Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #28

[Tamikosmom]

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Nancy Grace 9/22  Recap

http://www.youtube.com/user/bigjuicykungfu

I was going to listen to NANCY GRACE again in about an hour.  There are some words of  of Richard Grund that I want to make sure I comprehended correctly.

However ... now that I will be able to listen your youtube of the interview in the morning ... I do believe that a game of scrabble with hubby is where it is at and ... then I will call it a night.

Thank you Carpe.

GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS

Janet
9:10 PM PT

[higherhopes]

O.K.    since I have been here for awhile and have followed this case as though my life depended on it, I just want someone to tell me one thing.....everybody that I talk to about this case have different opinions and I have talked to some that says they think Caylee is alive and that just burns me up.....Yes I would like to believe that Caylee is alive...but sadly I dont and so when I hear that from anyone my first Question is....then where is she>>>>.If she is alive and with someone else...what are they gonna do with her?  lock her up for the rest of her life....this is a big story and everybody knows about it and she wont stay a little girl forever and so Im just wondering what would they possibly keep her for.............it just doesnt make sense to me......so what i am asking is ....if Casey really gave this baby to someone and they took off with her, does anyone think that they could possibly get away with it as the years go by...

[Kristin]

O.K.    since I have been here for awhile and have followed this case as though my life depended on it, I just want someone to tell me one thing.....everybody that I talk to about this case have different opinions and I have talked to some that says they think Caylee is alive and that just burns me up.....Yes I would like to believe that Caylee is alive...but sadly I dont and so when I hear that from anyone my first Question is....then where is she>>>>.If she is alive and with someone else...what are they gonna do with her?  lock her up for the rest of her life....this is a big story and everybody knows about it and she wont stay a little girl forever and so Im just wondering what would they possibly keep her for.............it just doesnt make sense to me......so what i am asking is ....if Casey really gave this baby to someone and they took off with her, does anyone think that they could possibly get away with it as the years go by...

Have you seen how many missing children there are??

And how many missing kids are eventually found and returned home years later?

[higherhopes]

only remember the women was on a tv show out of Detroit

thanks Mary but someone posted the link to the video..........how are you tonight!

[Switchy]

O.K.    since I have been here for awhile and have followed this case as though my life depended on it, I just want someone to tell me one thing.....everybody that I talk to about this case have different opinions and I have talked to some that says they think Caylee is alive and that just burns me up.....Yes I would like to believe that Caylee is alive...but sadly I dont and so when I hear that from anyone my first Question is....then where is she>>>>.If she is alive and with someone else...what are they gonna do with her?  lock her up for the rest of her life....this is a big story and everybody knows about it and she wont stay a little girl forever and so Im just wondering what would they possibly keep her for.............it just doesnt make sense to me......so what i am asking is ....if Casey really gave this baby to someone and they took off with her, does anyone think that they could possibly get away with it as the years go by...

If we are assuming Casey gave or sold the baby to someone else, yes they could get away with it for years.  I do think at this point, with the media saturation, they'd have to have taken her to another country though.  If that's the case, no we'll never see Caylee again or know what happened to her.

Of course, then we'd just have another mystery on our hands - who was decomposing in the trunk and why?

[higherhopes]

O.K.    since I have been here for awhile and have followed this case as though my life depended on it, I just want someone to tell me one thing.....everybody that I talk to about this case have different opinions and I have talked to some that says they think Caylee is alive and that just burns me up.....Yes I would like to believe that Caylee is alive...but sadly I dont and so when I hear that from anyone my first Question is....then where is she>>>>.If she is alive and with someone else...what are they gonna do with her?  lock her up for the rest of her life....this is a big story and everybody knows about it and she wont stay a little girl forever and so Im just wondering what would they possibly keep her for.............it just doesnt make sense to me......so what i am asking is ....if Casey really gave this baby to someone and they took off with her, does anyone think that they could possibly get away with it as the years go by...

If we are assuming Casey gave or sold the baby to someone else, yes they could get away with it for years.  I do think at this point, with the media saturation, they'd have to have taken her to another country though.  If that's the case, no we'll never see Caylee again or know what happened to her.

Of course, then we'd just have another mystery on our hands - who was decomposing in the trunk and why?

yes  my thoughts excactly....I KNOW all about how many children come up missing everday but the circumstances with this case are different than most....most missing children have parents that are cleared right away and are in no way considered at fault and thet is the reason hiding little Caylee is gonna be more difficult than a normal child obduction case.....as for the body in the truck....I believe that it was poor little Caylee, but when I ask the people that believe she is still alive I rarely get a straight answer out of them......anyway I hope we do find out something...I pray it doesnt  become another cold case ...PLEASE !!!!

[oldfart]

Monkeys
Sorry just another touch & go drop off

If, just IF there are some new ones here that are close to the Anthony family 
I do hope they read this and pass it along to them.  A video called VIVA LA VIDA (THE LIFE LIVES) - by COLDPLAY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTjFP_iORYg  They need to click on the (more info) for the lyrics

Casey will do jail time for the theft / fraud charges.. How much time is Not given at this time.   Whether anyone one is charged with anything related to Caylee is also not know at this time.  But I'm only referring to our judicial court system.  If they happen to believe in the ultimate court system  they may want to listen ...
JMO of course
SYB

[marymary]

Hi late night monkeys,

I just had a weird thought I wanted to share.    What if Casey in her horrible dilema at one point considered suicide and decided using chloroform could be a quick painless way out.  Than she later changed her mind and threw the bottle in the trunk of her car and the heat made it explode and release the contents.   Just another possible explanation of the chloroform. 

[Switchy]

O.K.    since I have been here for awhile and have followed this case as though my life depended on it, I just want someone to tell me one thing.....everybody that I talk to about this case have different opinions and I have talked to some that says they think Caylee is alive and that just burns me up.....Yes I would like to believe that Caylee is alive...but sadly I dont and so when I hear that from anyone my first Question is....then where is she>>>>.If she is alive and with someone else...what are they gonna do with her?  lock her up for the rest of her life....this is a big story and everybody knows about it and she wont stay a little girl forever and so Im just wondering what would they possibly keep her for.............it just doesnt make sense to me......so what i am asking is ....if Casey really gave this baby to someone and they took off with her, does anyone think that they could possibly get away with it as the years go by...

If we are assuming Casey gave or sold the baby to someone else, yes they could get away with it for years.  I do think at this point, with the media saturation, they'd have to have taken her to another country though.  If that's the case, no we'll never see Caylee again or know what happened to her.

Of course, then we'd just have another mystery on our hands - who was decomposing in the trunk and why?

yes  my thoughts excactly....I KNOW all about how many children come up missing everday but the circumstances with this case are different than most....most missing children have parents that are cleared right away and are in no way considered at fault and thet is the reason hiding little Caylee is gonna be more difficult than a normal child obduction case.....as for the body in the truck....I believe that it was poor little Caylee, but when I ask the people that believe she is still alive I rarely get a straight answer out of them......anyway I hope we do find out something...I pray it doesnt  become another cold case ...PLEASE !!!!

I don't get a straight answer out of them either - except that the forensics are wrong or the forensics are just rumor, etc.  Where they think this child could be for the last 3 months, with no human laying eyes on her, is beyond me.  I think some people just like to hope for the best.

I do think that unless Casey or someone else breaks, Caylee's body will never be found.  I also think Casey will never tell us what she did or what happened.  She may be convicted of murder (I think she will be), but even then we won't know what happened.

Mark Klass was right - Casey is one odious creature.

[marymary]

Hi late night monkeys,

I just had a weird thought I wanted to share.    What if Casey in her horrible dilema at one point considered suicide and decided using chloroform could be a quick painless way out.  Than she later changed her mind and threw the bottle in the trunk of her car and the heat made it explode and release the contents.   Just another possible explanation of the chloroform. 

Is that a no????

[Switchy]

Hi late night monkeys,

I just had a weird thought I wanted to share.    What if Casey in her horrible dilema at one point considered suicide and decided using chloroform could be a quick painless way out.  Than she later changed her mind and threw the bottle in the trunk of her car and the heat made it explode and release the contents.   Just another possible explanation of the chloroform. 

I looked up the properties of chloroform the other day - it's not flammable.

[Switchy]

Hi late night monkeys,

I just had a weird thought I wanted to share.    What if Casey in her horrible dilema at one point considered suicide and decided using chloroform could be a quick painless way out.  Than she later changed her mind and threw the bottle in the trunk of her car and the heat made it explode and release the contents.   Just another possible explanation of the chloroform. 

Is that a no????

Lol.  I think everyone left.

[higherhopes]

Hi late night monkeys,

I just had a weird thought I wanted to share.    What if Casey in her horrible dilema at one point considered suicide and decided using chloroform could be a quick painless way out.  Than she later changed her mind and threw the bottle in the trunk of her car and the heat made it explode and release the contents.   Just another possible explanation of the chloroform. 


good thought MM.....and maybe she did put Caylee in the trunk to sleep without thinking about the chloroform being back ther and when she came back to check found her dead from it.....gosh........so many possibilties.makes my head spin!!!!!!

[marymary]

Hi late night monkeys,

I just had a weird thought I wanted to share.    What if Casey in her horrible dilema at one point considered suicide and decided using chloroform could be a quick painless way out.  Than she later changed her mind and threw the bottle in the trunk of her car and the heat made it explode and release the contents.   Just another possible explanation of the chloroform. 

I looked up the properties of chloroform the other day - it's not flammable.

Just found this online

Fire Hazard
Container may explode in the heat of fire. When heated it liberates phosgene, hydrogen chloride, chlorine and toxic and corrosive oxides of carbon and chlorine. Chloroform explodes when in contact with aluminum powder or magnesium powder or with alkali metals (e.g., lithium, sodium, and potassium) and dinitrogen tetroxide. It reacts vigorously with acetone in the presence of potassium hydroxide or calcium hydroxide. It is oxidized by strong oxidizers such as chromic acid forming phosgene and chlorine. It reacts vigorously with triisopropylphosphine. It develops acidity from prolonged exposure to air and light. (EPA, 1998)

[Tamikosmom]

Is Michael Walsh a partner in Jose Baez's law firm?   In the following interview he fails to explain Casey's partying lifestyle in the month following her daughter's kidnapping.

According to Walsh in this July 30th interview ... Casey's story in regards to the nanny being gone when she arrived after work to pick up Caylee has changed.

Janet

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'Verdict with Dan Abrams' for Tuesday, July 29
updated 8:16 a.m. PT, Wed., July. 30, 2008

CLINT VAN ZANDT, FORMER FBI PROFILER:  You know, this is like some bad B movie or something, Dan, that the mother allegedly says, “I can‘t go to the cops because I‘ve seen television and I know if you go to the police or the FBI, your family‘s in danger.”  Hey, reality is she‘s been sitting there 31 days before this information came out. 

Supposedly, there are some reports that she took or stole or borrowed a credit card from her mother and ran up $40,000, $45,000 worth of bills on that credit card.  There were friends who were saying she‘s at a bar, she‘s at a disco.  Her boyfriend says, “She never told me about a missing child.”  When she‘s surrounded by friends and surrounded by her mother‘s plastic and credit cards, you would think somebody might have come out, like, “Oh, by the way, I ought to be out looking for my daughter, too.” 

And in a worst case scenario, if she stole the credit card to take cash advances to pay the kidnappers, there ought to be some financial trail.  Dan, this is one more time I‘ll follow the money. 

ABRAMS:  Mr. Walsh, I‘ll let you respond and then I want to ask you a follow-up question.

MICHAEL WALSH, CASEY ANTHONY‘S ATTORNEY:  Because the main purpose of this is to make sure that little Caylee is alive.  As you can tell from the phone calls, Caylee‘s been kidnapped.  Without going into what the kidnappers told Casey, obviously, you can imagine Casey‘s main concern is the welfare of her child, not whether or not she gets bad publicity.  I don‘t think she could get any more bad publicity.  But the focus of the motion was to protect little Caylee‘s life.  We believe she‘s still alive. 

ABRAMS:  Well, but you say it‘s to protect Caylee and what is it about the release that you‘re concerned about?  I mean, I would think that the problem for you, for your client, is that it seems from these calls that a lot of the family members believe or at least believed that Casey had done something wrong. 

WALSH:  Sure.  At first glance, that‘s exactly what it looks like.  And it‘s odd that somebody would report their child missing after 31 days.  But as the facts in this case come out, there will be - I don‘t want to say a good reason but certainly a very compelling reason why Casey did that. 

ABRAMS:  You guys keep saying that and I hear it, and I‘m just trying to figure out what possible good reason, even theoretically, there could be to not report your child missing for 31 days.  Now, again, the operative word is “good reason.”  Can you give us any sort of insight into - even if you don‘t want to get specific - what type of good reason there could be to not report your child missing for 31 days? 

WALSH:  Sure.  If the people who had her told her, “Look, if you go to the police, we‘ll kill her.”  And if you believe that and you believe that very bad, very dangerous people have your child and they‘re going to do bad things to that child if you go to the police, it tends to have a very chilling effect.  And I think the welfare of the child is a very good reason to not come forward

ABRAMS:  OK.  Well, I won‘t say the name.  I‘ll play the 911 tape then from Casey when she was talking about this. 

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

CASEY ANTHONY:  My daughter‘s been missing for the last 31 days. 

911 DISPATCHER:  And you know who has her? 

CASEY ANTHONY:  I know who has her.  I‘ve tried to contact her.  I actually received a phone call today.  Now, the number is no longer in service.  I did get to speak to my daughter for about a minute. 

911 DISPATCHER:  Who has her?  Do you have is a name? 

CASEY ANTHONY:  Her name is Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. 

911 DISPATCHER:  Who is that - baby-sitter? 

CASEY ANTHONY:  She‘s been my nanny for about a year and a half, almost two years. 

911 DISPATCHER:  Why are you calling now?  Why didn‘t you call 31 days ago? 

CASEY ANTHONY:  I‘ve been looking for her and have gone through other resources to try to find her, which is stupid. 

(END AUDIO CLIP)

ABRAMS:  That‘s a name that‘s been out for weeks now.  I mean, this is not I‘m not disclosing this on this program ... 

WALSH:  No. 

ABRAMS:  As you know, Mr. Walsh.  Is that the person who you believed kidnapped Caylee? 

WALSH:  In part, but that‘s not the main person - no.

[carpe noctem]

'Common Sense Meter Pegged,' Dr. Phil Says During Anthony Show
Missing Girl Last Seen In Mid-June

POSTED: 9:29 pm EDT September 22, 2008
UPDATED: 9:57 pm EDT September 22, 2008



"You could be talking about somebody who is psychotic here," McGraw said.


WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH DOCTOR SNEEZE & BLOW... THAT'LL BE 750 DOLLARS, DRIVE AROUND PLEASE!!!



Protester Actions 'Just Wrong'


The show included Local 6 video of protesters screaming and threatening Caylee Anthony's grandparents, George and Cindy, at their Orange County home.

"That is just so wrong," McGraw said. "I'm sorry but that is so wrong. There is absolutely not one shred of evidence that these grandparents have done one single thing wrong.


I GUESS HE MISSED PAT YOUNG GETTING MASHED RIGHT IN HER BAZOONIES. I GUESS HE MISSED LEE THROWING OUT THE PEACEFUL PROTESTOR'S DOG'S WATER DISH AND TRASHING HER SIGN. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WERE PEACEFUL, LAW ABIDING AND ACTUALLY HAD A MESSAGE.


McGraw said he did not know what people want the Anthonys to do.

HOW ABOUT THIS FOR STARTERS QUICK DRAW MCGRAW... TELL THE TRUTH. DID YOU SIT DOWN AND GO OVER THE 400 + DOCUMENTS AND MEDIA INTERVIEWS WHERE THEY HAVE LIED OVER AND OVER AND OVER TO PROTECT THEIR DAUGHTER?


Nejame said George and Cindy have helped in the search in every way possible.

"Who on the earth wants that child back more than them," Nejame said. "If anything could be done by them within the realm of human capacity, I promise you, they've attempted to do it.


THAT IS A LOAD OF BULL STANK. THEY HAVE NOT DONE MUCH. THERE ARE CAMERAS, MEDIA OUTLETS, BLOGGERS AND PROTESTORS WORKING THIS THING AROUND THE CLOCK. THEY HAVEN'T DONE > BO DIDDLY.


Phil needs to get himself a dome warmer ski-cap  up there on that mini-helicopter
pad thing he has got going on the top of his head. I am terribly afraid that all of
his intelligence is condensating right out of the top part where there's no hair on it.


DR. PHIL LOAD ALERT!       DR. PHIL LOAD ALERT!              DR. PHIL LOAD ALERT!

[WillenFan21]

After listening to the Lenaord Padilla interview on SM radio this is what I am thinking:

LP said that Cindy grabbed Casey by the throat when they got into the argument, so that is making me wonder if Casey, was terrified of her mother. I think this is the reason why she is not coming clean with her mom or even dad for that matter. I also think she killed Caylee simply because she didn't want Cindy to have her and she figured "If I can't have her then no one will." type of thing.

Also I hope I don't get tomatos thrown here but I am starting to feel really bad for Cindy and George. It seems to me that they raised Caylee as their own child. I mean Caylee even called Cindy "Momma" and Cindy refered to HERSELF as "Momma". I do think that both her and George loved that child and it seems to me that Caylee was more attatched to Cindy than she was her own mother.  Also I really think the protestors need to back off. I agreed with Dr Phil today that its just horrible. I mean like they said these people could be out searching for Caylee instead of protesting like that.

I also want to add on that I think Tim Miller left the Caylee search because of the new evidence in the Natalie Holloway case. JMO

[marymary]

Hi late night monkeys,

I just had a weird thought I wanted to share.    What if Casey in her horrible dilema at one point considered suicide and decided using chloroform could be a quick painless way out.  Than she later changed her mind and threw the bottle in the trunk of her car and the heat made it explode and release the contents.   Just another possible explanation of the chloroform. 


good thought MM.....and maybe she did put Caylee in the trunk to sleep without thinking about the chloroform being back ther and when she came back to check found her dead from it.....gosh........so many possibilties.makes my head spin!!!!!!

thanks for your response HH, and your last sentence is soooooooooo true   

[higherhopes]

After listening to the Lenaord Padilla interview on SM radio this is what I am thinking:

LP said that Cindy grabbed Casey by the throat when they got into the argument, so that is making me wonder if Casey, was terrified of her mother. I think this is the reason why she is not coming clean with her mom or even dad for that matter. I also think she killed Caylee simply because she didn't want Cindy to have her and she figured "If I can't have her then no one will." type of thing.

Also I hope I don't get tomatos thrown here but I am starting to feel really bad for Cindy and George. It seems to me that they raised Caylee as their own child. I mean Caylee even called Cindy "Momma" and Cindy refered to HERSELF as "Momma". I do think that both her and George loved that child and it seems to me that Caylee was more attatched to Cindy than she was her own mother.  Also I really think the protestors need to back off. I agreed with Dr Phil today that its just horrible. I mean like they said these people could be out searching for Caylee instead of protesting like that.

I also want to add on that I think Tim Miller left the Caylee search because of the new evidence in the Natalie Holloway case. JMO

I think you are correct about why Vasey killed her but it doesnt make sense about why she wont tell how  and help bring Caylee home...its not like after she tells what happened she is gonna get to go home again where Cindy can get ahold of her again.........

[higherhopes]

Phil needs to get himself a dome warmer ski-cap  up there on that mini-helicopter
pad thing he has got going on the top of his head. I am terribly afraid that all of
his intelligence is condensating right out of the top part where there's no hair on it.


Dr. Phil is too sexy for his hair.............thats why it isnt there..............