Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 - 10/04/08

[Ono]

LOL,, I keep talking to myself.  IMO Natalee is not hidden on SLoot's property but I do think that she was there at one point.  There would be no reason to supress the search warrants for their property if Natalee was never there.  Unless Joran's clothes were still there?   He's not the brightest bulb on the tree so he probably didn't get rid of them til later.  

I don't know how this scenario fits in with the Matty apartments theory.  Then I think about Jonathan45's theory that she was buried behind the Sloot property where Joran used to play as a kid.

I keep trying to connect the dots.

I have always said Natalee died at the Sloots.  There is something definitely buried on the property that they do not want us to find.

San,  I still agree with that theory.

[Ono]

Does that headline say Joran has manboobs?  (tatas)

LOL~!  Yes....and three of them.

[johan555]

Johann, I found Julia Renfro's original post about the letter from Hans Mos.
She posted it at RU and there is a whole thread about it.

Glenda Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:50 pm   
OM states JR never a person of interest

Daniel Young and Kelly Castillo stated that Julia Renfro not only knows what happened to Natalee Holloway, but hid her in her home while helping her parents search for her. The Prosecutors office of Aruba clearly states that Julia Renfro has never been a person of interest in the case of Natalee Holloway and that the tips given so far have been researched and deemed not valid to the Natalee Holloway case:

Kenmerk: 073/2008

Zeer geachte mevrouw,

Naar aanleiding van diverse recente perspublicatie in relatie tot de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway, heeft zich heden tot mij gewend mevrouw Julia Renfro, u wel bekend.

Op basis van zeer uitvoerige politieonderzoek kan ik u melden dat mevrouw Renfro nimmer als verdachte in dit onderzoek is aangemerkt en er tot op heden ook geen enkele aanleiding is geweest dat te doen, integendeel.

Politie en justitie is, na uitvoerig onderzoek, niet gebleken van enige betrokkenheid van mevrouw Renfro, hoe dan ook, bij de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway.

Iedere suggestie in een andere richting berust niet op feiten.

Het leek mij juist u dit te melden. Ik moge ten aanzien van de wel op de feitengebaseerde conclusies van het OM wijzen op de tekst van mijn persconferentie zoals gegeven op 20 december 2008.

Hoogachtend,

mr. H. F. Mos
Hoofdofficier van Justitie   The Good Witch



Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 5446

 

i have send the letter to Om Aruba and they don't know that letter .
A hoofd Officier like Hans Mos is not a researcher the police do that kind of work .

[COLOMBO]

http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=52528510&groupID=100031701&adTopicID=21&Mytoken=7CC4CE07-8001-4AF9-A104AB657CDC1C1E88815218

excerpt:
Investigator Ricardo Henson of the St. Maarten Police said in an earlier interview that investigators verified that Leta Lynn Cordes made it to the casino that night. But in a written statement, the public relations firm representing the Westin St. Maarten casino said there was no trace of Cordes in surveillance tapes, and staff did not report seeing her.

the Westin in Aruba was Wyndham (Casablanca)

[Dayhiker]

LOL,, I keep talking to myself.  IMO Natalee is not hidden on SLoot's property but I do think that she was there at one point.  There would be no reason to supress the search warrants for their property if Natalee was never there.  Unless Joran's clothes were still there?   He's not the brightest bulb on the tree so he probably didn't get rid of them til later.  

I don't know how this scenario fits in with the Matty apartments theory.  Then I think about Jonathan45's theory that she was buried behind the Sloot property where Joran used to play as a kid.

I keep trying to connect the dots.

I have always said Natalee died at the Sloots.  There is something definitely buried on the property that they do not want us to find.

San,  I still agree with that theory.

Why else would they have Ben Vocking from the prosecutor's office and Dutch Judge Bob Wit at the house to stop the search? Why else would they refuse a search a second time? If the Sloots had nothing to hide, why wouldn't they want their house searched? If they were innocent you'd think they'd want their house searched so that the property could be excluded from suspicion.

[Dayhiker]

i have send the letter to Om Aruba and they don't know that letter .
A hoofd Officier like Hans Mos is not a researcher the police do that kind of work .

Johan, I don't know how Hans wouldn't be aware of the letter, the bitch splashed it all over the front page of her stinkin' fishwrapper.

[SS]

LOL,, I keep talking to myself.  IMO Natalee is not hidden on SLoot's property but I do think that she was there at one point.  There would be no reason to supress the search warrants for their property if Natalee was never there.  Unless Joran's clothes were still there?   He's not the brightest bulb on the tree so he probably didn't get rid of them til later.  

I don't know how this scenario fits in with the Matty apartments theory.  Then I think about Jonathan45's theory that she was buried behind the Sloot property where Joran used to play as a kid.

I keep trying to connect the dots.

I have always said Natalee died at the Sloots.  There is something definitely buried on the property that they do not want us to find.

San,  I still agree with that theory.

Why else would they have Ben Vocking from the prosecutor's office and Dutch Judge Bob Wit at the house to stop the search? Why else would they refuse a search a second time? If the Sloots had nothing to hide, why wouldn't they want their house searched? If they were innocent you'd think they'd want their house searched so that the property could be excluded from suspicion.

I think they cleaned the DNA from the party-goers off of Natalee in the Sloot bathtub before taking her to the pond.  Just like Val said....there was a girl in the bathtub.  Paulass couldn't let them search the main house because they would have found blood/DNA in the drains.

[wreck]

I still think the Sloot house, the pond, AND the crab trap are ALL involved in some manner.

[klaasend]

NUT - is in the process of moving the Marlies posts to a thread just for her.  Please start posting there in regards to Marlies.  The Marlies thread will remain here in the Natalee Holloway forum

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3445.0

[KYcat]

Freakin KEYSTONE COPS   They did not take this seriously when the guards called it in.  Oh, let me see, she will turn up....... at a crackhouse most probably.  WTH is wrong with these islands?!?  Are they all corrupt, lazy, calluous, STUPID??

 

[KYcat]

Klaas , day late dollar short.  Can you move my post to the Marlies thread.  TIA

[Nut44x4]

NUT - is in the process of moving the Marlies posts to a thread just for her.  Please start posting there in regards to Marlies.  The Marlies thread will remain here in the Natalee Holloway forum

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3445.0

Thanks Klaas......just so everyone knows, it may take me a while to move posts over there so be patient, lol. I doubt I can do too many tonight until I get the process down to a science  Will work on it more tomorrow. Just post away in the new thread and as I merge other posts in you will see it fill up, lol.    go nut! go nut! go nut! 

[Rob]

I really don't know alot about Bonaire, because quite frankly, there isn't much to know. All tourism is based around diving. Those going there are divers. I have a friend that has been to Bonaire a few times and I was in his wedding on Aruba. This was the last wedding held in the old building in town. Most of you have seen it, it's the old Dutch Architecture and it's green and white.

As for Americans going there, like I said, it's 99 percent divers. It does not have the nightlife of Aruba and it's an economic hovel.

Curacao and Bonaire are very independent on Aruba to share the wealth, which incidentally, was cut off a few years ago. It was maybe a year before Natalee disappeared. Bonaire and Curacao both received a nice check from Holland to support their system after Aruba cut them off.

IIRC - Curacao received 1.6 million guilders and Bonaire about 1.1 million guilders.

population - 14,000

+++++

Lion's den - this is entirely possible they have moved. The fact that the place is called the Lions Den is freaky enough and it's located right in the area of interest. Nothing would surprise me. This kind of reminds my of the movie Point Blank in a way. Surfers travel the surfing hot spots and hit banks to finance their lifestyle. Patrick Swayze movie.

I think it is possible that there are some dastardly people committing crimes and they do them when they are in the area, or after the heat has died down enough to do them again. This type of criminal organization is hard to nail... and if you're the KLPD with no balls, it's impossible.

[KYcat]

Klaas , day late dollar short.  Can you move my post to the Marlies thread.  TIA

SORRY NUT     You can do it!!! You can do it!!!     

[Port Valerie]

Thanks for the email alerting me to the Bonaire case. I will hope for the best but this happened four days ago? I'll go to the Marlies thread.

[Hotshot]

Oh boy, here we go again.....Read below.
The Bonaire Lions Club has come up with a creative idea to raise funds for the renovation of the Skol di Arte building, as well as for the Sosiedat Diabetiko Boneriano, and Drecha Kas, along with other pending Lions Club projects.  Workshops will be held where prominent Bonaire citizens will make, with the assistance of local artists, their own signed works of art.  These unique masterpieces will be then auctioned at a BBQ.

The workshops will be held at the Kas di Arte (Playa Pabou, on the seaside promenade) on January 17 and 18 starting at 5:30 PM.  The exposition of these unique works of art will be from January 21 through 28, from 5:00 to 8:30 PM.  The culminating auction will be held in conjunction with a BBQ on January 28, starting at 8:00 PM.  Aimed Ayubi and Felix ("Papi") Cicilia will be the auctioneers.

The lucky participants (in alphabetical order) are:  Boi Antoin, Jackie Bernabela, Elsmarie Beukenboom, Ramoncito Booi, Geraldine Dammers, George DeSalvo, Captain Don, Hector Daal, Herbert Domacasse, Richard Hart, Maarten Maartense, Evert Piar, Raymundo Saleh, George Soliana, Jan van der Straten, and Ernst Wesselius.
http://www.bonaireinsider.com/index.php/bonaireinsider/bonaire_lions_club_sponsors_innovative_fundraiser_for_bonaire_charities/

[Hotshot]

Lions Club Lions Den - call Tel: 717-5330, x632 or 717-4944 2nd & 4th Thursdays of each month

http://www.infobonaire.com/weekly.html

[Ono]

LOL,, I keep talking to myself.  IMO Natalee is not hidden on SLoot's property but I do think that she was there at one point.  There would be no reason to supress the search warrants for their property if Natalee was never there.  Unless Joran's clothes were still there?   He's not the brightest bulb on the tree so he probably didn't get rid of them til later.  

I don't know how this scenario fits in with the Matty apartments theory.  Then I think about Jonathan45's theory that she was buried behind the Sloot property where Joran used to play as a kid.

I keep trying to connect the dots.

I have always said Natalee died at the Sloots.  There is something definitely buried on the property that they do not want us to find.

San,  I still agree with that theory.

Why else would they have Ben Vocking from the prosecutor's office and Dutch Judge Bob Wit at the house to stop the search? Why else would they refuse a search a second time? If the Sloots had nothing to hide, why wouldn't they want their house searched? If they were innocent you'd think they'd want their house searched so that the property could be excluded from suspicion.

Yes...common sense dictates, [ demonstrated by their protective actions alone ], the residence had to have played a pivotal role in this crime.  They were/are hot-to-trot to guard it.  Hence, the perspiration drops, as well.

[Hotshot]

Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT go to the roster page.  It is throwing out a few virus's.  I saw some good names prior to getting hit though...  Kalpoes father.

[Rob]

just so everyone knows - Jan Van Der Straaten is not on Bonaire. He's back on Aruba as far as the conversations I have had with the polis on Bonaire.