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Author Topic: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #16  (Read 380472 times)
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« Reply #360 on: September 05, 2008, 08:19:55 PM »

I would think they would have conducted Nuclear DNA testing on the hair.  The mitochondrial testing would not have given them any more information than they already had.

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Nuclear DNA Testing: Within the cell nucleus, there is nuclear DNA. The nuclear DNA contains sequences which make up what is called chromosomes. One half of the nuclear DNA is inherited from the mother and the other half is inherited from the father. Nuclear DNA parentage testing provides an alternative to more conventional parentage blood testing methods. One factor which makes nuclear DNA testing useful in international cases is that the DNA tests do not require the use of live blood samples. This makes it possible to ship the samples from extreme distances. A number of laboratories claim to have an expertise in conducting DNA testing. Currently, the American Association of Blood Banks (AABB) is expanding its parentage testing certification and inspection program. This program includes standards and procedures for DNA testing as well as the more traditional parentage blood testing procedures. DNA parentage testing can achieve an even higher exclusion rate/plausibility of parentage ratio than conventional parentage blood testing.

Mitochondrial DNA: Within the cell cytoplasm there are organelles called mitochondria. The mictochondria contain mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) which is the type of DNA analyzed in order to identify deceased remains. Mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother, not from the father.

Parentage Blood Testing: Basic blood testing of the ABO, Rh and MN groupings does not constitute parentage blood testing. Parentage blood testing discloses the presence of specific antigens to indicate a particular genetic composition or "marker". The statistical analysis of the blood test results provides a likelihood of paternity if the putative parent is not excluded. Any parentage blood testing of a child, mother and father should involve a hierarchy of systems to establish the relative chance of paternity based on the probability of exclusion. That means that if a putative parent is not excluded by the basic red cell antigen test, further testing of the sample will be conducted until the putative parent is excluded or a likelihood of parentage can be calculated with an inclusion rate considered valid under the AMA/ABA Guidelines. Parentage blood tests include the basic red cell antigens, extended red cell antigens, red cell enzymes and serum proteins, and white cell enzymes. If the test results are inconclusive, the complete series of testing may be necessary, including testing of white cell antigens (Human Leukocyte Antigens or HLA). Electrophoresis testing of the red cell enzymes and serum proteins and HLA testing are highly sophisticated procedures which generally can be conducted only at a laboratory involved in organ transplant donor identification.


they already KNOW WHO THE MOTHER IS.

THEY don't know who the father is.

they are looking for specific markers.

they want to rule in or out someone or somebodies.

it's not that complicated when you understand how this works and what is going on in the case.

this will take longer than some of the other tests, because it is not high priority.

The high priority testing was done to determine if Caylee was alive or dead and if the LE should be looking for a live, living, breathing person in distress. That was ruled out. The remaining tests are not as time sensitive as the others.
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« Reply #361 on: September 05, 2008, 08:20:19 PM »

As I've watched Casey on video the past couple months, she seems very cold, very unemotional, and very manipulative.  She's all business when her friends and family are hystical over the missing child.  No, she wasn't in shock--it doesn't look like that.  She is emotionally cold and calculating enough to view her child as a piece of meat to sell for a very good price.  Casey has traded on her looks and body all her life, and would not hesitate to use Caylee the same way if she could profit from it.  Especially if she felt that she could anesthetize Caylee and she would not remember anything.  This would give Casey a sense of freedom from discovery of her crime.
I'm thinking like a Gramma here because I am one.I would think that if Casey had Caylee involved in the disgusting act of child porn or was letting her be sexually abused....wouldn't Cindy had noticed some signs of that?Cindy was Caylee's main care giver....I think she would have noticed some physical signs....?


I  would think she would have noticed some physical signs .
I'm sure she gave Caylee bath's .
I hope she wasn't  sexually abused.OMG
 I would think Cindy would have notice redness etc.
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« Reply #362 on: September 05, 2008, 08:20:56 PM »

i just saw a helicopter on stalker cam...

anyone got another link to a different view?

I just saw a banner plane 



Oh now............that is TOO FUNNY !!@
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« Reply #363 on: September 05, 2008, 08:22:57 PM »

I was so angry at NG's guest host the other night when she was basically calling those protester's losers and they should get a life.  

Protesting (last I remember) was anyone's right.  This family is not "going through turmoil" - they are defending a LIAR one by the way that THEY RAISED TO BE JUST THAT.

This is the Mom who was calling 911 and saying come and get my daughter. Now that she found out her grand daughter is missing she is all for the same daughter to be out of jail and be protected? Now that makes sense 
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« Reply #364 on: September 05, 2008, 08:23:17 PM »

if it was saturated wouldn't it knock George out when he drove the car or whoever else tested the car?

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THAT MEANS THAT CHLOROFORM WAS ADDED AFTER THE CAR WAS RETURNED TO THE HOME BY GEORGE AFTER THE IMPOUND.
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« Reply #365 on: September 05, 2008, 08:23:58 PM »

I still think that the LE needs to get a search warrant and check the freezer in the Anthony's garage.

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« Reply #366 on: September 05, 2008, 08:24:44 PM »

Stefany Kostakis was a friend of Jesus Ortiz

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"[Ortiz] was probably one of the best people I ever knew," said friend Stephanie Kostakis in an e-mail. "I never saw him without a smile on his face. He had a kind heart, a good head on his shoulders, and could brighten up anyone's day.

"I went to the viewing. Normally when you go they say the person should look 'at peace,' but he didn't," Kostakis continued in the e-mail. "He looked uncomfortable. It wasn't his time."
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« Reply #367 on: September 05, 2008, 08:24:45 PM »

if it was saturated wouldn't it knock George out when he drove the car or whoever else tested the car?

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THAT MEANS THAT CHLOROFORM WAS ADDED AFTER THE CAR WAS RETURNED TO THE HOME BY GEORGE AFTER THE IMPOUND.

I'm not so sure.  I think when the scientists and FBI Lab say saturated they mean in a testing sense.  George would have passed out if he was in the trunk on the way home.
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« Reply #368 on: September 05, 2008, 08:25:21 PM »

As I've watched Casey on video the past couple months, she seems very cold, very unemotional, and very manipulative.  She's all business when her friends and family are hystical over the missing child.  No, she wasn't in shock--it doesn't look like that.  She is emotionally cold and calculating enough to view her child as a piece of meat to sell for a very good price.  Casey has traded on her looks and body all her life, and would not hesitate to use Caylee the same way if she could profit from it.  Especially if she felt that she could anesthetize Caylee and she would not remember anything.  This would give Casey a sense of freedom from discovery of her crime.
I'm thinking like a Gramma here because I am one.I would think that if Casey had Caylee involved in the disgusting act of child porn or was letting her be sexually abused....wouldn't Cindy had noticed some signs of that?Cindy was Caylee's main care giver....I think she would have noticed some physical signs....?


I  would think she would have noticed some physical signs .
I'm sure she gave Caylee bath's .
I hope she wasn't  sexually abused.OMG
 I would think Cindy would have notice redness etc.



Is this why Casey was keeping Caylee away from the house?   
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« Reply #369 on: September 05, 2008, 08:26:56 PM »

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THAT MEANS THAT CHLOROFORM WAS ADDED AFTER THE CAR WAS RETURNED TO THE HOME BY GEORGE AFTER THE IMPOUND.
::MonkeyConfused::I go that part before, but why?  Did he think that would hide the other smells?  Or using it to clean the car?  So all bets are off with Casey using it?  Really confused now.
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« Reply #370 on: September 05, 2008, 08:27:04 PM »

if it was saturated wouldn't it knock George out when he drove the car or whoever else tested the car?

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THAT MEANS THAT CHLOROFORM WAS ADDED AFTER THE CAR WAS RETURNED TO THE HOME BY GEORGE AFTER THE IMPOUND.

Sure does.  AND, what about Casey driving the car to the Amscot parking lot to leave it there? Same goes for that scenario, too.

Sounds like the chloroform was used to clean the car.   

However, the LE said that they smelled the odor of a decomposing body in the car, too.

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« Reply #371 on: September 05, 2008, 08:28:52 PM »

if it was saturated wouldn't it knock George out when he drove the car or whoever else tested the car?

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THAT MEANS THAT CHLOROFORM WAS ADDED AFTER THE CAR WAS RETURNED TO THE HOME BY GEORGE AFTER THE IMPOUND.

um no that would mean when George picked up the car it had to already be in the car so he drove the car with the chloroform saturated in the air and he had no reaction..


SO u are saying that the Chloroform was used to clean the car and not to Kill Caylee which is it
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« Reply #372 on: September 05, 2008, 08:29:14 PM »

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« Reply #373 on: September 05, 2008, 08:29:30 PM »

As I've watched Casey on video the past couple months, she seems very cold, very unemotional, and very manipulative.  She's all business when her friends and family are hystical over the missing child.  No, she wasn't in shock--it doesn't look like that.  She is emotionally cold and calculating enough to view her child as a piece of meat to sell for a very good price.  Casey has traded on her looks and body all her life, and would not hesitate to use Caylee the same way if she could profit from it.  Especially if she felt that she could anesthetize Caylee and she would not remember anything.  This would give Casey a sense of freedom from discovery of her crime.
I'm thinking like a Gramma here because I am one.I would think that if Casey had Caylee involved in the disgusting act of child porn or was letting her be sexually abused....wouldn't Cindy had noticed some signs of that?Cindy was Caylee's main care giver....I think she would have noticed some physical signs....?


I  would think she would have noticed some physical signs .
I'm sure she gave Caylee bath's .
I hope she wasn't  sexually abused.OMG
 I would think Cindy would have notice redness etc.


Yes, I would agree that Cindy might have noticed physical signs, particularly because she is a nurse, if abuse occurred during the time Caylee was still living there. 
If this began after Casey left June l5th or 16th - then Cindy did not see Caylee during those 31 days. 

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« Reply #374 on: September 05, 2008, 08:29:51 PM »

if it was saturated wouldn't it knock George out when he drove the car or whoever else tested the car?

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THAT MEANS THAT CHLOROFORM WAS ADDED AFTER THE CAR WAS RETURNED TO THE HOME BY GEORGE AFTER THE IMPOUND.

I dunno.. I recall hearing the smell was so bad they drove with the windows open...maybe i am having a jr/sr moment??
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« Reply #375 on: September 05, 2008, 08:30:28 PM »

Oh man.  These people don't excel at anything!  Oh actually, running around in circles trying to cover things while someone else does the same and they smack heads in the middle.    Guess George knows huh..
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« Reply #376 on: September 05, 2008, 08:30:35 PM »

Watching Nancy Grace after catching up in forums. I have been awake for 39 hours and seeing double  Hitting the hay at 9 pm tonight. Will be here in the AM. Nite Monks.
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« Reply #377 on: September 05, 2008, 08:30:52 PM »

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« Reply #378 on: September 05, 2008, 08:31:35 PM »

I believe the Leonard Padilla should have stopped and considered his words prior to implying that Lee Anthony could be Casey's father.

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Brother may be tied to case
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Brother may be tied to case
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ORLANDO, FLA. --   The latest twist in the Casey Anthony case comes from the man who at one point gave her a “get out of jail free” card and may tie her brother, Lee Anthony, into the saga ...

Padilla said that officials ruled it was Caylee’s hair just by a process of elimination because the hair had a death ring around it and they know Casey is alive. The fact that the DNA is identical has something to do with who the father is, Padilla said.

“Would the DNA from a child resulting from a union from Lee and Casey have basically the same characteristics? Making the preliminary DNA check not definitive as to who the hair samples are from,” he said.

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Mitochondrial DNA: Mitochondrial DNA: Within the cell cytoplasm there are organelles called mitochondria. The mictochondria contain mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) which is the type of DNA analyzed in order to identify deceased remains. Mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother, not from the father.called mitochondria. The mictochondria contain mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) which is the type of DNA analyzed in order to identify deceased remains. Mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother, not from the father.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_1337.html

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Quote from: mbs on September 04, 2008, 03:59:12 PM

A mother's mitochondrial DNA is always identical to her children's mitochondrial DNA.  If all they tested was mitochondrial, then they would not be able to distinguish between Casey and Caylee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA

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« Reply #379 on: September 05, 2008, 08:31:59 PM »

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