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« Reply #1220 on: September 14, 2008, 02:08:18 PM »

Hi... newmonkey here... I have a view on why George is so confrontational...
6/15/08 Casey is forced to visit grandfather for father’s day with Caylee.
(Casey is reminded of George incest and wants to protect Caylee, typical reaction.)
6/16/08 Caylee alone with Casey and murdered between 3:05 and 4:20, buried behind house (motive: incest rage or payback)
6/17/08 Casey supposedly drops off Caylee at Sawgrass Apts. (maybe scopes a safe hiding spot there, possibly has Tony Rusciano (fired cop) run a license plate for Zanny’s name)
6/18/08 Caylee’s body is collected from Anthony backyard and moved by Casey 3-4 p.m. decomposing fluid and hair in trunk. Casey conceals body somewhere.
6/19/08-6/20/08 Casey steals gas cans possibly to burn body.
6/22/08 Tony Rusciano informs Casey that George reported gas can stolen
6/24/08 Casey returns George’s gas cans. Drama=incest is over dad, it’s over completely!
6/26-6/27/08 Retrieved Caylee’s body (from Sawgrass?), puts back in trunk. Car abandoned with body remains in plastic garbage bag.
7/15/08 George picks up car with smell of remains of his biological daughter.

The body has been in police custody the whole time from the tow yard. They just want to know how and why it got there 6/16 to 7/15 to build a case. They used TES to find clues of where it was stashed to try to place Casey there.

The most frequently reported type of incest is father-daughter incest. Adults who were incestuously victimized by adults in their childhood often suffer from low self-esteem, difficulties in interpersonal relationships, and are at an extremely high risk of many mental disorders, including borderline personality disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder. Histronic, these individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. People with this disorder are usually able to function at a high level and can be successful socially and professionally. People with histrionic personality disorder usually have good social skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and become the center of attention. Women with HPD are described as self-centered, self-indulgent, and intensely dependent on others
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« Reply #1221 on: September 14, 2008, 02:10:59 PM »

Ok - please do not start attacking me!    I have been reluctant to post this for several reasons.  But a LE, not working the case, said he thought Caylee died by accident.  There is no big conspiracy.  The parents are just stupid and just doing what Baez has told them to do, so Casey can get a fair trial.  When I told him about some of the theories I have read, child sex ring/ porn ring, etc.  He just shock his head, rolled his eyes and laughed.  He last comment was before he left unexpectedly and in a real hurry, was look what Casey has put he parents through.  The media has done a number on the those parents, don't believe everything you read.

I know this to be very true because when I worked for DCF, I worked on a local "high profile" case.  Everything I read in the paper was so inaccurate and exaggerated. Long after my role was over, the daycare worker has found guilty for shaking a baby, but I was never convinced it was her.  Mom of shaken baby, went on a mission to educate parents about shaken baby syndrome, even appeared on Dr. Phil (archives have since been deleted of his web sight). 

Long story short, not too long ago - the mother of the child that got was shaken, was arrested for trying to brutally kill her own mother, her business partner.  It appeared to be premeditated. 

Lastly, if anyone accused my husband or son of incest, I would actually lose control.
I know I would!!  As a mother, I am very protective of my family and would go banannas if protesters were bad mouthing my family, even if my daughter did what Casey did.  I wouldn't lie for her but I would protect her.

I am not defending CA and GA, I think they should of kept ther mouths shut.  I think they have made the situation worse for themselves.  But after much soul searching, I would have probably already have been arrested for assault - and I am in no way - a violent person but I think I would probably take my hurt, anger, grief, frustation out on the world.




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« Reply #1222 on: September 14, 2008, 02:11:04 PM »

I dunno...maybe just talking out of my piehole here...

None of this would have happened if one person told the TRUTH.

None of this would have happened if one person called LAW ENFORCEMENT.

None of this would have happened if Caylee was a PRIORITY.

It can all end today... if someone told the truth.  Lead LE to Caylee..after all, Caylee is all that matters...no one else matters.


And Cindy kept saying that they have information but cannot let it out, cannot tell the public.  How is that helping to find Caylee.  If she really does have information then tell us so the public can use the info to help find her.  IDK, i guess she was just bullshitting

Any information that Cindy has and can't let out is probably information that will be used in Casey's defense.  Why do I think that when this information comes out, that it will go something like this:  Caylee was kidnapped and Casey was told that if she goes to the police that something bad will happen to George, Cindy and/or Lee.  Casey will say that she HAD to lie to the police to save her family from harm (like we would believe that for one second when the woman couldn't manage to shed one tear during those interrogations). 

The WORLD is on to Casey.  I do feel compassion for grandparents in the context of their losing a granddaughter and even for parents in the context of dealing with a "certifiably psychotic" daughter; however, with them having all this knowledge, I don't have compassion for those who would NOT go forward and "do the right thing" (instead of aiding and abetting Miss Casey).  How can they live with themselves or sleep at night (wait...maybe they can't...maybe that's why they are jumping all over folks who let them know that the Anthony's...none of the Anthony's....are fooling anyone.  Truth hurts!!

My 2 cents...




Casey is not psychotic.  She's been evaluated at the jail for that.  She has a personality disorder, and personality disorders are not treatable.  She most likely has sociopathic personality disorder, uncommon for females, but it exists.  Casey will always be this way.  She will have no attachments, no feelings of remorse, or other feelings save for rage.  The prison system is loaded to the gill with sociopathic personality disorders.  That's where they tend to end up.  ///////Thank the good lord for prisons.

IMO - sociopathic is more unorganized and stressed out that Casey is.  Casey is cool, calculated and manipulative, which is more psychotic.  Casey has a disassociative disorder IMO.

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« Reply #1223 on: September 14, 2008, 02:11:55 PM »

recent video argument:

Did you watch how big Cindy's eyes became when angry Momma Fun Love

exited the vehicle? I think Cindy quickly realized this lady could crush her

like a dung beetle. lol
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« Reply #1224 on: September 14, 2008, 02:12:34 PM »

Lala's I took your advice from last night and went and re-listened to the Casey interviews again.  The more I listened the more details I picked up that I had not heard originally.  It only made me more angry though! 


I am past the anger over those tapes.  I truly hear a very sick person...it's been going on for a long time.  Casey is happy that Cindy is getting her comeuppance. This is entertaining to Casey..that is why she is in her room on her computer reading every word we post and all the other stuff on the internet.  She is enjoying every single minute of the agony her parents are suffering...the big question is...why is that??  Why doesn't she care one wit about the people that raised her and fed her and clothed her?  I am sure Cindy read to her at night and they loved her like most parents would...what happened that created this fractured family? 



Lala's....totally agree.

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« Reply #1225 on: September 14, 2008, 02:13:37 PM »

Ok - please do not start attacking me!    I have been reluctant to post this for several reasons.  But a LE, not working the case, said he thought Caylee died by accident.  There is no big conspiracy.  The parents are just stupid and just doing what Baez has told them to do, so Casey can get a fair trial.  When I told him about some of the theories I have read, child sex ring/ porn ring, etc.  He just shock his head, rolled his eyes and laughed.  He last comment was before he left unexpectedly and in a real hurry, was look what Casey has put he parents through.  The media has done a number on the those parents, don't believe everything you read.

I know this to be very true because when I worked for DCF, I worked on a local "high profile" case.  Everything I read in the paper was so inaccurate and exaggerated. Long after my role was over, the daycare worker has found guilty for shaking a baby, but I was never convinced it was her.  Mom of shaken baby, went on a mission to educate parents about shaken baby syndrome, even appeared on Dr. Phil (archives have since been deleted of his web sight). 

Long story short, not too long ago - the mother of the child that got was shaken, was arrested for trying to brutally kill her own mother, her business partner.  It appeared to be premeditated. 

Lastly, if anyone accused my husband or son of incest, I would actually lose control.
I know I would!!  As a mother, I am very protective of my family and would go banannas if protesters were bad mouthing my family, even if my daughter did what Casey did.  I wouldn't lie for her but I would protect her.

I am not defending CA and GA, I think they should of kept ther mouths shut.  I think they have made the situation worse for themselves.  But after much soul searching, I would have probably already have been arrested for assault - and I am in no way - a violent person but I think I would probably take my hurt, anger, grief, frustation out on the world.




I am not a violent person, but I think I would have alot of misplaced anger and would take it out on the rest of the world.  Behind closed doors, I would think and hope Casey is feeling the tension.

I am not defending CA and GA, but I when I out myself in there shoes with the media

mytime -
sorry - accident does not explain anything that has happened. And her chances at a fair trial have been compromised by her own actions.

accident - no jail time.

intentional - life.

that cop is entitled to his opinion, but I'm not buying it.

THIS CASE SAYS INTENTIONAL ALL OVER IT, from top to bottom.

thanks for sharing what you know.
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« Reply #1227 on: September 14, 2008, 02:15:22 PM »

The Anthony's have retreated to their home for their own safety, emotionally as well as physically.  It must be a powderkeg in there.  I think they have to get out sometimes and walking out to the front of the house and confronting protesters is a safety valve that lets out a bit of the pressure.

Cindy, Geo,  and Lee have done their best to keep things stirred up outside in front of their house.  Their is absolutely no reason for them to interact with the crowd.  That only makes the crowd angry.  All they have to do is enter and depart from the rear of their yard.   I believe that is possible.  Even if they have to enter and egress from the front, they can keep their mouths shut and avoid unpleasant attention-getting body language.  I have been in a high profile situation (fo 6 yr) and managed to keep low and live and work and ordinary way that was productive all the way around.  It's easy to avoid negative attention from the getgo.  The hiring of body guards is an unneccesary hysterical add-on IMO.  Now if rights are sold for a story, one wonders if the family drummed up the business. 

But with this sick family public attention apparently takes precedence to their dear granddaughter Caylee.
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« Reply #1228 on: September 14, 2008, 02:16:40 PM »

Ok - please do not start attacking me!    I have been reluctant to post this for several reasons.  But a LE, not working the case, said he thought Caylee died by accident.  There is no big conspiracy.  The parents are just stupid and just doing what Baez has told them to do, so Casey can get a fair trial.  When I told him about some of the theories I have read, child sex ring/ porn ring, etc.  He just shock his head, rolled his eyes and laughed.  He last comment was before he left unexpectedly and in a real hurry, was look what Casey has put he parents through.  The media has done a number on the those parents, don't believe everything you read.

I know this to be very true because when I worked for DCF, I worked on a local "high profile" case.  Everything I read in the paper was so inaccurate and exaggerated. Long after my role was over, the daycare worker has found guilty for shaking a baby, but I was never convinced it was her.  Mom of shaken baby, went on a mission to educate parents about shaken baby syndrome, even appeared on Dr. Phil (archives have since been deleted of his web sight). 

Long story short, not too long ago - the mother of the child that got was shaken, was arrested for trying to brutally kill her own mother, her business partner.  It appeared to be premeditated. 

Lastly, if anyone accused my husband or son of incest, I would actually lose control.
I know I would!!  As a mother, I am very protective of my family and would go banannas if protesters were bad mouthing my family, even if my daughter did what Casey did.  I wouldn't lie for her but I would protect her.

I am not defending CA and GA, I think they should of kept ther mouths shut.  I think they have made the situation worse for themselves.  But after much soul searching, I would have probably already have been arrested for assault - and I am in no way - a violent person but I think I would probably take my hurt, anger, grief, frustation out on the world.






I understand what you are saying BUT I fail to see how the media is offending them in any way.  Most of the time they are reporting facts that we see with our very own eyes.  We can read all the documents for ourselves.  LP was the one who hinted about DNA and being shocking.  The incest stuff came from bloggers.  IMO I think LE has been very close lipped about the entire case, anything more than that is pure speculation. 
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« Reply #1229 on: September 14, 2008, 02:18:11 PM »

I dunno...maybe just talking out of my piehole here...

None of this would have happened if one person told the TRUTH.

None of this would have happened if one person called LAW ENFORCEMENT.

None of this would have happened if Caylee was a PRIORITY.

It can all end today... if someone told the truth.  Lead LE to Caylee..after all, Caylee is all that matters...no one else matters.


And Cindy kept saying that they have information but cannot let it out, cannot tell the public.  How is that helping to find Caylee.  If she really does have information then tell us so the public can use the info to help find her.  IDK, i guess she was just bullshitting

Any information that Cindy has and can't let out is probably information that will be used in Casey's defense.  Why do I think that when this information comes out, that it will go something like this:  Caylee was kidnapped and Casey was told that if she goes to the police that something bad will happen to George, Cindy and/or Lee.  Casey will say that she HAD to lie to the police to save her family from harm (like we would believe that for one second when the woman couldn't manage to shed one tear during those interrogations). 

The WORLD is on to Casey.  I do feel compassion for grandparents in the context of their losing a granddaughter and even for parents in the context of dealing with a "certifiably psychotic" daughter; however, with them having all this knowledge, I don't have compassion for those who would NOT go forward and "do the right thing" (instead of aiding and abetting Miss Casey).  How can they live with themselves or sleep at night (wait...maybe they can't...maybe that's why they are jumping all over folks who let them know that the Anthony's...none of the Anthony's....are fooling anyone.  Truth hurts!!

My 2 cents...




Casey is not psychotic.  She's been evaluated at the jail for that.  She has a personality disorder, and personality disorders are not treatable.  She most likely has sociopathic personality disorder, uncommon for females, but it exists.  Casey will always be this way.  She will have no attachments, no feelings of remorse, or other feelings save for rage.  The prison system is loaded to the gill with sociopathic personality disorders.  That's where they tend to end up.  ///////Thank the good lord for prisons.

IMO - sociopathic is more unorganized and stressed out that Casey is.  Casey is cool, calculated and manipulative, which is more psychotic.  Casey has a disassociative disorder IMO.




Otherwise known as multiple personalities.  She has the strong willed child personality...the domineering  cold hearted biotch personality and the please somebody help me in here personality.  Right now they are all intermingled.  a good defense attorney would milk that aspect for all it's worth...let's see which one of Casey's personalities are reading the blogs.
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« Reply #1230 on: September 14, 2008, 02:18:56 PM »

recent video argument:

Did you watch how big Cindy's eyes became when angry Momma Fun Love

exited the vehicle? I think Cindy quickly realized this lady could crush her

like a dung beetle. lol

 

that chick was like Tammy Faye Line-baker.
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« Reply #1231 on: September 14, 2008, 02:19:13 PM »

Have you seen this interview with cindy on larry king? Cindy challenges the pizza theory..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi1W6Aoly3I

Well what are you gonna do now cindy with the info he gives you..lol!
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« Reply #1232 on: September 14, 2008, 02:19:34 PM »

Lala's I took your advice from last night and went and re-listened to the Casey interviews again.  The more I listened the more details I picked up that I had not heard originally.  It only made me more angry though! 


I am past the anger over those tapes.  I truly hear a very sick person...it's been going on for a long time.  Casey is happy that Cindy is getting her comeuppance. This is entertaining to Casey..that is why she is in her room on her computer reading every word we post and all the other stuff on the internet.  She is enjoying every single minute of the agony her parents are suffering...the big question is...why is that??  Why doesn't she care one wit about the people that raised her and fed her and clothed her?  I am sure Cindy read to her at night and they loved her like most parents would...what happened that created this fractured family? 

I think Casey was abused as a child.  I don't think George or Cindy loved her in the way we interpret "like most parents would."  Good parenting meets the needs of the individual child.  A good parent understands their child's individual needs and meets them, knowing that one child's needs may be very different than another child's.  Ask any parent of multiple children--it's not enough to treat every child the same.  This just doesn't work if a child's needs are to be met.  I think G & C treated their children publicly in a socially accepted manner, but did not carry through this behavior in the home.  This is evidenced by the reports of verbal shouting and fighting in the home.  In that home, it was every person fighting for what he/she wanted or needed.  It was not a cooperative or happy home.  Violence was, and is, a part of both G & C's personal expression.  They were, and are, frustrated, unhappy, and unsuccessful people.  The incidents from their past related by relatives in Ohio are very telling.  People like this generally take out their frustration and anger in the home, on the kids and each other, and sometimes it spills out into public when the pressure is really bad.  Thus, the incidents of George throwing his father through a plate glass window and Cindy confronting the protesters.  We're seeing the frustration spilling out of the home into public view--something they generally keep inside their front door.

And I think it is very telling that not one family member/relative has come forward to help this family look for little Caylee.  Not one friend/neighbor has come out to defend this family and try to protect them.  They were not close to their own families and were not friendly with their neighbors.  Socializing with family/friends/neighbors appears to be non-existence.  They cut them off from everyone very early on.

Agree...it's telling that not one family member/relative has come forward to help look for Caylee. 
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« Reply #1233 on: September 14, 2008, 02:20:19 PM »

The Anthony's have retreated to their home for their own safety, emotionally as well as physically.  It must be a powderkeg in there.  I think they have to get out sometimes and walking out to the front of the house and confronting protesters is a safety valve that lets out a bit of the pressure.

Cindy, Geo,  and Lee have done their best to keep things stirred up outside in front of their house.  Their is absolutely no reason for them to interact with the crowd.  That only makes the crowd angry.  All they have to do is enter and depart from the rear of their yard.   I believe that is possible.  Even if they have to enter and egress from the front, they can keep their mouths shut and avoid unpleasant attention-getting body language.  I have been in a high profile situation (fo 6 yr) and managed to keep low and live and work and ordinary way that was productive all the way around.  It's easy to avoid negative attention from the getgo.  The hiring of body guards is an unneccesary hysterical add-on IMO.  Now if rights are sold for a story, one wonders if the family drummed up the business. 

But with this sick family public attention apparently takes precedence to their dear granddaughter Caylee.
Yes, so true.  The Anthony's invite the confrontations by their presence and body language.  The protesters know this and seem to want the Anthony's to come out and interact with them.  The Anthony's could stop this if they behaved differently.  These protesters would not be gathering night after night if they weren't rewarded frequently with a confrontation.
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« Reply #1234 on: September 14, 2008, 02:21:18 PM »

Have you seen this interview with cindy on larry king? Cindy challenges the pizza theory..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi1W6Aoly3I

Well what are you gonna do now cindy with the info he gives you..lol!
I also find it funny how everytime cindy is interviewed she always says she got a call today..What is up with that??? JMO that she is lying
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« Reply #1235 on: September 14, 2008, 02:21:34 PM »

Cindy and George were having marital issues because of infidelity. hmmm. Has the other woman been named? Casey is the other woman... possibly. Yes, incest happens and little secrets sometimes result in murder. It's not so unbelievable. And I think a strong statement is that Caylee was murdered the day after Fathers Day.
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« Reply #1236 on: September 14, 2008, 02:22:33 PM »

recent video argument:

Did you watch how big Cindy's eyes became when angry Momma Fun Love

exited the vehicle? I think Cindy quickly realized this lady could crush her

like a dung beetle. lol

 

that chick was like Tammy Faye Line-baker.

 

Yes I noticed that suddenly George was not into shoving protesters anymore as well...

 
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Otherwise known as multiple personalities.  She has the strong willed child personality...the domineering  cold hearted biotch personality and the please somebody help me in here personality.  Right now they are all intermingled.  a good defense attorney would milk that aspect for all it's worth...let's see which one of Casey's personalities are reading the blogs.

Lala's, the most severe multiple personality cases are the product of severe childhood abuse.  It's a coping mechanism of the mind to split and fracture in the face of abuse.  Reminds me of the classic Sybil.
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« Reply #1238 on: September 14, 2008, 02:24:46 PM »

Cindy and George were having marital issues because of infidelity. hmmm. Has the other woman been named? Casey is the other woman... possibly. Yes, incest happens and little secrets sometimes result in murder. It's not so unbelievable. And I think a strong statement is that Caylee was murdered the day after Fathers Day.

I agree.  I do think incest and abuse were a part of the family dynamic.
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« Reply #1239 on: September 14, 2008, 02:25:13 PM »

Ok - please do not start attacking me!    I have been reluctant to post this for several reasons.  But a LE, not working the case, said he thought Caylee died by accident.  There is no big conspiracy.  The parents are just stupid and just doing what Baez has told them to do, so Casey can get a fair trial.  When I told him about some of the theories I have read, child sex ring/ porn ring, etc.  He just shock his head, rolled his eyes and laughed.  He last comment was before he left unexpectedly and in a real hurry, was look what Casey has put he parents through.  The media has done a number on the those parents, don't believe everything you read.

I know this to be very true because when I worked for DCF, I worked on a local "high profile" case.  Everything I read in the paper was so inaccurate and exaggerated. Long after my role was over, the daycare worker has found guilty for shaking a baby, but I was never convinced it was her.  Mom of shaken baby, went on a mission to educate parents about shaken baby syndrome, even appeared on Dr. Phil (archives have since been deleted of his web sight). 

Long story short, not too long ago - the mother of the child that got was shaken, was arrested for trying to brutally kill her own mother, her business partner.  It appeared to be premeditated. 

Lastly, if anyone accused my husband or son of incest, I would actually lose control.
I know I would!!  As a mother, I am very protective of my family and would go banannas if protesters were bad mouthing my family, even if my daughter did what Casey did.  I wouldn't lie for her but I would protect her.

I am not defending CA and GA, I think they should of kept ther mouths shut.  I think they have made the situation worse for themselves.  But after much soul searching, I would have probably already have been arrested for assault - and I am in no way - a violent person but I think I would probably take my hurt, anger, grief, frustation out on the world.




I am not a violent person, but I think I would have alot of misplaced anger and would take it out on the rest of the world.  Behind closed doors, I would think and hope Casey is feeling the tension.

I am not defending CA and GA, but I when I out myself in there shoes with the media

mytime -
sorry - accident does not explain anything that has happened. And her chances at a fair trial have been compromised by her own actions.

accident - no jail time.

intentional - life.

that cop is entitled to his opinion, but I'm not buying it.

THIS CASE SAYS INTENTIONAL ALL OVER IT, from top to bottom.

thanks for sharing what you know.

Maybe the cop was using an interrogative "tatic" in presenting that he could be understanding; by giving Casey the opportunity to latch onto to the excuse of "it was an accident".  IMO, it was a means to try to get Casey to confess...but she won't.

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