Natalee Case Discussion #769 9/15/08 through 9/20/08

[SS]

I just thought of something.  If I recall, the Sloots are Roman Catholic.  Historically, Roman Catholics are not part of the Masons, although I understand that this is changing.  About 900 years ago, one of the Popes ordered the death of all Knights Templars in France.  For centuries, there was animosity between the two groups.  If Urine is Catholic, those protecting him might not be the Masons.

You're right....the Masons historically are Protestant only.

I was raised Catholic and my father always warned me to stay away from the Masonic Temple and any Masons.  He claimed it wasn't safe and they hated Catholics.   

I'm not sure how "catholic" the Sloots were/are.  Paulus quoted existentialism and Anita was into Buddhism.

That's the animosity that lasted for centuries.  After the Crusades, the Knights Templar started the first banking system in Europe.  They were a tremendously wealthy group.  Some feel that a lot of the gold, etc. was brought back from the Temples in Jerusalem when they returned from the Crusades.  The Templars and the Pope got into a power struggle.  Most of the Templars were living in France, and the Pope ordered all of them killed on the same day. If I recall it was a Friday the 13th which started that superstition.  Those who managed to survive headed for Scotland which is where the Masons were started in Roslyn.  Some of this was brought out in the DaVinci Code book.

[johan555]

caps do you think Shango is a Freemasons ?

I will say yes or was part of the organiszation and probably still is but wrote it for the world to solve. he can not talk but wrote it in a way that we have to puzzel it out.

or knew alot about the organization, to the point where he knew we could follow shango with free masonry

 Yes he mislead those who it deserve

[SS]

This is the crypt of Sir William St. Clair (Sinclair) at Roslyn Chapel in Roslyn, Scotland.  He is my 16th great grandfather and the founder of the Freemasons.  He was a Knights Templar.

[LoRain]

I just thought of something.  If I recall, the Sloots are Roman Catholic.  Historically, Roman Catholics are not part of the Masons, although I understand that this is changing.  About 900 years ago, one of the Popes ordered the death of all Knights Templars in France.  For centuries, there was animosity between the two groups.  If Urine is Catholic, those protecting him might not be the Masons.

You're right....the Masons historically are Protestant only.

nono
Not only is Freemasonry a religion, its highest authorities claim that it is superior to Christianity. Freemasonry is considered to be the highest and purest form of religion

I don't believe that Masons think their religion is higher than God's....if that's what you are saying....

[klaasend]

Ok, let's not get into this Mason's/Freemason's are good/are bad discussion again.

It has nothing to do with the Mason's in general and everything to do with Aruba and a corrupt few.

[SS]

Does anyone know if Beth's father or Dave Holloway are Masons?  If so, this could have been the motivation for the higher powers in Aruba to bury Natalee in a Masonic Cemetery.

[LoRain]

Is there any proof at all to this "Natalee being buried in a Masonic Cemetary?...please post it if there is....

[klaasend]

Is there any proof at all to this "Natalee being buried in a Masonic Cemetary?...please post it if there is....

You're kidding right?

[LoRain]

I guess I am..."loose lips sink ships"...right?

[SS]

Is there any proof at all to this "Natalee being buried in a Masonic Cemetary?...please post it if there is....

The speculation comes from good sources.  We have 15 "guests".

[LoRain]

I see....   

[Ono]

I just thought of something.  If I recall, the Sloots are Roman Catholic.  Historically, Roman Catholics are not part of the Masons, although I understand that this is changing.  About 900 years ago, one of the Popes ordered the death of all Knights Templars in France.  For centuries, there was animosity between the two groups.  If Urine is Catholic, those protecting him might not be the Masons.

You're right....the Masons historically are Protestant only.

nono
Not only is Freemasonry a religion, its highest authorities claim that it is superior to Christianity. Freemasonry is considered to be the highest and purest form of religion

Here is a terrific site regarding all aspects of Freemasonry:

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/mackeyfr.html

My grandfather was in the Scottish Rite :

[Magnolia]

From Masonic funerals the line that I always remember is:

"And the melancholy truth is the moment we are born we begin to die."

I love the melancholy truth part.

[Ono]

I just thought of something.  If I recall, the Sloots are Roman Catholic.  Historically, Roman Catholics are not part of the Masons, although I understand that this is changing.  About 900 years ago, one of the Popes ordered the death of all Knights Templars in France.  For centuries, there was animosity between the two groups.  If Urine is Catholic, those protecting him might not be the Masons.

You're right....the Masons historically are Protestant only.

I was raised Catholic and my father always warned me to stay away from the Masonic Temple and any Masons.  He claimed it wasn't safe and they hated Catholics.   

I'm not sure how "catholic" the Sloots were/are.  Paulus quoted existentialism and Anita was into Buddhism.

I know...

As far as the official religious affiliations of the parents Sloot,  that's always been a mystery to me.   There certainly is an apparent lack of morals which seems to permeate their lives, in my opinion, so  either they have cast aside any early Christian childhood training, [ if there was any], or they are just basically opportunistic pragmatic heathens. 

[SS]

I just thought of something.  If I recall, the Sloots are Roman Catholic.  Historically, Roman Catholics are not part of the Masons, although I understand that this is changing.  About 900 years ago, one of the Popes ordered the death of all Knights Templars in France.  For centuries, there was animosity between the two groups.  If Urine is Catholic, those protecting him might not be the Masons.

You're right....the Masons historically are Protestant only.

I was raised Catholic and my father always warned me to stay away from the Masonic Temple and any Masons.  He claimed it wasn't safe and they hated Catholics.   

I'm not sure how "catholic" the Sloots were/are.  Paulus quoted existentialism and Anita was into Buddhism.

I know...

As far as the official religious affiliations of the parents Sloot,  that's always been a mystery to me.   There certainly is an apparent lack of morals which seems to permeate their lives, in my opinion, so  either they have cast aside any early Christian childhood training, [ if there was any], or they are just basically opportunistic pragmatic heathens. 

 

[Ono]

This is the crypt of Sir William St. Clair (Sinclair) at Roslyn Chapel in Roslyn, Scotland.  He is my 16th great grandfather and the founder of the Freemasons.  He was a Knights Templar.

That is fantsatic, SS.  I applaud your love of History and of family legacy. [ I am a fellow Scot. ]   That is a treasure.

[sharon]

I am sneaking a peek at work but just wanted to confirm Magnolia's memory... SOMEONE went ballistic whenever this topic came up... I am thinking it was not Wonder Woman.. but the crazy gal from the south (US) who's avatar was of a little stick figure of a woman with a purse and she argued with Bondia alot.  She always threatened to leave and then she'd always come back and beetch some more.  God I can't remember her name.  Klaas and crew will remember based on my description I bet.  LOL

 

Bless her heart 

[SS]

The Knights Templars were tortured and killed in France on Friday, October 13, 1307 by King Philip IV and Pope Boniface VIII.

[klaasend]

I am sneaking a peek at work but just wanted to confirm Magnolia's memory... SOMEONE went ballistic whenever this topic came up... I am thinking it was not Wonder Woman.. but the crazy gal from the south (US) who's avatar was of a little stick figure of a woman with a purse and she argued with Bondia alot.  She always threatened to leave and then she'd always come back and beetch some more.  God I can't remember her name.  Klaas and crew will remember based on my description I bet.  LOL

 

Bless her heart 

[Frijole]

I am sneaking a peek at work but just wanted to confirm Magnolia's memory... SOMEONE went ballistic whenever this topic came up... I am thinking it was not Wonder Woman.. but the crazy gal from the south (US) who's avatar was of a little stick figure of a woman with a purse and she argued with Bondia alot.  She always threatened to leave and then she'd always come back and beetch some more.  God I can't remember her name.  Klaas and crew will remember based on my description I bet.  LOL

 

Bless her heart 

Now THAT is funny.
She drove me BONKERS.