Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 - 10/04/08

[natalfan]

Welcome natalfan...The casino is in his son's name 

I have been trying to figure out Paulus' job description during this time period.

IIRC he was the private secretary to the AG for 8 years, which would end 12/31/2002. Before that he had a 5 year contract with the Aruban government as a Lands Advocate, dirty hand as Johan says.

Not sure where the contracts fit in?

EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V.
Business address J.E. IRAUSQUIN BLVD. 230, NOORD
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 19 JUNE 1998

Authorized capital ARUBAN FLORINS 100,000.00
Issued capital ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Paid up capital ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Fiscal year 01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER

DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
POSNER, WALTER BRETT;
Residing in 9 BANOCKBURN COURT , BANOCKBURN III, U.S.A.
Born in U.S.A., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS on 21 MAY 1960
Nationality AMERICAN
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 23 OCTOBER 1998
Authority FULL
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
TO OPERATE A CASINO AT THE "HOLIDAY IN RESORT".

and Wikipedia: Michael Posner: casino owner ?????

What a mess on Aruba

[Lala'sMom]

Nut...I am bringing Johan's post over here because of the references to Aruba and Natalee...


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Re: Marlies van der Kouw, 24, kidnapped in Bonaire 9/21/08
« Reply #10 on: Today at 05:05:12 AM » Quote 

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Marlies kidnapping seems misunderstanding
By PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE - The abduction of Leusdense Marlies van der Kouw possible based on a mistaken identity. Antillean different sources reporting this. The police will not comment on Bonaire.

 Marlies van der Kouw disappeared Sunday morning. Bonaire on Wednesday was an attempt to kidnap an 8-year-old girl instead. It was the daughter of the convicted for drug trafficking Wout of Kouwen, a Dutchman who lives in Bonaire. He also has a 17-year-old daughter, who in Kralendijk next Karel's Beach Bar works.

Marlies van der Kouw visited the bar just before she was abducted. Sources on Bonaire reported that her abduction may be based on a mistaken identity with the eldest daughter of Van Kouwen. From Kouwen themselves according to insiders is not currently on the island. The police have been suffered by several people inquire about him.

The population of Bonaire is dead cramped that the disappearance of Marlies van der Kouw casts a slur on the good name of the crowded tourist north.

,, Bonaire is emerging, there are many wealthy Dutch. It has always been peaceful. We are not Aruba with Miami-like conditions,''says Johan Visser, in the capital Kralendijk decades Karel's Beach Bar runs.

The islanders also reject any suggestion that the disappearance of the intern Leusdense is similar to the case of Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005. ,, This is Bonaire. Something never done here,''says George Abrahams, spokesman for the police.

,, There are two fatalities per year. We have a gevangenisje with less than fifty convicts. And then only for theft or abuse.''

The police station is an excited activity. 'Every agent on the island has been reported to help search for Marlies. They run night services, and are noon to try again to resolve this matter,''says Abrahams. Justice sings them in choir.

,, Bonaire is a village, which is not much different from any village in the Netherlands where nothing happens. This tragedy makes people suddenly not criminal,''suggests parketsecretaris Andre Haltman.
***********************************************************************************Ontvoering Marlies lijkt misverstand
AD Door PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE - De ontvoering van de Leusdense Marlies van der Kouwe berust mogelijk op een persoonsverwisseling. Verschillende Antilliaanse bronnen melden dit. De politie op Bonaire geeft geen commentaar.
 
Marlies van der Kouwe in het vliegtuig op weg naar Bonaire.
Marlies van der Kouwe verdween zondagochtend. Woensdag vond op Bonaire een poging tot ontvoering van een 8-jarig meisje plaats. Het ging om de dochter van de voor drugshandel veroordeelde Wout van Kouwen, een Nederlander die op Bonaire woont. Hij heeft ook een 17-jarige dochter, die in Kralendijk naast Karel's Beach Bar werkt.

Marlies van der Kouwe bezocht deze bar vlak voordat zij werd ontvoerd. Bronnen op Bonaire melden dat haar ontvoering mogelijk berust op een persoonsverwisseling met de oudste dochter van Van Kouwen. Van Kouwen zelf bevindt zich volgens ingewijden momenteel niet op het eiland. De politie heeft inmiddels bij diverse personen navraag naar hem gedaan.

De bevolking van Bonaire is doodsbenauwd dat de verdwijning van Marlies van der Kouwe een smet werpt op de goede naam van het drukbezochte toeristenoord.

,,Bonaire is in opkomst, er komen hier veel rijke Nederlanders. Het is hier altijd vredig geweest. We zijn geen Aruba met Miami-achtige toestanden,'' zegt Johan Visser, die in de hoofdstad Kralendijk al decennialang Karel's Beach Bar runt.

De eilanders verwerpen dan ook elke suggestie dat de verdwijning van de Leusdense stagiaire is te vergelijken met de zaak-Natalee Holloway in 2005 op Aruba. ,,Dit is Bonaire. Hier gebeurt nooit iets,'' zegt George Abrahams, woordvoerder van de politie.

,,Er zijn twee verkeersdoden per jaar. We hebben een gevangenisje met minder dan vijftig veroordeelden. En dan nog alleen voor diefstal of mishandeling.''

In het politiebureau heerst een opgewonden bedrijvigheid. ,,Iedere agent op het eiland heeft zich gemeld om te helpen zoeken naar Marlies. Ze draaien nachtdiensten en zijn er dan 's middags weer om te proberen deze zaak op te lossen,'' zegt Abrahams. Justitie zingt mee in het koor.

,,Bonaire is een dorp, dat niet veel verschilt van een willekeurig dorpje in Nederland waar nooit iets gebeurt. Dit drama maakt de bevolking niet ineens crimineel,'' stelt parketsecretaris André Haltman.

Miami-like conditions.....ooohhhh!!!!  I hear Shango again. 

[Jonathan45]

@MumInOhio

Paulus was away for two years [Arnhem & Curacao]. During this period Joran [16 at the time] started playing poker, dating local girls and copying his friends to pick up tourist girls.
Jan van der Straten was a close friend of Anita and Paulus.
Do you or someone else know about a casino visiting history of van der Straten ?
It wouldn't surprise me.
Fact is that he and Paulus exchanged a lot of phone calls during the first ten days after Natalee vanished.
It was David Dick [PAR] who offered Jan a new job at Bonaire in July 2005.
Is Eef Twillert - van der Straten Jan's daughter ?
How many kids did Jan's wife deliver to the world ?
And where did they live on Aruba when he was chief of the police ?

It was Joran who made the puzzle.

[MumInOhio]

Nut...I am bringing Johan's post over here because of the references to Aruba and Natalee...


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Re: Marlies van der Kouw, 24, kidnapped in Bonaire 9/21/08
« Reply #10 on: Today at 05:05:12 AM » Quote 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marlies kidnapping seems misunderstanding
By PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE - The abduction of Leusdense Marlies van der Kouw possible based on a mistaken identity. Antillean different sources reporting this. The police will not comment on Bonaire.

 Marlies van der Kouw disappeared Sunday morning. Bonaire on Wednesday was an attempt to kidnap an 8-year-old girl instead. It was the daughter of the convicted for drug trafficking Wout of Kouwen, a Dutchman who lives in Bonaire. He also has a 17-year-old daughter, who in Kralendijk next Karel's Beach Bar works.

Marlies van der Kouw visited the bar just before she was abducted. Sources on Bonaire reported that her abduction may be based on a mistaken identity with the eldest daughter of Van Kouwen. From Kouwen themselves according to insiders is not currently on the island. The police have been suffered by several people inquire about him.

The population of Bonaire is dead cramped that the disappearance of Marlies van der Kouw casts a slur on the good name of the crowded tourist north.

,, Bonaire is emerging, there are many wealthy Dutch. It has always been peaceful. We are not Aruba with Miami-like conditions,''says Johan Visser, in the capital Kralendijk decades Karel's Beach Bar runs.

The islanders also reject any suggestion that the disappearance of the intern Leusdense is similar to the case of Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005. ,, This is Bonaire. Something never done here,''says George Abrahams, spokesman for the police.

,, There are two fatalities per year. We have a gevangenisje with less than fifty convicts. And then only for theft or abuse.''

The police station is an excited activity. 'Every agent on the island has been reported to help search for Marlies. They run night services, and are noon to try again to resolve this matter,''says Abrahams. Justice sings them in choir.

,, Bonaire is a village, which is not much different from any village in the Netherlands where nothing happens. This tragedy makes people suddenly not criminal,''suggests parketsecretaris Andre Haltman.
***********************************************************************************Ontvoering Marlies lijkt misverstand
AD Door PETER DE KNEGT
BONAIRE - De ontvoering van de Leusdense Marlies van der Kouwe berust mogelijk op een persoonsverwisseling. Verschillende Antilliaanse bronnen melden dit. De politie op Bonaire geeft geen commentaar.
 
Marlies van der Kouwe in het vliegtuig op weg naar Bonaire.
Marlies van der Kouwe verdween zondagochtend. Woensdag vond op Bonaire een poging tot ontvoering van een 8-jarig meisje plaats. Het ging om de dochter van de voor drugshandel veroordeelde Wout van Kouwen, een Nederlander die op Bonaire woont. Hij heeft ook een 17-jarige dochter, die in Kralendijk naast Karel's Beach Bar werkt.

Marlies van der Kouwe bezocht deze bar vlak voordat zij werd ontvoerd. Bronnen op Bonaire melden dat haar ontvoering mogelijk berust op een persoonsverwisseling met de oudste dochter van Van Kouwen. Van Kouwen zelf bevindt zich volgens ingewijden momenteel niet op het eiland. De politie heeft inmiddels bij diverse personen navraag naar hem gedaan.

De bevolking van Bonaire is doodsbenauwd dat de verdwijning van Marlies van der Kouwe een smet werpt op de goede naam van het drukbezochte toeristenoord.

,,Bonaire is in opkomst, er komen hier veel rijke Nederlanders. Het is hier altijd vredig geweest. We zijn geen Aruba met Miami-achtige toestanden,'' zegt Johan Visser, die in de hoofdstad Kralendijk al decennialang Karel's Beach Bar runt.

De eilanders verwerpen dan ook elke suggestie dat de verdwijning van de Leusdense stagiaire is te vergelijken met de zaak-Natalee Holloway in 2005 op Aruba. ,,Dit is Bonaire. Hier gebeurt nooit iets,'' zegt George Abrahams, woordvoerder van de politie.

,,Er zijn twee verkeersdoden per jaar. We hebben een gevangenisje met minder dan vijftig veroordeelden. En dan nog alleen voor diefstal of mishandeling.''

In het politiebureau heerst een opgewonden bedrijvigheid. ,,Iedere agent op het eiland heeft zich gemeld om te helpen zoeken naar Marlies. Ze draaien nachtdiensten en zijn er dan 's middags weer om te proberen deze zaak op te lossen,'' zegt Abrahams. Justitie zingt mee in het koor.

,,Bonaire is een dorp, dat niet veel verschilt van een willekeurig dorpje in Nederland waar nooit iets gebeurt. Dit drama maakt de bevolking niet ineens crimineel,'' stelt parketsecretaris André Haltman.

Miami-like conditions.....ooohhhh!!!!  I hear Shango again. 


Thought you'd like that...Good Morning!

[Lala'sMom]

Welcome natalfan...The casino is in his son's name 

I have been trying to figure out Paulus' job description during this time period.

IIRC he was the private secretary to the AG for 8 years, which would end 12/31/2002. Before that he had a 5 year contract with the Aruban government as a Lands Advocate, dirty hand as Johan says.

Not sure where the contracts fit in?

EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V.
Business address J.E. IRAUSQUIN BLVD. 230, NOORD
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 19 JUNE 1998

Authorized capital ARUBAN FLORINS 100,000.00
Issued capital ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Paid up capital ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Fiscal year 01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER

DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
POSNER, WALTER BRETT;
Residing in 9 BANOCKBURN COURT , BANOCKBURN III, U.S.A.
Born in U.S.A., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS on 21 MAY 1960
Nationality AMERICAN
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 23 OCTOBER 1998
Authority FULL
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
TO OPERATE A CASINO AT THE "HOLIDAY IN RESORT".

and Wikipedia: Michael Posner: casino owner ?????

What a mess on Aruba

Posner figures heavily into the Natalee case...if for no other reason than allowing Joran a line of credit at the tender age of 17.  Of course, he's in much deeper than just being the casino owner....much deeper.

[MumInOhio]

@MumInOhio

Paulus was away for two years [Arnhem & Curacao]. During this period Joran [16 at the time] started playing poker, dating local girls and copying his friends to pick up tourist girls.
Jan van der Straten was a close friend of Anita and Paulus.
Do you or someone else know about a casino visiting history of van der Straten ?
It wouldn't surprise me.
Fact is that he and Paulus exchanged a lot of phone calls during the first ten days after Natalee vanished.
It was David Dick [PAR] who offered Jan a new job at Bonaire in July 2005.
Is Eef Twillert - van der Straten Jan's daughter ?
How many kids did Jan's wife deliver to the world ?
And where did they live on Aruba when he was chief of the police ?

It was Joran who made the puzzle.

Jonathan...I am sorry I can't answer any of your questions.

I have some posts saved in Dutch with Eef's name on them, I think they came from the link that went with the info I posted earlier, but I couldn't get the link to open this morning.

I will look later and see if I can find the info on Eefje from the prior discussions. I can post those comments from that site if you want.

I believe the last discussions concluded that Eefje was not Jan's wife.

Some of us thought at first she was because of a post referring to Jan as a grandfather, and his daughter or daughter-in-law as an artist...I will try and track that down as well.

[Lala'sMom]

CAPS=MBOX.....please.

[Lala'sMom]

@MumInOhio

Paulus was away for two years [Arnhem & Curacao]. During this period Joran [16 at the time] started playing poker, dating local girls and copying his friends to pick up tourist girls.
Jan van der Straten was a close friend of Anita and Paulus.
Do you or someone else know about a casino visiting history of van der Straten ?
It wouldn't surprise me.
Fact is that he and Paulus exchanged a lot of phone calls during the first ten days after Natalee vanished.
It was David Dick [PAR] who offered Jan a new job at Bonaire in July 2005.
Is Eef Twillert - van der Straten Jan's daughter ?
How many kids did Jan's wife deliver to the world ?
And where did they live on Aruba when he was chief of the police ?

It was Joran who made the puzzle.

Jonathan...I am sorry I can't answer any of your questions.

I have some posts saved in Dutch with Eef's name on them, I think they came from the link that went with the info I posted earlier, but I couldn't get the link to open this morning.

I will look later and see if I can find the info on Eefje from the prior discussions. I can post those comments from that site if you want.

I believe the last discussions concluded that Eefje was not Jan's wife.

Some of us thought at first she was because of a post referring to Jan as a grandfather, and his daughter or daughter-in-law as an artist...I will try and track that down as well.

He lived near Arubagirl...she verified this several times...she was a friend of the family.

[vms]

EKSPOSISHON DI EEFJE VAN DER STRAATE

KRALENDIJK — Eefje van
der Straate van Twillert, kasá
di Jan van der Straat, hefe di
Polis aki na Boneiru, ta bai
habri su eksposishon di arte
djadumingu 4 di mart pa 6’or
di atardi, ku himno di Boneiru
toká pa The Silver Bullet Steelpans.
Tur hende ta bon bini.
Apertura lo ta den man di
gezaghebber Herbert Domacassé.
Su poesianan lo keda resitá
pa Jan van der Straate i Jackie
Bernabela.
Eefje ta un artista hopi
konosí i renombrá na Aruba ku
a studia arte na Hulanda.
Despues el a bin biba na Aruba
i a kuminsá diseñá stampia i
buki pa mucha. Den e último
añanan laman tabata su inspirashon.
Den su eksposishon di
arte djadumingu e ta konta
tokante laman, un storia ku no
ta kaba nunka pasobra kada
bes tin deskubrimentu di algu
nobo.
E eksposishon lo ta habrí
tur dia na Kas di Arte for dia 4
te ku 30 di Mart di 5’or pa
mitar di ocho di anochi,
entrada ta grátis.
Un di e pinturanan di Eefje van de Straate.
http://www.extrabon.com/edishon/edishon2007/extra2007-03-03.pdf

Through Translator:

kralendijk — eefje van der straate van twillert, spouse of jan van der straat, boss of police here at boneiru, is go open his eksposishon of art Sunday 4 of march for 6’or of nightfall, with anthem of boneiru toká for the silver bullet steelpans. everybody is welcome. aperture will is in hand of gezaghebber herbert domacassé. his poesianan will stay resitá for jan van der straate and jackie bernabela. eefje is one artist much known and renombrá at aruba with owing to study art at the netherlands. after past owing to come live at aruba and owing to comense diseñá stamp and book for child. in the last añanan sea was his inspiration. in his eksposishon of art Sunday the is count about sea, one storia with do not finish ever because every times have deskubrimentu of something new. the eksposishon will is open all day at home of art for day 4 till with 30 of march of 5’or for half of eight of night, entrance is grátis. one of the pinturanan of eefje van de straate.

***********

[vms]

EEFJES ART

The Artist
Born on 12th of September 1946 in de town of Baarn in the Netherlands Eefje grew up in a family of 9 children. After finishing high school Mrs. Van Twillert completed her studies as a midwife. It was soon made clear that her capacities were more in the creative direction. Succesfully the courses ‘creative art for youth leaders A & B’ were completed. These creative capacities were further developed by giving creative therapy at the psyciatric centre ‘Zon and Schild’ in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. During this timeperiod classes were taken in pottery, glazing, etc. and she was given the leadership position in a pottery center in the above mentioned center. This was also the period where lessons with glassmaker Alex Luigjes in Amersfoort were followed for two years. In her marriage the artist raised five children, worked as a leader in various youthcentres and camps and was the coordinator for the after-school program at “C.J. Washington” for a number of years. After 1994 she dedicated herself completely to her drawing and painting, as well as sculpting. 

http://www.eefje-art.com/

[natalfan]

Welcome natalfan...The casino is in his son's name 

I have been trying to figure out Paulus' job description during this time period.

IIRC he was the private secretary to the AG for 8 years, which would end 12/31/2002. Before that he had a 5 year contract with the Aruban government as a Lands Advocate, dirty hand as Johan says.

Not sure where the contracts fit in?

EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V.
Business address J.E. IRAUSQUIN BLVD. 230, NOORD
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company EXCELSIOR CASINO N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 19 JUNE 1998

Authorized capital ARUBAN FLORINS 100,000.00
Issued capital ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Paid up capital ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Fiscal year 01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER

DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
POSNER, WALTER BRETT;
Residing in 9 BANOCKBURN COURT , BANOCKBURN III, U.S.A.
Born in U.S.A., CHICAGO, ILLINOIS on 21 MAY 1960
Nationality AMERICAN
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective 23 OCTOBER 1998
Authority FULL
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
TO OPERATE A CASINO AT THE "HOLIDAY IN RESORT".

and Wikipedia: Michael Posner: casino owner ?????

What a mess on Aruba

Posner figures heavily into the Natalee case...if for no other reason than allowing Joran a line of credit at the tender age of 17.  Of course, he's in much deeper than just being the casino owner....much deeper.

see: EDIT> It is a  to post that Anti-semetic site here.

Where was Posner and where was his son?

[johan555]

i don't think this is jans daughter

[Pita]

EKSPOSISHON DI EEFJE VAN DER STRAATE

KRALENDIJK — Eefje van
der Straate van Twillert, kasá
di Jan van der Straat, hefe di
Polis aki na Boneiru, ta bai
habri su eksposishon di arte
djadumingu 4 di mart pa 6’or
di atardi, ku himno di Boneiru
toká pa The Silver Bullet Steelpans.
Tur hende ta bon bini.
Apertura lo ta den man di
gezaghebber Herbert Domacassé.
Su poesianan lo keda resitá
pa Jan van der Straate i Jackie
Bernabela.
Eefje ta un artista hopi
konosí i renombrá na Aruba ku
a studia arte na Hulanda.
Despues el a bin biba na Aruba
i a kuminsá diseñá stampia i
buki pa mucha. Den e último
añanan laman tabata su inspirashon.
Den su eksposishon di
arte djadumingu e ta konta
tokante laman, un storia ku no
ta kaba nunka pasobra kada
bes tin deskubrimentu di algu
nobo.
E eksposishon lo ta habrí
tur dia na Kas di Arte for dia 4
te ku 30 di Mart di 5’or pa
mitar di ocho di anochi,
entrada ta grátis.
Un di e pinturanan di Eefje van de Straate.
http://www.extrabon.com/edishon/edishon2007/extra2007-03-03.pdf

Through Translator:

kralendijk — eefje van der straate van twillert, spouse of jan van der straat, boss of police here at boneiru, is go open his eksposishon of art Sunday 4 of march for 6’or of nightfall, with anthem of boneiru toká for the silver bullet steelpans. everybody is welcome. aperture will is in hand of gezaghebber herbert domacassé. his poesianan will stay resitá for jan van der straate and jackie bernabela. eefje is one artist much known and renombrá at aruba with owing to study art at the netherlands. after past owing to come live at aruba and owing to comense diseñá stamp and book for child. in the last añanan sea was his inspiration. in his eksposishon of art Sunday the is count about sea, one storia with do not finish ever because every times have deskubrimentu of something new. the eksposishon will is open all day at home of art for day 4 till with 30 of march of 5’or for half of eight of night, entrance is grátis. one of the pinturanan of eefje van de straate.

***********

Previously posted by vms:

Hobbyist Expo
Posted on: 06/22/2004

By Rona Coster

 The Dutch-born teacher is the wife of the island’s police An exposition called Inside Out opened here in the public library. The exposition hangs canvases created by a group of 8 local women who paint on a weekly basis under the guidance of Eefje van der Straten.The Dutch-born teacher is the wife of the island’s police commissioner[/u]. Marianne Beijderwellen has a good drawing talent. He Russian Babouska’s wrinkled and lined face is very touching. Ria Wenderriks has a fascination with Africa. Her Taking a Break, the portrait of a single woman having a lonely beer, is a study of isolation in an urban setting. Zuhaila Arends is a strong colourist. Her Naked, the almost-abstract woman, shows deep passions and the struggle to express herself. One of the budding artists in the group, Anabela Peterson, is also the owner of Pinchos, the cosy bar at the edge of the water at the Surfside marina. “After I left my hectic lifestyle at the hotel,” she explains,” I decided to take up painting, and it has become one of my passions.” Anabela who in a previous life was director of marketing and sales for a large resort property was the emcee for the opening ceremony. She also wrote a poem which she recited for the public. Anabela showed friendly works in vivid colours - flowers, sunsets, art which is a pleasure to look at. Sandra Postma is probably the most gifted from a technical point of view. Her self-portrait brings out her spontaneity and irresistible charm. Imie van der Meulen paints the best-looking realistic Agave plants on the island. She is a classic Aruban landscape painter. Eleanor van Haarlem’s Glass In Motion is very graphic, showing contrasting colours while Wilma Brugts wraps up the show with an impressionistic touch. Some paintings are for sale, some are not. They are personal treasures. The opening ceremony was nicely attended by adoring family members and friends, including hotel representative Lydia Haveman, Anabela’s former colleague visiting the island from Holland, with her husband  . . .

http://news.visitaruba.com/news/do/dispatch/view/id/457/manageArticle.html

[MumInOhio]

EKSPOSISHON DI EEFJE VAN DER STRAATE

KRALENDIJK — Eefje van
der Straate van Twillert, kasá
di Jan van der Straat, hefe di
Polis aki na Boneiru, ta bai
habri su eksposishon di arte
djadumingu 4 di mart pa 6’or
di atardi, ku himno di Boneiru
toká pa The Silver Bullet Steelpans.
Tur hende ta bon bini.
Apertura lo ta den man di
gezaghebber Herbert Domacassé.
Su poesianan lo keda resitá
pa Jan van der Straate i Jackie
Bernabela.
Eefje ta un artista hopi
konosí i renombrá na Aruba ku
a studia arte na Hulanda.
Despues el a bin biba na Aruba
i a kuminsá diseñá stampia i
buki pa mucha. Den e último
añanan laman tabata su inspirashon.
Den su eksposishon di
arte djadumingu e ta konta
tokante laman, un storia ku no
ta kaba nunka pasobra kada
bes tin deskubrimentu di algu
nobo.
E eksposishon lo ta habrí
tur dia na Kas di Arte for dia 4
te ku 30 di Mart di 5’or pa
mitar di ocho di anochi,
entrada ta grátis.
Un di e pinturanan di Eefje van de Straate.
http://www.extrabon.com/edishon/edishon2007/extra2007-03-03.pdf

Through Translator:

kralendijk — eefje van der straate van twillert, spouse of jan van der straat, boss of police here at boneiru, is go open his eksposishon of art Sunday 4 of march for 6’or of nightfall, with anthem of boneiru toká for the silver bullet steelpans. everybody is welcome. aperture will is in hand of gezaghebber herbert domacassé. his poesianan will stay resitá for jan van der straate and jackie bernabela. eefje is one artist much known and renombrá at aruba with owing to study art at the netherlands. after past owing to come live at aruba and owing to comense diseñá stamp and book for child. in the last añanan sea was his inspiration. in his eksposishon of art Sunday the is count about sea, one storia with do not finish ever because every times have deskubrimentu of something new. the eksposishon will is open all day at home of art for day 4 till with 30 of march of 5’or for half of eight of night, entrance is grátis. one of the pinturanan of eefje van de straate.

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Hi vms...Now I am confused...LOL

I know you were here during the first round of discussions, did you see the last lot? I thought after the first round we were convinced that she was, but for some reason I recall something changing my mind in the most recent ones.

Are the 2 boys with the watersports her sons then? I have notes on a woman that I thought may have been her daughter and then there is a Menno van der Straten that IIRC works or has something to do with the hotels...couldn't find much last time I looked.

Thanks...I know you can clear this up...

[Lala'sMom]

I thought Jan was the artist in his family?  Remember that painting he did with the hand or something weird looking?

[Monkey See Monkey Don't Do]

Hi, I'm new here. I just wanted to say I think this whole story is so very sad. Something NEEDS to give here. Natalee needs a proper burial and her family needs closure and arrests NEED to be made.I was reading Natalee's friends statement and she made two of them, WHY? would she lie? This totally blows my mind. Some friend she is. If she knows something? TELL, DAMN IT!!!....Sorry, I'm just so frustrated.. God bless you Natalee wherever you are and God bless the family...

I know this is gruesome but this whole case turns your stomach so I am going to put this out there (I think it has been before) Natalee may be in two different places.  Land and Sea. 

Everything is so cryptic that as soon as I think I have something figured out, I start thinking in a different direction.  Anyone else feel that way?

 

Who's to say that Natalee wasn't placed in the crypt and then removed and put out to sea weeks, days, months later?

I think that maybe on the 6th of June, Jalitza Wever was put in the trap with the
shoe and Natalee was put in her crypt.

That's possible too!

[johan555]

welcome in this crooks nest brandy 7777

[MumInOhio]

I thought Jan was the artist in his family?  Remember that painting he did with the hand or something weird looking?

I will look for Scuba's post in Shango...do you remember if she said the daughter in law wrote children's books?

Notes and links on Lidy...

Ecological and agricultural assessment of aloe fields on Aruba.
Post-M.Sc.-study by Lidy E. van der Straten-Rouwkema M.Sc. (1995)

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:GoHY_MllHZ8J:brochures.aruba.com/government/doahaf.php%3Fname%3Ddoahaf.pdf+Lidy+van+der+Rouwkema&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us



http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.schoolbank.nl/bl/klasgenoten/charlotte-buhlerschool/122231&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=8&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DLidy%2Bvan%2Bder%2BStraten%2B-%2BRouwkema%2B%26hl%3Den%26pwst%3D1

Thanks vms and Pita...I am not going to look for those last discussions...

[MumInOhio]

Hi, I'm new here. I just wanted to say I think this whole story is so very sad. Something NEEDS to give here. Natalee needs a proper burial and her family needs closure and arrests NEED to be made.I was reading Natalee's friends statement and she made two of them, WHY? would she lie? This totally blows my mind. Some friend she is. If she knows something? TELL, DAMN IT!!!....Sorry, I'm just so frustrated.. God bless you Natalee wherever you are and God bless the family...

I know this is gruesome but this whole case turns your stomach so I am going to put this out there (I think it has been before) Natalee may be in two different places.  Land and Sea. 

Everything is so cryptic that as soon as I think I have something figured out, I start thinking in a different direction.  Anyone else feel that way?

 

Who's to say that Natalee wasn't placed in the crypt and then removed and put out to sea weeks, days, months later?

I think that maybe on the 6th of June, Jalitza Wever was put in the trap with the
shoe and Natalee was put in her crypt.

That's possible too!

Hi Brandy and Welcome...Which friend and which statement are you referring to, please?

I think 4 or 5 of the MB student's were called in for another statement. Recall Dompig had questions for them as well...Yeh...Like what did you tell the FBI...LOL

[vms]

CHILDREN’S BOOKS; PAPIAMENTO; ARUBA

Luz, un coneu Arubiano Luz, een Arubaans konijn -- / un storia di Lidy van der Straten - Rouwkema ; cu ilustracion di Eefje van der Straten - van Twillert ; traduccion na Papiamento: Peter Davidse ; adaptacion i redaccion : Joyce Pereira ; redaccion: Gina Ramirez-Ramsbottom. - van der Straten -Rouwkema, Lidy. - 19 p. : ill., tek. ; 24x29 cm. - 99904-86-29-8. - Bogotá, Colombia : Ochoa Impresores, 2005
http://www.una.net/en/diensten/bibliotheek/awl/nov-dec.asp

Mum,

I guess I missed the discussion when it was determined that Eefje was not Jan's wife. No doubt in my mind she is though...