Lipstick on a Pig - weigh in here for an informal poll

[Tylergal]

It was an insult.  He said it with that sh*t eating grin on his face to which the uneducated trolls bit hook, line and sinker and applauded loudly. 

He is very good at taking a lie and turning it on people.  Just like last night in the debates when he said he had "warned" Bush about FM/FM.  HE is a liar and the truth is not in his purple lips.

He was the biggest taker from FM/FM all through the time he was in the Senate and before he got there.  He was taking money from FM/FM for his pet project, ACORN which has had repeated criminal investigations but he's their attorney.

After 143 days in the Senate, his earmarks were $980,000,000.00, an all-time record, even for a senator of many years and most of that money went to questionable projects that involved Rezko, the hospital where his wife works, ACORN, his church and his law firm representing ACORN.  Get to know your candidate.

Then he said he has been warning Bush about Putin all these years.  WTH does he mean, he's been warning Bush.  Bush has been trying coyly to smooze Putin for years, knowing he was an old KGB, but trying to make him a decent man.  Obama is as big a fraud as Putin, or worse.

Now he is having people arrested who say anything bad about him.  He even has the Democrat sheriffs in Missouri spying on people and arresting them if they say anything bad about him.  You know what he is from that, he is a communist. 

He has worked with the likes of George Soros and Arianna Huffington to bring our economy to its knees in September/October, and worked with the Arabs to raise the price of oil and with the Chinese on many of his little pet projects through the Chinese Mafia.  Now, let that lizard sue me. 


If anyone gets dumped, it will be Joe Biden, who continues making public gaffes.  LOL>  There are numerous websites enumerating his gaffes and the fact that Obama had to call him in on the carpet and make him shut up, says more about the elder statesman not being able to control himself than antying else.  Biden stated FDR was president during the Great Depression.  He was not.  He further stated that he went on TV and explained the depression.  No TV back then.  Joe Biden obviously has a problem not only with plagiarism but with memory.

About the lies, the WaPost and NYT have suddenly become very irate at Obama for the lies he is telling on McCain.  Just Wednesday and Thursday (for the first time I can ever recall) were calling him on this and suggesting he learn to be more truthful.

Edited:  No personal attacks allowed.

[fatcatlurker]

That interview went on to include this question to her:

Do you think our participation in Iraq is a Holy War? Please, somebody tell me since when is it a social feaux paux to pray for our troops, or to actually attend a church where acknowledging God's Will is preferred over screaming racist's epitaphs and damning your country?

When you are muslim and are speaking of the Koran....Sorry I can't help playing the Devils Advocate sometimes, and being of a religion other than Christian which is "No Religious Preference" third largest religious group in the world, 1st being Christian, 2nd being Muslim, I can't help but sit back and observe how religion is portrayed by both sides in this political world.  We condemn Muslims for this exact thing, their god and bible tells them to perform Jihad on the West???  I personally wonder if the "Gods" didn't get together and throw a bunch of different bibles with religious ideaology down at the planets and than sit back and watch the performance, but this is my dark humor. 

As to the lipstick on the pig, if that's an insult, every woman out there better grow some thicker skin if we want equal pay for an equal day.... Just My Thoughts.  Holly

[Tylergal]

My apologies to Caseu.  Caseu, I am sorry you do not understand our system, but one does not become elected Vice President and be dumped by the country the next day.  You obviously have not studied Civics in America, but if you had, you would see those websites that make these inane statements either paid no attention to Civics in junior high or they are not Americans.

[crazybabyborg]

That interview went on to include this question to her:

Do you think our participation in Iraq is a Holy War? Please, somebody tell me since when is it a social feaux paux to pray for our troops, or to actually attend a church where acknowledging God's Will is preferred over screaming racist's epitaphs and damning your country?

When you are muslim and are speaking of the Koran....Sorry I can't help playing the Devils Advocate sometimes, and being of a religion other than Christian which is "No Religious Preference" third largest religious group in the world, 1st being Christian, 2nd being Muslim, I can't help but sit back and observe how religion is portrayed by both sides in this political world.  We condemn Muslims for this exact thing, their god and bible tells them to perform Jihad on the West???  I personally wonder if the "Gods" didn't get together and throw a bunch of different bibles with religious ideaology down at the planets and than sit back and watch the performance, but this is my dark humor. 

As to the lipstick on the pig, if that's an insult, every woman out there better grow some thicker skin if we want equal pay for an equal day.... Just My Thoughts.  Holly

When anyone's religion includes the philosophy of world domination through annihalation for the sole purpose of dictaorship to impose your religion on those who choose otherwise, then that religion is no longer freedom to worship, but a political entity. My individual freedom has the same restrictions. I am free to behave anyway I wish, as long as that behavior does not inpede those same rights for other citizens.

Much harm has been done in the name of Christianity; history will bear that out. You will not find direction contained within book upon which Christianity is based, for that history. This country's best: mercy, altruism, generosity, respect for others, individual value, fairness, justice, responsibility, and love are the same cornerstones of Christian faith. That's quite a contrast to the teachings found in the Koran, yet as long as Muslim beliefs for world servitude are not given legs, my Christian beliefs can be respectful neighbors to that of Muslims. 

[Tylergal]

Fatcatlurker, I am afraid I do not understand the rant about religion but I am not one to argue religion as I was told as a child how blasphemous it was and I try to stay away from that, so not being the wonderful Bible scholar that our sweet CBB is, I just wear beige and sit in the back of the church when we discuss religion (note, duct tape over mouth).

However, I have to put on my cowgirl spurs and disagree with you on the "lipstick on a pig comment."  If Governor Palin had not make the comment about a hockey mom being a pit bull with lipstick just 4-5 days before that and it having gotten traction with the MSM, you could convince me of that, but I have friends on the other side, and they knew it was coming and it was planned.  They snicker and giggle about it and will not admit it, but they were aware of it in the planning stages, admonishing me that it was about to come back to haunt her, so while I will not go into religion, I will go into the religiosity of the MSM holding Obama's hand while he cavorts with nasty and smarmy remarks unfitting of a presidential candidate.

[Slogger]

It was a direct insult, which worked as well as spitting in the wind.

Petty Politics.

[Tylergal]

I could never put it as succintly as CBB.  She is absolutely fantastic on religious matters.  I just know what I believe but it is difficult for me to articulate but I can figure out what this article, below, means and I think that ties in with what she is saying, though I might be wrong.

From The Sunday Times
September 28, 2008
Muslim gang firebombs publisher of Allah novel, Martin Rynja
David Leppard
SCOTLAND YARD’S counter-terrorist command yesterday foiled an alleged plot by Islamic extremists to kill the publisher of a forthcoming novel featuring sexual encounters between the Prophet Muhammad and his child bride.

Early yesterday armed undercover officers arrested three men after a petrol bomb was pushed through the door of the north London home of the book’s publisher.

The Metropolitan police said the target of the assassination plot, the Dutch publisher Martin Rynja, had not been injured.

The suspected terror gang was being followed by undercover police and the fire was quickly put out after the fire brigade smashed down the front door.

The foiled terrorist attack recalled the death threats and uproar 20 years ago following the publication of Salman Rush-die’s Satanic Verses, and the worldwide protests that followed the publication in a Danish newspaper in 2005 of cartoons deemed offensive to Islam, in which more than 100 people died.
Security officials believe Rynja was targeted for assassination because his firm, Gibson Square, is preparing to publish a romantic novel about Aisha, child bride of the Prophet Muhammad. The Jewel of Medina, by the first-time American author Sherry Jones, describes an imaginary sex scene between the prophet and his 14-year-old wife.

It was withdrawn from publication in America last month after its publisher there, Random House, said it feared a violent reaction by “a small radical segment” of Muslims. It said “credible and unrelated sources” had warned that the book could incite violence.

Random House reacted after Islamic scholars objected to its contents, saying it treated the wife of the Prophet as a sex object. One of them, Denise Spellberg, of the University of Texas at Austin, described the novel as “soft-core pornography”, referring to a scene in which Muhammad consummates his marriage to Aisha. She called it “a declaration of war” and a “national security issue”.

At the time, her warnings were dismissed by the author. “Anyone who reads the book will not be offended,” said Jones. “I wrote the book with the utmost respect for Islam.” However, Jones admitted receiving death threats after the book was withdrawn.

It was soon after this that the Met appears to have received a tip-off that the British publisher who had subsequently agreed to print it could be the target of an attack.

A Met spokesman said three men had been arrested in “a preplanned intelligence-led operation” at about 2.25am on Saturday.

Two of the suspects were arrested in the street outside Rynja’s four-storey townhouse in Lonsdale Square, Islington, while the third was stopped by officers in an armed vehicle near Angel Tube station.

They were being questioned yesterday on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, a spokesman said.

Rynja, 44, could not be contacted yesterday. He is believed to be under police guard.

Yesterday, Natasha Kern, Jones’s agent, said she was shocked to learn of the attack. She said the book had been misinterpreted by its critics and did not contain sex scenes, as had been alleged.

“I honestly believe that if people read the book they will see it is not disrespectful of Muhammad, and moderate Muslims will not be offended. I don’t want anyone to risk their lives but we could never imagine that there would be some madmen who would do something like this. I’m so sad about this act of terrorism. Moderate Muslims will suffer because of a few radicals.”

Kern said it was too early for her to comment on whether the book should be withdrawn. “That’s up to Martin, and I still need to absorb the fact that he was at risk. I’m just so glad he has not been hurt.”

Residents said they saw armed police break down the door of Rynja’s house, helped by firefighters.

Francesca Liebowitz, 16, a neighbour, said: “The police couldn’t get the door open so the fire brigade battered it down.”

Another neighbour, who declined to be named, said: “I was woken at about 3am and I looked out the window and I saw several unmarked cars with what I now think were police officers in them. These officers came out of the cars and there was huge screaming and shouting. Some of the police officers were carrying sub-machineguns.

“I then saw a small fire at the bottom of the door at the house. I heard the police officers shout and scream and try to get neighbours out of the house.”

The Jewel of Medina is due to be published next month.