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« Reply #1840 on: September 12, 2008, 04:34:49 AM »

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.


Ab-so-tootly NOT!! Whether they were guilty or not it would always be in the back of my mind and wreak havoc...bottom line we don't really KNOW anyone...that has been proven time and again...we think/percieve we do..but in truth we can't

So true.  We really don't know what happens in our neighbor's homes, or in the Anthony home.

I have always said you don't no somebody until you have lived with them!!
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« Reply #1841 on: September 12, 2008, 04:35:33 AM »

Yes.  It is quite serious.  A child's disappearance is serious. 




You are hilarious thank you but I wasn't talking about a child's disappearance I was talking about the other peoples names that were being thrown around being implicated in crimes

Kristin, this is a discussion forum, as someone reminded me not long ago.  We speculate about the people involved in this situation.  We discuss theories and possibilities.  We do so with the caveat that we "think" or have "opinions."  I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that some of the people associated with a missing child and/or her family and associates might have committed a crime.  I would love to believe that all these people we read about and see on the evening news are good, kind, and wholesome, but I just don't think it's true. 


I understand what a discussion forum is thank you for the tutorial however when using peoples real names who have not been implicated in  ANY crime is not right...that was and is my only point
And, thank you for the point.
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« Reply #1842 on: September 12, 2008, 04:37:49 AM »

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.


First of all thats just the way I talk when I say all hell broke loose I didnt mean it in a bad way I just meant that me and AZ were the only ones talking for awhile and therefore was having a conversation with each other and by all means I understand that everyone has the right to debate but then we couldnt continue because of all the messages that was coming up...also....alot of things have been brought up in here that was speculations and I think that the Anthony's have already aquired that black cloud without any help from us.....

Yes they have and for good reason but others have not yet been confirmed, that is my only point.

There has been alot of people on here saying the same ting as AZLADY just the what if's.  I don't see why she is getting such a hard time for her own opinion

AZ- is very smart.  She is very strong.  I know she can take as good as she can give it.  Am I right? AZ
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« Reply #1843 on: September 12, 2008, 04:39:38 AM »

Do you remember when the head of the sex crimes division of OCSO visited the Anthony home?  When asked, they said it was a "social visit."  However, others remarked on this as being interesting and possibly significant.

I just think this would have "leaked" already.  JMO

What do you mean?  This happened.

Who leaked there was sex abuse, a child porn ring, etc.?
No one, to my knowledge.  The head of the sex crimes unit visited the Anthony home.  That was observed on video tape broadcast by local media. 
And another thing.....someone said (It has never been proven that Caylee was sexually abused).....well no they wouldnt would they if she had never been examined for it so I say at this point anything is possible and I'm open to anything that can shed some light on this case and so thats what myself and AZ  were doing disscussing things that she had beem looking up and speculating about and I for one thought it was a darn good theory myself...
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« Reply #1844 on: September 12, 2008, 04:41:22 AM »

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.


First of all thats just the way I talk when I say all hell broke loose I didnt mean it in a bad way I just meant that me and AZ were the only ones talking for awhile and therefore was having a conversation with each other and by all means I understand that everyone has the right to debate but then we couldnt continue because of all the messages that was coming up...also....alot of things have been brought up in here that was speculations and I think that the Anthony's have already aquired that black cloud without any help from us.....

Yes they have and for good reason but others have not yet been confirmed, that is my only point.

There has been alot of people on here saying the same ting as AZLADY just the what if's.  I don't see why she is getting such a hard time for her own opinion

AZ- is very smart.  She is very strong.  I know she can take as good as she can give it.  Am I right? AZ
mytime, see my post count?  I've been here a long time.  I enjoy sharing information and discussing ideas with others.  Yes, I can hold my own in a conversation; no worries there.  Actually, I really am attracted to discussion lists for the endless possibilities they provide for education.  I also like to think I can provide a humble example of how to disagree politely and still allow everyone's opinion to be heard.
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« Reply #1845 on: September 12, 2008, 04:43:18 AM »

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.


Ab-so-tootly NOT!! Whether they were guilty or not it would always be in the back of my mind and wreak havoc...bottom line we don't really KNOW anyone...that has been proven time and again...we think/percieve we do..but in truth we can't

So true.  We really don't know what happens in our neighbor's homes, or in the Anthony home.

I have always said you don't no somebody until you have lived with them!!
Sadly, not even then i am afraid in MANY instances...this case is a good example...
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« Reply #1846 on: September 12, 2008, 04:44:04 AM »

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.


Ab-so-tootly NOT!! Whether they were guilty or not it would always be in the back of my mind and wreak havoc...bottom line we don't really KNOW anyone...that has been proven time and again...we think/percieve we do..but in truth we can't

So true.  We really don't know what happens in our neighbor's homes, or in the Anthony home.

I have always said you don't no somebody until you have lived with them!!
Sadly, not even then i am afraid in MANY instances...this case is a good example...

VERY VERY TRUE!!
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« Reply #1847 on: September 12, 2008, 04:44:46 AM »

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.


First of all thats just the way I talk when I say all hell broke loose I didnt mean it in a bad way I just meant that me and AZ were the only ones talking for awhile and therefore was having a conversation with each other and by all means I understand that everyone has the right to debate but then we couldnt continue because of all the messages that was coming up...also....alot of things have been brought up in here that was speculations and I think that the Anthony's have already aquired that black cloud without any help from us.....

Yes they have and for good reason but others have not yet been confirmed, that is my only point.

There has been alot of people on here saying the same ting as AZLADY just the what if's.  I don't see why she is getting such a hard time for her own opinion

AZ- is very smart.  She is very strong.  I know she can take as good as she can give it.  Am I right? AZ
mytime, see my post count?  I've been here a long time.  I enjoy sharing information and discussing ideas with others.  Yes, I can hold my own in a conversation; no worries there.  Actually, I really am attracted to discussion lists for the endless possibilities they provide for education.  I also like to think I can provide a humble example of how to disagree politely and still allow everyone's opinion to be heard.

That was attempt at being nice , right?   
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« Reply #1848 on: September 12, 2008, 04:47:12 AM »

The one belief that gives me hope in this case is that OCSO is proceeding cautiously and carefully, utilizing all the resources of the FBI and groups like TES.  Unlike some Caribbean countries, we have an outstanding LE force that is working this case.  They know much more than we do.  Until they show me otherwise, I put my faith in them and believe they will bring justice for Caylee.
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« Reply #1849 on: September 12, 2008, 04:48:13 AM »

hey AZ.....i really would like to continue our conversation sometimes....I was just starting to understand some things before all hell broke loose and so...

How did all hell break loose, people are debating their opinions.  Opinions that they feel passionate about.  Feel free to continue,  I just don't like anyone to be falsely accused of sex crimes.  That is hard stigma to live done especially when it is proven to be false.  I have seen it destroy peoples lives.  A dark cloud always hangs over them.  Seriuosly, if someone you knew was accused, found innocent.......would you still leave your child with them or allow your child to play at their house.


First of all thats just the way I talk when I say all hell broke loose I didnt mean it in a bad way I just meant that me and AZ were the only ones talking for awhile and therefore was having a conversation with each other and by all means I understand that everyone has the right to debate but then we couldnt continue because of all the messages that was coming up...also....alot of things have been brought up in here that was speculations and I think that the Anthony's have already aquired that black cloud without any help from us.....

Yes they have and for good reason but others have not yet been confirmed, that is my only point.

There has been alot of people on here saying the same ting as AZLADY just the what if's.  I don't see why she is getting such a hard time for her own opinion

AZ- is very smart.  She is very strong.  I know she can take as good as she can give it.  Am I right? AZ
mytime, see my post count?  I've been here a long time.  I enjoy sharing information and discussing ideas with others.  Yes, I can hold my own in a conversation; no worries there.  Actually, I really am attracted to discussion lists for the endless possibilities they provide for education.  I also like to think I can provide a humble example of how to disagree politely and still allow everyone's opinion to be heard.

That was attempt at being nice , right?   
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.  Yup.  Sure was...
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« Reply #1850 on: September 12, 2008, 04:50:36 AM »

I sincerely hope this suspicion of mine is not true.  I hope this is the simple case of a mother killing her child in a rage and hiding her body.  But, so many odd and weird things seem to be swirling around this case, that I don't think it's so simple.

Hi Az, I can't sleep so I am back reading your theory!  One of the problems with your theory, IMO, Is that Casey just met that crowd of friends. She had been lying, stealing, etc. for at least a year that I know of.

I don't understand what you mean.  I think Casey had lied and stolen most of her life.  I think many of the people at Fusian were just party-goers.  However, if you read what WebSleuths uncovered about Bruce Lam and his businesses, you might understand why I think he could have been involved in even more lucrative but illegal businesses.  I think Casey was the kind of mother with a child that these people would have tried to pull into an illegal proposition.

How do you know what Casey "has done her whole life!"  I am not sure what the laws are but if you don't have FACTS regarding yor last post, IMO you basically  have slandered a business, the owner and his wife with your theories.  Do you even know facts about these people.  I know I don't!!

I wrote: I think Casey had lied and stolen most of her life.  Notice--I wrote I think.  This means that I am expressing my thoughts, my opinions.  You may want to read the link I posted about Bruce Lam and his Fusian businesses.  Yes, they contain facts.  I don't need to copy and paste them here.  You can access it here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68364

If you don't know, then start reading.

But the "FACTS" that you are given are merely someone else's thoughts on another forum, nothing to back up even their claims.  Just because someone posted it there as their theory does not make it a fact, it is just their theory, and some of the companies listed have absolutely nothing to do with the nightclub that Casey attended, so some of their "facts" are wrong.
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« Reply #1851 on: September 12, 2008, 04:51:44 AM »

Do you remember when the head of the sex crimes division of OCSO visited the Anthony home?  When asked, they said it was a "social visit."  However, others remarked on this as being interesting and possibly significant.

I just think this would have "leaked" already.  JMO

What do you mean?  This happened.

Who leaked there was sex abuse, a child porn ring, etc.?
No one, to my knowledge.  The head of the sex crimes unit visited the Anthony home.  That was observed on video tape broadcast by local media. 
And another thing.....someone said (It has never been proven that Caylee was sexually abused).....well no they wouldnt would they if she had never been examined for it so I say at this point anything is possible and I'm open to anything that can shed some light on this case and so thats what myself and AZ  were doing disscussing things that she had beem looking up and speculating about and I for one thought it was a darn good theory myself...



 not only has it not been proved but it has never even been brought by anyone in the position of authority...Nobody here is privy to anything we all only know what we read and base our facts on that but I do not remember reading anywhere that LE or anyone that knows the Family there was possible sexual abuse while the possibilities are endless of what could have happen.

Regardless if I post 1 or a million posts my points and opinions shouldn't be looked down upon the number of posts doesn't mean you are smarter or no more about the case
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« Reply #1852 on: September 12, 2008, 04:51:48 AM »

A woman is auctioning off her virginity online.....................We know it is not Casey. 
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« Reply #1853 on: September 12, 2008, 04:51:54 AM »

Isn't it amazing?  Look around the cage and see what a diverse and interesting group of people we are!  We're typing our fingertips off trying to communicate with each other and find some common understanding.  You know, if people tried this hard face-to-face as we try to understand each other here, they could probably end all wars!   
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« Reply #1854 on: September 12, 2008, 04:52:17 AM »

ok   well AZ Im  gonna look through some things and continue on with the theory and see what I can come up with and when and if I have anything to add to our conversation I would be glad to run it by you and see what you think about it.....It was very good talking to you and I did learn some things I didnt know and so thanks for the talk......
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« Reply #1855 on: September 12, 2008, 04:55:55 AM »

A woman is auctioning off her virginity online.....................We know it is not Casey. 
::MonkeyLaugh::thats funny as heck..
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« Reply #1856 on: September 12, 2008, 04:58:08 AM »

Do you remember when the head of the sex crimes division of OCSO visited the Anthony home?  When asked, they said it was a "social visit."  However, others remarked on this as being interesting and possibly significant.

I just think this would have "leaked" already.  JMO

What do you mean?  This happened.

Who leaked there was sex abuse, a child porn ring, etc.?
No one, to my knowledge.  The head of the sex crimes unit visited the Anthony home.  That was observed on video tape broadcast by local media. 
And another thing.....someone said (It has never been proven that Caylee was sexually abused).....well no they wouldnt would they if she had never been examined for it so I say at this point anything is possible and I'm open to anything that can shed some light on this case and so thats what myself and AZ  were doing disscussing things that she had beem looking up and speculating about and I for one thought it was a darn good theory myself...



 not only has it not been proved but it has never even been brought by anyone in the position of authority...Nobody here is privy to anything we all only know what we read and base our facts on that but I do not remember reading anywhere that LE or anyone that knows the Family there was possible sexual abuse while the possibilities are endless of what could have happen.

Regardless if I post 1 or a million posts my points and opinions shouldn't be looked down upon the number of posts doesn't mean you are smarter or no more about the case

Kristin, some people like to discuss based on facts and others like to discuss based on opinions.  I am just not a gossiper and sure seems like are not either. 
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« Reply #1857 on: September 12, 2008, 05:00:40 AM »


But the "FACTS" that you are given are merely someone else's thoughts on another forum, nothing to back up even their claims.  Just because someone posted it there as their theory does not make it a fact, it is just their theory, and some of the companies listed have absolutely nothing to do with the nightclub that Casey attended, so some of their "facts" are wrong.


Hmm...are we reading the same link?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68364

I read entry after entry of whois records, IP records, whitepages records, imdb entries, corporation license records, business license records.  These are factual data.  Theories are created from the facts. 
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« Reply #1858 on: September 12, 2008, 05:01:33 AM »

ok   well AZ Im  gonna look through some things and continue on with the theory and see what I can come up with and when and if I have anything to add to our conversation I would be glad to run it by you and see what you think about it.....It was very good talking to you and I did learn some things I didnt know and so thanks for the talk......
Same here, higherhopes.  Talk to you later.
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« Reply #1859 on: September 12, 2008, 05:03:24 AM »

Do you remember when the head of the sex crimes division of OCSO visited the Anthony home?  When asked, they said it was a "social visit."  However, others remarked on this as being interesting and possibly significant.

I just think this would have "leaked" already.  JMO

What do you mean?  This happened.

Who leaked there was sex abuse, a child porn ring, etc.?
No one, to my knowledge.  The head of the sex crimes unit visited the Anthony home.  That was observed on video tape broadcast by local media. 
And another thing.....someone said (It has never been proven that Caylee was sexually abused).....well no they wouldn't would they if she had never been examined for it so I say at this point anything is possible and I'm open to anything that can shed some light on this case and so thats what myself and AZ  were doing discussing things that she had beem looking up and speculating about and I for one thought it was a darn good theory myself...



 not only has it not been proved but it has never even been brought by anyone in the position of authority...Nobody here is privy to anything we all only know what we read and base our facts on that but I do not remember reading anywhere that LE or anyone that knows the Family there was possible sexual abuse while the possibilities are endless of what could have happen.

Regardless if I post 1 or a million posts my points and opinions shouldn't be looked down upon the number of posts doesn't mean you are smarter or no more about the case

Kristin, some people like to discuss based on facts and others like to discuss based on opinions.  I am just not a gossiper and sure seems like are not either. 




You are right especially when it is attached to people that have nothing to do with anything except for unfortunately knowing her for a month or so

some people cannot distinguish the difference and may read this and assume that the "theory" is correct it could be quite damaging for some people
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