Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 - 10/04/08

[johan555]

Bonaire : digging at a garbage dump right now

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3445.new#new

[bastibro]

                                                                                                                Natalee
                                                                                                                Wherever you are
                                                                                                                we will never give up!!

[johan555]

[Nut44x4]

For all who are missing...living and dead.

[Nut44x4]

FYI

[Nut44x4]

www.scaredmonkeysradio.com

[Nut44x4]

DANA ON NOW!

[Nut44x4]

  LoRain

[LoRain]

Awe how sweet...I don't know how to do those fancy smileys BUT....HI right back atcha....I sure needed that tonight!!!...thanks... 

[Nut44x4]

LoRain, when you hit reply to make a post....just above the box it says [more]
That means more smileys. Click that and a new window will pop up. Click the one you want and it appears in your message box.

[LoRain]

 

Thanks Nut....not feeling so swift tonight....trying to understand people...and that is a big thing to try and tackle...I want to know what happened to Natalee...I want to know who is the guilty one...I want to know why...I want to see justice come to life....I want to see Natalee home...I want answers for the family....I want to understand why someone would say that I don't want these things....I want to know why someone would be so cruel to say I am trying to block justice from coming to life...(I want to know how I could possibly be that important)....I want Natalee to come home where she belongs...I really don't ask for much do I?...or maybe I do....

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_47337.php

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_47331.php

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_47302.php

Google Translation:


Corrupt 'official limited liability
September 27, 2008, 14:09 (GMT -04:00)

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The country is still engaged in a civil case against former officers and directors, as against the former project coordinator Roy Maduro (see photo) to the misappropriated money in the scandal of Fondo Desaroyo Nobo San Nicolas back.

ORANGE CITY - In an interim ruling against the former project coordinator Roy Maduro of the Planning Bureau Fondo Desaroyo Nobo San Nicolas (FDNS), the civil court declared that there is ground to suspect corruption officials to hold only limited liability for the damage done.

This could mean that the government itself largely opdraait for damages, which the current government says it into the tens of millions florin runs. In the ruling last Wednesday between the judge says that there is every ground rules for liability for employees, as enshrined in the Civil Code, also apply to officials who are suspected in the FDNS case. In the case against Maduro is about "improper job performance by Maduro an official of the Country." The question now is whether Maduro, regardless of not fulfilling their obligations in the employment contract he agreed with the Land, also is guilty the commission of a tort as an employee, said the judge. That means that the country must demonstrate whether there is "misconduct that more than a careless job performance."

The country has since 2005 several civil cases against politicians, former directors and officers in the corruption scandal. This has led to several convictions, including against ex-Minister of Finance Tico Croes. Damage amounts are not specified by the Land, because this was chosen in a separate procedure is called damage control. In between the ruling last Wednesday, the court now that the country now has more than enough time has been given a sum to be determined. He demanded that the Land in any direct condemnation of an amount called Maduro.

Furthermore, the court also that both parties the verdict of the trial study. This is to assess whether the criminal offenses in March of this year proved declared, in line with what the Land Maduro accused. These include accepting bribes, accepting bogus bids and approve payments for projects that were never implemented.
Maduro was given ten months in March imposed cell that in nine months unconditional imprisonment and 240 hours of service was converted. The criminal court found him guilty of forgery and accepting bribes written.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_47301.php

Google translation:

[MumInOhio]

Hi, I'm new here. I just wanted to say I think this whole story is so very sad. Something NEEDS to give here. Natalee needs a proper burial and her family needs closure and arrests NEED to be made.I was reading Natalee's friends statement and she made two of them, WHY? would she lie? This totally blows my mind. Some friend she is. If she knows something? TELL, DAMN IT!!!....Sorry, I'm just so frustrated.. God bless you Natalee wherever you are and God bless the family...

I know this is gruesome but this whole case turns your stomach so I am going to put this out there (I think it has been before) Natalee may be in two different places.  Land and Sea. 

Everything is so cryptic that as soon as I think I have something figured out, I start thinking in a different direction.  Anyone else feel that way?

 

Who's to say that Natalee wasn't placed in the crypt and then removed and put out to sea weeks, days, months later?

I think that maybe on the 6th of June, Jalitza Wever was put in the trap with the
shoe and Natalee was put in her crypt.

That's possible too!

Hi Brandy and Welcome...Which friend and which statement are you referring to, please?

I think 4 or 5 of the MB student's were called in for another statement. Recall Dompig had questions for them as well...Yeh...Like what did you tell the FBI...LOL


I am speaking of Elizabeth Cain's statement that she gave TWICE, and switched up her story. As for " What did you tell the FBI?) hahaha VERY cute n funny BUT most likely VERY true. you'll find the statements she gave here.. Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #770 9/20/08 through  (Read 8130 times) 

Brandy are you talking about the Cain's FBI statements?  In one she says she saw Natalee talking to a local man for about 30 minutes and in the other she says she only saw Natalee with members of her senior class?

Thanks in Advance...


http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/FBI_forms/cain.htm

[MumInOhio]

O/T....for Sharon...


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3568.msg476501#new

[NM]

@MumInOhio

Paulus was away for two years [Arnhem & Curacao]. During this period Joran [16 at the time] started playing poker, dating local girls and copying his friends to pick up tourist girls.
Jan van der Straten was a close friend of Anita and Paulus.
Do you or someone else know about a casino visiting history of van der Straten ?
It wouldn't surprise me.
Fact is that he and Paulus exchanged a lot of phone calls during the first ten days after Natalee vanished.
It was David Dick [PAR] who offered Jan a new job at Bonaire in July 2005.
Is Eef Twillert - van der Straten Jan's daughter ?
How many kids did Jan's wife deliver to the world ?
And where did they live on Aruba when he was chief of the police ?

It was Joran who made the puzzle.

Good to see you J45.

IIRC, around June-Aug 2005 a SM posted named aurubagirl posted that jan and family lived near her and that his kids were all older than jurin. 

[sharon]

O/T....for Sharon...


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3568.msg476501#new

Thanks Mum 

(I always come to check Natalee's thread first)

[Dayhiker]

Let's review our month of surprises. In September we had two surprises. One was Jossy's witness that saw Joran at the pond and Paulus picking him up. This was the witness Hans Mos had previously tried to intimidate. The second was Tim Millers's trip to Aruba, where he was NOT allowed to search the pond by Hans Mos and the Aruban government.

That's two independent people trying to solve the case, yet nothing from the Arubans and the Dutch. Isn't that the same way it's always been? Next up is probably Peter deVries, yet another independent. Will the Dutch and Arubans ever DO ANYTHING on their own?