Natalee Case Discussion #769 9/15/08 through 9/20/08

[wreck]

collusion

[Lala'sMom]

Well...well...well...after seeing the A&E story tonight I have concluded that Mos is a useless person placed in the right location to continue to do nothing...Dolf Richardson has not read all those pages and pages and pages of information because there is nothing he cares to find out...I still can't stand Cohen...that's all I will say about him...I would get banned for sure....and still the perps are out and living the life and Natalee is still missing. 

I did however see somethings in the video I would like to see again...I noticed a person that Mum, SS, and I have been looking for if I am correct...but I need to see it all again...also I am sure now that one reason they can't solve this case is because they won't stop blaming everyone but the guilty!!

I think I am getting mad all over again.  I want to take that video apart piece by piece...is anyone else interested?

[Rob]

I give the show an 8.

not much new, but it was a terrific show and maybe if the ratings are good enough they will do another follow-up show. I wasn't happy that they dedicated only 3 minutes at the very end to a possible conspiracy. That alone deserves an hour onto itself.

We're always ahead of the curve here at SM and most do not know anywhere near what we know - so the message was spread - STAY WAY FROM ARUBA!

People unaware of what happened and tuning in, saw a story that didn't look like a brochure and sure re-enforced the message we have all been spreading for three plus years.

The last three minutes dealing with a conspiracy saw to that. So, the boycott rolls on and Natalee got more exposure... all in all - a  good night. A very good night.

[wreck]

I give the show an 8.

not much new, but it was a terrific show and maybe if the ratings are good enough they will do another follow-up show. I wasn't happy that they dedicated only 3 minutes at the very end to a possible conspiracy. That alone deserves an hour onto itself.

We're always ahead of the curve here at SM and most do not know anywhere near what we know - so the message was spread - STAY WAY FROM ARUBA!

People unaware of what happened and tuning in, saw a story that didn't look like a brochure and sure re-enforced the message we have all been spreading for three plus years.

The last three minutes dealing with a conspiracy saw to that. So, the boycott rolls on and Natalee got more exposure... all in all - a  good night. A very good night.

I have to agree, but as far as the 3 minutes of "conspiracy" they only scratched the surface.

[klaasend]

Well...well...well...after seeing the A&E story tonight I have concluded that Mos is a useless person placed in the right location to continue to do nothing...Dolf Richardson has not read all those pages and pages and pages of information because there is nothing he cares to find out...I still can't stand Cohen...that's all I will say about him...I would get banned for sure....and still the perps are out and living the life and Natalee is still missing. 

I did however see somethings in the video I would like to see again...I noticed a person that Mum, SS, and I have been looking for if I am correct...but I need to see it all again...also I am sure now that one reason they can't solve this case is because they won't stop blaming everyone but the guilty!!

I think I am getting mad all over again.  I want to take that video apart piece by piece...is anyone else interested?

Yes, I want to as well.  I may not be able to start tonight though 

[Rob]

I can't help but think of the little school girl that was raped by her classmates and the older man only to be castigated. That is so wrong on so many levels... and by the way, please don't pass those photos around on your phones.

This is wrong and someone needs to stop all this before there is a more harm. I think what happened to Natalee is enough. It's more than enough.

Prosecuting these animals is the quickest way to protect a woman that may one day be your wife or mother.

Rob, May I ask? What photos? TY

photos the criminals took with their own camera phones during the assault.

++++

one more point all -

we all read the Diario, 24ora, 24awe and how many ambulances do you see daily?

hard to tell me that people don't call an ambulance. I only see four or five ambulance a day on 24awe alone per day.

[cajun miracle]

NO comments from CAPS????

[wreck]

I would have also liked to have seen an attempt to speak to our FBI -- even if it was only a  "we can't comment"!

[cajun miracle]

I can't help but think of the little school girl that was raped by her classmates and the older man only to be castigated. That is so wrong on so many levels... and by the way, please don't pass those photos around on your phones.

This is wrong and someone needs to stop all this before there is a more harm. I think what happened to Natalee is enough. It's more than enough.

Prosecuting these animals is the quickest way to protect a woman that may one day be your wife or mother.

Rob, May I ask? What photos? TY

photos the criminals took with their own camera phones during the assault.

++++

one more point all -

we all read the Diario, 24ora, 24awe and how many ambulances do you see daily?

hard to tell me that people don't call an ambulance. I only see four or five ambulance a day on 24awe alone per day.

TY Rob. I had never heard that.

[Lala'sMom]

Of course, while I was watching everything Shango went through my head...sorry I can't help it...I am beyond help there...but I could just hear a few words going through my head...thought I would share...maybe I won't get booted for tangoing in the wrong thread tonight....



Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:54 pm
I can confirm they are there. The 3 of them. Remember the Kalpoes know nothing they were informed aournd the pool deck by Joran.

Based on my knowledge they will be confronted. A set up for the behaviour specialists?

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 4:02 pm
The Kalpoes have nothing to spill. They don’t (know) what the father did. Only Joran knows why he called his Dad in the middle of the night.

Simian Says:June 25th, 2005 at 6:47 pm
There are 3 vehicles.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 6:57 pm
The phone call made in the small hours.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:00 pm
The boy is biting his tongue. It is all chewed up, bloody and sore.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:28 pm
The father is trapped in a legal check mate.

The boy is mutilating his own tongue. He doesn’t want to let the old man down.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:36 pm
In the other car.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:41 pm
Kalpoes went home. Joran stayed behind. Somebody had to come get him.

Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:44 pm
Not even a confession will help.

One witness is not a witness.

The body is needed.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
The fallen judge agreed to sing because he can hum any tune
He needs to sing for his son, or see the end of his babylonian offspring

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:22 pm
Because the fallen judge agreed, he can sing any song he wants
A poisonous siren in the halls of babylon
He will sing to keep doors open, much to the cowboys distress

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
One straight path
to the house of Rave,
while of gold bricks
the road is not paved,
answers mysterious lie within
magical letters which spell sin
XTC DNA

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:36 pm
All that the gamblers knew was written down. They knew the girl. She spent her nights at their tables.


Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:58 pm
DirtyHand knows the Babylonians that provided escort after the 2 shivas left

[Lala'sMom]

Well...well...well...after seeing the A&E story tonight I have concluded that Mos is a useless person placed in the right location to continue to do nothing...Dolf Richardson has not read all those pages and pages and pages of information because there is nothing he cares to find out...I still can't stand Cohen...that's all I will say about him...I would get banned for sure....and still the perps are out and living the life and Natalee is still missing. 

I did however see somethings in the video I would like to see again...I noticed a person that Mum, SS, and I have been looking for if I am correct...but I need to see it all again...also I am sure now that one reason they can't solve this case is because they won't stop blaming everyone but the guilty!!

I think I am getting mad all over again.  I want to take that video apart piece by piece...is anyone else interested?

Yes, I want to as well.  I may not be able to start tonight though 

Well You know I can't screen capture anything...but there was a woman I want a shot of to study if you don't mind.  I will need to look at it all again...maybe tomorrow...I need to get some sleep.

[Poochy]

I can't help but think of the little school girl that was raped by her classmates and the older man only to be castigated. That is so wrong on so many levels... and by the way, please don't pass those photos around on your phones.

This is wrong and someone needs to stop all this before there is a more harm. I think what happened to Natalee is enough. It's more than enough.

Prosecuting these animals is the quickest way to protect a woman that may one day be your wife or mother.

Rob, May I ask? What photos? TY

photos the criminals took with their own camera phones during the assault.

++++

one more point all -

we all read the Diario, 24ora, 24awe and how many ambulances do you see daily?

hard to tell me that people don't call an ambulance. I only see four or five ambulance a day on 24awe alone per day.

"photos the criminals took with their own camera phones during the assault."

Yes - remember Sander G. said he "lost his phone around that time" and that he said he'd 'burn in the fire' (say whaaa??) for Joran, his SWA" whatever the F**k that meant.  Hope it wasn't a reference to the island's St. Johns Day where they 'lit the fires'.

Remember -
"...If they find the girl then they will see the sh*t" so says Deepak to Joran....what 'sh*t is that? the missing sneaker, her key card, her $50 bill, her brown sanals, etc......?
 

[Rob]

I can't help but think of the little school girl that was raped by her classmates and the older man only to be castigated. That is so wrong on so many levels... and by the way, please don't pass those photos around on your phones.

This is wrong and someone needs to stop all this before there is a more harm. I think what happened to Natalee is enough. It's more than enough.

Prosecuting these animals is the quickest way to protect a woman that may one day be your wife or mother.

Rob, May I ask? What photos? TY

photos the criminals took with their own camera phones during the assault.

++++

one more point all -

we all read the Diario, 24ora, 24awe and how many ambulances do you see daily?

hard to tell me that people don't call an ambulance. I only see four or five ambulance a day on 24awe alone per day.

TY Rob. I had never heard that.

cajun, it's in our crime thread where Ms. Maple doc'd all the crimes we could find.

[Buckeye]

I just can't believe that they said ,that the data extraction technology wasn't available for the computers, three years ago.  They got their new info from the computers for the rearrest. The technology was there and available seven years ago, at least. My son took computer forensics, in college.  Maybe Aruba should have utilized FBI assistance.  The info and data would have been accessed early on. Of course, they would have had to confiscate the computers, three years ago.   

[Lala'sMom]

I give the show a 5 for now...I knew everything they talked about...nothing new in there, but I did see some things I want to take a closer look at.

I know now why Mos has done nothing...he's part of it or he's just plain out of the loop.  Richardson said he wanted some new evidence...well I know for a fact that the witness Caps handed them on a silver platter has been questioned over and over and now has a polygraph to prove his story and yet...there is no movement on the case.  Mos had this witness already on record and did nothing.  I have no idea for sure when the A&E show was made, but if it was within the last...let's say...4 months...Mos already knew about this witness. 

Where is the rest of the info from Jossy...it's time to hear more.  I am getting impatient again...sorry.

[cajun miracle]

I can't help but think of the little school girl that was raped by her classmates and the older man only to be castigated. That is so wrong on so many levels... and by the way, please don't pass those photos around on your phones.

This is wrong and someone needs to stop all this before there is a more harm. I think what happened to Natalee is enough. It's more than enough.

Prosecuting these animals is the quickest way to protect a woman that may one day be your wife or mother.

Rob, May I ask? What photos? TY

photos the criminals took with their own camera phones during the assault.

++++

one more point all -

we all read the Diario, 24ora, 24awe and how many ambulances do you see daily?

hard to tell me that people don't call an ambulance. I only see four or five ambulance a day on 24awe alone per day.

TY Rob. I had never heard that.

cajun, it's in our crime thread where Ms. Maple doc'd all the crimes we could find.

TY Rob. It must be a brain fart cause I sure had forgotten that.

[Rob]

Well...well...well...after seeing the A&E story tonight I have concluded that Mos is a useless person placed in the right location to continue to do nothing...Dolf Richardson has not read all those pages and pages and pages of information because there is nothing he cares to find out...I still can't stand Cohen...that's all I will say about him...I would get banned for sure....and still the perps are out and living the life and Natalee is still missing. 

I did however see somethings in the video I would like to see again...I noticed a person that Mum, SS, and I have been looking for if I am correct...but I need to see it all again...also I am sure now that one reason they can't solve this case is because they won't stop blaming everyone but the guilty!!

I think I am getting mad all over again.  I want to take that video apart piece by piece...is anyone else interested?

Yes, I want to as well.  I may not be able to start tonight though 

Well You know I can't screen capture anything...but there was a woman I want a shot of to study if you don't mind.  I will need to look at it all again...maybe tomorrow...I need to get some sleep.

I think I saw her, so, I'll grab her tomorrow. LOL

[Lala'sMom]

Well...well...well...after seeing the A&E story tonight I have concluded that Mos is a useless person placed in the right location to continue to do nothing...Dolf Richardson has not read all those pages and pages and pages of information because there is nothing he cares to find out...I still can't stand Cohen...that's all I will say about him...I would get banned for sure....and still the perps are out and living the life and Natalee is still missing. 

I did however see somethings in the video I would like to see again...I noticed a person that Mum, SS, and I have been looking for if I am correct...but I need to see it all again...also I am sure now that one reason they can't solve this case is because they won't stop blaming everyone but the guilty!!

I think I am getting mad all over again.  I want to take that video apart piece by piece...is anyone else interested?

Yes, I want to as well.  I may not be able to start tonight though 

Well You know I can't screen capture anything...but there was a woman I want a shot of to study if you don't mind.  I will need to look at it all again...maybe tomorrow...I need to get some sleep.

I think I saw her, so, I'll grab her tomorrow. LOL

I think it might be someone's mother we have looked for forever..is that the same person you are talking about? I hope so.

[Buckeye]

Cohen, the inside, informed man.

Friday, January 20, 2006
Cohen: Suspects had sex with Holloway
The spokesperson of the Strategic Communications Task Force, Steve Cohen, said that two of the Holloway-suspects had sex with Natalee Holloway, something that the authorities have not confirmed up till now. On the Task Force website, Aruba Truth, is an article on Cohen’s speech at a conference of the Caribbean Hotel Association (CHA) in Puerto Rico, in which he said that two of the boys had consensual sex with Holloway. Statements have since been clarified (Aruba Truth)


Aruba believes it is most important to get a hold of her mental state and most importantly, Natalee's physical state at the time of disappearance. "Two of the boys said they had consensual sex with her. Whether consensual or not, depends on her ability to be conscious and make a choice," said Cohen."

[wreck]

Cohen is STILL in a CYA mode. His reputation is shot.