Natalee Case Discussion #769 9/15/08 through 9/20/08

[klaasend]

Dayhiker - I have to wait for the real deal...I go nuts trying to make sense out of those translations.   

[texasmom]

Speaking of Dompig....seems there is a "clarification" in tomorrow's Awemainta (my translation...so may not be correct  )  But I think it's clarifying the fact that Dompig is not the Police Commisioner even though he is pictured in the uniform in the article about his security company.



This is the original article:

[Dayhiker]

Dayhiker - I have to wait for the real deal...I go nuts trying to make sense out of those translations.   

Yep. Papi is not the most popular language among internet translators. 

[Dayhiker]

Speaking of Dompig....seems there is a "clarification" in tomorrow's Awemainta (my translation...so may not be correct  )  But I think it's clarifying the fact that Dompig is not the Police Commisioner even though he is pictured in the uniform in the article about his security company.

They must have short memories. The bum was shown the door after bungling the case.

[texasmom]

Speaking of Dompig....seems there is a "clarification" in tomorrow's Awemainta (my translation...so may not be correct  )  But I think it's clarifying the fact that Dompig is not the Police Commisioner even though he is pictured in the uniform in the article about his security company.

They must have short memories. The bum was shown the door after bungling the case.

Yep...and I still think there is a connection to the Kalpoes. 

7/30/2008

[texasmom]

Dayhiker - I have to wait for the real deal...I go nuts trying to make sense out of those translations.   

English translation now PLEASE!!!!   

I'm going nuts too!     And my patience is at an all time low. 

[IBE]

I just thought of something.  If I recall, the Sloots are Roman Catholic.  Historically, Roman Catholics are not part of the Masons, although I understand that this is changing.  About 900 years ago, one of the Popes ordered the death of all Knights Templars in France.  For centuries, there was animosity between the two groups.  If Urine is Catholic, those protecting him might not be the Masons.

You're right....the Masons historically are Protestant only.

nono
Not only is Freemasonry a religion, its highest authorities claim that it is superior to Christianity. Freemasonry is considered to be the highest and purest form of religion

I respectfully disagree. The Masons are not a cult; are not a religion. The reason, I understand, that Catholics do not usually go past the 2nd or 3rd degrees as they have to swear there is noone between the communication of the individual and Jesus and God. IMO

Catholics believe the Pope is the spokesman for God to the people. IMO

I may have not remembered this correctly as it is from a question I asked of my parents years ago.. My father was a 32nd Degree and also a member of the Scottish Rite and my mom was Eastern Star.

[IBE]

Ok, let's not get into this Mason's/Freemason's are good/are bad discussion again.

It has nothing to do with the Mason's in general and everything to do with Aruba and a corrupt few.

Sorry Klaas. I am reading the pages backward!

[klaasend]

Ok, let's not get into this Mason's/Freemason's are good/are bad discussion again.

It has nothing to do with the Mason's in general and everything to do with Aruba and a corrupt few.

Sorry Klaas. I am reading the pages backward!

It's OK 

[Buckeye]

Posted by WorldJournier at BFN:

http://www.aetv.com/listings/episode_details.do?episodeid=360922

Hi All.... Bill Kurtis is outstanding. On your internationally cablecast "A & E" channel....

<QUOTE>

Big Spender (program show title)

“What Happened to Natalee Holloway?”

Rated: TVPG
Running Time: 60 Minutes


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Thursday, September 18 @ 11pm/10C
Friday, September 19 @ 3am/2C
Sunday, September 21 @ 4pm/3C

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Bill Kurtis hosts this documentary special that looks at the case that shocked the nation--the disappearance of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba on May 30, 2005. Natalee was last seen alive leaving a bar with three young local men, who became the prime suspects. Natalee's mother, Beth, is convinced that the men know what happened to her daughter, but authorities have been unable to come up with definitive proof that they are responsible for her death. Kurtis examines the key questions in the case: Will Natalee's body ever be found? Why can't authorities solve the case? And where did the investigation go wrong?

[San]

Posted by WorldJournier at BFN:

http://www.aetv.com/listings/episode_details.do?episodeid=360922

Hi All.... Bill Kurtis is outstanding. On your internationally cablecast "A & E" channel....

<QUOTE>

Big Spender (program show title)

“What Happened to Natalee Holloway?”

Rated: TVPG
Running Time: 60 Minutes


Upcoming Airings:

Thursday, September 18 @ 11pm/10C
Friday, September 19 @ 3am/2C
Sunday, September 21 @ 4pm/3C

Search for other upcoming episodes

Bill Kurtis hosts this documentary special that looks at the case that shocked the nation--the disappearance of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba on May 30, 2005. Natalee was last seen alive leaving a bar with three young local men, who became the prime suspects. Natalee's mother, Beth, is convinced that the men know what happened to her daughter, but authorities have been unable to come up with definitive proof that they are responsible for her death. Kurtis examines the key questions in the case: Will Natalee's body ever be found? Yes. Why can't authorities solve the case? Coverup. And where did the investigation go wrong? Van der Straaten, Karin Jansen & Judge Wit all friends of Paulus.

My answers in red. 

[johan555]

Here are the "family member's" posts from Riehl:

Quote:
I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.

I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious

[Jonathan45]

And don't forget the transaction at the bank in Noord at 1.15am. Joran was at the time leaving C&C. Was it Paulus ? My answer is yes.
Was Paulus in the casino the nightly hours Natalee vanished ? Yes, he was.
 

[johan555]

yes gbmw is alive on bfn mum
she is a patrick and sbs 6 fan
especialy patrick book is important for her > Have you read Patricks book?
overboard with that book overboard 

[johan555]

yes gbmw is alive on bfn mum
she is a patrick and sbs 6 fan
especialy patrick book is important for her > Have you read Patricks book?
overboard with that book overboard 

   
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[johan555]

Observer on Fok

In early June 2005 there was a witness who came forward and said he helped bury Natalee with two others using a tarp,white Pu and buried her in a shallow grave with two others. One of the helpers worked at the Marriott. This witness was then locked up in a Mental Hospital in Aruba. The Archives still should be at RWV as well as a tourist who witnessed this from her/his window.

[SS]

Dayhiker - I have to wait for the real deal...I go nuts trying to make sense out of those translations.   

Quick translation....Paulass was there   

[johan555]

Dayhiker - I have to wait for the real deal...I go nuts trying to make sense out of those translations.   

Quick translation....Paulass was there   

ow can you post that pap text here ?

[Destiny]

TUES. EMAIL FROM ARUBA.....
Des...


    Hi xxxxxx
    How are you today?
    Today we has published the second part of the information of the witness.
    Some interesting is tha the witness has saw Paulus van der Sloot and Joran nearby the pond in Monserat in a Red Jeep.
    And its thrue that they have a Red Jeep.
    But till now nothing from Mos, a declaration about this withness, nothing.
    We expect that he must give a conference to confirm the declaration and what they gone do again with this declaration, because its interesting.
     
    As soon that I know something more I let you know
    Bye have a nice day
xxxxxxxx

[BUCKSHOT]

Not sure if read here or elsewhere, but...

Was there rumor of a withdrawl from the bank?
If so, what time of the morning? 115am-ish or 3-4am-ish?

Is a possible conclusion reached that Paulus was not at home at all, but instead out and about himself prior to receiving a call for help from Joran?

Just wondering...

Does anyone know?