Natalee Case Discussion #769 9/15/08 through 9/20/08

[CapsLockWizard]

CAPS..I want to ask you if you have heard of someone but I see there is no PM system here....how can I ask you without posting it on the boards?...Thank you...

that is a bit difficult..may send it to klaasend

[Magnolia]

They planned it all so carefully, but they did not anticipate Beth.
As Joran said to Patrick:  "That mother....she just wouldn't go away."

So true.

Hi all!  Just chiming in to agree with you here... you got me thinking just how critical it was that Beth got on that private plane and got there as QUICKLY as she did.  Getting to the hotel in time to check the tapes and identifying Joran within hours.  GENIOUS.  The elders must have been sheeting bricks. God Bless Beth and the entire family for all they have endured.

Yes and Paulus' question to Beth was how did you get here to fast.  She f@#ked up their plans.

No wonder Paulus sweats so much!  It is all of that guilt coming out.

[LoRain]

Capslock - do not feel obligated to answer anyones questions here.  Might not be a good idea right now.

I'm sorry....it's just a name that I have that doesn't really have anything to do with all this discussion here lately...I would just like to be able to either put it to rest or keep trying to figure this person out....it's not directly related to the discussion lately....

If the name you have doesn't pertain to the NH case then for what purpose could you want to know if Caps knows this person?  I can only think of one reason and that's to identify who Caps is. 

Now please don't start jumping to conclusions....I don't care who CAPS is as long as he's/she's trying to solve the case...

Yes the name has to do with the case...just not the discussion....or should I say topic...that is going on now...

I can't say much more because I don't want to discuss it on the boards....that's all I can say....take it how you want to....

[SS]

I have often wondered if Beth and Dave read our threads at times like this.  If so, Beth and Dave - our thoughts are with you and I hope that you will soon have a resolution to the horror and loss that you have experienced.  We are with you.

[LoRain]

I would be willing to send it to Klaasend if that is what I need to do...

[Magnolia]

CAPS..I want to ask you if you have heard of someone but I see there is no PM system here....how can I ask you without posting it on the boards?...Thank you...

that is a bit difficult..may send it to klaasend

DON'T TRUST HER, CAPS.  SHE IS A BIFRON.

[BUCKSHOT]

Deepak 5/31/05 PV

On your question if Joran and the girl had stepped from my car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I will answer you no.

On your question if my brother has a mobile telephone: I will answer you yes. My brother has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx".

On your question if you can me tell what the girl wore, I answer you the following: She wore a blue jeans skirt and she wore a pale blue blouse. I wore a blue nail trousers and a red top

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Satish 5/31/05 PV

On your question if Joran and the girl had gotten out of the car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea; I answer you no. Joran and the girl never got out of Deepak’s car.

On your question if my brother has a mobile telephone; I answer you yes. My brother has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx". I have a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx".

On your question if you can me tell what the girl was wearing, I answer you the following: She wore a blue blouse and a skirt. I wore brown long trousers, a blue cap and a blue pullover. She had light straight hair and these were not braided

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Joran 5/31/05 PV

To your question, if I can tell you what the girl was wearing I answer you the following. She was wearing a blue jeans skirt and in my opinion a blue tank-top. I was wearing a blue jeans and blue/white shirt.

Thanks Magnolia!  

Their PV's were probably matched against one another with a thesaurus for new adjectives.

Plagiarism is punishable by death in Aruba...

[KYcat]

Caps -- on a lighter note-- I love your new avi!!  Cowboys?  Looking for Natalee?

I pray they find her. 

 

[KYcat]

Deepak 5/31/05 PV

On your question if Joran and the girl had stepped from my car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea;
I will answer you no.

On your question if my brother has a mobile telephone: I will answer you yes. My brother has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx".

On your question if you can me tell what the girl wore, I answer you the following: She wore a blue jeans skirt and she wore a pale blue blouse. I wore a blue nail trousers and a red top

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Satish 5/31/05 PV

On your question if Joran and the girl had gotten out of the car at the Fisherman’s Huts and walked by the sea; I answer you no. Joran and the girl never got out of Deepak’s car.

On your question if my brother has a mobile telephone; I answer you yes. My brother has a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx". I have a mobile telephone with the number "xxxxxxx".

On your question if you can me tell what the girl was wearing, I answer you the following: She wore a blue blouse and a skirt. I wore brown long trousers, a blue cap and a blue pullover. She had light straight hair and these were not braided

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Joran 5/31/05 PV

To your question, if I can tell you what the girl was wearing I answer you the following. She was wearing a blue jeans skirt and in my opinion a blue tank-top. I was wearing a blue jeans and blue/white shirt.

Thanks Magnolia!  

Their PV's were probably matched against one another with a thesaurus for new adjectives.

Plagiarism is punishable by death in Aruba...

IT'S THE ONLY THING PUNISHABLE BY DEATH THERE

[klaasend]

I would be willing to send it to Klaasend if that is what I need to do...

you can send the question to me and I'll forward to Caps

klaasend@scaredmonkeys.com

[LoRain]

CAPS..I want to ask you if you have heard of someone but I see there is no PM system here....how can I ask you without posting it on the boards?...Thank you...

that is a bit difficult..may send it to klaasend

DON'T TRUST HER, CAPS.  SHE IS A BIFRON.

Magnolia...you don't even know me....and I don't even know what a BIFRON is....although I think I saw it mentioned earlier....IF IT'S GONNA START SOME CRAP THEN JUST FORGET IT....I have enough BS as it is...thanks to folks that "think" they know me....

[bc73]

I would be willing to send it to Klaasend if that is what I need to do...

Why don't you just ask one of the other people on this board? I find it hard to believe there is a name that would suddenly appear out of thin air. I read this board every day and night,and find it strange last night you were asking basic questions about this case,yet tonight you need to "put a name to rest". It appears weird...

[klaasend]

I have often wondered if Beth and Dave read our threads at times like this.  If so, Beth and Dave - our thoughts are with you and I hope that you will soon have a resolution to the horror and loss that you have experienced.  We are with you.

Amen to that!

[LoRain]

I would be willing to send it to Klaasend if that is what I need to do...

you can send the question to me and I'll forward to Caps

klaasend@scaredmonkeys.com

THANK YOU Klaasend...I appreciate that..

[SS]

CAPS..I want to ask you if you have heard of someone but I see there is no PM system here....how can I ask you without posting it on the boards?...Thank you...

that is a bit difficult..may send it to klaasend

DON'T TRUST HER, CAPS.  SHE IS A BIFRON.

LoRain - the answer is yes, she was involved.

[LoRain]

I would be willing to send it to Klaasend if that is what I need to do...

Why don't you just ask one of the other people on this board? I find it hard to believe there is a name that would suddenly appear out of thin air. I read this board every day and night,and find it strange last night you were asking basic questions about this case,yet tonight you need to "put a name to rest". It appears weird...

I'm sorry I appear "weird"...I didn't think to ask CAPS til now....don't worry about it...it's really no biggie...

[LoRain]

CAPS..I want to ask you if you have heard of someone but I see there is no PM system here....how can I ask you without posting it on the boards?...Thank you...

that is a bit difficult..may send it to klaasend

DON'T TRUST HER, CAPS.  SHE IS A BIFRON.

LoRain - the answer is yes, she was involved.

I'm sorry...you lost me....

[BUCKSHOT]

Help me here---

Paulus timeline...                              
until 8p... Poker tournament                              
830p-1100a...Home w/Two kids
1100p-ish...Pick up Joran from McD
1130p-200a-ish...Home sleeping
200a-700a-ish...Out and about

Joran timeline...
until 11p-ish...Poker tournament
1100p-1130p...Home getting ready for CnC
1130p-130a...On way/at CnC
130a-700a... (???????????????)
700a...On bus stop-not near house.

Some have suggested Paulus was in casino all night...Does this mean he left at 200am upon receiving call...Does this mean no pick-up of Joran at 11pm?

I tend to think it was a normal Sunday evening for Paulus...Play a little poker to be with son...Go check on two kids to ready for school without Anita...Pick up Joran at 1130p...Watch TV and fall asleep...Get a middle of the night call from Joran who snuck out and needed help due to an emergency situation...

OR... I could be completely wrong. Paulus may never have made it home...Joran never would have had to sneak out...Paulus could have left from Casino to rescue his son at 2am.

Any thoughts....

[CapsLockWizard]

Caps -- on a lighter note-- I love your new avi!!  Cowboys?  Looking for Natalee?

I pray they find her. 

 

Remembr the movie name

[SS]

Help me here---

Paulus timeline...                              
until 8p... Poker tournament                              
830p-1100a...Home w/Two kids
1100p-ish...Pick up Joran from McD
1130p-200a-ish...Home sleeping
200a-700a-ish...Out and about

Joran timeline...
until 11p-ish...Poker tournament
1100p-1130p...Home getting ready for CnC
1130p-130a...On way/at CnC
130a-700a... (???????????????)
700a...On bus stop-not near house.

Some have suggested Paulus was in casino all night...Does this mean he left at 200am upon receiving call...Does this mean no pick-up of Joran at 11pm?

I tend to think it was a normal Sunday evening for Paulus...Play a little poker to be with son...Go check on two kids to ready for school without Anita...Pick up Joran at 1130p...Watch TV and fall asleep...Get a middle of the night call from Joran who snuck out and needed help due to an emergency situation...

OR... I could be completely wrong. Paulus may never have made it home...Joran never would have had to sneak out...Paulus could have left from Casino to rescue his son at 2am.

Any thoughts....

Buckshot - I think Paulass might have taken Urine home at 11:00 and then returned to the casino.  Anita was gone and he was on the prowl and feeding his gambling habit.  I don't think that Urine had to sneak out of the house.  He went home to change his clothes and then went back out with the Alpoe brothers to find their victim.  I don't think that Paulass was even concerned about where his boys were that night.  He was doing his own thing.