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oldfart
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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September 14, 2008, 04:44:26 PM »
Quote from: cajun miracle on September 14, 2008, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: oldfart on September 14, 2008, 04:25:24 PM
Canjun
Glad you are doing Ok and OMG at the flooding..
JMO but any of us that want to attempt to assist those in need after IKE need to donate what they can to the Red Cross
Thanks Oldfart and I love your photo. You are such a handsome dude! The Red Cross would be such a helpful jesture. These area people had so much hope of finishing their rebuilding. This is beyond sad and many are elderly and have lived in this area all of their lives with no such damage.
Canjun
If you know of an organization other than the
Red Cross
that is providing more direct support (not part of FEMA) please let me / us know.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Quote from: mrsrocko19 on September 14, 2008, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: Dolce on September 14, 2008, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: Hudsunn on September 14, 2008, 04:31:14 PM
I agree...the fact that Casey tried to cover up, did not report the child as missing, has told so many stories...all these things point to her knowing the difference between right and wrong. Of course, it is the LEGAL definition of insanity that comes into play here, but
I think there is enough evidence to indicate she knew she had done wrong.
I even think the little poem about "Everyone lies. Everyone dies." is an attempt to justify her actions. In effect, she is saying, "I may be lying, but everyone does. And Caylee would have died eventually. We all do."
I agree with you. That poem was the first real thing in this entire case as it came from Casey herself without pressure from a cop or family member. It came from the mind of Casey. Sheds a bit of light on the type of mind she has, very non caring and detached as well. IMO
I think the cops need to get thier hands on any computer casey may of has access to. I think more so tony's since she was staying there all day when he was at school.
I have been wondering if cops / dectectives are sly enough to get key stroke recorders on the computers the anthony family are using
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Hudsunn
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Can you take children into bars in Florida? Here, it is not allowed.
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mrsrocko19
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Quote from: mrsrocko19 on September 14, 2008, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: Dolce on September 14, 2008, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: Hudsunn on September 14, 2008, 04:31:14 PM
I agree...the fact that Casey tried to cover up, did not report the child as missing, has told so many stories...all these things point to her knowing the difference between right and wrong. Of course, it is the LEGAL definition of insanity that comes into play here, but
I think there is enough evidence to indicate she knew she had done wrong.
I even think the little poem about "Everyone lies. Everyone dies." is an attempt to justify her actions. In effect, she is saying, "I may be lying, but everyone does. And Caylee would have died eventually. We all do."
I agree with you. That poem was the first real thing in this entire case as it came from Casey herself without pressure from a cop or family member. It came from the mind of Casey. Sheds a bit of light on the type of mind she has, very non caring and detached as well. IMO
I think the cops need to get thier hands on any computer casey may of has access to. I think more so tony's since she was staying there all day when he was at school.
I also remember the roomate stating that casey said she was working at home by laptop..I wonder if she used that excuse after the car was dumped because her laptop was in the car and she would have had to use someone else's computer after that
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always 1
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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I know a girl just like Casey. She is living on the streets now and has given her child to the father.
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Quote from: carpe noctem on September 14, 2008, 04:43:59 PM
Quote from: Lisa39 on September 14, 2008, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on September 14, 2008, 04:41:07 PM
It will be interesting to watch Geraldo tonight to see
whose life the Anthony's will ruin next, though!
Get your lists out.
What time is the vigil?
The past few Sundays it has been early evenings, like 7-8pm-ish or so.
Thanks Carpe.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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After reading Jesse's dad's blogs..It is very apparent to me that Casey has had issues for a very long time and her family did nothing about it~ever~.It sounds like they ignored the problem hoping it would go away..Jesse's dad said he could see in casey eyes she wanted to change that she wanted a better life but no one in her family helped her with that..
Not to defend casey because Im not everyone has choices, but George and Cindy make me sick!!
I know what its like to be abused..And the older I got the more I was to blame for everything that went wrong in my family..EVERYTHING!!When you suffer abuse like that it is very easy to "get lost in your own head"I am very good at it to this day.I had to have an escape for the horrible thing I went through..I HAD TO!!But when I got older and the abuse turned physical--Right then did I decide I would never let a child be treated the way I was NEVER!!My children are my world I cannot understand why someone would be so evil towards a child...
It makes me so sick that a parent can treat their own child with such ignorance..Cindy and George created this situation the minute casey was born....
I am only on the outside looking in but I can tell you what I see ~Casey was abused and I think she was also blamed, I think she was treated like crap by Cindy and and that she was blamed for everything that went wrong in that marriage..Whether it was her fault or not..~
Instead of cindy making her daughter a better person she probably spent all her time tearing casey down...~
I will not be happy til cindy and george suffer the same fate as casey..
Everything came to a head in that house and unfortunalty CAYLEE lost her life because of it..
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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September 14, 2008, 04:46:37 PM »
When this case is solved and all of the questions are answered, there will be many people that have many things to deal with. Every member of that family will have to figure out how to accept responsibility for the wrongs they have done....whether those wrongs be criminal offenses or just bad parenting and bad choices.
I do believe that Casey holds the key that will unlock all the answers to all the questions about Caylee's disappearance. If she is responsible, at any level, I pray she recieves swift and just punishment for her horrible actions.
For now, I am not comfortable making broad accusations about other members of the Anthony family and their involvement in any crimes, cover-ups, or sexual abuse on family members. I am neither a mental health professional, judge or jury...just an average person that always tries to give others the benefit of a doubt. I strive to always try and believe the best about people until the worst is proven.
As a mother, I'm sure there were things I could have done better as a parent. Although all three of my sons turned out great, I know I didn't score 100% on a parenting test.
Sorry if my opinions are not popular here because I really do like you all !!!
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jjayinthemorning
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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September 14, 2008, 04:47:06 PM »
Quote from: Dolce on September 14, 2008, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: Hudsunn on September 14, 2008, 04:31:14 PM
I agree...the fact that Casey tried to cover up, did not report the child as missing, has told so many stories...all these things point to her knowing the difference between right and wrong. Of course, it is the LEGAL definition of insanity that comes into play here, but
I think there is enough evidence to indicate she knew she had done wrong.
I even think the little poem about "Everyone lies. Everyone dies." is an attempt to justify her actions. In effect, she is saying, "I may be lying, but everyone does. And Caylee would have died eventually. We all do."
I agree with you. That poem was the first real thing in this entire case as it came from Casey herself without pressure from a cop or family member. It came from the mind of Casey. Sheds a bit of light on the type of mind she has, very non caring and detached as well. IMO
I disagre. It shows that she speaks herself in metaphor. Metaphor is the language of the ancients who weren't allowed free speech. Doesn't mean she's non-caring, but it does mean she's a slave of sorts.
Still she is responsible for her actions, so was Agatha of God who was covering up being raped by a priest... words that could never be spoken.
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misitx5
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Quote from: Hudsunn on September 14, 2008, 04:44:42 PM
Can you take children into bars in Florida? Here, it is not allowed.
I live in MI, it is legal here, but the child has to be out by 9:00pm
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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I know the reports for the news programs are reading here. I hate when they say they "found" something, when I know our posters found it first!
This is pretty sickening though, that she has all those supporters. They are just making her crazier, because if they believe her it just prolongs her lies.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=C8F40E93A47C432A851D28CF3109A65F?contentId=7411172&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
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Blue Moon
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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September 14, 2008, 04:48:09 PM »
Quote from: oldfart on September 14, 2008, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 14, 2008, 03:21:35 PM
We know
Caylee and Cindy
visited great grandpa on fathers day June 15
We know that
Casey got into a fight with Cindy and George
the night of June 15
We know
Casey spent the night at Tony's house WITHOUT Caylee
June 15
Did George really see Casey and Caylee leaving the house at around 12:50pm on June 16?
What happened the afternoon of June 16, 2008?
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/16g7656.png
Ok.. I know I'm not up to date on things so please cut the OldF a little slack....
Was it Cindy and Calyee at the nursing home on fathers day ? & what time were they there ?
What time did:
Casey show up at the homestead to get into the fight on the 15th ? or at least the time of the fight ?
Casey leave and was Caylee with her ?
Casey drop Caylee off with Zinda ?
Casey arrive at Tony's place on the 15th W/O Carlee?
Casey leave Tony's place ?
Casey pick up Caylee so that Cindy could hear them in Casey's room?
Did Caylee spend the night at the homestead If not where was she ?
Yes I'v been holding out for that ray of hope... but now wondering if just if something occurred during the argument on the 15th.. Kinda like the poor boy getting slammed by the car door.
Just going
and trying not to be consumed by this case ..
But that would mean Casey had to sleep at Tony's just afterwards or ??
I am wondering the same thing also-Did something happen to Caylee during the argument on the 15th? We see that no one in that family has any control and it doesn't take an awful lot for a screaming match to turn into a fist fight. Cindy acted last night like this was not her first time she had ever been into a physical fight before. JMO
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mrsrocko19
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Reply #1452 on:
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Quote from: Lisa39 on September 14, 2008, 04:45:38 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on September 14, 2008, 04:43:59 PM
Quote from: Lisa39 on September 14, 2008, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on September 14, 2008, 04:41:07 PM
It will be interesting to watch Geraldo tonight to see
whose life the Anthony's will ruin next, though!
Get your lists out.
What time is the vigil?
The past few Sundays it has been early evenings, like 7-8pm-ish or so.
Thanks Carpe.
This is the time the protestors piss me off..I know there stand on this but the vigil is for caylee and a time of peace and prayer..They should not disrupt that..Sorry it's jmo
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cajun miracle
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Quote from: oldfart on September 14, 2008, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: cajun miracle on September 14, 2008, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: oldfart on September 14, 2008, 04:25:24 PM
Canjun
Glad you are doing Ok and OMG at the flooding..
JMO but any of us that want to attempt to assist those in need after IKE need to donate what they can to the Red Cross
Thanks Oldfart and I love your photo. You are such a handsome dude! The Red Cross would be such a helpful jesture. These area people had so much hope of finishing their rebuilding. This is beyond sad and many are elderly and have lived in this area all of their lives with no such damage.
Canjun
If you know of an organization other than the
Red Cross
that is providing more direct support (not part of FEMA) please let me / us know.
as for as my AVI...
CCB & Klaased
made me
Oldfart, I will check on this for you but until anymore news is given, the Red Cross should be able to handle it. Yep, you feel the same way that I do about FEMA. It's a 4-letter word in my area. LOL! Thank God most of the area people evacuated before the storm made landfall but some had to be rescued. I call that hardheaded to the max!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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We all speak in metaphors from time to time, and this is especially true of poets and other authors.
Casey's poem, whether it is original or one she found somewhere, was important enough to her for her to put it on a web page. She chose that poem as an expression of her feelings at the time.
Why that poem and not some other? I think it has very deep meaning for her.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Quote from: Anninflorida on September 14, 2008, 04:46:37 PM
When this case is solved and all of the questions are answered, there will be many people that have many things to deal with. Every member of that family will have to figure out how to accept responsibility for the wrongs they have done....whether those wrongs be criminal offenses or just bad parenting and bad choices.
I do believe that Casey holds the key that will unlock all the answers to all the questions about Caylee's disappearance. If she is responsible, at any level, I pray she recieves swift and just punishment for her horrible actions.
For now, I am not comfortable making broad accusations about other members of the Anthony family and their involvement in any crimes, cover-ups, or sexual abuse on family members. I am neither a mental health professional, judge or jury...just an average person that always tries to give others the benefit of a doubt. I strive to always try and believe the best about people until the worst is proven.
As a mother, I'm sure there were things I could have done better as a parent. Although all three of my sons turned out great, I know I didn't score 100% on a parenting test.
Sorry if my opinions are not popular here because I really do like you all !!!
I could not have said it better myself. However, I truly do not like the Anthony family for how they enabled their daughter since her arrest. I do think Casey is very sick person, based on her actions.
Also, I wonder if Casey likes to go to Baez office, because LE cannot look at his computers.
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jjayinthemorning
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Quote from: Dolce on September 14, 2008, 04:32:45 PM
Very interesting assumption there. I am going to have to put that into my notebook of thoughts as well. But why not tell the cops? If this is the case, this could be the reason why she perfers to stay at the attorney's all day rather than her "loving" home.
[/quote]
Why not tell the cops???
Because George was a cop!!!
Who would believe her over a cop among cops?
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George was a retired cop from Ohio..not Orlando. Also, within this case a Cop was de-badged for lying..
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Cops still have a fraternal code that they follow. They usually respect one another in a cop kinda way. Which doesn't mean there aren't dirty cops.
Orlando cops seem sharp.
Jesse probably cared for Casey because he knew she was a victim of some sort, wounded bird thing. And he introduced her to the cop that was fired. Maybe Casey was reaching out to young cops and trying to get them to be on her side to battle her father down the road. But they just used her as a sex toy instead.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Reply #1457 on:
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Quote from: abbey09 on September 14, 2008, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: mrsrocko19 on September 14, 2008, 04:42:27 PM
Quote from: Dolce on September 14, 2008, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: Hudsunn on September 14, 2008, 04:31:14 PM
I agree...the fact that Casey tried to cover up, did not report the child as missing, has told so many stories...all these things point to her knowing the difference between right and wrong. Of course, it is the LEGAL definition of insanity that comes into play here, but
I think there is enough evidence to indicate she knew she had done wrong.
I even think the little poem about "Everyone lies. Everyone dies." is an attempt to justify her actions. In effect, she is saying, "I may be lying, but everyone does. And Caylee would have died eventually. We all do."
I agree with you. That poem was the first real thing in this entire case as it came from Casey herself without pressure from a cop or family member. It came from the mind of Casey. Sheds a bit of light on the type of mind she has, very non caring and detached as well. IMO
I think the cops need to get thier hands on any computer casey may of has access to. I think more so tony's since she was staying there all day when he was at school.
I have been wondering if cops / dectectives are sly enough to get key stroke recorders on the computers the anthony family are using
I would be willing to bet Mrs Kub's sweet bippy
that all lines going into and coming out of that house
are being monitored by a small army. imho
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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my camera is stuck..sigh
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #22
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Quote from: Hudsunn on September 14, 2008, 04:50:39 PM
We all speak in metaphors from time to time, and this is especially true of poets and other authors.
Casey's poem, whether it is original or one she found somewhere, was important enough to her for her to put it on a web page. She chose that poem as an expression of her feelings at the time.
Why that poem and not some other? I think it has very deep meaning for her.
When she said everyone lies, who was she talking about??
1. Herself
2. Her whole family about this particular situation
3. About being abused
How does lying and dying become intertwined in her head??? They are obviously referring to the same thing / incident
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
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=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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