Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 - 10/04/08

[texasmom]

Hey TM and Hotshot! I just wanted to say Good Night! 

Hey Hotping!  Good night!   

[texasmom]

Hello all -- and goodnight!! 

  Hello and Good night to you too, Wreck!

[MumInOhio]

Freddy or Lorenzo?...Locoman, Alibi so Tight.

Max Arendz/Arends...

Scuba defends both Freddy and Max Arends, rumored to be related to Jossy.

Caps says Arends in Shango, Arendz here


Carpe...I couldn't get that Youtube to open.

Maybe it was Bondia, not Scuba for Max...

Good Morning and Good Night Wreck...LOL

[wreck]

read more: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraaf.nl%2Fvrouw%2F1946552%2F__Heidi_van_der_Eem_vertelt...__.html%3Fp%3D4%2C1&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&sl=nl&tl=en

AMSTERDAM -- Heidi Geerlings (30) is the girlfriend of Patrick van der river Eem (35). After he decided to concentrate on undercover Joran van der Sloot, to pay the entire world press on Patrick's past criminal dove, they tried the rest in her family to bring back.

 

"Patrick and I have each other ten years ago met in a disco in Arnhem where I worked as a dancer. Patrick did not work, but was in drug trafficking. I now fall at once naughty, bad men can not explain why. Before Patrick, I have also had a couple bad boyfriends and I also really love once tried to be a dead normal, very sweet boy who was in love with me, but I just do not succeed. He came to our home to eat, had six times to the toilet of the nerves, very cute, but I found him just not fun. I think the contrast in Patrick attracts me very much. That wrong in what he sat and occasionally still is the top drive again, and the homely, dear, the father to the other side. He was not like other friends who called or I to the latest cinema, no, just called Patrick and said: "We are going out, I get about an hour to retrieve." I like that. And does he now still. He likes to surprise me, let me often feel that he is overjoyed with me and we do many fun things together or with the children, Michelle and Jaden eight of two. Patrick is a good man. You also have bad men from a mistake and a family environment are wrong. Patrick is just a very good, warm nest. His character is good, but he is a naughty boy and very sensitive to stimuli. In several interviews he has unfortunately been rather leaky about his sex life of the past. For example, he once told him that night at McDonald's with three snollen lie on the counter has sliding. But I was one of those girls. The first half year courtship that we had, we have only and there was always a lot of drugs to pass. Then we went early morning to go home and went there often are two beautiful girls with blood. No, I was not that bad, because Patrick was my friend and I was so seriously at that time now is not with him. But when I was pregnant, we went to Aruba. When was that wild period immediately and he also no longer gedeald. That was a condition, otherwise I was with him gone.

Joran period

I have always known that we were not the typical torque. I work one day per week Prenatal with fourteen other women, but I would not want to exchange them. I hear my colleagues say that her husband at half past one night came home and that he now no longer provisional road may ... Well, Patrick is sometimes half past seven morning at home. I know girls with a Antillian and then go find and where to call their friend. Then I think: 'Hold on, tire your life there is not. You're a nice woman, have two children if he wants to go with someone else then surely that is their loss? "I do not let my life guided by the constant question of whether I'm nice enough. We were recently in Milan with the children on the street, there was a girl for us, beautiful, beautiful figure and Patrick said, "Oh girl yet, what are you doing with me." I feel no way offended, namely find myself pretty fun . Even later why we are on the road to the hotel by a Zone, jumped a prostitute for our car. That shocked me when she and the children also saw sitting there. Since Patrick and I really had to laugh. He said: 'Hey what faint, as best you can with the children to move back. What does that now. "We have a lot of fun together. The humor has also throughout the period around Joran towed. We lived just two weeks in a recreation in Arnhem when he learned Joran in the casino. In order three thirty at night, he was shaking me awake. "I've seen Joran, he did it and he will tell me." I do not believe in coincidence, it has to be fit. Joran Patrick is not going to find, but when he thought he saw him: "That is Me. "Joran The story will the rest of our lives but we continue. It is a kind of story loverboy. That kid looks so strong against Patrick. If he would call him now and say: 'That I have done good, huh? I got quite some money on reared and I have also what you get here? "Joran would go where he left off. Absolutely. Joran has during the broadcast with Patrick sit still and SMS. When he still could not believe that Patrick had geluisd him. He said simply: "What are you good, say!"

Good Heavens - Patrick's woman is really pretty! There is no rhyme nor reason for how we humans match up!   

[MumInOhio]

G'day Tib...How is Spring Downunder?

[Tibrogargan]

Still reading here daily and hoping the latest developments will bring answers.

With the early arrest of the security guards you have to remember that racism is alive and well with many nationalities and in most countries - the Dutch and Aruba being on that list.

Also if anyone else other than Joran was involved in actually harming Natalee, Paulus would have hung them out to dry in first week.

Patrick's girlfriend is pretty but her story illustrates the permissive lifestyle that is acceptable in Europe and carried to even greater lengths on Aruba, hence their culture of exploiting women.

[Tibrogargan]

G'day Mum - this far south it is more like winter at present despite the bulbs and blossom trees in full colour.
Glad to see you are back on the air.

[SS]

From what we have learned there are two people named Max Arends(sz).

The first Max Arends is a friend of Urine and the Pimps.  He is the one I refer to as "eyebrows".  Following Natalee's disappearance he went to Valencia County College in Florida.  He has since returned and is currently living in Aruba.

The second Max (Maxito) Arendsz is the owner of the Aruba Speedshop.  At one point, he was posting and reported that he did not know Lorenzo, although he later provided the photograph of Lorenzo in his van.  It was later learned that this Max was interviewed by ALE and provided an alibi for Lorenzo, saying he was with himthe night Natalee disappeared.  He is reportedly a friend of Lorenzo.

Caps - is the 5th suspect Max Arends, Max Arendsz, or Lorenzo?

[SS]

This is a recent photograph of Max Arends (Eyebrows) with his grandfather.  This Max Arends was one of the Pimps.

[MumInOhio]

From what we have learned there are two people named Max Arends(sz).

The first Max Arends is a friend of Urine and the Pimps.  He is the one I refer to as "eyebrows".  Following Natalee's disappearance he went to Valencia County College in Florida.  He has since returned and is currently living in Aruba.
Confused with Freddy as the alibi for the sleepover? According to Fox was questioned 6/16. This is in Shango and Blonde has it also.

The second Max (Maxito) Arendsz is the owner of the Aruba Speedshop.  At one point, he was posting and reported that he did not know Lorenzo, although he later provided the photograph of Lorenzo in his van.  It was later learned that this Max was interviewed by ALE and provided an alibi for Lorenzo, saying he was with himthe night Natalee disappeared.  He is reportedly a friend of Lorenzo.
I "think" it was Peeps with the pic of the van???

Caps - is the 5th suspect Max Arends, Max Arendsz, or Lorenzo? Or Freddy Zedan/Arends - not Arambatzis per your research, with which I agree...

Good Morning...my responses in blue

[SS]

Somewhere on one of these threads there is a photograph of Max (Maxito) Arendsz who is the friend of Lorenzo, but I can't find it.  Does anyone know where it is?

[SS]

From what we have learned there are two people named Max Arends(sz).

The first Max Arends is a friend of Urine and the Pimps.  He is the one I refer to as "eyebrows".  Following Natalee's disappearance he went to Valencia County College in Florida.  He has since returned and is currently living in Aruba.
Confused with Freddy as the alibi for the sleepover? According to Fox was questioned 6/16. This is in Shango and Blonde has it also.

The second Max (Maxito) Arendsz is the owner of the Aruba Speedshop.  At one point, he was posting and reported that he did not know Lorenzo, although he later provided the photograph of Lorenzo in his van.  It was later learned that this Max was interviewed by ALE and provided an alibi for Lorenzo, saying he was with himthe night Natalee disappeared.  He is reportedly a friend of Lorenzo.
I "think" it was Peeps with the pic of the van???

Caps - is the 5th suspect Max Arends, Max Arendsz, or Lorenzo? Or Freddy Zedan/Arends - not Arambatzis per your research, with which I agree...

Good Morning...my responses in blue

Good Morning Mum -

I agree, Freddy is still right up there as a possibility for the 5th.
Was it ever determined that "Peeps" and Maxito Arendsz were the same person?

[SS]

Caps - we really need to know who the 5th suspect is. 

[RoxiBalboa]

Sep 20, 2008


RE: MY open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty

Hallo bigjuicykunfu


In the Kingdom of the Netherlands the justice system is corrupt, because the head of state queen Beatrix and the prime minister Balkenende support corruption and crimes against humanity!

I well come you to my open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty

tell a friend to visite my "Open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty " on moth oktober 2008 eight i willbe at tv spain about corruption in the kingdom of netherlands and about natalee holloway


Regards carlos severino tromp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDX0GSWDqwo

 

Can someone tell me briefly who Carlos is? And he's going to be on tv in Spain on the 8th? The same date that CLW has mentioned? Is this something I should get mildly excited about or nothing? Confused!

[vms]

Max Arendsz:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=69879120


Peeps = Andry Lopez
http://www.myspace.com/a_n_d_r_y




Caption: Godo, Shaniro, Me, Max on Happy Hour @ Choose-A-Name

Me in the caption is Andry.
I always wondered if Shaniro Kelly gave info to Peeps as it seems that they are good friends...

[Buckeye]

Sep 20, 2008


RE: MY open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty

Hallo bigjuicykunfu


In the Kingdom of the Netherlands the justice system is corrupt, because the head of state queen Beatrix and the prime minister Balkenende support corruption and crimes against humanity!

I well come you to my open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty

tell a friend to visite my "Open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty " on moth oktober 2008 eight i willbe at tv spain about corruption in the kingdom of netherlands and about natalee holloway


Regards carlos severino tromp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDX0GSWDqwo

 

Can someone tell me briefly who Carlos is? And he's going to be on tv in Spain on the 8th? The same date that CLW has mentioned? Is this something I should get mildly excited about or nothing? Confused!

Brief is not possible.  I don't know anything about the date.  I, too, am interested.  Web site for Carlos....good luck...

http://www.koninginnlwatismensenrechten.com/

[RoxiBalboa]

thanks Buckeye.....its all greek to me 

[MumInOhio]

Sep 20, 2008


RE: MY open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty

Hallo bigjuicykunfu


In the Kingdom of the Netherlands the justice system is corrupt, because the head of state queen Beatrix and the prime minister Balkenende support corruption and crimes against humanity!

I well come you to my open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty

tell a friend to visite my "Open letter to mrs. Beth Twitty " on moth oktober 2008 eight i willbe at tv spain about corruption in the kingdom of netherlands and about natalee holloway


Regards carlos severino tromp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDX0GSWDqwo

 

Can someone tell me briefly who Carlos is? And he's going to be on tv in Spain on the 8th? The same date that CLW has mentioned? Is this something I should get mildly excited about or nothing? Confused!

I would love to know more about him, considered emailing him, but he has quoted this Forum twice now and seems confused to say the least!

Google ... carlos13tromp....tromp13carlos...Carlos Severino Tromp

[Lala'sMom]

Caps - we really need to know who the 5th suspect is. 

I will try to find some of Caps posts on his thoughts about the 5th suspect...keep in mind they changed as often as mine did...he had just as much trouble pinning it down as all of us.  I think maybe we should just ask Armin...I think I know what he would say...maybe. LOL

[Lala'sMom]

FYI I found on Max Arends/z while searching for something else:

Buckeye
Scared Monkey

   
Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #706 on: April 01, 2008, 07:59:06 PM »
   
Max Arends (the eyebrow one) went to school with Joran.  His sister posted under the nic Adella, at websleuths, early on.  I can't find her original post, but this summary is accurate with my recollection:

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Wasn't there an Arens and an Arends? I can't remember exactly, but I think Adella's brother was concerned that his name was very similar to someone else's.

I found the old thread but could not get it to work to show everyone. Adella said the one arrested was Macito Arendez and NOT her brother Max Arrend. She said that the media was wanting him to do interviews since he knew Joran and that is how his name got out there.

I really miss her posting.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26041&page=10