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MumInOhio
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Reply #580 on:
September 12, 2008, 07:48:55 AM »
Quote from: johan555 on September 12, 2008, 03:59:31 AM
About that evening in C&C
Joran was in C&C and Deepak & Satish also ?
I have read somewhere that they waited outside
The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car
.
Joran told often to tourists that he was not from Aruba but also on holiday
I have the idea that joran told Natalee that he will take a taxi and will bring her home
And that Natalee believed that she was
In
a taxi
Next Alana heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had
thought was a taxi
. (Those look like
regular
cars.)
June 14-2005
"NATALEE WAS NOT THE GIRL WHO WAS SICK IN THE BATHROOM AT C&C's! My daughter had already told me she was puzzled by that story 'cause she neither saw nor heard anything of the kind regarding Natalee. We were at the vigil yesterday and they were discussing that... It turned out to be other girls on the trip. Somebody had mentioned that at church and these girls went, "Oh no! That was US!" It was definitely not Natalee.
My daughter spoke with Natalee right after C&C's closed.
My daughter & her friends came across Nat & Joran as all were exiting the club, and all were walking more or less together toward another group of classmates.
Natalee was walking unassisted (not falling down drunk), spoke ok (though not answering in long sentences), and was not touching Joran. My daughter only noticed that Joran was tall, dark-haired, American-looking; he did not speak and she couldn't
read his facial expressions
.
Nat turned down my daughter's invitation to go with her little group. (Ironically, they were about to circle the inside of
another club
to make sure no others were left behind.)
Nat assured them that she was fine, and said she was going to go back to the hotel "with THEM," pointing to the MBHS group just a few yards ahead.
The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car.
Next Alana heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had thought was a taxi. (Those look like regular cars.)
It may be that the Kalpoes pulled up on the street before Natalee reached the next group; Joran may have deliberately stalled her. The group may not have even realized she was behind them, approaching. But while we hear that she got in the car willingly, we know from her comments that it was not her pre-planned intention.
Because of this, I do not believe she knew she would be going anywhere but a fairly short distance down to the hotel. Her plans changed in the blink of an eye, and she was gone."
Johan...there is a very early post on one of the Aruba boards by Alana's Mom that states that Natalee was last seen getting into a taxi. This was 5/30 or 5/31. Noy sure if I have it, but will look.
J2K's stories about going back to the car and the their time in C&Cs just don't match up. Then their is the story about Natalee going back inside C&Cs and being escorted out by Deepak.
IMO Deepak was driving - cab driver- and there was another car.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Never forget her, she is with us everyday.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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September 12, 2008, 08:05:43 AM »
Quote from: klaasend on September 11, 2008, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: texasmom on September 11, 2008, 09:42:30 PM
Post by angelalala at BFN
I have some news that will "seem" like ... bad news. I believe Tim will be coming home tomorrow. I don't believe any search was conducted. However, please also know... even assuming this disappointing news becomes fact... IT IS NOT THE END. I've also been told the next article from Diario will be on Monday. We need to hang onto our hearts and our hopes. I firmly believe... THERE WILL BE JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ... we are not alone on this road
MOS probably wouldn't allow him to search
This is so disappointing. ALE reminds me of Casey Anthony. I wonder if they realize how ridiculous they look each time they try to play these manipulative games. Obviously, they don't care how they are viewed by the world and public opinion of that island just becomes worse. The entire world knows that this is a cover up. What will it take????
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johan555
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Reply #583 on:
September 12, 2008, 08:48:36 AM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on September 12, 2008, 07:48:55 AM
Quote from: johan555 on September 12, 2008, 03:59:31 AM
About that evening in C&C
Joran was in C&C and Deepak & Satish also ?
I have read somewhere that they waited outside
The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car
.
Joran told often to tourists that he was not from Aruba but also on holiday
I have the idea that joran told Natalee that he will take a taxi and will bring her home
And that Natalee believed that she was
In
a taxi
Next Alana heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had
thought was a taxi
. (Those look like
regular
cars.)
June 14-2005
"NATALEE WAS NOT THE GIRL WHO WAS SICK IN THE BATHROOM AT C&C's! My daughter had already told me she was puzzled by that story 'cause she neither saw nor heard anything of the kind regarding Natalee. We were at the vigil yesterday and they were discussing that... It turned out to be other girls on the trip. Somebody had mentioned that at church and these girls went, "Oh no! That was US!" It was definitely not Natalee.
My daughter spoke with Natalee right after C&C's closed.
My daughter & her friends came across Nat & Joran as all were exiting the club, and all were walking more or less together toward another group of classmates.
Natalee was walking unassisted (not falling down drunk), spoke ok (though not answering in long sentences), and was not touching Joran. My daughter only noticed that Joran was tall, dark-haired, American-looking; he did not speak and she couldn't
read his facial expressions
.
Nat turned down my daughter's invitation to go with her little group. (Ironically, they were about to circle the inside of
another club
to make sure no others were left behind.)
Nat assured them that she was fine, and said she was going to go back to the hotel "with THEM," pointing to the MBHS group just a few yards ahead.
The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car.
Next Alana heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had thought was a taxi. (Those look like regular cars.)
It may be that the Kalpoes pulled up on the street before Natalee reached the next group; Joran may have deliberately stalled her. The group may not have even realized she was behind them, approaching. But while we hear that she got in the car willingly, we know from her comments that it was not her pre-planned intention.
Because of this, I do not believe she knew she would be going anywhere but a fairly short distance down to the hotel. Her plans changed in the blink of an eye, and she was gone."
Johan...there is a very early post on one of the Aruba boards by Alana's Mom that states that Natalee was last seen getting into a taxi. This was 5/30 or 5/31. Noy sure if I have it, but will look.
J2K's stories about going back to the car and the their time in C&Cs just don't match up. Then their is the story about Natalee going back inside C&Cs and being escorted out by Deepak.
IMO Deepak was driving - cab driver- and there was another car.
Joran told in a statement that Natalee asked him : are they your slaves or something
i think she asked him before that is this a normal taxi ? Joran : no a private taxi
I think the both K's were not in C&C but outside hanging around their "car "
what was their fun to go out with joran that night ???
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Reply #584 on:
September 12, 2008, 08:55:05 AM »
resigned Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:05 am
(RU)
Quote:
The investigation into the missing American teenager is still underway. At the end of this year, the criminal investigation and decide whether Justice suspect Joran van der Sloot is prosecuted or not.
iquitos Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:36 pm
Quote:
already knew there were some targets in the bog. he held them close to his chest until the appropriate willing witness was identified. i think this insomniac will go into the category of the
nocturnal gardener
or the
delusional stoned dump derelict
before it is all said and done. this is nothing but a publicity stunt, IMO. i don't buy his line that he was afraid to come forward because joran's dad is a judge. i think he needed some cash incentives. like the minor girls joran raped. jossy will do anything to sell his rag of a paper or to get back at those who sent Luis up the river
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BUCKSHOT
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Reply #585 on:
September 12, 2008, 08:56:59 AM »
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on September 12, 2008, 08:55:05 AM
These two were posted at RU:
resigned Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:05 am
(RU)
Quote:
The investigation into the missing American teenager is still underway. At the end of this year, the criminal investigation and decide whether Justice suspect Joran van der Sloot is prosecuted or not.
iquitos Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:36 pm
(RU)
Quote:
already knew there were some targets in the bog. he held them close to his chest until the appropriate willing witness was identified. i think this insomniac will go into the category of the
nocturnal gardener
or the
delusional stoned dump derelict
before it is all said and done. this is nothing but a publicity stunt, IMO. i don't buy his line that he was afraid to come forward because joran's dad is a judge. i think he needed some cash incentives. like the minor girls joran raped. jossy will do anything to sell his rag of a paper or to get back at those who sent Luis up the river
They talk some crazy stuff...
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Rob
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Reply #586 on:
September 12, 2008, 09:10:17 AM »
SS
I called the Dutch Consulate this morning in both LA and Chicago. They asked for an email and said it might take a little while to respond.
number 312-856-0110 and 1877-DUTCHHELP - 1-877-388-2443.
These numbers are both answered by an after hours service... but luvre that accent.
Email address is
nfo@dutchhelp.com
She said if I didn't hear back by later today to call back.
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Ree
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Reply #587 on:
September 12, 2008, 09:11:31 AM »
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on September 12, 2008, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on September 12, 2008, 08:55:05 AM
These two were posted at RU:
resigned Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:05 am
(RU)
Quote:
The investigation into the missing American teenager is still underway. At the end of this year, the criminal investigation and decide whether Justice suspect Joran van der Sloot is prosecuted or not.
iquitos Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:36 pm
(RU)
Quote:
already knew there were some targets in the bog. he held them close to his chest until the appropriate willing witness was identified. i think this insomniac will go into the category of the
nocturnal gardener
or the
delusional stoned dump derelict
before it is all said and done. this is nothing but a publicity stunt, IMO. i don't buy his line that he was afraid to come forward because joran's dad is a judge. i think he needed some cash incentives. like the minor girls joran raped. jossy will do anything to sell his rag of a paper or to get back at those who sent Luis up the river
They talk some crazy stuff...
They are some of the nastiest people I hope I never meet.
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Rob
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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September 12, 2008, 09:13:34 AM »
Quote
resigned Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:05 am (RU)
Quote:
The investigation into the missing American teenager is still underway. At the end of this year, the criminal investigation and decide whether Justice suspect Joran van der Sloot is prosecuted or not.
this is said every September and the result is always the same.
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wreck
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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September 12, 2008, 09:15:11 AM »
Johan:
Quote
I think the both K's were not in C&C but outside hanging around their "car "
what was their fun to go out with joran that night ???
[/color][/b]
EXCELLENt point!!
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BUCKSHOT
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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September 12, 2008, 09:17:45 AM »
A vision appears of Dennis Jacobs reviewing the evidence over a bowl of Frosted Flakes to determine whether or not to prosecute the case...He may even have consulted with Paulus VanderSloot as well...On conference call with Joran in Thailand...
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September 12, 2008, 09:25:13 AM »
I just remember a funny story Deetch told me when we were on the phone one day. I'm sure he wouldn't care if I told you all.
It was his birthday and he was on Wilshire Blvd. He saw the Dutch Consulate and he had a giant stack of Michelle's Boycott Aruba stickers in his car. He always takes them where ever he goes.
He walked in to the Consulate and asked to use the men's room and then proceeded to plaster a few hundred of them all over the bathroom..
BOYCOTT ARUBA
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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September 12, 2008, 09:32:08 AM »
Hmmmm. I see things haven't panned out so well...yet. Not surprised since we are dealing with Aruba.
Did we ever find out if Paulus worked with extraditions or not? I am having a hard time trying to keep up with two threads at once.
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my request has been forwarded to the embassy in Bangkok.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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This was posted February 8, 2008 @12:51 a.m.
a Midnight aowl (SHOCO) saw him from his veranda at 3:44 passing in fornt of his house....All muddy from the waste down....
I knew I had seen this news before...
Maybe sleepwalking runs in the family...
Paulus sleepwalks, with cell phone in hand, and is sometimes known to have late-night McDonald's cravings...
Joran, on the other hand, is know to sleepwalk to Carlos 'n Charlies for a late night beer, drug unsuspecting tourists, and sometimes finds himself covered in mud by the time he awakes in the morning.
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MumInOhio
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: Lala'sMom on September 12, 2008, 09:32:08 AM
Hmmmm. I see things haven't panned out so well...yet. Not surprised since we are dealing with Aruba.
Did we ever find out if Paulus worked with extraditions or not? I am having a hard time trying to keep up with two threads at once.
Lala's..I think Paulus did have. It fits the time period I was looking at for his 5 year contract with the Aruban government as a Lands Advocate and the extradiction I was thinking about. Now all I have to do is find the post that is saved somewhere in my computer about the two things...LOL
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Reply #596 on:
September 12, 2008, 10:04:26 AM »
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on September 12, 2008, 09:56:56 AM
This was posted February 8, 2008 @12:51 a.m.
a Midnight aowl (SHOCO) saw him from his veranda at 3:44 passing in fornt of his house....All muddy from the waste down....
I knew I had seen this news before...
Maybe sleepwalking runs in the family...
Paulus sleepwalks, with cell phone in hand, and is sometimes known to have late-night McDonald's cravings...
Joran, on the other hand, is know to sleepwalk to Carlos 'n Charlies for a late night beer, drug unsuspecting tourists, and sometimes finds himself covered in mud by the time he awakes in the morning.
Who posted that, Buckshot?
I remembered a similiar version of what we are hearing now.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Reply #597 on:
September 12, 2008, 10:16:10 AM »
Quote from: Magnolia on September 12, 2008, 10:04:26 AM
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on September 12, 2008, 09:56:56 AM
This was posted February 8, 2008 @12:51 a.m.
a Midnight aowl (SHOCO) saw him from his veranda at 3:44 passing in fornt of his house....All muddy from the waste down....
I knew I had seen this news before...
Maybe sleepwalking runs in the family...
Paulus sleepwalks, with cell phone in hand, and is sometimes known to have late-night McDonald's cravings...
Joran, on the other hand, is know to sleepwalk to Carlos 'n Charlies for a late night beer, drug unsuspecting tourists, and sometimes finds himself covered in mud by the time he awakes in the morning.
Who posted that, Buckshot?
I remembered a similiar version of what we are hearing now.
CLW
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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Quote from: wreck on September 12, 2008, 09:15:11 AM
Johan:
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I think the both K's were not in C&C but outside hanging around their "car "
what was their fun to go out with joran that night ???
[/color][/b]
EXCELLENt point!!
So do you both think that the statements K2 made about the drinks, aka Yard that Joran bought them in C&C's and later throwing the Yard cup out of the car is BS? (I know there's too much BS to sift through
)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #768 9/9 through 9/
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B
ut when paul picked up joran at that night with his red suzuki
and joran was full with mud ,there must be "mud" evidence on and in the chairs
i had the idea that they send the suzuki to holland to see if they can find some/any thing .
why did they do that ? were there earlier rumors about Mud ?
because paul 's statement was : that he was at home at that time
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===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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