Lively Case Discussion # 525 9/19 - 9/23/2006

[blah]

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I hope she takes Bo Dietl or someone like him with her....

Mrs. Red

Personal security would be one issue... but on air media attacks would be something a little different...

We do not know why Holland is sending people to Aruba..  I hope Beth does and has it in writting.

We thought it was because Natalee... but now ??  Is it a training misson for ALE  on how not  (or at least appear)  to be STUPID.

Boy, i'm just a bundle of pessimism tonight but , I have no faith at all in this "Dutch Investigation"  One of the big reasons is - it seems to be starting out the exact same way that the "aruban investigation" started out.  Why are they being so hush hush about everything?   They can see that there are alot of questions out there flying around and they are doing nothing to address them.  As soon as an agreement was made, there should have been a press conference or at least a friggen interview stating who is in charge, what the game plan, what is the timeline, and maybe take a couple of questions.  What ever happened to this "excellent attorney" or whatever they sent months ago to "investigate the investigation"  Hopefully Beth will get answers to these questions when she goes there.  If not, we know its just more of the same old same old.

[sandy leiva]

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I hope she takes Bo Dietl or someone like him with her....

Mrs. Red

Personal security would be one issue... but on air media attacks would be something a little different...

We do not know why Holland is sending people to Aruba..  I hope Beth does and has it in writting.

We thought it was because Natalee... but now ??  Is it a training misson for ALE  on how not  (or at least appear)  to be STUPID.

Boy, i'm just a bundle of pessimism tonight but , I have no faith at all in this "Dutch Investigation"  One of the big reasons is - it seems to be starting out the exact same way that the "aruban investigation" started out.  Why are they being so hush hush about everything?   They can see that there are alot of questions out there flying around and they are doing nothing to address them.  As soon as an agreement was made, there should have been a press conference or at least a friggen interview stating who is in charge, what the game plan, what is the timeline, and maybe take a couple of questions.  What ever happened to this "excellent attorney" or whatever they sent months ago to "investigate the investigation"  Hopefully Beth will get answers to these questions when she goes there.  If not, we know its just more of the same old same old.

i agree look what I found in todays diario

Commissioner Dumpig wants to put more polis on the streets on horseback, on the piers everywhere for safety per this article


 
Como parti di prevencion di criminalidad: COMISARIO DOMPIG TA BOGA PA
TIN MAS POLIS VISIBLE RIBA CAYA!

ORANJESTAD (AAN) – Comisario Gerold Dompig a expresa, den entrevista pa Matutino DIARIO, cu ta dificil pa bisa con KPA ta bay traha riba e problema di inseguridad cu tin nos comunidad hopi preocupa, pero e por bisa con KPA ta desea pa ataca e problema.

Dompig a menciona cu na final esaki ta keda na e Alto Comisario nobo cu ta bay bin, y di minister di husticia, cu mester dicidi si nan kier hacie. Comisario Dompig a subraya cu ta hopi importante pa realiza cu unico manera pa bringa criminalidad cu exito, ta pa haci hopi mas riba e tereno di prevencion.

El a bisa cu e palabra prevencion por zona “soft” pero e ta e mehor manera, y si tuma Oranjestad, por ehemplo, pa soluciona mayoria di e problemanan cu tin den ciudad mester pone hopi mas polis riba caya, y esaki ta nifica polis visible: riba pia, riba bicicleta, y mester ta manera na Merca cu mesora e ciudadano ta bira skina e ta wak un polis, pero na Aruba esey no tey.
 

Welll My comment   I thought Dumpig was off the force, retired, going to study medicine.   Yeah right same old B.S. from aruba.  They still think we will all go away and they can go to buissness as usual.  Im so disqusted I dont even want to translate this from papiamento, why waste my time with all these lies.

[Easywriter]

Personally, I am going to keep my fingers crossed that these Dutch cold case experts are on the up and up until actions douse my optimism.

What is left for us to cling on to in this tragedy?

[terryd270]

I think its big business this home land security has created..  I assume they are going over there to do the same thing and reward their friends for such a great job..  Maybe even a pay raise for some of the old staff and we know some promotions too..  I have no more faith and especially not in the Dutch..  Sorry flame me all you want but I don't see anything different..

http://washington.bizjournals.com/birmingham/stories/2006/06/05/daily12.html

[oldfart]

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I hope she takes Bo Dietl or someone like him with her....

Mrs. Red

Personal security would be one issue... but on air media attacks would be something a little different...

We do not know why Holland is sending people to Aruba..  I hope Beth does and has it in writing.

We thought it was because Natalee... but now ??  Is it a training mission for ALE  on how not  (or at least appear)  to be STUPID.

Boy, I'm just a bundle of pessimism tonight but , I have no faith at all in this "Dutch Investigation"  One of the big reasons is - it seems to be starting out the exact same way that the "Aruban investigation" started out.  They can see that there are a lot of questions ou Why are they being so hush hush about everything?  t there flying around and they are doing nothing to address them.  As soon as an agreement was made, there should have been a press conference or at least a friggen interview stating who is in charge, what the game plan, what is the timeline, and maybe take a couple of questions.  What ever happened to this "excellent attorney" or whatever they sent months ago to "investigate the investigation"  Hopefully Beth will get answers to these questions when she goes there.  If not, we know its just more of the same old same old.

Blah
"Why are they being so hush hush about everything? "  That is the way the do things...  remember we do not understand their system...

BUT  at the same time if the Dutch are going in to take over Natalee's investigation   VS   conducting "How NOT to APPEAR STUPID Classes-101

Why tell ever one until it had occurred and they came up with something??
Guilty parties have advance notice.etc.
No matter the out come ARUBA  will loose... but to differing degrees
JMO

[terryd270]

Umm some different job titles and maybe some more favors coming soon to Aruba..  Fool me once shame on you.......You know the rest..

[blah]

Personally, I am going to keep my fingers crossed that these Dutch cold case experts are on the up and up until actions douse my optimism.

What is left for us to cling on to in this tragedy?

I cling to the hope that stinkhole island will soon be swallowed up by a giant crack in the earths crust and every last one of them bastids goes down with it.  Maybe Curaceo (howtheheckeveryouspellit) and venezuala will go with it.

[mrs. red]

you are right about the on the air stuff... Linda, the FP poster said that the interviewer is a noted hater of the US and all of us "stupid Americans".... I just think Beth would be better off if she has someone with her....

[terryd270]

Everyone have a good night, I'm don't feel too good about this New Dutch Team..  Maybe 14 months ago I might of but not now...

[Dana]

you are right about the on the air stuff... Linda, the FP poster said that the interviewer is a noted hater of the US and all of us "stupid Americans".... I just think Beth would be better off if she has someone with her....

yes I was shocked to hear she was going on his program.

[mrs. red]

you are right about the on the air stuff... Linda, the FP poster said that the interviewer is a noted hater of the US and all of us "stupid Americans".... I just think Beth would be better off if she has someone with her....

yes I was shocked to hear she was going on his program.

Hey Dana.... I know that Beth is always a lady, but dang, I hope she loses it ....

[mrs. red]

you are right about the on the air stuff... Linda, the FP poster said that the interviewer is a noted hater of the US and all of us "stupid Americans".... I just think Beth would be better off if she has someone with her....

yes I was shocked to hear she was going on his program.

Hey Dana.... I know that Beth is always a lady, but dang, I hope she loses it ....

  I didn't mean to submit yet....

I hope she just loses it if he is mean to her ... and walks off the show....

[Easywriter]

If what everyone is saying is true, then there is no need to beleaguer the point further.  It’s over, because there is no chance in hell that the FBI will be invited to Aruba to conduct an open investigation.  It’s just over except for the speculation….

[Dana]

you are right about the on the air stuff... Linda, the FP poster said that the interviewer is a noted hater of the US and all of us "stupid Americans".... I just think Beth would be better off if she has someone with her....

yes I was shocked to hear she was going on his program.

Hey Dana.... I know that Beth is always a lady, but dang, I hope she loses it ....

  I didn't mean to submit yet....

I hope she just loses it if he is mean to her ... and walks off the show....

Yeah me too.
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[mrs. red]

Thanks Dana...

I am looking forward to both shows!!

[blah]

If what everyone is saying is true, then there is no need to beleaguer the point further.  It’s over, because there is no chance in hell that the FBI will be invited to Aruba to conduct an open investigation.  It’s just over except for the speculation….

isnt that all its been for ~16 months now?

[terryd270]

I think that money talks and this boycott is the only tool we have.. I wish that the reward was all in finding the person responsible for this crime..  $250,000 isn't all that much but a million might open someones mouth..  Its all about money on that island, I really think making the $250,000 to $1,000,000 might help.. Just my opinion..

[San]

you are right about the on the air stuff... Linda, the FP poster said that the interviewer is a noted hater of the US and all of us "stupid Americans".... I just think Beth would be better off if she has someone with her....

I think Beth would be better off not doing this interview.

[blah]

I think that money talks and this boycott is the only tool we have.. I wish that the reward was all in finding the person responsible for this crime..  $250,000 isn't all that much but a million might open someones mouth..  Its all about money on that island, I really think making the $250,000 to $1,000,000 might help.. Just my opinion..

Keep the boycott up and $250,000 will equal $1,000,000 pretty soon.

[mrs. red]

I think that money talks and this boycott is the only tool we have.. I wish that the reward was all in finding the person responsible for this crime..  $250,000 isn't all that much but a million might open someones mouth..  Its all about money on that island, I really think making the $250,000 to $1,000,000 might help.. Just my opinion..

I think they are smoking Hugo's crack to be honest... they don't want the drug infested little hell hole to change....

I will be putting boycott stickers over any license plate I see that says aruba.... or if I see that sticker again...