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Lala'sMom
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 through
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September 21, 2008, 10:49:07 AM »
Sorry, forgot to post the link where this is found...it's in Shango,of course.
Buckeye
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #709 on: April 01, 2008, 09:01:13 PM »
Found an ******* quote about Max. (Original) Link doesn't work.
June 19, 2005
AG: here's a post from "Adella" from Aruba on websleuths yesterday i believe. It adresses the two max situation.
Hold your horses!!!!
I've been trying to keep up with the posts because I left of yesterday before part 6 was even closed....but when I got to post 101 I was shocked! And I started to quickly glance over everything to post an update already!!!
I have to say, YOU GUYS ARE FAST@! This Max Arends is my brother! He's at home, chillin' all freaked out because you already know him! He is actually Joran's class-mate and exactly the person I was mentioning in part 6 that CNBC is desperately trying to contact for a 'simple' interview. He didn't want to participate since they want to question him by himself and they want a possitive side of Joran, I think as well as he think that they will EAT HIM ALIVE if he does that!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.700
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 through
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More about an Arends: Courtesy of Shango #1.
MumInOhio
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2
« Reply #733 on: April 02, 2008, 04:56:35 AM »
Quote from: Buckeye on April 01, 2008, 09:01:13 PM
Found an ******* quote about Max. (Original) Link doesn't work.
June 19, 2005
AG: here's a post from "Adella" from Aruba on websleuths yesterday i believe. It adresses the two max situation.
Hold your horses!!!!
I've been trying to keep up with the posts because I left of yesterday before part 6 was even closed....but when I got to post 101 I was shocked! And I started to quickly glance over everything to post an update already!!!
I have to say, YOU GUYS ARE FAST@! This Max Arends is my brother! He's at home, chillin' all freaked out because you already know him! He is actually Joran's class-mate and exactly the person I was mentioning in part 6 that CNBC is desperately trying to contact for a 'simple' interview. He didn't want to participate since they want to question him by himself and they want a possitive side of Joran, I think as well as he think that they will EAT HIM ALIVE if he does that!
Anyhow, he's not the Max Arends that being arrested, this is another Max Arends who I happen to know as well, his name is actually not Max Arends, but Maxito, and his last name is Arendsz. I'm not sure what's happening to him right now, but I already have someone trying to find that out.
Again, my borther is not arrested and has anything to do with this
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2103.520
Thanks Buckeye…Here is what I found on Max Arends…and the link: This article also has the fact that a Dutch man was questioned the previous night.
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Meanwhile, police brought in yet another man for questioning Friday night, FOX News has learned. The man, Max Arends, who is also a friend of van der Sloot, is not a suspect in the case and has not been arrested.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159970,00.html
The post about Freddy Arends, that I referred to from Scuba was from August, and the name quickly changed to Arambatzis.
I researched the Frederick Arends that you referenced after Kermit posted Freddy Zedan’s address as 7A Catiri. This was said to be Freddy’s apartment.
There is also the question as to why Freddy was secretly released in September when the Kalpoes were paraded in front of the TV cameras. I guess some-one didn’t want us to see his face.
I have asked Caps many times about the 7A Catiri address and about Freddy...still waiting!
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2733.720
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 through
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Isn't Max Arends...the one that is Joran's age....the son of Dilma and brother to
the poster MF at RU?
The other Maximito Arendz is the age of Lorenzo...close to 30 now.
He is into the Aruba Speedraceing. He was the alibi.
I have heard mention of yet another Max Arends that was only about 12
at the time of Natalee's disappearance.
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Quote from: Magnolia on September 21, 2008, 11:16:33 AM
Isn't Max Arends...the one that is Joran's age....the son of Dilma and brother to
the poster MF at RU?
The other Maximito Arendz is the age of Lorenzo...close to 30 now.
He is into the Aruba Speedraceing. He was the alibi.
I have heard mention of yet another Max Arends that was only about 12
at the time of Natalee's disappearance.
Oh yeah...lots of the same names running around. You should look for Freddys if you think Max is confusing...I think Mum practically lost her mind trying to sort them all out and who belongs to whom. We were hopping in Shango for a while over these names.
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Quote from: Magnolia on September 21, 2008, 11:16:33 AM
Isn't Max Arends...the one that is Joran's age....the son of Dilma and brother to
the poster MF at RU?
The other Maximito Arendz is the age of Lorenzo...close to 30 now.
He is into the Aruba Speedraceing. He was the alibi.
I have heard mention of yet another Max Arends that was only about 12
at the time of Natalee's disappearance.
Yes Magnolia, this is the one. Maxito Arendsz owns the Speedshop. He started posting as "Peeps" and/or he is Peeps. He initally defended Lorenzo and said that he only knew him because Lorenzo and his mother had come to the Speedshop a few times. He told us that Lorenzo doesn't use the Internet and he never allows his picture to be taken. He then sent the picture of Lorenzo in his van. This was questioned because how did he get the picture with Lorenzo looking straight at the camera? He also claimed that he (Maxito) was not part of the social scene on Aruba. I think we later learned that this Maxito is the same age as Lorenzo and they are in fact friends. So, he lied. I think this is also the same Max Arendsz who provided an alibi for Lorenzo and told ALE that he was at a party at Lorenzo's house. Max's alibi fits Shango/Simian. But, Max Arendsz wouldn't have been the host of the party that he said he attended. The alibi was for Lorenzo and it was Lorenzo's party. Lorenzo was the host which ties back into the codetalkers and indicates that Lorenzo could be the 5th. Supposedly, Lorenzo's girlfriend also gave Lorenzo an alibi and said the he was having a small party at home.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 through
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JORAN CAST HIMSELF AS A FELLOW "TOURIST".
SUNDAY MAY 29, 2005
While on the beach:
Lee Ashford Broughton states that
Natalee met Joran Van der Sloot on the beach
during the time that Natalee was there in the day.
Holiday Inn Bar by Pool
Lee Ashford Broughton: Following the MB students exiting from the Excelsior casino,
Joran VDS walked with Natalee and other students to the
HI Bar by the pool.
"At about 9:45 PM,
Natalee, LAB, Joran and others walked over to the
BAR BY THE POOL
.
After telling students that no one really goes out on Sundays, Joran left the students, after about 5 minutes.
KISSEL: I didn't know him, but
I had seen -- he had been around the hotel and the casino with her and with her friends, her closer friends, just hanging out around the hotel for the last few days, two or three days.
THE "SPORTS BAR IS INSIDE THE MAIN HI LOBBY ENTRANCE AREA, JUST ADJACENT TO THE CASINO.
THE POOL BAR, IS OUTSIDE, BY THE POOL AREA, AND CLOSER TO THE WATER AND THE BEACH AREAS.
The Sports Bar.
Joran at the Sports Bar:
“I would be going to C and C’s that night”.
Joran watches baseball and meets two “friends”.
After MB students place Joran as leaving the Bar by the pool after staying for only five minutes, Joran places himself inside the Sportsbar of the hotel where he watches the baseball game, and meets two friends telling them he would be going to C and C’s: * 9: 55 PM
In the Sports bar I also saw to two acquaintances who were watching baseball. I greeted my two acquaintances and told them that I was doing fine too and that I would be going to "Carlos & Charlies" that night. My two acquaintances are named "Luis" and "Joshua". I regularly meet them at Carlos & Charlies. The last name of Luis is "BETANCOURT". I do not know the last name of Joshua. Luis BETANCOURT is a Venezuelan and according to me Joshua is Colombian but I don't know that for sure. (JVDS 6/9/05)
Joran walks up to a group of girls and tells them that concerning his going to C and C's: “I would do my best.”
Following Joran stating to his friends, that he would be going to C and C’s that night, Joran then walks up to some MB students who have not left for C and C's, and Joran tells them that he "would do his best": (JVDS 6/9/05)
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Way, way back there was some talk about Natalee possibly being shot in the head or she was brutally hit in the head. Does anyone remember anything about this? I do know that Val told someone at school that there was a girl in the bathtub who had been hit in the head with a bat. One of the codetalkers also mentioned that Natalee had been decapitated and that her head and body were in two places. I think it was Simian??? He said that her head would wash up on shore. Does anyone remeber anything about this?
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Premeditation in the context of murder describes actions which were planned prior to their being executed.
Premeditation in the context of murder describes actions which were planned prior to their being executed.
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September 21, 2008, 01:13:56 PM »
Has anyone figured out what is going on with the 8th? Caps told us to wait until the 8th and Carlos Severino Trump is doing a program on the 8th. Is this guy planning to reveal more information?????
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Quote from: SS on September 21, 2008, 01:11:22 PM
Way, way back there was some talk about Natalee possibly being shot in the head or she was brutally hit in the head. Does anyone remember anything about this? I do know that Val told someone at school that there was a girl in the bathtub who had been hit in the head with a bat. One of the codetalkers also mentioned that Natalee had been decapitated and that her head and body were in two places. I think it was Simian??? He said that her head would wash up on shore. Does anyone remeber anything about this?
That would be Carpe, I think.
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Picture from DATELINE crab trap posted on SM
LOOKS LIKE A TENNIS SHOE
TIM SAYS IT LOOKS LIKE A SKULL - WELL TIM I AGREE AND IT LOOKS LIKE A SKULL AND ONE TENNIS SHOE!
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Quote from: Kermit on September 21, 2008, 01:07:03 PM
JORAN CAST HIMSELF AS A FELLOW "TOURIST".
SUNDAY MAY 29, 2005
While on the beach:
Lee Ashford Broughton states that
Natalee met Joran Van der Sloot on the beach
during the time that Natalee was there in the day.
Holiday Inn Bar by Pool
Lee Ashford Broughton: Following the MB students exiting from the Excelsior casino,
Joran VDS walked with Natalee and other students to the
HI Bar by the pool.
"At about 9:45 PM,
Natalee, LAB, Joran and others walked over to the
BAR BY THE POOL
.
After telling students that no one really goes out on Sundays, Joran left the students, after about 5 minutes.
KISSEL: I didn't know him, but
I had seen -- he had been around the hotel and the casino with her and with her friends, her closer friends, just hanging out around the hotel for the last few days, two or three days.
THE "SPORTS BAR IS INSIDE THE MAIN HI LOBBY ENTRANCE AREA, JUST ADJACENT TO THE CASINO.
THE POOL BAR, IS OUTSIDE, BY THE POOL AREA, AND CLOSER TO THE WATER AND THE BEACH AREAS.
The Sports Bar.
Joran at the Sports Bar:
“I would be going to C and C’s that night”.
Joran watches baseball and meets two “friends”.
After MB students place Joran as leaving the Bar by the pool after staying for only five minutes, Joran places himself inside the Sportsbar of the hotel where he watches the baseball game, and meets two friends telling them he would be going to C and C’s: * 9: 55 PM
In the Sports bar I also saw to two acquaintances who were watching baseball. I greeted my two acquaintances and told them that I was doing fine too and that I would be going to "Carlos & Charlies" that night. My two acquaintances are named "Luis" and "Joshua". I regularly meet them at Carlos & Charlies. The last name of Luis is "BETANCOURT". I do not know the last name of Joshua. Luis BETANCOURT is a Venezuelan and according to me Joshua is Colombian but I don't know that for sure. (JVDS 6/9/05)
Joran walks up to a group of girls and tells them that concerning his going to C and C's: “I would do my best.”
Following Joran stating to his friends, that he would be going to C and C’s that night, Joran then walks up to some MB students who have not left for C and C's, and Joran tells them that he "would do his best": (JVDS 6/9/05)
Thanks Kermit. Here's your treat.
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Monkey's pay attention! Focus! Do not get sidetracked.
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Woo Hoo a banquet on Sunday for moi!
Thank you SS
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I meant to post crab trap, not crap trap.
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Thanks Kermit! Doing my best to stay focused here!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Quote from: Kermit on September 21, 2008, 01:24:50 PM
I meant to post crab trap, not crab trap.
Guess you wern't focused!!!!
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"The...sonar data reveals the seabed as if it were a scroll...The numerous ROV dives are the rosetta stone for reading the great manuscript."
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Quote from: SS on September 21, 2008, 01:11:22 PM
Way, way back there was some talk about Natalee possibly being shot in the head or she was brutally hit in the head. Does anyone remember anything about this? I do know that Val told someone at school that there was a girl in the bathtub who had been hit in the head with a bat. One of the codetalkers also mentioned that Natalee had been decapitated and that her head and body were in two places. I think it was Simian??? He said that her head would wash up on shore. Does anyone remeber anything about this?
Those verses from Simian were part of the FAKE SIMIAN posts. They were not those uttered by the original Simian and did not have the same IP or email addy to match. Although, I just read something one of our posters posted about decapitation in the Shango 1 thread.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.3260
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