Marlies van der Kouwe , 24, kidnapped in Bonaire 9/21/08 -(BODY FOUND)

[Rob]

Johan, one more thing -

the phrase - Boneiru Libra Di Riba 500 Kadaver of Outo - could mean that these are just scrap cars.

Not the bodies of humans, but the bodies of old cars. Actually, that's what I think it means after thinking about it.

kadavernan = many or multiple bodies.

[johan555]

Johan, one more thing -

the phrase - Boneiru Libra Di Riba 500 Kadaver of Outo - could mean that these are just scrap cars.

Not the bodies of humans, but the bodies of old cars. Actually, that's what I think it means after thinking about it.

Rob there is a dark of black car missing there, they search for that car since 8 days !!

[Anna]

Does anyone know if regarding the person-of-interest named above, if a K9 worked this person's scent at the place where Ms van der Kouwe was last seen?  If so, IF his scent was there and followed, along with also working Marlies scent, the two trails would be the same (if he indeed had something to do with Ms. van der Kouwe's disappearance).  If it was NOT him, then there would be a negative indication given in that area.  The same thing could be done for the person-of-interest's vehicle ... it could be checked for Ms. van der Kouwe's scent (if she was put in his vehicle, or taken in his home, or the scooter, etc.)

Good morning, monkeys, coming out of lurk mode to say I concur with this and can't imagine what is going on with these dogs as they are working in a very small area where Marlies was seen being taken.

Then I remembered the big show search at the Sloot compound, limited to Joran's shed, and how it turned out Aruba did not have any real Search and Rescue dogs and were just using a drug sniffer for show.  Same with those ridiculous biohazard suits worn at the time by a few after a family of five had been living in the house for 16 days prior to search.

With the Dutch involved, surely these are truly Search and Rescue dogs trained to follow a human scent?  If so, there should be little to no problem with their doing so.  Same for finding the missing car that may or may not still be black.

There is something very wrong with the use of the dogs in this search.  They should be far more helpful and successful than this.  I wonder if they belong to the local LE or came with the Dutch because if local, they may be trained only to sniff for drugs as the ones used to "search" for Natalee originally were.

Have to wonder if TPTB have once again decided it's better to have a missing person that an arrest and prosecution.  Wrong!  And I am sad and angry that time was wasted when she was first taken and still known to be alive.  Guess that's what happens when politicians hire their buddies instead of competent LE?  Or is the idea, yet again, to NOT find her? 

Just my opinion, of course.

[always 1]

Johan, I'm sick over this. I wish I was totally wrong. It's part of the reason I have not been posting all week. I'm just sick that a little girl is dead, again, and is not going to be found.

I did see that you posted it, and it says that a car contained a cadaver. The company is based on Curacao but the auto scrap yard is on Bonaire.

"transport a cadaver in an auto"

I have asked and asked about you. Im glad you are ok, but I am sorry that this girl is gone.

[caesu]

De laatste ontwikkelingen rondom de verdwijning van de 24-jarige Marlies van der Kouwe op Bonaire. Verslaggever Margje Fikse spreekt met ooggetuigen en betrokkenen op het eiland, volgt de speurtocht naar Marlies van der Kouwe op de voet, en maakt een uitgebreid verslag.

Misdaadverslaggever Peter R. de Vries reageert in de studio onder andere op het politieoptreden op Bonaire en trekt vergelijking met verdwijning van Natalee Holloway op Aruba.

Maker: Margje Fikse

http://www.netwerk.tv/uitzending/2008-10-02/marlies-nog-altijd-spoorloos

Hij geeft zijn visie op het politie-onderzoek naar Marlies van der Kouwe. De Nederlandse verdween onlangs op het eiland Bonaire toen ze 's nachts op straat fietste.

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/

comments by Peter R. de Vries about the actions of the Bonaire police corps and making comparisons with the Holloway case.

[johan555]

Judge hits Reporter

[bastibro]

link to the Netwerk broadcast of tonight

http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=7989056

[Blue Moon]

Just got home.  Did they find Marlies?  Thanks.

[bastibro]

Just got home.  Did they find Marlies?  Thanks.

unfortunately
Not yet!

[Blue Moon]

Just got home.  Did they find Marlies?  Thanks.

unfortunately
Not yet!

I was just reading back on this.  I am so sad for the family.  Unfortunately it looks all too familiar to Natalee. My heart goes out to Marlies family and as I have for 3 1/2 long years I still say prayers for Beth and Dave.

[bastibro]

The Marlies case has so much similarities to the Natalee case . .
The whole atmosphere and the same incompetent police corps.
They certainly don't work with their heart there, bu with something else i guess

[johan555]

unbelievable that they start the search  after 1  1 / 2 day

[bastibro]

Just got home.  Did they find Marlies?  Thanks.

unfortunately
Not yet!

I was just reading back on this.  I am so sad for the family.  Unfortunately it looks all too familiar to Natalee. My heart goes out to Marlies family and as I have for 3 1/2 long years I still say prayers for Beth and Dave.

AMEN Blue moon

[johan555]

The Marlies case has so much similarities to the Natalee case . .
The whole atmosphere and the same incompetent police corps.
They certainly don't work with their heart there, bu with something else i guess

bastibro click on this link

http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=7981026

Hero Brinkman was guest on a Dutch talkshow.
he worries this case might go the same way as Natalee's because of the corruption and incompetence on the islands.

[bastibro]

unbelievable that they start the search  after 1  1 / 2 day

Unbelievable, they seem to use their brains the wrong way or they have lost it at all due to to much cocktails

[MuffyBee]

unbelievable that they start the search  after 1  1 / 2 day

Unbelievable, they seem to use their brains the wrong way or they have lost it at all due to to much cocktails

 

[Rob]

I'm going to call Bonaire again in the morning. Don't expect too much. I'll call only twice a week at the most now... doesn't make much sense to call too often to hear the same things over and over.

++++

On another note... when the KLPD forensic team had the bio-suits on (picture posted by Johan on the last page), you would have to think there was a reason and they have the poles for the tents and the other gear there.

The sniffer dogs led them somewhere I am told, but they keep saying they found nothing. It seems like a lot of work to put the bio-suits on, get all the other equipment (tents and forensics) all together and poof - nothing.

The only difference that I see here is there are no Aru-Bay tapes and no stooges painting over a red substance.

It makes no sense to do all that unless you have an indication there is a crime scene or a dead body. No one suits up until the body has been found. No one takes those precautions until there is a reason. This case may go into the realm of the conspiracy theorists due to the photos taken and the secrecy of the BLE and KLPD.

** I am told there are actual cadaver dogs on the island - these are not drug dogs.

[AES]

Hi Everyone, whew this is ongoing and is scary, for Marlies' sake. Rob, I am glad you are back. Johan, what is the police website for Bonaire by the way? I would love to talk with the family, but am sure anything I tried to email would only be not given to them at the hotel. Still would love to offer services to help find Marlies.

[Rob]

Hi Everyone, whew this is ongoing and is scary, for Marlies' sake. Rob, I am glad you are back. Johan, what is the police website for Bonaire by the way? I would love to talk with the family, but am sure anything I tried to email would only be not given to them at the hotel. Still would love to offer services to help find Marlies.

nice to make your acquaintance AES.

Have you had any luck reaching Marlies' parents? I have had no luck. I did leave a message at the front desk of the Plaza Hotel, but I don't think it was relayed. I can try again.

I think the only way anyone is going to reach them, without interference by the incompetent boobs in the Bonaire polis department, is to actually travel to Bonaire. I have never had any trouble reaching anyone before this. The polis have them completely insulated and they are not allowing them any contact.

I have not seen any statements from either parent or the other children. And, that my friend, is very unusual. Everyone wants to make a statement and get the word out about a missing child. The Van Der Kouwe's will regret ever listening to this polis force.

Most of the time a family follows the advice of the polis. But, this is not a good idea when dealing with people with an agenda and a high level of incompetency.

Tomorrow, when I call Bonaire, I will ask the KLPD what missing person cases they have solved on any of these island and what the outcome(s) were. I know of no cases they have solved. I know of 10 missing Americans, one Aruban woman, one Aruban man, and now Marlies. Plus, there is a Dutch woman from 2002 or 2003 that we have also heard about but do not know her name.

And, you're right, this is a very scary situation.

[AES]

I shudder, Rob, at reading about the others who have gone missing on Bonaire, along with Marlies. And it is very similar to Natalee's disappearance, so I am very concerned for Marlies.

I have not had luck contacting her parents, a person went there in our behalf but found that the employees all have been sworn to secrecy, so could not easily deliver our message to her parents and did not try when it was realized they are all sworn to secrecy. I have not tried to call them, they must speak Dutch, I would assume, I do not speak Dutch so that is a dilemma. I know most families do tend to follow what the police tell them, it is very hard for families,and also they have to put their faith in the police when a child is missing, it is very hard for families to tell the police, we are glad you are doing what you are doing but we also want outside help to come help search. Still, as time goes on, and a child is still missing, a family sometimes decides they need more help and is not afraid to tell the police to get more help. 

By the sounds of some of what you have run into, there is worry about Americans coming to help, I can totally understand that, they would fear media coming in, etc. and I am sure it is why the insulation is happening so much. But we would go help quietly. Our only goal would be to help find Marlies.