Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #27

[abbey09]

This woke me up last night........ Does anyone think LE has Caylee's body???

I do think this sometimes...but the only way at this time they would have a body is if it were in a closed container...and even then it would not be much...*if* LE has anything it would be small bones/fragments that would need extensive forensic testing for any info...JMOO...Des

Abbey and Des - I am with both of you.  I suspect that they found something the afternoon that Tim called off the search and left for Aruba.  There were a few posters here who mentioned that something had been found, cadaver dogs had been called in, and the area was taped off, but they were unable to comment.  If they do have something, I think that LE is being very, very careful to complete all levels of testing before they reveal any information.  This is a high profile case with International coverage and they can't make a mistake.  It also might be a way to put more pressure on the Anthonys while waiting for DNA results and forensic examinations to determine an exact cause of death.  I would like to see LE do a complete forensic examination of any remains that will give them a solid and irrefutable case.  If it would mean Murder #1 for Casey Anthony, then I am willing to wait it out.  Why else would the searches be called off?  Searchers would be upset to learn that they had continued to spend hours searching while LE was in possession of the body.  Just my opinion.

Ok, then everything we know points to them having her body

1. Something is found and TES calls off search
2. Area is taped off
3. The other day TES spokesperson said wait for shocking news
4. Body farm went to Orlando
5. Person at BF said he wasn't involved in the bones recovery
6. LE goes to Ca. to take LP statement that Casey said she was in Blanchard Park
7. Cin and Geo suddenly get defense attorney

Am i missing anything?????

[goodnmad]

This woke me up last night........ Does anyone think LE has Caylee's body???

I do think this sometimes...but the only way at this time they would have a body is if it were in a closed container...and even then it would not be much...*if* LE has anything it would be small bones/fragments that would need extensive forensic testing for any info...JMOO...Des

Abbey and Des - I am with both of you.  I suspect that they found something the afternoon that Tim called off the search and left for Aruba.  There were a few posters here who mentioned that something had been found, cadaver dogs had been called in, and the area was taped off, but they were unable to comment.  If they do have something, I think that LE is being very, very careful to complete all levels of testing before they reveal any information.  This is a high profile case with International coverage and they can't make a mistake.  It also might be a way to put more pressure on the Anthonys while waiting for DNA results and forensic examinations to determine an exact cause of death.  I would like to see LE do a complete forensic examination of any remains that will give them a solid and irrefutable case.  If it would mean Murder #1 for Casey Anthony, then I am willing to wait it out.  Why else would the searches be called off?  Searchers would be upset to learn that they had continued to spend hours searching while LE was in possession of the body.  Just my opinion.

Ok, then everything we know points to them having her body

1. Something is found and TES calls off search
2. Area is taped off
3. The other day TES spokesperson said wait for shocking news
4. Body farm went to Orlando
5. Person at BF said he wasn't involved in the bones recovery
6. LE goes to Ca. to take LP statement that Casey said she was in Blanchard Park
7. Cin and Geo suddenly get defense attorney

Am i missing anything?????

Rob said a couple of thread back something to the effect of -- 4 sets of human bones/partial sets were found during searches. i think more than one missing person has been found. Rob, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[jjayinthemorning]

I believe one of the reasons LE came to Calif to speak with Padilla was to obtain the PHONE RECORDS that Lee had given Padilla.

Lee cooperated with Padilla?

According to Padilla, in the very beginning with Padilla first bailed Casey out, Lee was being cooperative. That is when Lee gave the phone records to Padilla. Soon after, Lee was no longer cooperative.

Could these phone records be the missing calls Casey made to Zanny?
Because LE suddenly went on a chase yesterday which would make it seem like they will round up another witness for the prosecution. And Zanny the drug dealer, not nanny, will testify with immunity.

Casey hung at places that are obvious drug deal related. Parks, Apartments, Tattoo parlours, and clubs. She left her car at a check cashing place... possibly because she was familiar with it but again, a drug haven.
Question is... what kind of drugs. It wasn't depressants like xanax. I suspect more like E.

[Tamikosmom]

NANCY GRACE - SEPTEMBER 20TH
LEONARD PADILLA - ROBERT DICK

I have segregated Leonard Padilla and Robert Dicks words from the NANCY GRACE transcript of September 20th.  These two as well as the female guard were witnesses to a lot of what was said and done within the Anthony's residence during Casey's first release ... the first release when Padilla's nephew posted a $50,000 bond.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
More Formal Charges Against Casey Anthony
Aired September 19, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: You know, Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter out of Sacramento -- Leonard, why is that? You know them better than the rest of us.

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Well, I think they`re focused on their immediate situation with Casey, their immediate situation with the protesters outside the house. And I don`t think they give much thought to the rest of the world unless it`s something that agrees with them.

GRACE: Well, I have to say...

PADILLA: They`re very, very focused inwardly.

GRACE: ... as long as they shelter Casey Anthony in that home, their hands are full, all right, Leonard Padilla, with the protesters and the angry group, some would call it a mob, outside the home. The police are called there on a daily basis. And the reality is, they don`t understand why people are so angry. We`re angry because a little girl`s life could be hanging in the balance, or her body is decomposing right now out in a landfill or a swamp somewhere.

PADILLA: Absolutely correct. If they`d have gone along with a situation where they`d have never had Casey taken to that house, if she`d have been removed to a safe house, they wouldn`t have the problems out there.

GRACE: Leonard Padilla, do you think that the brother, Lee, is changing his story? I noticed at the beginning, he was saying he had never heard of nanny Zenaida Gonzalez, but now he`s saying he`s known about her for about a year.[/color]

PADILLA: Well, he`s obviously changed his story, and Rob Dick can tell you how many times he`s changed his story since we first met him.

GRACE: Oh, good thought. What about it, Robert Dick?

ROBERT DICK, PROVIDED SECURITY FOR CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, he`s obviously changed. I mean, from the point of when he was there, you know, anything he could do to help us and telling us things, and down to towards the end there, where he was just flat lying. I mean, he was caught lying to our face.

GRACE: About what?

DICK: Well, for one thing, the attitude that Casey had about this whole thing. I mean, when the air samples came out, I know for a fact from a person that I have inside how she reacted when that came across the news.

GRACE: How did she react?

DICK: It didn`t bother her at all. You know, her comment was that a lot of people have had access to the trunk.

GRACE: You`re kidding?

DICK: And then in talking to Lee, Lee sits there and tells me, sitting across from me, how bad she acted, how upset she was. They almost had to call 911 because of her blood pressure, which is just complete BS.

<snipped>

GRACE: It`s awfully early in the morning to run out of gas. Wasn`t her car spotted there at 7:00 AM, Leonard Padilla?

PADILLA: Correct. It was there at 7:00 AM. And to add something to that, there was a situation where somebody here mentioned about Mark Hawkins saying that there was another...

GRACE: The Marine?

PADILLA: ... military guy or something? Well, there`s a Brandon Snow (ph) that was a friend of hers that other people have alleged could be the father that went up to North Carolina recently. I think he`s in the Army.

But getting back to the car running out of gas, it was there out of gas at 7:00 AM. She`s on the phone to the Marine 11:00, 11:30 the night before. Last calls she made the night before were to the Marine.

<snipped>

GRACE: Tonight with us, bounty hunter from California, Leonard Padilla. Your theory is there is an accomplice. What`s your theory and why?

PADILLA: Well, the situation is that she ran out of gas at the check cashing store on the 26th.

GRACE: Right.

PADILLA: And there was a tremendous amount of communication on her phone on the evening of the 26th and also on the 27th, when she called her boyfriend to come pick her up, that the car had run out of gas. And it goes on into the 28th, then it stops. So there had to be somebody giving her a hand at that time.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/19/ng.01.html

[pink angel]

This woke me up last night........ Does anyone think LE has Caylee's body???

I do think this sometimes...but the only way at this time they would have a body is if it were in a closed container...and even then it would not be much...*if* LE has anything it would be small bones/fragments that would need extensive forensic testing for any info...JMOO...Des

Abbey and Des - I am with both of you.  I suspect that they found something the afternoon that Tim called off the search and left for Aruba.  There were a few posters here who mentioned that something had been found, cadaver dogs had been called in, and the area was taped off, but they were unable to comment.  If they do have something, I think that LE is being very, very careful to complete all levels of testing before they reveal any information.  This is a high profile case with International coverage and they can't make a mistake.  It also might be a way to put more pressure on the Anthonys while waiting for DNA results and forensic examinations to determine an exact cause of death.  I would like to see LE do a complete forensic examination of any remains that will give them a solid and irrefutable case.  If it would mean Murder #1 for Casey Anthony, then I am willing to wait it out.  Why else would the searches be called off?  Searchers would be upset to learn that they had continued to spend hours searching while LE was in possession of the body.  Just my opinion.

Another note. LP hasn't mentioned the 50,000 reward for a "body" since TES packed it up.

[jjayinthemorning]

Rob said a couple of thread back something to the effect of -- 4 sets of human bones/partial sets were found during searches. i think more than one missing person has been found. Rob, please correct me if I'm wrong.

So either there is an Orlando serial killer unrelated to this case
or Caylee was kidnapped and discarded with others by a crazy nanny ring
or Casey is a serial killer or involved with one.
or this is a cover up to throw police off Casey's track, means she had an accomplice.

[abbey09]

NANCY GRACE - SEPTEMBER 20TH
LEONARD PADILLA - ROBERT DICK

I have segregated Leonard Padilla and Robert Dicks words from the NANCY GRACE transcript of September 20th.  These two as well as the female guard were witnesses to a lot of what was said and done within the Anthony's residence during Casey's first release ... the first release when Padilla's nephew posted a $50,000 bond.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
More Formal Charges Against Casey Anthony
Aired September 19, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: You know, Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter out of Sacramento -- Leonard, why is that? You know them better than the rest of us.

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Well, I think they`re focused on their immediate situation with Casey, their immediate situation with the protesters outside the house. And I don`t think they give much thought to the rest of the world unless it`s something that agrees with them.

GRACE: Well, I have to say...

PADILLA: They`re very, very focused inwardly.

GRACE: ... as long as they shelter Casey Anthony in that home, their hands are full, all right, Leonard Padilla, with the protesters and the angry group, some would call it a mob, outside the home. The police are called there on a daily basis. And the reality is, they don`t understand why people are so angry. We`re angry because a little girl`s life could be hanging in the balance, or her body is decomposing right now out in a landfill or a swamp somewhere.

PADILLA: Absolutely correct. If they`d have gone along with a situation where they`d have never had Casey taken to that house, if she`d have been removed to a safe house, they wouldn`t have the problems out there.

GRACE: Leonard Padilla, do you think that the brother, Lee, is changing his story? I noticed at the beginning, he was saying he had never heard of nanny Zenaida Gonzalez, but now he`s saying he`s known about her for about a year.[/color]

PADILLA: Well, he`s obviously changed his story, and Rob Dick can tell you how many times he`s changed his story since we first met him.

GRACE: Oh, good thought. What about it, Robert Dick?

ROBERT DICK, PROVIDED SECURITY FOR CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, he`s obviously changed. I mean, from the point of when he was there, you know, anything he could do to help us and telling us things, and down to towards the end there, where he was just flat lying. I mean, he was caught lying to our face.

GRACE: About what?

DICK: Well, for one thing, the attitude that Casey had about this whole thing. I mean, when the air samples came out, I know for a fact from a person that I have inside how she reacted when that came across the news.

GRACE: How did she react?

DICK: It didn`t bother her at all. You know, her comment was that a lot of people have had access to the trunk.

GRACE: You`re kidding?

DICK: And then in talking to Lee, Lee sits there and tells me, sitting across from me, how bad she acted, how upset she was. They almost had to call 911 because of her blood pressure, which is just complete BS.

<snipped>

GRACE: It`s awfully early in the morning to run out of gas. Wasn`t her car spotted there at 7:00 AM, Leonard Padilla?

PADILLA: Correct. It was there at 7:00 AM. And to add something to that, there was a situation where somebody here mentioned about Mark Hawkins saying that there was another...

GRACE: The Marine?

PADILLA: ... military guy or something? Well, there`s a Brandon Snow (ph) that was a friend of hers that other people have alleged could be the father that went up to North Carolina recently. I think he`s in the Army.

But getting back to the car running out of gas, it was there out of gas at 7:00 AM. She`s on the phone to the Marine 11:00, 11:30 the night before. Last calls she made the night before were to the Marine.

<snipped>

GRACE: Tonight with us, bounty hunter from California, Leonard Padilla. Your theory is there is an accomplice. What`s your theory and why?

PADILLA: Well, the situation is that she ran out of gas at the check cashing store on the 26th.

GRACE: Right.

PADILLA: And there was a tremendous amount of communication on her phone on the evening of the 26th and also on the 27th, when she called her boyfriend to come pick her up, that the car had run out of gas. And it goes on into the 28th, then it stops. So there had to be somebody giving her a hand at that time.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/19/ng.01.html

Hey LEE, Cin and GEO:  Can you say Accessory after the fact ??? !!!!!

[goodnmad]

could the marine in Cali be the daddy and that was what she was going to tell him? it was so important she wanted to tell him in person. or maybe she was going to lie to him about being Caylee's daddy and use him as her new meal ticket since Cindy wasn't having it anymore. maybe his response wasn't what she wanted and this on top of the fight with her parents pushed her over the edge. just random thoughts.

ok, going to hide in a corner now

[Blonde]

I just got off the phone with 2 different individuals from The Body Farm...one of them being the actual person who did the air sample with the Chloroform from the trunk of Casy's car....very interesting stuff here....I will not post names and #'s right now....But I will tell you...one of them did say to me...."I was not involved in the bone recovery"...

This makes me think that TM might have found something that day, and that was why they called off the search.

[goodnmad]

Rob said a couple of thread back something to the effect of -- 4 sets of human bones/partial sets were found during searches. i think more than one missing person has been found. Rob, please correct me if I'm wrong.

So either there is an Orlando serial killer unrelated to this case
or Caylee was kidnapped and discarded with others by a crazy nanny ring
or Casey is a serial killer or involved with one.
or this is a cover up to throw police off Casey's track, means she had an accomplice.

sorry for the confusion. i took it to mean the bones were found in different locations

[jjayinthemorning]

GRACE: Tonight with us, bounty hunter from California, Leonard Padilla. Your theory is there is an accomplice. What`s your theory and why?

PADILLA: Well, the situation is that she ran out of gas at the check cashing store on the 26th.

GRACE: Right.

PADILLA: And there was a tremendous amount of communication on her phone on the evening of the 26th and also on the 27th, when she called her boyfriend to come pick her up, that the car had run out of gas. And it goes on into the 28th, then it stops. So there had to be somebody giving her a hand at that time.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/19/ng.01.html

thanks for the snip.
On the 28th she moves in with Tony without Caylee.
So the body was in it's final resting place at that time. Casey stashed her car and had no transportation. It would be interesting to know her route when she took Amy's car. Criminals usually return to the crime scene. And I'm sure LE are looking into that too.

[goodnmad]

Those crazy nannies. 

sorry, delayed response this moring jjay

[littleone]

This woke me up last night........ Does anyone think LE has Caylee's body???

I do think this sometimes...but the only way at this time they would have a body is if it were in a closed container...and even then it would not be much...*if* LE has anything it would be small bones/fragments that would need extensive forensic testing for any info...JMOO...Des

Abbey and Des - I am with both of you.  I suspect that they found something the afternoon that Tim called off the search and left for Aruba.  There were a few posters here who mentioned that something had been found, cadaver dogs had been called in, and the area was taped off, but they were unable to comment.  If they do have something, I think that LE is being very, very careful to complete all levels of testing before they reveal any information.  This is a high profile case with International coverage and they can't make a mistake.  It also might be a way to put more pressure on the Anthonys while waiting for DNA results and forensic examinations to determine an exact cause of death.  I would like to see LE do a complete forensic examination of any remains that will give them a solid and irrefutable case.  If it would mean Murder #1 for Casey Anthony, then I am willing to wait it out.  Why else would the searches be called off?  Searchers would be upset to learn that they had continued to spend hours searching while LE was in possession of the body.  Just my opinion.

Another note. LP hasn't mentioned the 50,000 reward for a "body" since TES packed it up.

I was just thinking about the $50,000.00 last night. It does seem "funny" he hasn't mentioned it.   

[SS]

IF LE does has Caylee's remains, we have to think about the condition that the remains could possibly be in.  The remains would have been exposed to two months of the Florida heat, a hurricane, and possibly animals.  If the remains are in a conatiner, it might be easier.  LE will do every possible test on those remains to build their murder case against Casey.  These tests take time and depending on the condition of the remains, it could take even longer than usual.  The Body Farm going to Florida is huge, because they wouldn't go for animal bones that would have been eliminated by the coroner from the beginning.  The family members of the missing person in this case are also the suspect(s) in Caylee's disappearance.  If this was a family who weren't under suspicion, LE would probably would not have hesitated to make a statement right away.  But, with the Anthonys, they can't show their hand.  There are also several other children who are missing in the Orlando area and if remains were found, it could be one of these children.  LE absolutely must be very thorough with this case and any evidence that they find.

Why did Tim suddenly call the searchers back at 4:00 in the afternoon instead of at least waiting until the end of the search day?  If I recall, a relative of a searcher posted here during the afternoon that something had been found around noon time and they were waiting for the dogs.  I think LE has something.

[goodnmad]

This woke me up last night........ Does anyone think LE has Caylee's body???

I do think this sometimes...but the only way at this time they would have a body is if it were in a closed container...and even then it would not be much...*if* LE has anything it would be small bones/fragments that would need extensive forensic testing for any info...JMOO...Des

Abbey and Des - I am with both of you.  I suspect that they found something the afternoon that Tim called off the search and left for Aruba.  There were a few posters here who mentioned that something had been found, cadaver dogs had been called in, and the area was taped off, but they were unable to comment.  If they do have something, I think that LE is being very, very careful to complete all levels of testing before they reveal any information.  This is a high profile case with International coverage and they can't make a mistake.  It also might be a way to put more pressure on the Anthonys while waiting for DNA results and forensic examinations to determine an exact cause of death.  I would like to see LE do a complete forensic examination of any remains that will give them a solid and irrefutable case.  If it would mean Murder #1 for Casey Anthony, then I am willing to wait it out.  Why else would the searches be called off?  Searchers would be upset to learn that they had continued to spend hours searching while LE was in possession of the body.  Just my opinion.

Another note. LP hasn't mentioned the 50,000 reward for a "body" since TES packed it up.

I was just thinking about the $50,000.00 last night. It does seem "funny" he hasn't mentioned it.   

I thought he said that on NG after TES left. Or did he say it in some other venue earlier? Blonde do you remember?

[Tamikosmom]

I believe one of the reasons LE came to Calif to speak with Padilla was to obtain the PHONE RECORDS that Lee had given Padilla.

Klaas ... does LE not have the authority to obtain these records from the cell phone provider?

Also ... I have difficulty comprehending why Rob Dick and Leonard Padilla did not immediately share any pertinent information they had acquired when Casey was rearrested following her first release.

These two have been on NANCY GRACE almost every night revealing all.  The latest edition of the NATIONAL ENQUIRER  ....

Janet

[jjayinthemorning]

Rob said a couple of thread back something to the effect of -- 4 sets of human bones/partial sets were found during searches. i think more than one missing person has been found. Rob, please correct me if I'm wrong.

So either there is an Orlando serial killer unrelated to this case
or Caylee was kidnapped and discarded with others by a crazy nanny ring
or Casey is a serial killer or involved with one.
or this is a cover up to throw police off Casey's track, means she had an accomplice.

sorry for the confusion. i took it to mean the bones were found in different locations

Oh, I misunderstood. Then the body was dismembered. awwww. that's sad.
In that timeframe the body would have decomposed and become seperated by the elements.

[BeachGirl4]

could the marine in Cali be the daddy and that was what she was going to tell him? it was so important she wanted to tell him in person. or maybe she was going to lie to him about being Caylee's daddy and use him as her new meal ticket since Cindy wasn't having it anymore. maybe his response wasn't what she wanted and this on top of the fight with her parents pushed her over the edge. just random thoughts.

ok, going to hide in a corner now

That Marine looks nothing like Caylee.  IMO

[klaasend]

I believe one of the reasons LE came to Calif to speak with Padilla was to obtain the PHONE RECORDS that Lee had given Padilla.

Klaas ... does LE not have the authority to obtain these records from the cell phone provider?

Also ... I have difficulty comprehending why Rob Dick and Leonard Padilla did not immediately share any pertinent information they had acquired when Casey was rearrested following her first release.

These two have been on NANCY GRACE almost every night revealing all.  The latest edition of the NATIONAL ENQUIRER  ....

Janet

Janet - I agree with your confusion and your skeptacism with anything from the Padilla camp.  You would think LE could get those phone records themselves.  Maybe Padilla did give them to LE right away??

[jjayinthemorning]

could the marine in Cali be the daddy and that was what she was going to tell him? it was so important she wanted to tell him in person. or maybe she was going to lie to him about being Caylee's daddy and use him as her new meal ticket since Cindy wasn't having it anymore. maybe his response wasn't what she wanted and this on top of the fight with her parents pushed her over the edge. just random thoughts.

ok, going to hide in a corner now

I thought this too.
Casey was desperately calling him because she had some big news. I could picture a woman who lost her child wanting to finally have a reason to get back in touch with a hot guy who dissed her. Maybe for a new meal ticket or possibly trying to finally hurt him with news that would hurt him as much as he hurt her.