Natalee Case Discussion #771 10/4/08 - 10/26/08

[sharon]

Talking about addresses...Does anyone have a home address for Charles Croes? TIA

SHIRIBANA 3-I, PARADERA, ARUBA

abracadabra 

you're good 

[Lala'sMom]

Do we know that the land is in their name?  I thought it was just a
telephone listing. 

LOL  I was being sarcastic.

[SS]

Well, it's October 8th - where's all the action??? 


I have suspected LVR as being the 5th for a long time.  I also thought of something else.  If he was the "cool and crazy guy" from earlier in the week, maybe Natalee did spend some time with him.  Natalee was a bright young woman.  If she saw LVR's layout with barbed wire, dogs, and obviously a small fortune for a guy in his twenties, do you suppose that she figured him out and ditched him real fast? She might have also been warned by Haylee and her sister.  This might have been why he was angry when Urine showed up her at the video party.  She had dumped him, he was embarrassed, and he's obviously a crazy psycho.  LVR is someone who is accustomed to getting what he wants and Natalee had kicked him to the curb.  He killed dogs who didn't perform - is this what he did to Natalee?

[bastibro]

Well, it's October 8th - where's all the action??? 


I have suspected LVR as being the 5th for a long time.  I also thought of something else.  If he was the "cool and crazy guy" from earlier in the week, maybe Natalee did spend some time with him.  Natalee was a bright young woman.  If she saw LVR's layout with barbed wire, dogs, and obviously a small fortune for a guy in his twenties, do you suppose that she figured him out and ditched him real fast? She might have also been warned by Haylee and her sister.  This might have been why he was angry when Urine showed up her at the video party.  She had dumped him, he was embarrassed, and he's obviously a crazy psycho.  LVR is someone who is accustomed to getting what he wants and Natalee had kicked him to the curb.  He killed dogs who didn't perform - is this what he did to Natalee?

. . probably we`ll never know SS

I would just say . . KILL THE DIRTY LOWLIFE BASTERD!!!

[Nut44x4]

Probably this>>
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,434541,00.html

Something we already knew about.

Tired of hearing=== big news, wait till blah blah blah, so and so knows when such and such will happen, blah blah. Tired of it.

WHERE IS NATALEE!!!!!!!!????? 

[johan555]

[2NJSons_Mom]

8 ball in what pocket?  Time will tell.....hope I'm not singing in this war, because I don't want to lose....maybe silence is golden in this case? 

IMHO you hit the nail on the head here Mom

 

[MuffyBee]

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I have suspected LVR as being the 5th for a long time.  I also thought of something else.  If he was the "cool and crazy guy" from earlier in the week, maybe Natalee did spend some time with him.
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This reminds me of the rumors about Natalee drinking free "all week long".  Natalee wasn't on Aruba that long.  From the time of her arrival in Aruba until she was last seen was how long?  I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but it wasn't  very long.  And if I remember correctly, some monkeys worked out time lines and a lot of her time was accounted for, with other students and etc.  JMHO   

[johan555]

   Natalee Holloway disappearance filmed

                                                       
By CASPAR NABER
LOS ANGELES / ROTTERDAM - The Natalee Holloway Story. For example, the television movie called on the disappearance of the 18-year-old American in Aruba, in 2005.
 
Natalee Holloway
The production of the film began, so did the American Lifetime Movie Network known yesterday. The multimedia company, a leader in the field of women's television and specializes in films for and about women, says the print to broadcast next year.

In the production, outsourced to Sony Pictures Television, is cooperating closely with Natalee's mother Beth Twitty. The film is based on her book: Loving Natalee, a mother's testament of hope and faith.

Although the relationship between mother and daughter central state, the focus filmop Beth's attempts to fish out what happened to her daughter.

The American from Mountain Brook (Alabama) disappeared three years ago in Aruba, where they are with school friends after successful holiday quarter for the final.

Natalee was last seen when she on May 30, 2005 left a bar and stepped into a silver car. She was in the company of Dutchman Joran van der Sloot. Which initially said her only to have left on the beach. Early this year he said to an informant of Peter R. De Vries Natalee that he dumped into the sea. That "confession" was filmed with a hidden camera. In retrospect, the twenties to have lied.

Time Elevator Movie Network sent last year from a movie about Delimar Vera, a girl seven years after her abduction was found by her mother. That film was the second best viewed in the ten-year history of the company.

=================
Verdwijning Natalee Holloway verfilmd
Door CASPAR NABER
LOS ANGELES/ROTTERDAM - The Natalee Holloway Story. Zo gaat de televisiefilm heten over de verdwijning van de 18-jarige Amerikaanse op Aruba, in 2005.
 
Natalee Holloway
De voorproductie van de film is begonnen, zo maakte het Amerikaanse Lifetime Movie Network gisteren bekend. Het multimediabedrijf, marktleider op het gebied van vrouwentelevisie en gespecialiseerd in films voor en over vrouwen, zegt de prent volgend jaar te gaan uitzenden.

Bij het productieproces, uitbesteed aan Sony Pictures Television, wordt nauw samengewerkt met Natalee's moeder Beth Twitty. De film is gebaseerd op haar boek: Loving Natalee, a mother's testament of hope and faith.

Hoewel de relatie tussen moeder en dochter centraal staat, focust de filmop Beth's pogingen uit te vissen wat er gebeurde met haar dochter.

De Amerikaanse uit Mountain Brook (Alabama) verdween drie jaar geleden op Aruba, waar ze met schoolvriendinnen vakantie vierde na geslaagd te zijn voor het eindexamen.

Natalee werd voor het laatst gezien toen ze op 30 mei 2005 een bar verliet en in een zilverkleurige auto stapte. Ze was toen in het gezelschap van Nederlander Joran van der Sloot. Die verklaarde aanvankelijk haar alleen te hebben achtergelaten op het strand. Begin dit jaar verklaarde hij aan een informant van Peter R. De Vries dat hij Natalee in zee dumpte. Die 'bekentenis' werd gefilmd met een verborgen camera. Achteraf verklaarde de twintiger te hebben gelogen.

Liftetime Movie Network zond vorig jaar al een film uit over Delimar Vera, een meisje dat zeven jaar na haar ontvoering werd teruggevonden door haar moeder. Die film was de op een na best bekeken in de tienjarige geschiedenis van het bedrijf.

[bastibro]

   Natalee Holloway disappearance filmed

                                                       
By CASPAR NABER
LOS ANGELES / ROTTERDAM - The Natalee Holloway Story. For example, the television movie called on the disappearance of the 18-year-old American in Aruba, in 2005.
 
Natalee Holloway
The production of the film began, so did the American Lifetime Movie Network known yesterday. The multimedia company, a leader in the field of women's television and specializes in films for and about women, says the print to broadcast next year.

In the production, outsourced to Sony Pictures Television, is cooperating closely with Natalee's mother Beth Twitty. The film is based on her book: Loving Natalee, a mother's testament of hope and faith.

Although the relationship between mother and daughter central state, the focus filmop Beth's attempts to fish out what happened to her daughter.

The American from Mountain Brook (Alabama) disappeared three years ago in Aruba, where they are with school friends after successful holiday quarter for the final.

Natalee was last seen when she on May 30, 2005 left a bar and stepped into a silver car. She was in the company of Dutchman Joran van der Sloot. Which initially said her only to have left on the beach. Early this year he said to an informant of Peter R. De Vries Natalee that he dumped into the sea. That "confession" was filmed with a hidden camera. In retrospect, the twenties to have lied.

Time Elevator Movie Network sent last year from a movie about Delimar Vera, a girl seven years after her abduction was found by her mother. That film was the second best viewed in the ten-year history of the company.

=================
Verdwijning Natalee Holloway verfilmd
Door CASPAR NABER
LOS ANGELES/ROTTERDAM - The Natalee Holloway Story. Zo gaat de televisiefilm heten over de verdwijning van de 18-jarige Amerikaanse op Aruba, in 2005.
 
Natalee Holloway
De voorproductie van de film is begonnen, zo maakte het Amerikaanse Lifetime Movie Network gisteren bekend. Het multimediabedrijf, marktleider op het gebied van vrouwentelevisie en gespecialiseerd in films voor en over vrouwen, zegt de prent volgend jaar te gaan uitzenden.

Bij het productieproces, uitbesteed aan Sony Pictures Television, wordt nauw samengewerkt met Natalee's moeder Beth Twitty. De film is gebaseerd op haar boek: Loving Natalee, a mother's testament of hope and faith.

Hoewel de relatie tussen moeder en dochter centraal staat, focust de filmop Beth's pogingen uit te vissen wat er gebeurde met haar dochter.

De Amerikaanse uit Mountain Brook (Alabama) verdween drie jaar geleden op Aruba, waar ze met schoolvriendinnen vakantie vierde na geslaagd te zijn voor het eindexamen.

Natalee werd voor het laatst gezien toen ze op 30 mei 2005 een bar verliet en in een zilverkleurige auto stapte. Ze was toen in het gezelschap van Nederlander Joran van der Sloot. Die verklaarde aanvankelijk haar alleen te hebben achtergelaten op het strand. Begin dit jaar verklaarde hij aan een informant van Peter R. De Vries dat hij Natalee in zee dumpte. Die 'bekentenis' werd gefilmd met een verborgen camera. Achteraf verklaarde de twintiger te hebben gelogen.

Liftetime Movie Network zond vorig jaar al een film uit over Delimar Vera, een meisje dat zeven jaar na haar ontvoering werd teruggevonden door haar moeder. Die film was de op een na best bekeken in de tienjarige geschiedenis van het bedrijf.

I was just about to post the same Johan

http://newsblaze.com/story/2008100707330300009.pnw/topstory.html

[johan555]

oh sorry bastibro   

[SS]

Klaas - thanks so much for the checkme thread.  It's great.

I've been going through the checkme posts.  He certainly does seem to be a Sloot fan with the Colombian kidnapping theory.  I did pull out some information...

allyinmiami is a corporate lawyer who's birthday is 7/25.

Checkme is certainly focused on LVR and the blue van with the speakers.  He doesn't think Simian tells the truth.

I found these things interesting ...

Jun 24, 9:22 PM —       
284. AllyinMiami   
Okay–thanks, Lucy subdude sounded a “little rough around the edges”…at our happy hour today, Lucy,—people were saying that I am looking too much into it. they believe that Joran killed her, father helped dispose of her, and relied on his friends/political collegues to assist him in making her body unidentifiable and untraceable..and the two brothers to provide Joran an alibi…none are talking b/c there is no body–My friends feel like they don’t need to talk (they are all lawyers, BTW).they think I am crazy…. I dont want to go out tonight…I want to watch Greta..Checkme, u need a sense of humor

ShocktheMonkey Says:
June 25th, 2005 at 9:40 pm
Yes, something bad did happened. But it was an accident, it wasn’t meant to happen … as it did not happen on the beach as assumed, rather, it was in a house.
The Hindus are not completely clean, but the Babylonians need them.

[Lala'sMom]

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of
Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 17 JULY 2008
under serial number 37679.0 is the company with the
trade name:

CLUB ARIAS

Business address     SAVANETA 123-K, SAVANETA
Legal form     SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company     CLUB ARIAS
Date of commencement     17 JULY 2008
     
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 4 SEPTEMBER 2008

OWNERS/PARTNERS
VAN DER LINDE, TRACEY NATALY JOANCA;
Residing in     BALASHI 84, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA
Born in     ARUBA on 7 SEPTEMBER 1984
Nationality     DUTCH
Position     OWNER
Effective     17 JULY 2008
Authority     FULL

OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
HET VERHUREN VAN LUXUEUZE APPARTEMENTEN.

[texasmom]

Do we know that the land is in their name?  I thought it was just a
telephone listing. 

Hi Magnolia!
I found the telephone listing based on the information I was given.  I tried to search the chamber registry earlier today for information but the site was not accessible.  When I was able to search this evening this is what I found for Club Arias.  Odd...

[Magnolia]

Well, it's October 8th - where's all the action??? 


I have suspected LVR as being the 5th for a long time.  I also thought of something else.  If he was the "cool and crazy guy" from earlier in the week, maybe Natalee did spend some time with him.  Natalee was a bright young woman.  If she saw LVR's layout with barbed wire, dogs, and obviously a small fortune for a guy in his twenties, do you suppose that she figured him out and ditched him real fast? She might have also been warned by Haylee and her sister.  This might have been why he was angry when Urine showed up her at the video party.  She had dumped him, he was embarrassed, and he's obviously a crazy psycho.  LVR is someone who is accustomed to getting what he wants and Natalee had kicked him to the curb.  He killed dogs who didn't perform - is this what he did to Natalee?

I think that we were set up to think Natalee had met Lorenzo.
Simian drew attention to Lorenzo to take attention off of Steve Croes.
Checkme joined the Simian bandwagon to create doubt about Joran.
I sincerely doubt that Natalee ever met Lorenzo.

[texasmom]

 

Johan and Bastibro aren't the only monkeys thinking of posting the same things at the same time.

 

[texasmom]

Tracey any connection to Clive?  Anyone know?

[Magnolia]

Do we know that the land is in their name?  I thought it was just a
telephone listing. 

Hi Magnolia!
I found the telephone listing based on the information I was given.  I tried to search the chamber registry earlier today for information but the site was not accessible.  When I was able to search this evening this is what I found for Club Arias.  Odd...

So now Lorenzo's mother's house is going to be apartments or is owned
by a dummy corporation.  No mention of the couple from Boca that bought
it from Astrid.  I agree it is strange.

[vms]

More pics here:
http://www.myspace.com/clubarias

[mariloo]

Hello monkeys, reading all your posts and seeing Natalee again, I remember seeing on Fox news a close up of her leaving a club, maybe c&cs, and yelling ,"Aruba, YooHoo!".  That picture if forever in my mind.  I believe that is the last time her friends saw her.  She did not look drunk or drugged.  She looked like she was having a good time, laughing and smiling.  Does anyone else remember this???