Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/15/08

[mom2eloise]

Here's the quote I was referring to:

person here was march is cu one near of leg is ‘limp', y here the witness owing to see cu the was miss one leg of zapato or keds. the is calcula cu at the form cu the was march of near, the was miss his zapato or keds of his leg right.algo cu past owing to notice also,


Michele

[MumInOhio]

Hi to everyone, I've been reading here for years but have never posted.

Just wanted to comment re the "limp" noted in the statement by the witness.  If you read further you will see the words "limp" followed by "zapatoes" and "ked".    Urine was limping because he was only wearing one shoe.   Other one must have been lost in the mud.

Michele

Thanks mom2eloise and Welcome!

[Dayhiker]

Hi to everyone, I've been reading here for years but have never posted.

Just wanted to comment re the "limp" noted in the statement by the witness.  If you read further you will see the words "limp" followed by "zapatoes" and "ked".    Urine was limping because he was only wearing one shoe.   Other one must have been lost in the mud.

Michele

Thanks mom2eloise and Welcome!

Ah!!! Those pesky tennis shoes again!!!! Didn't Joran tell Patrick von Eem he just made the tennis shoe thing up? That probably means he didn't.

Welcome from here, too, mom2eloise!

 

[Dayhiker]

THIS JUST IN FROM ARUBA via email after I called...Destiny:



    HalloXXXXXXX

    The information I get is that the witness is a male. He has make his polygraph test with Jhn S. Swartz.
    That the information was already in hands of Fiscal Mr. Mos but he hasn't do anything about it. But now that we have it in the newspaper its a big news again.
     
    I let you know as soon I have more information about it.
     
    We stay in touch
    Bye
    have a nice day
  XXXXXXXXXX

Thanks Destiny!

IMO we owe alot of this current activitiy in the case to a few in ARUBA who haven't given up and refuse to coverup!

And it seems we have another Dutch Prosecutor working on the defense team of the Van der Sloots. Thank God for Jossy.

[klaasend]

Posted May 5 2008

Jonathan45 at scrux 


   
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject:   
The real update

On my desk lies a 'human' shin-bone in a box, a bone found in a pond not far from Montanja 19 by a friend during his visit to Aruba last month.
I don't know if if it's one of Natalees shin-bones, but it is a human bone.

To solve the missing of Natalee Holloway the ALE needs only a cadaver dog.

Today I will seal my lips too.

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=611&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225


Caps reply:

How strange.... Today in matter of fact, the ALE got this special dog that is trained to sniff drugs, money and human remains.

it has arrived yesterday.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379230

 

Two of my favorite people, Capslock and J45!

 

[MumInOhio]

Posted May 5 2008

Jonathan45 at scrux 


   
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject:   
The real update

On my desk lies a 'human' shin-bone in a box, a bone found in a pond not far from Montanja 19 by a friend during his visit to Aruba last month.
I don't know if if it's one of Natalees shin-bones, but it is a human bone.

To solve the missing of Natalee Holloway the ALE needs only a cadaver dog.

Today I will seal my lips too.

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=611&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225


Caps reply:

How strange.... Today in matter of fact, the ALE got this special dog that is trained to sniff drugs, money and human remains.

it has arrived yesterday.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg379230

 

Another post of Caps from the link that Buckeye posted above...I believe Caps posted at a later time that Mos was not on their side

« Reply #1348 on: May 06, 2008, 12:06:59 AM »  Caps
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Today withness talk to lawyer to see what is the hold-up, lawyer state every thing is OK and group are working on the case. Large dutch CSI. (case is under the microscope---but no american involvment is a bit strange.)

After deliberating with withness on this, we conclude 3 things that might come out of this.

The case will break wide open and all players will be found or they came in secret now that the water has gone to do a forensic and find Natalee remains or cleanup what they could not cleanup in 3 years and say "se la vi" to the case

MOS seems to go for option-1 but like I said, he still have to fight a Dirtyhand in his Office / organization.

Latest is that OM is now in hot water since they also have somehow exceed the 2001 till 2005 budged (OVER SPEND), also no one was watching the money that they were collecting from big fines and other confiscated moneys. The is a problem (hot scandal comming out soon from this office.)



 

[MumInOhio]

Hi Caps ...  thought you might be back today

[ldstlou]

e-mailed to me from a friend:

Top article on page 3…

JORAN SEEN FULL OF MUD WALKING NEAR THE Dam WITH ONLY ONE TENNIS SHOE
ON HIS FEET…

THE DAM AT MONSERAT GETTING NEW ATTENTION IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE

ORANJESTAD (AAN) Perhaps many will say today that God is great, and in
a meticulous way does His work so that every crime has hidden clues so
that the solution may be reached. Today it has gone so far that DIARIO
can reveal officially to the people that at last a masculine witness
has come forward.

   This witness felt he could no longer hold back, and at last gave
his complete declaration as to what he saw at the end of May 2005, at
4'oclock in the morning, from the window of his living room.

Due to his fear of reprisals, he only gave to the local authorities a
parcial statement, in other words that he saw Joran walk past his
house at 4:05 a.m. , walking strangely because he only had one tennis
shoe on.

   The local authorities, principally Prosecutor Mr. Mos, was acting
very hostile towards this witness, and that made the witness hold back
the totality of his story to him as to what happened.

   Nevertheless, with the American investigators and to his lawyer he
gave the complete story, not just the part regarding Joran alone.
Parts of the complete story will appear later in the DIARIO.

   But, the first aspect of the story of this witness, immediately
created suspicion by the Americans. Even though he lives at about 1.9
kilometers from the Fishermen Huts, his declaration can have important
implications to complete this big puzzle.

   The Americans wanted more assurances and asked the witness to
travel to the United States, where one of the most trusted experts in
Polygraph  Examinations, the famous John S. Swastz, made the test with
him, to determine whether this Aruban witness was lying.

   He passed all the examinations perfectly, and John Swartz is
convinced that this witness is telling the truth about what he saw at
4 a.m. in front of his house.

   Even though Prosecutor Mr. Mos and also the Van Der Sloot family,
want to or not, this gives a complete turnaround in the whole
investigation. Today    DIARIO focuses on the first part of the
declaration of the witness. What is being published today is what the
local authority (e.o. Prosecutor Mos) know from him, since they have
his signed declaration.

   But the next publication which will appear in the DIARIO, will
reveal more than the authorities in Aruba know. This is something that
the local witness did not dare tell the local detectives nor to the
prosecution that received him in the beginning. He was too afraid to
do so. But, to the Americans he did give his complete declaration, and
he passed a Lie-Detector test in the United States to prove that he
was telling the truth.


Main article on page 3 (bottom)

JORAN'S CLOTHES WERE FULL OF MUD WHEN HE WAS WALKING NEAR THE DAM AT MONSERAT

First part of the new revelations by the witness

ORANJESTAD(AAN) A new witness who has proven to be speaking the truth,
is bringing the long-awaited clarity in the disappearance of Natalee
Holloway in May 2005 in Aruba. At last, after studying the new
revelations of the witness during the last few months, now DIARIO has
gotten the results back from the U.S. about the first part of his
declaration.

   DIARIO again wants to put emphasis on the fact that Prosecutor Mos
has knowledge of this part, but doesn't  know what he did with it. The
second part which will appear soon in the DIARIO contains information
that the Prosecution of Aruba has no knowledge of at this point,
simply because every time the witness gave his declaration he was
pushed into a corner of fear for reprisals.

   This witness, a man born in Aruba, went to the United States where
he took and passed a polygraph test successfully.

   THE WITNESS SPEAKS:

   It was on the night of the 30th of May2005 that he was asleep in
his room at his house, when he was awoken by the sound of numerous
dogs barking out of control and in very menacing tones.

The witness opened his eyes, looked at the watch and saw that it was
4:05 in the morning.

   Listening to the direction from which the sounds of the dogs were
coming, he went to the living room of his house and observed what the
dogs were barking at with such urgency.

   Under a street lamp he saw a person walking in the direction of his
house. He was coming from the sports field of Nacional, near the Dam
of Monserat, going in the direction of the hotels.  The person on foot
passed under the following street lamp and the witness saw the person
very well and clearly. He was a notably tall, thin, masculine, white
skin, short dark hair, a relatively young man who looked like a
Dutchman.

   He also saw the form (profile) of his head and one side of his face.

   The clothes he had on was a red tee shirt and long clear colored pants .

   Remarcable was that this person was walking with a limp, and here
is where the witness saw that he lacked one tennis shoe. He calculated
that from the way he was walking, he was missing the tennis shoes of
his right foot.

   Another thing that he noticed was that the person was breathing
heavily, as if he had been running for quite a while. His chest was
heaving up and down rapidly.
CLOTHES WERE WET

   The witness continued to declare (and proved with his test that he
was telling the truth) that the man he saw had on wet clothes, and had
a notable stripe of muddy waters that reached to his chest, about 5
centimeters more or less over his flannel.

   The stripe on his flannel showed clearly that from the muddy waters
going down his clothes were completely wet.

   At first the witness thought that this person had beenin a fight
and ran away so as not to receive any more blows. The side of his face
that the witness noticed, however, did not show any signs of blood or
blows.  But, due to the fact that the person did not once look over
his shoulder to check if anyone was following him, and continued to
walk with his head down and, with accelerated velocity, the witness
thought that he was involved in something else and not in a fight.

   The person continued to walk in front of his house until he lost
him from sight, and in no instance did the man look up or back, and
continued to walk in the direction of the hotels.

   All this happened in about 1 minute.

   After he lost the person from sight, the witness sat in his living
room for about 15 to 20 minutes before he went back to sleep.

   (DIARIO COMMENT: Here something else happened, that the witness did
not reveal to the local authorities, but well to the American
investigators. In our next publication DIARIO will reveal what else
the witness saw that eventful morning. The Polygraph test he took
proved that here too he was telling the truth!)

   The witness woke up and went to his work at about 11: a.m. Then the
news about Natalee's disappearance was on the radio and he found out
that there was a tourst teenager who did not make it back to her
hotel. He immediately remembered what he saw a few hours earlier

After the news became bigger, and they began to arrest the wrong
persons, the witness felt discouraged to come forward, and after he
saw that the young man Joran van der Sloot in the news, he recognized
him immediately as the person he saw walking past his home.

After he found out that the father of the man was a lawyer and
studying to become a judge, and that he was an intimate friend of a
high ranking police officer, he felt totally discouraged to come
forward with what he saw.

ON top of that, knowing that the Aruban judicial system is totally in
the hands of the Dutch, he forced himself to keep quiet. This lasted
for over 2 years, until the end of 2007, when he felt he had to tell
about what he saw, and so he came forward slowly, to explain what he
saw in front of his house, which is situated at about 500 meters from
the Dam of Monserat at Noord

He also got himself a lawyer, because the case was so big and he needed advice.

In the meantime, the Americans, with police permission, made a sonar
test of the Dam of Monserat in the beginning of this year, when the
level of the water was low. DIARIO has found out that this test
discovered 15 objects of interest and that they could define only 3 of
them.

IN another article, DIARIO will show how Prosecutor Mos paid little
attention to this witness and on the contrary, tried to discredit him.
This makes you wonder: Is it true that they want to protect van der
Sloot cost what it may?

[ldstlou]

gotta run Monkeys...just wanted to post translation in case we didn't have it..no time to look back!! lol
Have a great day!!!

[MumInOhio]

Thanks Lisa...ell your friend Thank You 

[Lala'sMom]

This witness does not sound like Caps witness...that is good news.  That means there are two independent people that saw this happen.  Caps witness was a person that lived on Aruba and had a family there.  Caps knew this witness for about 3 1/2 years.  He said he lived in a house on the road where the pond is. So if this is a different person then... that is good news.  Mos has all the info on Caps witness and has done nothing.  Now if this witness can help we could be making progress.  Mos kept insisting there be more than one witness that could corroborate the same thing.  Let's keep our fingers crossed here.

[angelalala]

gotta run Monkeys...just wanted to post translation in case we didn't have it..no time to look back!! lol
Have a great day!!!

That's okay... I sent a PM to another member telling them to go ahead and bring that translation over here too... but at least it is already here now. I've sent Jossy a big... Thank YOU.

[Lala'sMom]

e-mailed to me from a friend:

Top article on page 3…

JORAN SEEN FULL OF MUD WALKING NEAR THE Dam WITH ONLY ONE TENNIS SHOE
ON HIS FEET…

THE DAM AT MONSERAT GETTING NEW ATTENTION IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE

ORANJESTAD (AAN) Perhaps many will say today that God is great, and in
a meticulous way does His work so that every crime has hidden clues so
that the solution may be reached. Today it has gone so far that DIARIO
can reveal officially to the people that at last a masculine witness
has come forward.

   This witness felt he could no longer hold back, and at last gave
his complete declaration as to what he saw at the end of May 2005, at
4'oclock in the morning, from the window of his living room.

Due to his fear of reprisals, he only gave to the local authorities a
parcial statement, in other words that he saw Joran walk past his
house at 4:05 a.m. , walking strangely because he only had one tennis
shoe on.

   The local authorities, principally Prosecutor Mr. Mos, was acting
very hostile towards this witness, and that made the witness hold back
the totality of his story to him as to what happened.

   Nevertheless, with the American investigators and to his lawyer he
gave the complete story, not just the part regarding Joran alone.
Parts of the complete story will appear later in the DIARIO.

   But, the first aspect of the story of this witness, immediately
created suspicion by the Americans. Even though he lives at about 1.9
kilometers from the Fishermen Huts, his declaration can have important
implications to complete this big puzzle.

   The Americans wanted more assurances and asked the witness to
travel to the United States, where one of the most trusted experts in
Polygraph  Examinations, the famous John S. Swastz, made the test with
him, to determine whether this Aruban witness was lying.

   He passed all the examinations perfectly, and John Swartz is
convinced that this witness is telling the truth about what he saw at
4 a.m. in front of his house.

   Even though Prosecutor Mr. Mos and also the Van Der Sloot family,
want to or not, this gives a complete turnaround in the whole
investigation. Today    DIARIO focuses on the first part of the
declaration of the witness. What is being published today is what the
local authority (e.o. Prosecutor Mos) know from him, since they have
his signed declaration.

   But the next publication which will appear in the DIARIO, will
reveal more than the authorities in Aruba know. This is something that
the local witness did not dare tell the local detectives nor to the
prosecution that received him in the beginning. He was too afraid to
do so. But, to the Americans he did give his complete declaration, and
he passed a Lie-Detector test in the United States to prove that he
was telling the truth.


Main article on page 3 (bottom)

JORAN'S CLOTHES WERE FULL OF MUD WHEN HE WAS WALKING NEAR THE DAM AT MONSERAT

First part of the new revelations by the witness

ORANJESTAD(AAN) A new witness who has proven to be speaking the truth,
is bringing the long-awaited clarity in the disappearance of Natalee
Holloway in May 2005 in Aruba. At last, after studying the new
revelations of the witness during the last few months, now DIARIO has
gotten the results back from the U.S. about the first part of his
declaration.

   DIARIO again wants to put emphasis on the fact that Prosecutor Mos
has knowledge of this part, but doesn't  know what he did with it. The
second part which will appear soon in the DIARIO contains information
that the Prosecution of Aruba has no knowledge of at this point,
simply because every time the witness gave his declaration he was
pushed into a corner of fear for reprisals.

   This witness, a man born in Aruba, went to the United States where
he took and passed a polygraph test successfully.

   THE WITNESS SPEAKS:

   It was on the night of the 30th of May2005 that he was asleep in
his room at his house, when he was awoken by the sound of numerous
dogs barking out of control and in very menacing tones.

The witness opened his eyes, looked at the watch and saw that it was
4:05 in the morning.

   Listening to the direction from which the sounds of the dogs were
coming, he went to the living room of his house and observed what the
dogs were barking at with such urgency.

   Under a street lamp he saw a person walking in the direction of his
house. He was coming from the sports field of Nacional, near the Dam
of Monserat, going in the direction of the hotels.  The person on foot
passed under the following street lamp and the witness saw the person
very well and clearly. He was a notably tall, thin, masculine, white
skin, short dark hair, a relatively young man who looked like a
Dutchman.

   He also saw the form (profile) of his head and one side of his face.

   The clothes he had on was a red tee shirt and long clear colored pants .

   Remarcable was that this person was walking with a limp, and here
is where the witness saw that he lacked one tennis shoe. He calculated
that from the way he was walking, he was missing the tennis shoes of
his right foot.

   Another thing that he noticed was that the person was breathing
heavily, as if he had been running for quite a while. His chest was
heaving up and down rapidly.
CLOTHES WERE WET

   The witness continued to declare (and proved with his test that he
was telling the truth) that the man he saw had on wet clothes, and had
a notable stripe of muddy waters that reached to his chest, about 5
centimeters more or less over his flannel.

   The stripe on his flannel showed clearly that from the muddy waters
going down his clothes were completely wet.

   At first the witness thought that this person had beenin a fight
and ran away so as not to receive any more blows. The side of his face
that the witness noticed, however, did not show any signs of blood or
blows.  But, due to the fact that the person did not once look over
his shoulder to check if anyone was following him, and continued to
walk with his head down and, with accelerated velocity, the witness
thought that he was involved in something else and not in a fight.

   The person continued to walk in front of his house until he lost
him from sight, and in no instance did the man look up or back, and
continued to walk in the direction of the hotels.

   All this happened in about 1 minute.

   After he lost the person from sight, the witness sat in his living
room for about 15 to 20 minutes before he went back to sleep.

   (DIARIO COMMENT: Here something else happened, that the witness did
not reveal to the local authorities, but well to the American
investigators. In our next publication DIARIO will reveal what else
the witness saw that eventful morning. The Polygraph test he took
proved that here too he was telling the truth!)

   The witness woke up and went to his work at about 11: a.m. Then the
news about Natalee's disappearance was on the radio and he found out
that there was a tourst teenager who did not make it back to her
hotel. He immediately remembered what he saw a few hours earlier

After the news became bigger, and they began to arrest the wrong
persons, the witness felt discouraged to come forward, and after he
saw that the young man Joran van der Sloot in the news, he recognized
him immediately as the person he saw walking past his home.

After he found out that the father of the man was a lawyer and
studying to become a judge, and that he was an intimate friend of a
high ranking police officer, he felt totally discouraged to come
forward with what he saw.

ON top of that, knowing that the Aruban judicial system is totally in
the hands of the Dutch, he forced himself to keep quiet. This lasted
for over 2 years, until the end of 2007, when he felt he had to tell
about what he saw, and so he came forward slowly, to explain what he
saw in front of his house, which is situated at about 500 meters from
the Dam of Monserat at Noord

He also got himself a lawyer, because the case was so big and he needed advice.

In the meantime, the Americans, with police permission, made a sonar
test of the Dam of Monserat in the beginning of this year, when the
level of the water was low. DIARIO has found out that this test
discovered 15 objects of interest and that they could define only 3 of
them.

IN another article, DIARIO will show how Prosecutor Mos paid little
attention to this witness and on the contrary, tried to discredit him.
This makes you wonder: Is it true that they want to protect van der
Sloot cost what it may?

Wait a minute!!  This could be the same person in this story.  So where did the  hotel room and tourist story come from?  This sounds like what Caps told me about the witness....and at BFN they said it was a person in a hotel room...interesting that they don't jive.  Where does it say this witness saw Paulus?  Now this is making more sense...the story by Pearl at BFN is not the same as Caps...but I think they are talking about the same person.  OK...I will wait to see if Mos does anything this time....he's had this info for months now and has not acted on it at all....I can't get my hopes up...we all know Mos disregarded Caps witness the last time...wonder if he will do anything this time.

[MumInOhio]

gotta run Monkeys...just wanted to post translation in case we didn't have it..no time to look back!! lol
Have a great day!!!

That's okay... I sent a PM to another member telling them to go ahead and bring that translation over here too... but at least it is already here now. I've sent Jossy a big... Thank YOU.

Thanks angelala...

[MumInOhio]

e-mailed to me from a friend:

Top article on page 3…

JORAN SEEN FULL OF MUD WALKING NEAR THE Dam WITH ONLY ONE TENNIS SHOE
ON HIS FEET…

THE DAM AT MONSERAT GETTING NEW ATTENTION IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE

ORANJESTAD (AAN) Perhaps many will say today that God is great, and in
a meticulous way does His work so that every crime has hidden clues so
that the solution may be reached. Today it has gone so far that DIARIO
can reveal officially to the people that at last a masculine witness
has come forward.

   This witness felt he could no longer hold back, and at last gave
his complete declaration as to what he saw at the end of May 2005, at
4'oclock in the morning, from the window of his living room.

Due to his fear of reprisals, he only gave to the local authorities a
parcial statement, in other words that he saw Joran walk past his
house at 4:05 a.m. , walking strangely because he only had one tennis
shoe on.

   The local authorities, principally Prosecutor Mr. Mos, was acting
very hostile towards this witness, and that made the witness hold back
the totality of his story to him as to what happened.

   Nevertheless, with the American investigators and to his lawyer he
gave the complete story, not just the part regarding Joran alone.
Parts of the complete story will appear later in the DIARIO.

   But, the first aspect of the story of this witness, immediately
created suspicion by the Americans. Even though he lives at about 1.9
kilometers from the Fishermen Huts, his declaration can have important
implications to complete this big puzzle.

   The Americans wanted more assurances and asked the witness to
travel to the United States, where one of the most trusted experts in
Polygraph  Examinations, the famous John S. Swastz, made the test with
him, to determine whether this Aruban witness was lying.

   He passed all the examinations perfectly, and John Swartz is
convinced that this witness is telling the truth about what he saw at
4 a.m. in front of his house.

   Even though Prosecutor Mr. Mos and also the Van Der Sloot family,
want to or not, this gives a complete turnaround in the whole
investigation. Today    DIARIO focuses on the first part of the
declaration of the witness. What is being published today is what the
local authority (e.o. Prosecutor Mos) know from him, since they have
his signed declaration.

   But the next publication which will appear in the DIARIO, will
reveal more than the authorities in Aruba know. This is something that
the local witness did not dare tell the local detectives nor to the
prosecution that received him in the beginning. He was too afraid to
do so. But, to the Americans he did give his complete declaration, and
he passed a Lie-Detector test in the United States to prove that he
was telling the truth.


Main article on page 3 (bottom)

JORAN'S CLOTHES WERE FULL OF MUD WHEN HE WAS WALKING NEAR THE DAM AT MONSERAT

First part of the new revelations by the witness

ORANJESTAD(AAN) A new witness who has proven to be speaking the truth,
is bringing the long-awaited clarity in the disappearance of Natalee
Holloway in May 2005 in Aruba. At last, after studying the new
revelations of the witness during the last few months, now DIARIO has
gotten the results back from the U.S. about the first part of his
declaration.

   DIARIO again wants to put emphasis on the fact that Prosecutor Mos
has knowledge of this part, but doesn't  know what he did with it. The
second part which will appear soon in the DIARIO contains information
that the Prosecution of Aruba has no knowledge of at this point,
simply because every time the witness gave his declaration he was
pushed into a corner of fear for reprisals.

   This witness, a man born in Aruba, went to the United States where
he took and passed a polygraph test successfully.

   THE WITNESS SPEAKS:

   It was on the night of the 30th of May2005 that he was asleep in
his room at his house, when he was awoken by the sound of numerous
dogs barking out of control and in very menacing tones.

The witness opened his eyes, looked at the watch and saw that it was
4:05 in the morning.

   Listening to the direction from which the sounds of the dogs were
coming, he went to the living room of his house and observed what the
dogs were barking at with such urgency.

   Under a street lamp he saw a person walking in the direction of his
house. He was coming from the sports field of Nacional, near the Dam
of Monserat, going in the direction of the hotels.  The person on foot
passed under the following street lamp and the witness saw the person
very well and clearly. He was a notably tall, thin, masculine, white
skin, short dark hair, a relatively young man who looked like a
Dutchman.

   He also saw the form (profile) of his head and one side of his face.

   The clothes he had on was a red tee shirt and long clear colored pants .

   Remarcable was that this person was walking with a limp, and here
is where the witness saw that he lacked one tennis shoe. He calculated
that from the way he was walking, he was missing the tennis shoes of
his right foot.

   Another thing that he noticed was that the person was breathing
heavily, as if he had been running for quite a while. His chest was
heaving up and down rapidly.
CLOTHES WERE WET

   The witness continued to declare (and proved with his test that he
was telling the truth) that the man he saw had on wet clothes, and had
a notable stripe of muddy waters that reached to his chest, about 5
centimeters more or less over his flannel.

   The stripe on his flannel showed clearly that from the muddy waters
going down his clothes were completely wet.

   At first the witness thought that this person had beenin a fight
and ran away so as not to receive any more blows. The side of his face
that the witness noticed, however, did not show any signs of blood or
blows.  But, due to the fact that the person did not once look over
his shoulder to check if anyone was following him, and continued to
walk with his head down and, with accelerated velocity, the witness
thought that he was involved in something else and not in a fight.

   The person continued to walk in front of his house until he lost
him from sight, and in no instance did the man look up or back, and
continued to walk in the direction of the hotels.

   All this happened in about 1 minute.

   After he lost the person from sight, the witness sat in his living
room for about 15 to 20 minutes before he went back to sleep.

   (DIARIO COMMENT: Here something else happened, that the witness did
not reveal to the local authorities, but well to the American
investigators. In our next publication DIARIO will reveal what else
the witness saw that eventful morning. The Polygraph test he took
proved that here too he was telling the truth!)

   The witness woke up and went to his work at about 11: a.m. Then the
news about Natalee's disappearance was on the radio and he found out
that there was a tourst teenager who did not make it back to her
hotel. He immediately remembered what he saw a few hours earlier

After the news became bigger, and they began to arrest the wrong
persons, the witness felt discouraged to come forward, and after he
saw that the young man Joran van der Sloot in the news, he recognized
him immediately as the person he saw walking past his home.

After he found out that the father of the man was a lawyer and
studying to become a judge, and that he was an intimate friend of a
high ranking police officer, he felt totally discouraged to come
forward with what he saw.

ON top of that, knowing that the Aruban judicial system is totally in
the hands of the Dutch, he forced himself to keep quiet. This lasted
for over 2 years, until the end of 2007, when he felt he had to tell
about what he saw, and so he came forward slowly, to explain what he
saw in front of his house, which is situated at about 500 meters from
the Dam of Monserat at Noord

He also got himself a lawyer, because the case was so big and he needed advice.

In the meantime, the Americans, with police permission, made a sonar
test of the Dam of Monserat in the beginning of this year, when the
level of the water was low. DIARIO has found out that this test
discovered 15 objects of interest and that they could define only 3 of
them.

IN another article, DIARIO will show how Prosecutor Mos paid little
attention to this witness and on the contrary, tried to discredit him.
This makes you wonder: Is it true that they want to protect van der
Sloot cost what it may?

Wait a minute!!  This could be the same person in this story.  So where did the  hotel room and tourist story come from?  This sounds like what Caps told me about the witness....and at BFN they said it was a person in a hotel room...interesting that they don't jive.  Where does it say this witness saw Paulus?  Now this is making more sense...the story by Pearl at BFN is not the same as Caps...but I think they are talking about the same person.  OK...I will wait to see if Mos does anything this time....he's had this info for months now and has not acted on it at all....I can't get my hopes up...we all know Mos disregarded Caps witness the last time...wonder if he will do anything this time.

Lala's...I ut  diario article through both the Pap and spanish translator and didn't see Paulus either...


BTW...Great post in Caylee's thread earlier

[CapsLockWizard]

This witness does not sound like Caps witness...that is good news.  That means there are two independent people that saw this happen.  Caps witness was a person that lived on Aruba and had a family there.  Caps knew this witness for about 3 1/2 years.  He said he lived in a house on the road where the pond is. So if this is a different person then... that is good news.  Mos has all the info on Caps witness and has done nothing.  Now if this witness can help we could be making progress.  Mos kept insisting there be more than one witness that could corroborate the same thing.  Let's keep our fingers crossed here.

 
It is my witness and to test the withenss in to see if he did not made the story up, he took the test. it was last week.

but the pond was where they hide the body, the next step was a funeral arrangement.

and that involved the Sumerians (the undertaker) = Wever

CAPS

[angelalala]

gotta run Monkeys...just wanted to post translation in case we didn't have it..no time to look back!! lol
Have a great day!!!

That's okay... I sent a PM to another member telling them to go ahead and bring that translation over here too... but at least it is already here now. I've sent Jossy a big... Thank YOU.

Thanks angelala...

My pleasure....

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks Angela for bringing it over...I hope this is something good.  I wish Mos wasn't so ingrained in the party line.  I think it clouds his vision of truth...will the PTB nip this in the bud too?  I am thinking they will try at the least.


I kept all Caps info on the witness just in case we should ever need it.  I can't wait to see if they act on it or let it slide again. 

[CapsLockWizard]

This witness does not sound like Caps witness...that is good news.  That means there are two independent people that saw this happen.  Caps witness was a person that lived on Aruba and had a family there.  Caps knew this witness for about 3 1/2 years.  He said he lived in a house on the road where the pond is. So if this is a different person then... that is good news.  Mos has all the info on Caps witness and has done nothing.  Now if this witness can help we could be making progress.  Mos kept insisting there be more than one witness that could corroborate the same thing.  Let's keep our fingers crossed here.

 
It is my witness and to test the withenss in to see if he did not made the story up, he took the test. it was last week.

but the pond was where they hide the body, the next step was a funeral arrangement.

and that involved the Sumerians (the undertaker) = Wever

CAPS

TEST given was in the USA last week

[Lala'sMom]

This witness does not sound like Caps witness...that is good news.  That means there are two independent people that saw this happen.  Caps witness was a person that lived on Aruba and had a family there.  Caps knew this witness for about 3 1/2 years.  He said he lived in a house on the road where the pond is. So if this is a different person then... that is good news.  Mos has all the info on Caps witness and has done nothing.  Now if this witness can help we could be making progress.  Mos kept insisting there be more than one witness that could corroborate the same thing.  Let's keep our fingers crossed here.

 
It is my witness and to test the withenss in to see if he did not made the story up, he took the test. it was last week.

but the pond was where they hide the body, the next step was a funeral arrangement.

and that involved the Sumerians (the undertaker) = Wever

CAPS

Thanks Caps.  I didn't know your witness was a tourist...I thought you told me it was a person you knew.  My mistake.