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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #769 9/15/08 through 9/20/08  (Read 297866 times)
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« Reply #960 on: September 20, 2008, 09:58:41 AM »

Good Morning...for Lala's and Rob...from my notes

Van der straten said; front page June10th.2005
Deputy Police Chief Jan van der Straten said Holloway met van der Sloot in the casino attached to her hotel two days before she disappeared. Family friends say Holloway knew that van der Sloot had spent much of the week playing cards in the casino with a group of boys from the trip.
Employees at the Holiday Inn casino said van der Sloot and….snipped
 
From the Mountain Brook Student Quotes…Alana
 
June 12th, 2005 3:30 pm:
He was playing in the casino in our hotel a few nights before. I guess Natalee liked him well enough to hang out with him over the next few days…
   
June 12th, 2005 3:46 pm:
she didn’t know he couldnt drive.. he lied to all of us about his age

 




So Joran could be the 5th suspect?  Well, now this is even better.  This thought came to me while watching the A&E special the other night. We have debated this before, but never actually talked too much about it because of the way we count suspects.

Mum I know this is against all you and I and a few others think, but let's look at it for a minute..

1. Mickey Johns
2. Abraham Jones
3. Deepak Kalpoe
4. Satish Klapoe
5 Joran van der Sloot


OK, now this could make sense if all the criteria are met...let's look at that also...

1. Boyfriend from earlier....played in casino...Natalee knew of him early on.
2. Scorned lover...
3. Cool and crazy guy....met in casino...

OK, that's where it ends for me...I would need to know about a party Joran hosted...and he left and others provided the alibi...OK...again...that doesn't work....NEXT...


and then you have Paulus...that did come to pick Joran up...it has been discussed that Paulus' alibi was his two kids Val and Sebastian.  I am still working on that one.  Several things fit nicely into this scenario and some things don't. It depends if you believe Simian was telling the truth or not.  If you believe everything Simian says or only what is convenient and works for your theory.  I guess I am back to the drawing board...again.




The 5th

- Was the cool and crazy guy from ealier in the week - Paulus isn't cool and crazy
- Ex- boyfriend - Paulus didn't have an "affair" with Natalee
- Was seen on tape - the casino tape or an HI tape and witnessed by Elizabeth Cain?
- Had a party at his house - Paulus was in the casinos
- Had an alibi so tight. Friends say they were with him the entire night.  Friends will protect     
   friends - Lorenzo had an alibi by Arendsz and others that they were with him
- Val and Sebastian aren't friends - they are the children of Paulus

Oh yes, speaking of Elizabeth...I may have something on that in the future if things work out.  I wish I knew how to post her affidavit here so we could look at it and see what you are talking about.
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« Reply #961 on: September 20, 2008, 10:04:12 AM »

When a mod arrives to lock this thread...if you would please post a screen capture of Elizabeth Cain's statement to the FBI if we can find it...I don't know how to do this...I would love to learn the secret...hint hint.....

Thanks a bunch. 
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« Reply #962 on: September 20, 2008, 10:05:12 AM »

KILL EM ALL



The look on Deepak's face in the middle picture has always screamed guilty to me!  In contrast, Satish always appeared calm.
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« Reply #963 on: September 20, 2008, 10:05:36 AM »

When a mod arrives to lock this thread...if you would please post a screen capture of Elizabeth Cain's statement to the FBI if we can find it...I don't know how to do this...I would love to learn the secret...hint hint.....

Thanks a bunch. 

Where is the statement Lala's?
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« Reply #964 on: September 20, 2008, 10:11:24 AM »

(or is that "Paulus" Walnuts??) 

I didn't know walnuts grew on Aruba.  Little did I know.
Those are "chin nuts"!!! 
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« Reply #965 on: September 20, 2008, 10:11:27 AM »

When a mod arrives to lock this thread...if you would please post a screen capture of Elizabeth Cain's statement to the FBI if we can find it...I don't know how to do this...I would love to learn the secret...hint hint.....

Thanks a bunch. 

Where is the statement Lala's?

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« Reply #966 on: September 20, 2008, 10:25:03 AM »

Elizabeth Cain
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« Reply #967 on: September 20, 2008, 10:27:50 AM »

Elizabeth Cain

Thanks SS.
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« Reply #968 on: September 20, 2008, 10:30:15 AM »

San..... I am all set to lock KKKKKKK??? 
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« Reply #969 on: September 20, 2008, 10:31:32 AM »

readyyyyyyyyy setttttttttt               LOCK           ??? 
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« Reply #970 on: September 20, 2008, 10:31:51 AM »

 
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« Reply #971 on: September 20, 2008, 10:33:18 AM »

I have posted in the Shango thread about the tapes where the 5th was supposedly seen with Natalee earlier in the week.  I have come to a conclusion that the tapes which show the 5th, are not the ones that we have seen with Paulass in the casino.  I believe that Elizabeth Cain did see Natalee with the 5th at the Holiday Inn bar.  Therefore, there are security tapes that we haven't seen.  We know that Holiday Inn security tapes exist because Beth went through the tapes when she first arrived at the Holiday Inn.  She was simultaneously on the phone with Natalee's Twitty cousins while they were describing Urine.  It was from looking through the Holiday Inn security tapes that Beth was able to identify Urine as the person who left C&Cs with Natalee, based on MB statements.  ALE must have the rest of the tapes which show what Elizabeth Cain saw on Sautrday.  These are most likely the tapes that the codetalkers refer to.
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« Reply #972 on: September 20, 2008, 10:33:26 AM »

San..... I am all set to lock KKKKKKK??? 

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« Reply #973 on: September 20, 2008, 10:34:50 AM »

Very interesting SS ...
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« Reply #974 on: September 20, 2008, 10:34:53 AM »

readyyyyyyyyy setttttttttt               LOCK           ??? 

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« Reply #975 on: September 20, 2008, 10:35:40 AM »

OK WE ARE SHORT A FEW POSTS 
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« Reply #976 on: September 20, 2008, 10:36:01 AM »

If I knew that, then I had forgotten. Thanks.  I knew Beth went over the tapes, but did not know other details.
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« Reply #977 on: September 20, 2008, 10:36:13 AM »

LOL - I came to make sure there was someone here to lock the thread 
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« Reply #978 on: September 20, 2008, 10:36:44 AM »


THEY DESERVE THEIR DAUGHTER BACK



Yes they do Kermit.
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« Reply #979 on: September 20, 2008, 10:37:02 AM »

 
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