Natalee Case Discussion #769 9/15/08 through 9/20/08

[johan555]

[SS]

Chemaly, Renfro, Arendsz, Briezen, Joran, Satish, Deepak, Guido, Freddy, LVR, Steve Croes, and others like to attend parties.

[SS]

A good question would be when the witness that saw Deepak and Joran at the other area near the raquet club in the car.....what color shirt was Joran wearing then?  he saw him enough to identify him...so he should be able to tell us what color shirt he was wearing or if it was a t-shirt compared to a collared shirt.  Of course, we will never know now...since he has been discredited by the PTB. 

Think about who discredited the witnesses...

Gardener: When I was walking by the RacquetClub at about 230-300am, there was a car in the driveway, and as I passed, 3-4 males all hid/ducked so as to hide their faces...
ALE: Our records show you are an illegal resident of Aruba. You are going to be arrested and deported. We are on the way to lock you up and hand you over to customs agents.

Jogger: While I was out for my after hours jog, I spotted some pretty unusual stuff. Can I come to the station to discuss it further with you? It might have something to do with that missing American girl on the television.
ALE: No, not right now, we are busy. We will call you back later if we need you.. Quit jogging so late at night.

Woman(near RacquetClub): I saw several boys/men near the RacquetClub, going in and out near the time that girl went missing. They looked like they were searching for something.. They were in a silver car with these unusual tail light covers, like the ones I saw on TV.
ALE: Maam, thanks for the call. But, if you want you and your family to reamin safe, we suggest you to hang up the phone immediately and go on about your business.

Another witness: I can not hold this in any longer. It has been eating away at my conscience. I helped bury a blonde American girl with a tarp and white Pickup in a shallow grave with two other people. One of the guys worked at the Marriott.
ALE: You are crazy in the head. We are sending an abulance to your house right now. You clearly belong locked up in a mental hospital..

MountainBrook student: I am a student that was with Natalee on our senior trip to Aruba. On the last night we were in Aruba, we saw Joran Van der Sloot and his dad McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. It seems very suspicious to me. Could you please check into it.
ALE: You probably had a case of mistaken identity since you were probably under the efeects of alcohol. Joran was home on his computer studying for his exams and his dad was home asleep. Thanks for the call, though.

Kalpoe neighbor: The other night, I saw my neighbors, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, thoroughly washing out their vehicle, at a location beside their home, which was unusual.
ALE: We already spoke to them about it. They had ants all over their floorboards and, additionally, someone left a chocolate candy bar in their back seat and it melted. You know Deepak...very meticulous with his car...He was up all not using various cleaning solutions to get rid off those pesky ants and melted chocolate bar.

Dump witness: I saw a white pick-up truck at the dump the other day. There were several men, whom I think I recognized on TV. One guy was giving orders and the others were carrying something that looked like a dead body near a kiddie pool. Can I at least give you the license plate number of the vhicle for you to check out.
ALE: I do not have paper handy...Hold on...I can write it on this Frosted Flakes box..

Pond witness: I woke up in the middle of the night and saw a tall young man. He appeared to be missing a shoe. He was out of breath from walking and running and was heavily covered in mud. Then I saw a red jeep come by and pick him up. The jeep drove very, very slowly in the area, almost like they had dropped something by mistake. It seemed very suspicious to me..
ALE: It was probably just some teenagers up all night partying. We recommend that you start taking sleeping pills before you go to bed so you get a good night sleep in the future...

Did ALE really check out witness stories, before discrediting them...
OR
Did ALE discredit the witnesses, before even checking out their stories...

YOU BE THE JUDGE...
I THINK WE ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS RHETORICAL QUESTION...
 

Wasn't there also a woman named Maria?  Was she the one who's husband was a handyman for the Sloots and he claime that he buried the body?

[SS]

Renfro and Freddy have some great video equipment.  LVR has some friends in Miami who love to watch videos.

[johan555]

Renfro and Freddy have some great video equipment.  LVR has some friends in Miami who love to watch videos.

and Mr Pink ?

[Ree]

Renfro and Freddy have some great video equipment.  LVR has some friends in Miami who love to watch videos.

Wasn't there a rumor that Renfro had once "been in the business"?  Had to have been long before she got so ugly.

[Blonde]

http://judicial-inc.biz/J_oran62.jpg
Pic of Ben (Voc)King
Someone should add him to the who's who thread.

Would love to see a pic of Frans Deutekom.
I have never seen pic of him..

That Ben Vocking is not the one on Aruba.  That is a Dutch priest.

That judicial site has a LOT of wrong info on it

[SS]

Renfro and Freddy have some great video equipment.  LVR has some friends in Miami who love to watch videos.

Wasn't there a rumor that Renfro had once "been in the business"?  Had to have been long before she got so ugly.

JR escorts people around the island - Urine. Guido, LocoStef, and many others.  She has lots of escort ads in BonDia.  Chemaly and Guido are light in their loafers.  Urine isn't plays both ways.

[SS]

Renfro and Freddy have some great video equipment.  LVR has some friends in Miami who love to watch videos.

and Mr Pink ?

Yup, P.B.

[klaasend]

Renfro and Freddy have some great video equipment.  LVR has some friends in Miami who love to watch videos.

and Mr Pink ?

Yes, at the time Mr. Pink would have been a perfect person to "market" the videos

[Blonde]

http://judicial-inc.biz/J_oran62.jpg
Pic of Ben (Voc)King
Someone should add him to the who's who thread.

Would love to see a pic of Frans Deutekom.
I have never seen pic of him..

That Ben Vocking is not the one on Aruba.  That is a Dutch priest.

Hear he is

[Blonde]

Deepak 5/31/05 PV


On your question if you can me tell what the girl wore, I answer you the following: She wore a blue jeans skirt and she wore a pale blue blouse. I wore a blue nail trousers and a red top

This is a great explantion for the red T'shirt. regardless of whether Joran is that much bigger than Deepak, in a pinch he could wear a T'shirt much smaller, especially if his other shirt need to be destroyed due to blood or fluid evidence. I like to wear an X-Large size T'shirt  but can fit into a Medium if I have to. I can very easily see Joran commandeering Deepak's T'shirt that night. It would be no problem for him to go down two or three sizes.

red top and watching porn

[johan555]

Renfro and Freddy have some great video equipment.  LVR has some friends in Miami who love to watch videos.

Wasn't there a rumor that Renfro had once "been in the business"?  Had to have been long before she got so ugly.

no that was Gielen 

[SS]

This is basically the key to Merian Ernest and a few of the other codes.  It’s still open to other interpretations and changes.

Mary = Natalee
Yellowhammer = Natalee
The Lamb = Joran
The sacrifice = Joran
Shivas = The Kalpoes
Hindus = The Kalpoes
Dirty Hand = DTKM, Public Prosecuter, behavior specialist
The Elder = Voking
Fallen Judge = Paulus
His Lordship = probably the Prime Minister
Sumerian – the undertaker, Masons
Babylonians = Higher Powers, Masons
Arawaks = native Arubans
Arawak King = Prime Minister or Posner
Olorum = supreme being
46th Spirit = a spirit with swollen features of a rotting corpse
Bifron = monster, Sicarios
Teepees = businesses on the island
Roll = using Ecstacy
Keystone = center of corruption, Dirty Hand
The Lions = dangerous people involved in Natalee’s death and coverup
The Maze = location of the rave parties, Matty Apts.
The Palace = Matty Apts.
Sacrifice = Joran
Cowboys = TES, Holloways, searchers
Indians = Arubans
Loot = Natalee
Wampum = income to Aruba, money
Occam’s Razor = keep it simple
Doppleganger = and invisible shadow, a double
Eden = truth
Cowboy Gods = US media
5th Suspect = ? Several possibilities
The Gods = Attorney General Theresa Croes-Fernandez Pedra
Party-goers = Chemaly, Renfro, Arendsz, Briezen, Joran, Satish, Deepak, Guido,
   Freddy, LVR, and others.
Yellowhammer = Natalee
Yellowbird = cool and crazy guy from earlier in the week, the 5th
Simian, Merian Ernest = Armin Solognier
Babylonian Palace = Masonic Lodge
Head Doctor = Bushi Wever
The Whisperer = Mito Cores
Croupier = Guido Wever
The Tracy = TJ Ward
Son of the Rising Sun – Chemaly, BonDia logo
Jaguar = Dutch Coast Guard Ship
Silent Antennas = tetra police radios, cell towers, Edmond Croes
Ganga = Julia
The Old Cowboy = Tim Miller
Primate = the killer
Gringos = TES
The Mutts = search dogs
Fake Diploma = Booshi Wever
Dutch Bugs = Dutch F16s
Chief Babylonian = Dompig
The Dead End = Monserat Pond
Gold Bricks = the banks
Macamba = Sloots
Haystack = Hooiberg
Grease on the floor = evidence of another party
Horses = SUVs
Holds the Hammer = van der Stratan
Emily = hurricane
Federales = FBI
Jet Ski Boy = Max DeVries
Sabana Basora = Rene von Heynigen
Conuco = small Aruban homes
Cool and Crazy Guy = the 5th suspect, the murderer
House of Rave = Matty Apartments
The Music Man’s Song was not on the bill = Steve Croes alibi wasn’t planned
The Package from the Hague = DNA
Tricked out cars and PCs = changes made to the computers and Deepak’s Honda
Hindus – Kalpoes
Didn’t Build Sandcastles = they weren’t at the beach
Black bellied tree ducks = Kalpoes
Robed ones = judges, Masons
Passageways used once before = another woman also died at another party
Mary who was not a virgin = Julia
Papi the Butterfly – Armin Solognier
The Key = possibly the video tape
Dead Dogs = dogs killed by Lorenzo
XTC = Ecstacy, drugs
Daury = Paulus, Voking, DTKM, van der Straten
Late for school = Paulus was late for his class
El Padre = the priest
The Lamb = Natalee, headstone
The News = BonDia
The Alibi = possibly a party at Lorenzo’s house
Who switched places and sent him home = Paulus ?
The Ping = an insult
The House was Dusted = Rufo Solognier was assigned to clean up Matty Apts.
Babylonian movies = porn videos
The Confrontation = the murder
The Dirty Water = Monserat pond
Innocent Young Flies = girls, American tourists

[johan555]

Welcome here bastibro  !!

[wreck]

Renfro and Freddy have some great video equipment.  LVR has some friends in Miami who love to watch videos.

Wasn't there a rumor that Renfro had once "been in the business"?  Had to have been long before she got so ugly.

no that was Gielen 

I'm nauseous thinking about either one.   

[johan555]

This is basically the key to Merian Ernest and a few of the other codes.  It’s still open to other interpretations and changes.

Mary = Natalee
Yellowhammer = Natalee
The Lamb = Joran
The sacrifice = Joran
Shivas = The Kalpoes
Hindus = The Kalpoes
Dirty Hand = DTKM, Public Prosecuter, behavior specialist
The Elder = Voking
Fallen Judge = Paulus
His Lordship = probably the Prime Minister
Sumerian – the undertaker, Masons
Babylonians = Higher Powers, Masons
Arawaks = native Arubans
Arawak King = Prime Minister or Posner
Olorum = supreme being
46th Spirit = a spirit with swollen features of a rotting corpse
Bifron = monster, Sicarios
Teepees = businesses on the island
Roll = using Ecstacy
Keystone = center of corruption, Dirty Hand
The Lions = dangerous people involved in Natalee’s death and coverup
The Maze = location of the rave parties, Matty Apts.
The Palace = Matty Apts.
Sacrifice = Joran
Cowboys = TES, Holloways, searchers
Indians = Arubans
Loot = Natalee
Wampum = income to Aruba, money
Occam’s Razor = keep it simple
Doppleganger = and invisible shadow, a double
Eden = truth
Cowboy Gods = US media
5th Suspect = ? Several possibilities
The Gods = Attorney General Theresa Croes-Fernandez Pedra
Party-goers = Chemaly, Renfro, Arendsz, Briezen, Joran, Satish, Deepak, Guido,
   Freddy, LVR, and others.
Yellowhammer = Natalee
Yellowbird = cool and crazy guy from earlier in the week, the 5th
Simian, Merian Ernest = Armin Solognier
Babylonian Palace = Masonic Lodge
Head Doctor = Bushi Wever
The Whisperer = Mito Cores
Croupier = Guido Wever
The Tracy = TJ Ward
Son of the Rising Sun – Chemaly, BonDia logo
Jaguar = Dutch Coast Guard Ship
Silent Antennas = tetra police radios, cell towers, Edmond Croes
Ganga = Julia
The Old Cowboy = Tim Miller
Primate = the killer
Gringos = TES
The Mutts = search dogs
Fake Diploma = Booshi Wever
Dutch Bugs = Dutch F16s
Chief Babylonian = Dompig
The Dead End = Monserat Pond
Gold Bricks = the banks
Macamba = Sloots
Haystack = Hooiberg
Grease on the floor = evidence of another party
Horses = SUVs
Holds the Hammer = van der Stratan
Emily = hurricane
Federales = FBI
Jet Ski Boy = Max DeVries
Sabana Basora = Rene von Heynigen
Conuco = small Aruban homes
Cool and Crazy Guy = the 5th suspect, the murderer
House of Rave = Matty Apartments
The Music Man’s Song was not on the bill = Steve Croes alibi wasn’t planned
The Package from the Hague = DNA
Tricked out cars and PCs = changes made to the computers and Deepak’s Honda
Hindus – Kalpoes
Didn’t Build Sandcastles = they weren’t at the beach
Black bellied tree ducks = Kalpoes
Robed ones = judges, Masons
Passageways used once before = another woman also died at another party
Mary who was not a virgin = Julia
Papi the Butterfly – Armin Solognier
The Key = possibly the video tape
Dead Dogs = dogs killed by Lorenzo
XTC = Ecstacy, drugs
Daury = Paulus, Voking, DTKM, van der Straten
Late for school = Paulus was late for his class
El Padre = the priest
The Lamb = Natalee, headstone
The News = BonDia
The Alibi = possibly a party at Lorenzo’s house
Who switched places and sent him home = Paulus ?
The Ping = an insult
The House was Dusted = Rufo Solognier was assigned to clean up Matty Apts.
Babylonian movies = porn videos
The Confrontation = the murder
The Dirty Water = Monserat pond
Innocent Young Flies = girls, American tourists

the Bank ?

[Destiny]

Email just in from Aruba...followed up by phone call from to them.....Des...

*reply from Aruba to what I sent today*

 Hallo xxxxxxx;

We have had not any comment about this article.But I think no news is good news. But I think in a few days we have more information I feel it.
But as soon I know something I shoot it to you.
 
Bye
xxxxxxx

*what I sent today*
    Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008,

    Hello xxxx,

    I read a translated copy of the article in Diario...Part2....EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!!

    Is Mos leaving for vacation?  Is Paulus upset with the article....What are people in Aruba saying about the article?

    Thanks,

    Have a Great Day!

  xxxxxx

I called Aruba right after this email reply to me....the excitement level is so thick you can cut it with a knife...when I said that Mos maybe had to change his underware after reading this article....after major laughs...I was told wail 'till after the next article in a few days....LOL

I was told that not much info could be given to me on the phone today...but they think I will be very happy with the news....when I asked if this was a joint effort between Holland and USA...there were more laughs...the good kind....and was told that what will happen is very big....

That's it for today....Destiny

[wreck]

I was told that not much info could be given to me on the phone today...but they think I will be very happy with the news....when I asked if this was a joint effort between Holland and USA...there were more laughs...the good kind....and was told that what will happen is very big....

That's it for today....Destiny

EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR!!!

THANKS, DES!!

[always 1]

Thanks Destiny.   Wreck did you see my new signature line????