Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 - 10/04/08

[bastibro]

Videosnip on witnesses and the investigatiion . .

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ZYN4Snl5Y

[Nut44x4]

That is from 2005, no?

[texasmom]

That is from 2005, no?

Yes it is.

[bastibro]

That is from 2005, no?

Yes Nut, it is.
Jossy was here mentioning this gardener.

Gardener: When I was walking by the RacquetClub at about 230-300am, there was a car in the driveway, and as I passed, 3-4 males all hid/ducked so as to hide their faces...
ALE: Our records show you are an illegal resident of Aruba. You are going to be arrested and deported. We are on the way to lock you up and hand you over to customs agents.

Jogger: While I was out for my after hours jog, I spotted some pretty unusual stuff. Can I come to the station to discuss it further with you? It might have something to do with that missing American girl on the television.
ALE: No, not right now, we are busy. We will call you back later if we need you.. Quit jogging so late at night.

Woman(near RacquetClub): I saw several boys/men near the RacquetClub, going in and out near the time that girl went missing. They looked like they were searching for something.. They were in a silver car with these unusual tail light covers, like the ones I saw on TV.
ALE: Maam, thanks for the call. But, if you want you and your family to remain safe, we suggest you to hang up the phone immediately and go on about your business.

Another witness: I can not hold this in any longer. It has been eating away at my conscience. I helped bury a blonde American girl with a tarp and white Pickup in a shallow grave with two other people. One of the guys worked at the Marriott.
ALE: You are crazy in the head. We are sending an ambulance to your house right now. You clearly belong locked up in a mental hospital..

MountainBrook student: I am a student that was with Natalee on our senior trip to Aruba. On the last night we were in Aruba, we saw Joran Van der Sloot and his dad McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. It seems very suspicious to me. Could you please check into it.
ALE: You probably had a case of mistaken identity since you were probably under the effects of alcohol. Joran was home on his computer studying for his exams and his dad was home asleep. Thanks for the call, though.

Kalpoe neighbor: The other night, I saw my neighbors, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, thoroughly washing out their vehicle, at a location beside their home, which was unusual.
ALE: We already spoke to them about it. They had ants all over their floorboards and, additionally, someone left a chocolate candy bar in their back seat and it melted. You know Deepak...very meticulous with his car...He was up all not using various cleaning solutions to get rid off those pesky ants and melted chocolate bar.

Dump witness: I saw a white pickup truck at the dump the other day. There were several men, whom I think I recognized on TV. One guy was giving orders and the others were carrying something that looked like a dead body near a kiddie pool. Can I at least give you the license plate number of the vehicle for you to check out.
ALE: I do not have paper handy...Hold on...I can write it on this Frosted Flakes box..

Pond witness: I woke up in the middle of the night and saw a tall young man. He walked kind of strange, i saw he was missing a shoe. He was out of breath from something and was covered in mud from his feet to his chest. Then I saw a red jeep come by and pick him up. The jeep drove very, very slowly in the area, almost like they had dropped something by mistake. It seemed very suspicious to me..
ALE: It was probably just some teenagers up all night partying. We recommend that you start taking sleeping pills before you go to bed so you get a good night sleep in the future...

[Nut44x4]

déjà vu
I remember it

[pinkbanana]

Hello,   

Hope ALL is well with My Monkey Family...  ::

I STILL STAND WITH THE GIRL!!

pbxo

 

Good to see you PB!

  Hi, texasmom

pbxo

[klaasend]

http://canadianpress.google.com:80/article/ALeqM5hoESZAmALIIdBW-lM16TPOw8HzWA

Dutch documentary Emmy winner snubbed at home for show on missing teen
1 hour ago

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands — The Dutchman who won an Emmy for his television documentary about the disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway has been snubbed by the Netherlands' annual television awards.

Peter de Vries wasn't among the nominees for the "Golden Ring" awards for his Feb. 3, 2008, program, which was among the most highly viewed broadcasts in the history of Dutch television, with an estimated seven million viewers in a nation of 16 million.

It was based on hidden-camera interviews with Joran van der Sloot, the Dutch youth last seen with Holloway before her disappearance in Aruba on May 30, 2005.

The program won the 2008 International Emmy for Current Affairs but was ignored by the Dutch awards in favour of Desperate Housewives clone "Gooische Vrouwen," the variety show "Nice! De Leeuw Again" and a talent-hunt called "Looking for Evita." The nominees were announced Thursday, and a winner will be chosen Oct. 24.

"It doesn't keep me awake at night," De Vries told Dutch Weblog GeenStijl in a video interview. "I have an Emmy at home, it's standing on my fireplace, gleaming, and that's better than any other prize you could win in this industry."

Holloway, an 18-year-old from Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen leaving a bar in the Aruban capital Oranjestad with Van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers on the final night of a high school graduation trip to the island. Extensive searches have found no trace of her.

[sharon]

two Surinamese brothers ??

The geniuses don't have names anymore??


Holloway, an 18-year-old from Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen leaving a bar in the Aruban capital Oranjestad with Van der Sloot and DEEPAK AND SATISH KALPOE


AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT....IT DOESJustice for Natalee Holloway

[johan555]

Judge hits Reporter

[johan555]

can someone translate this ?

[Nut44x4]

johan555 ... that is about the tourist, Joyce Buckley that was missing in December>>>>

Rough Translation of 24ora article

    Young tourist missing in Aruba
    Sunday, 23 December 2007

    Sunday morning a mother alarmed authorities to tell them her daughter is missing. Apparently the girl went out to a bar and never returned.

    The girl and her family was staying according to information at the Holiday Inn. The mother together with the police went looking at various night clubs for the young woman.

    Information they were able to obtain was that the young girl was last seen leaving in a car with two man near Karma lounge.

    Until this afternoon the police spokesperson cannot say if they succeeded in finding the girl or not.

    On the picture the mother together with the police can be seen leaving the Havana Beach Club.

UPDATE II: It seems the spirit of Natalee Holloway is “following” us

23 year old American student Joyce Buckley is missing in Aruba

Aruba_awemainta

    It seems the spirit of Natalee Holloway is “following” us.

    Sunday morning the mother of an American student went to the Police station Noord to report her daughter missing.  Joyce Buckeley went on a Banana Bus trip and when the trip had ended the young woman 23 years old did not arrive back at her hotel.

    In the morning hours a big alarm was given to the police authorities, one of the head officers of police, Dolfi Richardson, has asked for a formal “investigation” contrary to the case of Natalee Holloway, and also when another person had disappeared, normally the police waits 48 hours before the big alarm, before a person is officially missing.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2474.0

[johan555]

Official corruption in the judiciary top 10
October 2, 2008, 15:00 (GMT -04:00)
   
ORANGE CITY - In the list of most common crimes the Public Prosecutor (OM) last year of bribing an official in office on the sixth place. Justice calls this remarkable because in 2006 this crime is not in the top-ten list appeared. At number 1 is also, like previous years, theft.

This is evidenced by the annual report of the PPS in 2007. The cause of the increase in official corruption cases, according to justice the large number of defendants in two cases including the Fondo Desaroyo San Nicolas Nobo. This 24 persons were initially questioned as suspect of which 17 came before the court. Another corruption case in which the driving case involving three officials, eleven intermediaries and 60 buyers of fake driving licenses were arrested. The OM lodged an appeal against the penalties imposed by the judge in First Instance imposed, but the appeal yielded no higher penalties. "The OM is not happy with this not feel light penalties for a voortwoekerend evil, corruption," said the report.

In the foreword notes Nico Jörg, when acting Attorney-General, moreover, that large-scale surveys such as the Fondo case the forces of a small prosecutor in Aruba as above. "There remains much work are different. However, it would be a wrong idea for it to conclude that the larger the size of a fraud, the more chance there is that the PPS they will not want or can begin. "

He calls for attracting a fraud or other specialist from another country with a temporary appointment as Prosecutor. In the same manner as for the Fondo case a judge for special treatment from the Netherlands was met.

More Crime
The annual report also shows that the PPS suspects registered last year in 8571, ten percent more than the year before. The majority has been arrested for violations (6953). The total number of registered crimes rose from 1202 to 1618. That is more than 34 percent more than in 2006. Leader is theft (under aggravating circumstances) of which 344 persons were suspected. Most thefts and burglaries are still under justice committed by drug addicts for their addiction to pay for it.

The number of drug suspects has also increased. In 2007, the number of hard drug suspects 230 and the number of soft drug suspects 78; in 2006 these numbers were respectively 162 and 47. ¬ drug offenses are drug trafficking through the air and seaport, organized drug trafficking, local drug sale and possession of drugs. The number caught drugskoeriers was 25.

Driving without a license rose from fifth place in 2006 to second place last year with 247 suspects. The OM explains this by the increase in traffic that more people are caught. Indeed, in 2006 the number of registered suspects' only '89. It is the crime of driving under the influence of alcohol dropped to the third to fourth place in the top ten, according to the OM the result of regular alcohol checks.

[SS]

Aruba is too quiet right now.  It's making me crazy!

[Lala'sMom]

Aruba is too quiet right now.  It's making me crazy!

They are hoping we have all left....LOL 

[MumInOhio]

Aruba is too quiet right now.  It's making me crazy!

They are hoping we have all left....LOL 

Never...Not going to happen!

Just waiting patiently for 3, 4 and 5...and the 8th!

[MumInOhio]

Here SS...

Carlos Severino Tromp Reply »
|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#7 Saturday Sep 27
The Hague, 27th of September 2008

Dear readers of Shango,

I, Carlos Severino Tromp, wish to communicate to you that in the middle of October coming, maybe for a week I will appear in a television program in Spain and talk by satellite to the Dutch Queen on the subject of human rights and general corruption in Aruba, in the public prosecuting agency there, and how Nathalee Holloway did not receive justice by the Aruba police system. The program will also be translated in English.

With kindest personal regards,

Carlos Severino Tromp

www.koninginnlwatismensenrechten.com
www.arubainjustice.com
www.onrecht.com

You Tube: carlos13tromp & tromp13carlos

If you still want to know more:
Google: Carlos Severino Tromp 

[MumInOhio]

Here is says to start to look Oct. 10th...

Monday Sep 29
QUEEN BEATRIX OF THE KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS WHY DO YOU GLOSE YOUR EYES FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS???

The Hague, 29th of September 2008

Hello to everyone!, NAKED TRUTH THE PURE TRUTH

Because Justice of the Dutch kingdom cannot function well and the Public Prosecuting Agency of Aruba Havenstraat #2 O'stad together with the Communal Court of Aruba/Netherlands Antilles are corrupt and falsify documents, comet forgery and violate human rights under the auspices of the high court of Dutch Kingdom AND in the name of the Queen: Beatrix, the head of state AND she (BEATRIX) close her eyes for corruption and crimes against human rights!

Carlos Severino Tromp, wish to communicate to you that in the middle of October coming, maybe for a week I will appear in a television program News (Noticia Spaña and Spaña Directo) in SPAIN and talk by satellite to the Dutch Queen on the subject of violation of human rights and general corruption in Aruba, in the public prosecuting agency there, and how Nathalee Holloway did not receive justice by the Aruba police system. The program will also be translated in English. Start to take a look at 10 October 2008
QUEEN BEATRIX WHO IS ADOLF HITLER YOU FAMELY OR???

QUEEN BEATIX WHERE ARE WE COING WITH CORRUPTIONS AND CORRUPTIONS AND MORE CORRUPTIONS ???
STOP CRIMES AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP!!!
HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP

With kindest personal regards:

www.koninginnlwatismensenrechten.com
www.arubainjustice.com
www.onrecht.com
If you still want to know more: Google: Carlos Severino Tromp
News Spaña News News Spaña News News Spaña News News News Spaña News News Spaña News

[Dayhiker]

Judge hits Reporter

Worse yet, Johan, they send their dregs, the scummy judges they don't want, to Aruba.

[Dayhiker]

Official corruption in the judiciary top 10
October 2, 2008, 15:00 (GMT -04:00)
   
ORANGE CITY - In the list of most common crimes the Public Prosecutor (OM) last year of bribing an official in office on the sixth place. Justice calls this remarkable because in 2006 this crime is not in the top-ten list appeared. At number 1 is also, like previous years, theft.

This is evidenced by the annual report of the PPS in 2007. The cause of the increase in official corruption cases, according to justice the large number of defendants in two cases including the Fondo Desaroyo San Nicolas Nobo. This 24 persons were initially questioned as suspect of which 17 came before the court. Another corruption case in which the driving case involving three officials, eleven intermediaries and 60 buyers of fake driving licenses were arrested. The OM lodged an appeal against the penalties imposed by the judge in First Instance imposed, but the appeal yielded no higher penalties. "The OM is not happy with this not feel light penalties for a voortwoekerend evil, corruption," said the report.

In the foreword notes Nico Jörg, when acting Attorney-General, moreover, that large-scale surveys such as the Fondo case the forces of a small prosecutor in Aruba as above. "There remains much work are different. However, it would be a wrong idea for it to conclude that the larger the size of a fraud, the more chance there is that the PPS they will not want or can begin. "

He calls for attracting a fraud or other specialist from another country with a temporary appointment as Prosecutor. In the same manner as for the Fondo case a judge for special treatment from the Netherlands was met.

More Crime
The annual report also shows that the PPS suspects registered last year in 8571, ten percent more than the year before. The majority has been arrested for violations (6953). The total number of registered crimes rose from 1202 to 1618. That is more than 34 percent more than in 2006. Leader is theft (under aggravating circumstances) of which 344 persons were suspected. Most thefts and burglaries are still under justice committed by drug addicts for their addiction to pay for it.

The number of drug suspects has also increased. In 2007, the number of hard drug suspects 230 and the number of soft drug suspects 78; in 2006 these numbers were respectively 162 and 47. ¬ drug offenses are drug trafficking through the air and seaport, organized drug trafficking, local drug sale and possession of drugs. The number caught drugskoeriers was 25.

Driving without a license rose from fifth place in 2006 to second place last year with 247 suspects. The OM explains this by the increase in traffic that more people are caught. Indeed, in 2006 the number of registered suspects' only '89. It is the crime of driving under the influence of alcohol dropped to the third to fourth place in the top ten, according to the OM the result of regular alcohol checks.

Nice that they're finally coming to the realization that the government of Aruba is corrupt. Yawn. Where were they three and a half years ago when we all figured it out?

[Dayhiker]

Aruba is too quiet right now.  It's making me crazy!

They are hoping we have all left....LOL 

Never...Not going to happen!

Just waiting patiently for 3, 4 and 5...and the 8th!

Or will we end of filing this with the "hold your breath for the next 24 hours", "the three suspects will be brought end before the end of the year," and "karin jannsen plans to leave with fireworks" bullshit that Aruba is so famous for?

Keeping my fingers crossed and saying my prayers, Mum!