with Jossy.

Thank you Dana, and Lalas for the updates!!!!

Ditto!  [  Didn't get to listen. ] 

[San]

Didn't Mos say that in order to prosecute the case he would
need a witness or a confession?

Hey, Hans Mos, you have had both a confession and a witness.
When you gonna prosecute?

Unfortunately I feel you have to fight fire with fire.  When someone decides to expose everyone in the video they made they will do anything not to make it public.  It will crush Aruba.  JMO

[BUCKSHOT]

I still wonder, sometimes, how the rock scene plays in to this case.

Also, I am not sure that the body is capable of recovery as it may have been destroyed.

[Blue Moon]

Didn't Mos say that in order to prosecute the case he would
need a witness or a confession?

Hey, Hans Mos, you have had both a confession and a witness.
When you gonna prosecute?

Unfortunately I feel you have to fight fire with fire.  When someone decides to expose everyone in the video they made they will do anything not to make it public.  It will crush Aruba.  JMO

So who do you all think has the video made at the Apartment?  My guess would be the Kalpoes.

[Lala'sMom]

Didn't Mos say that in order to prosecute the case he would
need a witness or a confession?

Hey, Hans Mos, you have had both a confession and a witness.
When you gonna prosecute?

Well to Mos they don't jive...the confession was on the beach and the witness saw him at a pond. So that is Mos excuse this time, I suppose.

[SS]

I don't think a search of the pond OR a crypt is going to find anything now anyways. If she was there -- she has already been moved again. I will still take odds that at least part of her has already been recovered. I think we are in the "end game."

I was thinking about that today and wondered if ALE moved her again after we started talking about the Masonic cemetery a few months ago.

SS, I think they would have destroyed any evidence a long time ago. Look at the fact that they didn't find a single strand  of Natalee's hair or a single fabric sample of her clothing in Deepak's car. That is impossible in the forensics world, but even more unlikely if Natalee was in the condition the three suspects described. This shows how early on the so-called investigators were destroying evidence.

Instead of collecting and preserving evidence, they were collecting and destroying it.

Likewise, instead of preserving crime scenes, they were contaminating(dump) or professionally cleaning them.

Sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it??

Those, on the surface, who were searching for clues and evidence... were actually, behind the scenes, making it disappear.

It was a well coordinated effort on their part, but unfortunately, it did not go un-noticed.

I think that you are right on the money.  Didn't Rob, Carpe, and a few others compare lots and lots of photographs and came to the conclusion that the Honda sent to Holland was not the actual Honda owned by Deepak?  It was a different car. 

[BUCKSHOT]

Wonder if Paulus and Anita made popcorn for Dana's program tonight ???

Hope, for safety purposes, that this courageous witness is well protected.

The next time you see Paulus, he will driving a blue jeep....

[SS]

Jossy says the found a shoe when they drained the pond!! 

Yes!!!  And this is exactly what we had suspected and predicted all along while ALE refused to even confrim that they had examined the pond.

[San]

Didn't Mos say that in order to prosecute the case he would
need a witness or a confession?

Hey, Hans Mos, you have had both a confession and a witness.
When you gonna prosecute?

Unfortunately I feel you have to fight fire with fire.  When someone decides to expose everyone in the video they made they will do anything not to make it public.  It will crush Aruba.  JMO

So who do you all think has the video made at the Apartment?  My guess would be the Kalpoes.

I always thought Deepak had a copy.  Paulus made a trip to Florida and we all think it was to retrieve the video.  So who ever he got the video from must have a copy.

SOMEONE WILL GET CAUGHT IN A CRIME AND THEY WILL OFFER THAT VIDEO UP.  IF THE FBI DOESN'T HAVE A COPY ALREADY.

[San]

Wonder if Paulus and Anita made popcorn for Dana's program tonight ???

Hope, for safety purposes, that this courageous witness is well protected.

The next time you see Paulus, he will driving a blue jeep....

Yeah and if the windows are closed he will be drowning in his own sweat.

[BUCKSHOT]

Very, very early on in the case (a day or two later), there was slight buzz on RWV and perhaps only one cable station, in the form of a brief aside, that a shoe was unmatched in Joran's closet and a friend was supposedly trying to shop for a match to his lost shoe in local nearby stores.

[Magnolia]

Didn't Mos say that in order to prosecute the case he would
need a witness or a confession?

Hey, Hans Mos, you have had both a confession and a witness.
When you gonna prosecute?

Well to Mos they don't jive...the confession was on the beach and the witness saw him at a pond. So that is Mos excuse this time, I suppose.

So pick one.  He said either or.
Supposedly there is yet another confession out there that has not been made public.
Joran made another confession since he has been in Thailand.

[BUCKSHOT]

Wonder if Paulus and Anita made popcorn for Dana's program tonight ???

Hope, for safety purposes, that this courageous witness is well protected.

The next time you see Paulus, he will driving a blue jeep....

Yeah and if the windows are closed he will be drowning in his own sweat.

Anita will be riding shotgun in a see-through blouse.
Joran will be in the backseat smoking a doob...

[SS]

Didn't Mos say that in order to prosecute the case he would
need a witness or a confession?

Hey, Hans Mos, you have had both a confession and a witness.
When you gonna prosecute?

Unfortunately I feel you have to fight fire with fire.  When someone decides to expose everyone in the video they made they will do anything not to make it public.  It will crush Aruba.  JMO

So who do you all think has the video made at the Apartment?  My guess would be the Kalpoes.

Maybe it's in Miami.  I think that there are probably mutliple copies of the tape or DVD.  My guess is that it's in a few safety deposit boxes.

[Lala'sMom]

Didn't Mos say that in order to prosecute the case he would
need a witness or a confession?

Hey, Hans Mos, you have had both a confession and a witness.
When you gonna prosecute?

Well to Mos they don't jive...the confession was on the beach and the witness saw him at a pond. So that is Mos excuse this time, I suppose.

So pick one.  He said either or.
Supposedly there is yet another confession out there that has not been made public.
Joran made another confession since he has been in Thailand.

Well, I will say this...if the reason they denied Paulus compensation was due to someone seeing Paulus at the ATM in the jeep and this witness says he saw him too..then that tome is corroborating evidence.  But Mos won't see it that way...as far as he is concerned Joran said he was on the beach and she died accidentally that night.

[BUCKSHOT]

Han Mos will be popped like a bad pimple. It is a metter of time.

And when he pops, someone should email Shango to warn, in the form of a riddle, of falling cards...

[Lala'sMom]

Until the Kalpoes are squeezed we will never know what happened.

[Blue Moon]

Any chance this will end up a human rights case in the Hague kinda like that Matthews guy?