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« on: September 13, 2006, 01:08:51 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2006, 01:10:18 AM »

Something happened to the other thread, the last page must have some kind of corrupt code in it.  We'll have to wait for Tom to fix it tomorrow morning.  

I've created this thead for the late nite posters Wink
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2006, 01:20:26 AM »

Thanks Klaas

I just remember the board would always go down when you-know-who was the topic.

So i figured you had posted the L_____O process verbaal and kabloooey!

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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2006, 01:23:18 AM »

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Thanks Klaas

I just remember the board would always go down when you-know-who was the topic.

So i figured you had posted the L_____O process verbaal and kabloooey!

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Not sure why it happens, but some times a post get corrupted and it hangs the thread.  You can actually read all the way up to page 8 but you can't post in that thread so I locked in and created this one.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2006, 01:35:35 AM »

Good job geeting this alternate forum up. Smile
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2006, 01:39:43 AM »

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So who is the connection between Steve Croes and Geoffrey von Cromfroit?  You didn't ever tell us the answer to your question.

I would like to know what the connection is as well as I don't want to just guess who it is.  

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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2006, 01:51:33 AM »

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Good job geeting this alternate forum up. Smile

Thanks Spock - had do something for you later nighters, lol  Laughing
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2006, 01:53:23 AM »

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So who is the connection between Steve Croes and Geoffrey von Cromfroit?  You didn't ever tell us the answer to your question. I would like to know what the connection is as well as I don't want to just guess who it is.  


Good question Anna. What I was trying to say is that Steve Croes and Geoffrey Cromvoirt are more closely tied to Deepak Kalpoe than to Joran. I suspect this Steve Croes that Deepak says was at Carlos and Charlies that night, may have been one of the two "dogs" Joran said Deepak brought to the beach. He may be involved, it is unlikely he gave the suspects an alibi "out of the blue".  Also, there are pictures of Steve and Geoffrey together, so I speculate the second "dog" may have been Geoffrey. It could, of couse have been someone else. I think the "key" here is that Deepak did not have to be at work until late Monday, Satish and Croes either missed work or school the next day, and Geoffrey is tied closely to Croes. I suspect a "second group" went back to the beach, and I recall Dompig shared this idea with us last Fall.
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2006, 01:54:19 AM »

GOODNIGHT ALL!
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2006, 01:56:01 AM »

I don't think we should lose sight that Steve was at C&C that night, and that he later provided a "false alibi". He did that for a reason and placing him at C&C gives him the opportunity for involvement.
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2006, 01:57:13 AM »

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Nite Klass and thanks for getting us back up and running!
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2006, 02:02:48 AM »

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Nite Klass and thanks for getting us back up and running!


Spock,  I have seen those pictures of Croes & GVC together, with girls, no less, but there is always Jerry.  Is Jerry one of the dogs?  GVC does have a boat.  SC knows how to operate a boat.  Did they take Natalee out on a boat?  Was she alive when they took her out?
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2006, 02:17:37 AM »

FYI - now the front page of SM is down.  I've let Red and Tom know but it may be down all night.

Goodnight again!
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2006, 02:37:46 AM »

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Nite Klass and thanks for getting us back up and running!


Spock,  I have seen those pictures of Croes & GVC together, with girls, no less, but there is always Jerry.  Is Jerry one of the dogs?  GVC does have a boat.  SC knows how to operate a boat.  Did they take Natalee out on a boat?  Was she alive when they took her out?


I don't know what happened. I will say Steve Croes may be the key to unraveling this mystery and if he was at C&C that gives me even more reason to suspect his involvement. Does anyone remember the early reports that Steve told his grandmother he had witnessed an argument between three boys and a girl on the beach?
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2006, 03:59:32 AM »

Hey Spock, I remember reading  that about SC hearing people arguing on the beach. It was on Majorwager.

http://www.majorwager.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=22&threadid=133972&STARTPAGE=10&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2006, 04:00:37 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2006, 04:10:26 AM »

Here is the portion I believe you are looking for

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Alec, as you can see now, I was telling truth about contact in Aruba. My contact had contacted Croes grandma (who he lives with), and I knew the story that Croes had told his grandma. If you are following the news, this story is same reason he is going free tomorrow....

Here's the story he told his grandma: He was on boat cleaning it, he heard arguing on beach, he then decided to go and check it out. He went out and check and recgonized Deepak and then decided it was nothing, so he went back in boat. He told that the 4 people arguing were the brothers, Joran, and a girl. He went to cops with this info, next day, cops arrest him.

Back on the day I posted this, this was the story I knew cuz it was from his grandma. Today upon his release, we learn that he made up a story to back up his friend story and went to cops with it, then cops find out it not a truthful acct since the perps had changed their story.

But as you see now Alec, I do have sources in Aruba, and that they very much connected to key players in this story
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2006, 06:23:47 AM »

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Alec, as you can see now, I was telling truth about contact in Aruba. My contact had contacted Croes grandma (who he lives with), and I knew the story that Croes had told his grandma. If you are following the news, this story is same reason he is going free tomorrow....

Here's the story he told his grandma: He was on boat cleaning it, he heard arguing on beach, he then decided to go and check it out. He went out and check and recgonized Deepak and then decided it was nothing, so he went back in boat. He told that the 4 people arguing were the brothers, Joran, and a girl. He went to cops with this info, next day, cops arrest him.

Back on the day I posted this, this was the story I knew cuz it was from his grandma. Today upon his release, we learn that he made up a story to back up his friend story and went to cops with it, then cops find out it not a truthful acct since the perps had changed their story.

But as you see now Alec, I do have sources in Aruba, and that they very much connected to key players in this story


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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 08:40:29 AM »

Good morning.  It's a rainy day in GA.
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2006, 08:43:30 AM »

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