Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #20

[higherhopes]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

Higherhopes, I'd like to continue also.  There are some worrisome details and incidents that have happened that need explanation.

I  agree   and like I said this was just starting to make sense to me had we had time to  continue our discussion....theres no telling what else would have come to light...

[AZLady]

Yes.  It is quite serious.  A child's disappearance is serious. 

[Kristin]

What I have read is that a pedophile will go to great lengths to present himself as a very normal and kind individual to the parent or caretaker.  They need to get past the parent or caretaker to get to the child.  From what I've observed, Casey would have been a pedophiles dream of a mother.

So I don't know to much about pedophiles what did you read that made you believe that Casey would be a pedophiles dream?

[mytime]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.

[mytime]

Have any of you read David Peltzers books: A Child Called IT, The Lost Boy and A man Named Dave?   OMG, unbelievable true story of one the most disgusting cases of child abuse.

It's required reading at my kids middle school!

WOW!

[Kristin]

Yes.  It is quite serious.  A child's disappearance is serious. 

You are hilarious thank you but I wasn't talking about a child's disappearance I was talking about the other peoples names that were being thrown around being implicated in crimes

[noctrnlmom]

 

Well it's all just speculation.  If it was true I'd do a 180 degree turn
Then KC's stories would make total sense

All the A's would end up in witness protection

G-nite = )

1) Chloroform was found in trunk of car was not stated that it was used on Caylee
2) I don't think even LE has 100 percent confirmed it was Caylee
3) How do we Know she was promiscious I don't know the people she was having sex with
4) Not one person that KNEW Casey said she was a unattached mother that didn't love her kid..

I have read the 400 pages and not only did everyone say she was a good mom who didn't use drugs other the smoke weed...Only fact that we know about Casey is she is a liar and a thief that came from her own mouth...

You don't think LE has 100 percent confirmed it was Caylee?  Okay.  I am simply going by what the good sheriff has said in media reports.  He appears to be a reliable source.

I didn't suppose that you know the people Casey had sex with in the months of May and June. The documents released by OCSO show that Casey spent the night with Jesse Grund, Tony, and Ricardo within about a month.  Oh, I forgot Tony, the deputy who was fired.  In my book, this is promiscuity.  Now, most psych evals consider promiscuous as having 10 or more partners in a year.  Casey is well on her way during the months of May and June.

Casey's own mother and Casey herself have said that Caylee was more attached to Cindy than Casey.  Read it--it's in the documents.

I think LE said they have reason to believe it was caylee but not have fully come out and said caylee Anthony is dead and was in the back Of Casey's car..She stayed the night but do you know she was having sex with all of them? Yeah it does say that caylee was more attached to Cindy but it doesn't say Casey was an unattached mother you keep telling me to read the documents and..can you explain how she is so unattached but no one could say she was a bad mom? How does that work? Caylee being more attached to GM does not mean Casey was unattached...Anyway I am not here to defend Casey but facts are facts nobody knows all the facts but when people start throwing out names and have them involved in horrible things it's quite serious

[AZLady]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

Higherhopes, I'd like to continue also.  There are some worrisome details and incidents that have happened that need explanation.

I  agree   and like I said this was just starting to make sense to me had we had time to  continue our discussion....theres no telling what else would have come to light...

In watching the news and reading the reports, I always question why something occurred and why someone did what he/she did.  Most of the time, people's behavior is predictable; even people like Casey are predictable.  It's the things like Patrick B's visit to Casey, the visit by the Head of the Sex Crimes Unit, and the chloroform in the trunk that make me wonder why.  I can't just dismiss these things because they really did happen, so I look for a reason, a motivation.  Keep reading and looking higherhopes, and we'll talk again about what we've seen and read.

[noctrnlmom]

Well it's all just speculation.  If it was true I'd do a 180 degree turn
Then KC's stories would make total sense

All the A's would end up in witness protection

G-nite = )

sorry my post got lost! (inside of Kristin's post)

[higherhopes]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.

First of all thats just the way I talk when I say all hell broke loose I didnt mean it in a bad way I just meant that me and AZ were the only ones talking for awhile and therefore was having a conversation with each other and by all means I understand that everyone has the right to debate but then we couldnt continue because of all the messages that was coming up...also....alot of things have been brought up in here that was speculations and I think that the Anthony's have already aquired that black cloud without any help from us.....

[mytime]

Well it's all just speculation.  If it was true I'd do a 180 degree turn
Then KC's stories would make total sense

All the A's would end up in witness protection

G-nite = )

sorry my post got lost! (inside of Kristin's post)

Good nite

[AZLady]

Yes.  It is quite serious.  A child's disappearance is serious. 

You are hilarious thank you but I wasn't talking about a child's disappearance I was talking about the other peoples names that were being thrown around being implicated in crimes

Kristin, this is a discussion forum, as someone reminded me not long ago.  We speculate about the people involved in this situation.  We discuss theories and possibilities.  We do so with the caveat that we "think" or have "opinions."  I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that some of the people associated with a missing child and/or her family and associates might have committed a crime.  I would love to believe that all these people we read about and see on the evening news are good, kind, and wholesome, but I just don't think it's true. 

[mytime]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.

First of all thats just the way I talk when I say all hell broke loose I didnt mean it in a bad way I just meant that me and AZ were the only ones talking for awhile and therefore was having a conversation with each other and by all means I understand that everyone has the right to debate but then we couldnt continue because of all the messages that was coming up...also....alot of things have been brought up in here that was speculations and I think that the Anthony's have already aquired that black cloud without any help from us.....

Yes they have and for good reason but others have not yet been confirmed, that is my only point.

[Praying4Angels]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.

Ab-so-tootly NOT!! Whether they were guilty or not it would always be in the back of my mind and wreak havoc...bottom line we don't really KNOW anyone...that has been proven time and again...we think/percieve we do..but in truth we can't

[mytime]

Do you remember when the head of the sex crimes division of OCSO visited the Anthony home?  When asked, they said it was a "social visit."  However, others remarked on this as being interesting and possibly significant.

I just think this would have "leaked" already.  JMO

What do you mean?  This happened.

Who leaked there was sex abuse, a child porn ring, etc.?

[Kristin]

Yes.  It is quite serious.  A child's disappearance is serious. 

You are hilarious thank you but I wasn't talking about a child's disappearance I was talking about the other peoples names that were being thrown around being implicated in crimes

Kristin, this is a discussion forum, as someone reminded me not long ago.  We speculate about the people involved in this situation.  We discuss theories and possibilities.  We do so with the caveat that we "think" or have "opinions."  I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that some of the people associated with a missing child and/or her family and associates might have committed a crime.  I would love to believe that all these people we read about and see on the evening news are good, kind, and wholesome, but I just don't think it's true. 

I understand what a discussion forum is thank you for the tutorial however when using peoples real names who have not been implicated in  ANY crime is not right...that was and is my only point

[Lisa39]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.

First of all thats just the way I talk when I say all hell broke loose I didnt mean it in a bad way I just meant that me and AZ were the only ones talking for awhile and therefore was having a conversation with each other and by all means I understand that everyone has the right to debate but then we couldnt continue because of all the messages that was coming up...also....alot of things have been brought up in here that was speculations and I think that the Anthony's have already aquired that black cloud without any help from us.....

Yes they have and for good reason but others have not yet been confirmed, that is my only point.

There has been alot of people on here saying the same ting as AZLADY just the what if's.  I don't see why she is getting such a hard time for her own opinion

[mytime]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.

Ab-so-tootly NOT!! Whether they were guilty or not it would always be in the back of my mind and wreak havoc...bottom line we don't really KNOW anyone...that has been proven time and again...we think/percieve we do..but in truth we can't

Isn't that so sad.   

[AZLady]

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.

Ab-so-tootly NOT!! Whether they were guilty or not it would always be in the back of my mind and wreak havoc...bottom line we don't really KNOW anyone...that has been proven time and again...we think/percieve we do..but in truth we can't

So true.  We really don't know what happens in our neighbor's homes, or in the Anthony home.

[AZLady]

Do you remember when the head of the sex crimes division of OCSO visited the Anthony home?  When asked, they said it was a "social visit."  However, others remarked on this as being interesting and possibly significant.

I just think this would have "leaked" already.  JMO

What do you mean?  This happened.

Who leaked there was sex abuse, a child porn ring, etc.?

No one, to my knowledge.  The head of the sex crimes unit visited the Anthony home.  That was observed on video tape broadcast by local media.